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Batik/Svg for web
Hi All,
I have to develop a web based app where I should be able to generate dynamic
graphical content based on the user's input. I am using JSP pages on the
front end. I found SVG to be the best thing available. After experimenting
in inline SVG I found out that it lacks many features like user interaction,
zoomability, javascript onclick features etc. And inline was easy to put in
a jsp page. But I want a more robust and full featured output. But I am not
able to implement the pure SVG. Could some body help me providing me all the
steps required to make things work? Also I have heard about BATIK which is
Apache's implementation of SVG, but I am not sure it can be used for web
based apps or not.
If somebody knows please enlighten me about the step by step procedure for
doing that.
thanks
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Re: Batik/Svg for web
Posted by adambomb <du...@yahoo.com>.
Sorry but it didnt help :(
Ruud Steltenpool ( http://svg.startpagina.nl ) wrote:
>
> Maybe http://svg.startpagina.nl is useful for some leads
>
> adambomb wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> I have to develop a web based app where I should be able to generate
>> dynamic
>> graphical content based on the user's input. I am using JSP pages on the
>> front end. I found SVG to be the best thing available. After
>> experimenting
>> in inline SVG I found out that it lacks many features like user
>> interaction,
>> zoomability, javascript onclick features etc. And inline was easy to put
>> in
>> a jsp page. But I want a more robust and full featured output. But I am
>> not
>> able to implement the pure SVG. Could some body help me providing me all
>> the
>> steps required to make things work? Also I have heard about BATIK which
>> is
>> Apache's implementation of SVG, but I am not sure it can be used for web
>> based apps or not.
>> If somebody knows please enlighten me about the step by step procedure
>> for
>> doing that.
>> thanks
>
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Re: Batik/Svg for web
Posted by Ruud Steltenpool <sv...@steltenpower.com>.
Maybe http://svg.startpagina.nl is useful for some leads
adambomb wrote:
> Hi All,
> I have to develop a web based app where I should be able to generate dynamic
> graphical content based on the user's input. I am using JSP pages on the
> front end. I found SVG to be the best thing available. After experimenting
> in inline SVG I found out that it lacks many features like user interaction,
> zoomability, javascript onclick features etc. And inline was easy to put in
> a jsp page. But I want a more robust and full featured output. But I am not
> able to implement the pure SVG. Could some body help me providing me all the
> steps required to make things work? Also I have heard about BATIK which is
> Apache's implementation of SVG, but I am not sure it can be used for web
> based apps or not.
> If somebody knows please enlighten me about the step by step procedure for
> doing that.
> thanks
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Re: Batik/Svg for web
Posted by Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>.
I don't know. Volunteers are always welcome. Coordination through the
batik-dev mailing list.
On 05.06.2008 10:49:47 Jake Beard wrote:
> Is anything happening with that plug-in? It seemed like such a good
> idea, but I haven't heard any recent discussion about it...
>
> Jake
>
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch> wrote:
> > Though I'm not aware of any implementations of the combination (Firefox?),
> > SVG + XForms could be an interesting combination for building
> > applications. If someone builds that Batik browser plug-in we recently
> > talked about on batik-dev and an XForms integration for Batik, this
> > would become interesting. Just dreaming... ;-)
> >
> > See also:
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-SVG12-20040226/#xforms
> > http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-svgxf1.html
> >
> > On 04.06.2008 19:24:14 adambomb wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >> I have to develop a web based app where I should be able to generate dynamic
> >> graphical content based on the user's input. I am using JSP pages on the
> >> front end. I found SVG to be the best thing available. After experimenting
> >> in inline SVG I found out that it lacks many features like user interaction,
> >> zoomability, javascript onclick features etc. And inline was easy to put in
> >> a jsp page. But I want a more robust and full featured output. But I am not
> >> able to implement the pure SVG. Could some body help me providing me all the
> >> steps required to make things work? Also I have heard about BATIK which is
> >> Apache's implementation of SVG, but I am not sure it can be used for web
> >> based apps or not.
> >> If somebody knows please enlighten me about the step by step procedure for
> >> doing that.
> >> thanks
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> >>
> >
> >
> > Jeremias Maerki
> >
Jeremias Maerki
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Re: Batik/Svg for web
Posted by Jake Beard <jb...@cs.mcgill.ca>.
Is anything happening with that plug-in? It seemed like such a good
idea, but I haven't heard any recent discussion about it...
