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[Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Hi all,
I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator [0].
At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better name for the project [1].
Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
Here are the names:
- Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
- Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
- Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the chain theme as well)
- “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote from [3]: "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning covered with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the other dew drops.
And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts)
In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please feel free to justify your choice.
Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of a strong contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick a name.
I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until Tuesday afternoon PST time.
Cheers,
Antoine
[0]: https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
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[2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
[3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Sharan F <sh...@apache.org>.
+1 for Jal
Thanks
Sharan
On Mon, 25 Feb 2019, 05:44 Kenneth Knowles, <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1 for Jal
>
> Took a look around the web and didn't see anything to worry about.
>
> It already sounds like an Apache project name :-)
>
> Kenn
>
> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 12:20 AM Pierre Smits <pi...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > +1 for 'Jal'
> >
> > Nice sounding, different, short.
> > .
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > *Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
> > *Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
> > Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
> > *Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without
> privileges)
> > since 2008*
> > Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11:47 PM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator
> [0].
> > >
> > > At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better
> name
> > > for the project [1].
> > >
> > > Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
> > >
> > > Here are the names:
> > > - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with
> the
> > > crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
> > > - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires
> > (Wikipedia)
> > > , in the chain theme)
> > > - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a
> chain,
> > > track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the
> chain
> > > theme as well)
> > > - “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote from
> > > [3]: "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning
> > covered
> > > with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the
> > other
> > > dew drops.
> > > And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew
> > > drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
> > > conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts)
> > >
> > > In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please feel
> > > free to justify your choice.
> > > Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of a
> > > strong contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick a
> > > name.
> > >
> > > I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until Tuesday
> > > afternoon PST time.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Antoine
> > >
> > > [0]:
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> > > [1]:
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8d8014f53f140a3ccdd517c3c303de1d45cc04afdaee5961ac43e7fc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> > > [2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
> > > [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org>.
+1 for Jal
Took a look around the web and didn't see anything to worry about.
It already sounds like an Apache project name :-)
Kenn
On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 12:20 AM Pierre Smits <pi...@apache.org>
wrote:
> +1 for 'Jal'
>
> Nice sounding, different, short.
> .
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
> *Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
> Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
> *Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without privileges)
> since 2008*
> Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11:47 PM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator [0].
> >
> > At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better name
> > for the project [1].
> >
> > Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
> >
> > Here are the names:
> > - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with the
> > crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
> > - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires
> (Wikipedia)
> > , in the chain theme)
> > - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a chain,
> > track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the chain
> > theme as well)
> > - “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote from
> > [3]: "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning
> covered
> > with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the
> other
> > dew drops.
> > And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew
> > drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
> > conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts)
> >
> > In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please feel
> > free to justify your choice.
> > Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of a
> > strong contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick a
> > name.
> >
> > I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until Tuesday
> > afternoon PST time.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Antoine
> >
> > [0]:
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> > [1]:
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8d8014f53f140a3ccdd517c3c303de1d45cc04afdaee5961ac43e7fc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> > [2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
> > [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@apache.org>.
+1 for 'Jal'
Nice sounding, different, short.
.
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
*Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
*Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without privileges)
since 2008*
Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11:47 PM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator [0].
>
> At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better name
> for the project [1].
>
> Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
>
> Here are the names:
> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with the
> crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires (Wikipedia)
> , in the chain theme)
> - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a chain,
> track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the chain
> theme as well)
> - “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote from
> [3]: "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning covered
> with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the other
> dew drops.
> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew
> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts)
>
> In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please feel
> free to justify your choice.
> Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of a
> strong contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick a
> name.
>
> I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until Tuesday
> afternoon PST time.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Antoine
>
> [0]:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> [1]:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8d8014f53f140a3ccdd517c3c303de1d45cc04afdaee5961ac43e7fc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> [2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
> [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
I can paint that shed.
Here is an idea - Apache Lava
> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:58 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking with the
> fruit/veggie theme?
>
> Jackfruit
> Jambolan
> Jocote
> Kumquat
> KangKong
> Kabosu
>
> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena cava of
> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava. But is seemed like a
> name you could use after Cava.
>
> Just brainstorming.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>
>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the cusp of
>> graduation. :)
>>
>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>
>>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the
>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars
>> references. The view of the community is that the community is likely to
>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a different name.
>>>
>>> We need to pick another name.
>>>
>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi -
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either
>> messed up or autocorrected.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165>Establish
>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>>>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>>>>
>>>