Jake
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch> wrote:
> Though I'm not aware of any implementations of the combination (Firefox?),
> SVG + XForms could be an interesting combination for building
> applications. If someone builds that Batik browser plug-in we recently
> talked about on batik-dev and an XForms integration for Batik, this
> would become interesting. Just dreaming... ;-)
>
> See also:
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-SVG12-20040226/#xforms
> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-svgxf1.html
>
> On 04.06.2008 19:24:14 adambomb wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>> I have to develop a web based app where I should be able to generate dynamic
>> graphical content based on the user's input. I am using JSP pages on the
>> front end. I found SVG to be the best thing available. After experimenting
>> in inline SVG I found out that it lacks many features like user interaction,
>> zoomability, javascript onclick features etc. And inline was easy to put in
>> a jsp page. But I want a more robust and full featured output. But I am not
>> able to implement the pure SVG. Could some body help me providing me all the
>> steps required to make things work? Also I have heard about BATIK which is
>> Apache's implementation of SVG, but I am not sure it can be used for web
>> based apps or not.
>> If somebody knows please enlighten me about the step by step procedure for
>> doing that.
>> thanks
>> --
>> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Batik-Svg-for-web-tp17652069p17652069.html
>> Sent from the Batik - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>
>
> Jeremias Maerki
>
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Re: Batik/Svg for web
Posted by Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>.
Though I'm not aware of any implementations of the combination (Firefox?),
SVG + XForms could be an interesting combination for building
applications. If someone builds that Batik browser plug-in we recently
talked about on batik-dev and an XForms integration for Batik, this
would become interesting. Just dreaming... ;-)
See also:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-SVG12-20040226/#xforms
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-svgxf1.html
On 04.06.2008 19:24:14 adambomb wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> I have to develop a web based app where I should be able to generate dynamic
> graphical content based on the user's input. I am using JSP pages on the
> front end. I found SVG to be the best thing available. After experimenting
> in inline SVG I found out that it lacks many features like user interaction,
> zoomability, javascript onclick features etc. And inline was easy to put in
> a jsp page. But I want a more robust and full featured output. But I am not
> able to implement the pure SVG. Could some body help me providing me all the
> steps required to make things work? Also I have heard about BATIK which is
> Apache's implementation of SVG, but I am not sure it can be used for web
> based apps or not.
> If somebody knows please enlighten me about the step by step procedure for
> doing that.
> thanks
> --
> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Batik-Svg-for-web-tp17652069p17652069.html
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>
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Re: Batik/Svg for web
Posted by adambomb <du...@yahoo.com>.
Now I am able to make the pure SVG(using Batik) and print it onto a stream ie
console(although it requires lot of refinement). But now I want to be able
to put it on server so that I can see it by hitting a link.
adambomb wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Thanks for an explanatory reply. When I say step by step i dont mean it
> literally. I have gone through this site. The information on the web
> seems all like a mish-mash and confusing. when I read through Batik , it
> seems like it's only meant for desktop apps and not web apps. All they
> have is swing stuff.
> They dont have anything to explain about taking stuff on a web server. I
> have worked with inline svg already. So I thought to come up with some
> kind of xml data from the database and use xslt to convert it into svg.
> Further I was thinking about using XSQL to get data in xml format.
> My problem is not about the display of the svg doc but more about getting
> the stuff converted to svg format.
> Thanks
>
> Andreas Neumann-7 wrote:
>>
>> What you want is certainly possible in SVG. If you do SVG only, it would
>> also run in Batik, but note that Batik Squiggle is a SVG viewer, not a
>> web-browser that also supports html or other web features.
>>
>> As an example, see http://www.carto.net/williams/yosemite/index.svg which
>> runs in all browsers (IE needs a SVG plugin) and Apache Batik. So
>> interactivity and data-loading with getURL/postURL/XMLHttpRequest is
>> certainly possible with SVG.
>>
>> We can't give you step by step instructions for your project of course -
>> since you aren't very concrete with what you want to do. Also, learning
>> SVG is your job. But you may find a few examples/tutorials at
>> http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/samples/ - most of the examples also run
>> in Batik. The ones that don't work in Batik are poorly written (old,
>> non-standard code) and not the fault of Batik. At this page you may also
>> find a couple of widgets written in SVG and ECMAScript.
>>
>> Hope this helps for a start,
>> Andreas
>>
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>> I have to develop a web based app where I should be able to generate
>>> dynamic
>>> graphical content based on the user's input. I am using JSP pages on
>>> the
>>> front end. I found SVG to be the best thing available. After
>>> experimenting
>>> in inline SVG I found out that it lacks many features like user
>>> interaction,
>>> zoomability, javascript onclick features etc. And inline was easy to put
>>> in
>>> a jsp page. But I want a more robust and full featured output. But I am
>>> not
>>> able to implement the pure SVG. Could some body help me providing me all
>>> the
>>> steps required to make things work? Also I have heard about BATIK which
>>> is
>>> Apache's implementation of SVG, but I am not sure it can be used for web
>>> based apps or not.
>>> If somebody knows please enlighten me about the step by step procedure
>>> for
>>> doing that.
>>> thanks
>>> --
>>> View this message in context:
>>> http://www.nabble.com/Batik-Svg-for-web-tp17652069p17652069.html
>>> Sent from the Batik - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>> Böschacherstrasse 6, CH-8624 Grüt/Gossau, Switzerland
>> Email: a.neumann@carto.net, Web:
>> * http://www.carto.net/ (Carto and SVG resources)
>> * http://www.carto.net/neumann/ (personal page)
>> * http://www.svgopen.org/ (SVG Open Conference)
>> * http://www.geofoto.ch/ (Georeferenced Photos of Switzerland)
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Re: Batik/Svg for web
Posted by adambomb <du...@yahoo.com>.
Hi,
Thanks for an explanatory reply. When I say step by step i dont mean it
literally. I have gone through this site. The information on the web seems
all like a mish-mash and confusing. when I read through Batik , it seems
like it's only meant for desktop apps and not web apps. All they have is
swing stuff.
They dont have anything to explain about taking stuff on a web server. I
have worked with inline svg already. So I thought to come up with some kind
of xml data from the database and use xslt to convert it into svg. Further I
was thinking about using XSQL to get data in xml format.
My problem is not about the display of the svg doc but more about getting
the stuff converted to svg format.
Thanks
Andreas Neumann-7 wrote:
>
> What you want is certainly possible in SVG. If you do SVG only, it would
> also run in Batik, but note that Batik Squiggle is a SVG viewer, not a
> web-browser that also supports html or other web features.
>
> As an example, see http://www.carto.net/williams/yosemite/index.svg which
> runs in all browsers (IE needs a SVG plugin) and Apache Batik. So
> interactivity and data-loading with getURL/postURL/XMLHttpRequest is
> certainly possible with SVG.
>
> We can't give you step by step instructions for your project of course -
> since you aren't very concrete with what you want to do. Also, learning
> SVG is your job. But you may find a few examples/tutorials at
> http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/samples/ - most of the examples also run
> in Batik. The ones that don't work in Batik are poorly written (old,
> non-standard code) and not the fault of Batik. At this page you may also
> find a couple of widgets written in SVG and ECMAScript.
>
> Hope this helps for a start,
> Andreas
>
>
>> Hi All,
>> I have to develop a web based app where I should be able to generate
>> dynamic
>> graphical content based on the user's input. I am using JSP pages on the
>> front end. I found SVG to be the best thing available. After
>> experimenting
>> in inline SVG I found out that it lacks many features like user
>> interaction,
>> zoomability, javascript onclick features etc. And inline was easy to put
>> in
>> a jsp page. But I want a more robust and full featured output. But I am
>> not
>> able to implement the pure SVG. Could some body help me providing me all
>> the
>> steps required to make things work? Also I have heard about BATIK which
>> is
>> Apache's implementation of SVG, but I am not sure it can be used for web
>> based apps or not.
>> If somebody knows please enlighten me about the step by step procedure
>> for
>> doing that.
>> thanks
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://www.nabble.com/Batik-Svg-for-web-tp17652069p17652069.html
>> Sent from the Batik - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
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>
>
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> Böschacherstrasse 6, CH-8624 Grüt/Gossau, Switzerland
> Email: a.neumann@carto.net, Web:
> * http://www.carto.net/ (Carto and SVG resources)
> * http://www.carto.net/neumann/ (personal page)
> * http://www.svgopen.org/ (SVG Open Conference)
> * http://www.geofoto.ch/ (Georeferenced Photos of Switzerland)
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Re: Batik/Svg for web
Posted by Andreas Neumann <a....@carto.net>.
What you want is certainly possible in SVG. If you do SVG only, it would
also run in Batik, but note that Batik Squiggle is a SVG viewer, not a
web-browser that also supports html or other web features.
As an example, see http://www.carto.net/williams/yosemite/index.svg which
runs in all browsers (IE needs a SVG plugin) and Apache Batik. So
interactivity and data-loading with getURL/postURL/XMLHttpRequest is
certainly possible with SVG.
We can't give you step by step instructions for your project of course -
since you aren't very concrete with what you want to do. Also, learning
SVG is your job. But you may find a few examples/tutorials at
http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/samples/ - most of the examples also run
in Batik. The ones that don't work in Batik are poorly written (old,
non-standard code) and not the fault of Batik. At this page you may also
find a couple of widgets written in SVG and ECMAScript.
Hope this helps for a start,
Andreas
> Hi All,
> I have to develop a web based app where I should be able to generate
> dynamic
> graphical content based on the user's input. I am using JSP pages on the
> front end. I found SVG to be the best thing available. After
> experimenting
> in inline SVG I found out that it lacks many features like user
> interaction,
> zoomability, javascript onclick features etc. And inline was easy to put
> in
> a jsp page. But I want a more robust and full featured output. But I am
> not
> able to implement the pure SVG. Could some body help me providing me all
> the
> steps required to make things work? Also I have heard about BATIK which is
> Apache's implementation of SVG, but I am not sure it can be used for web
> based apps or not.
> If somebody knows please enlighten me about the step by step procedure for
> doing that.
> thanks
> --
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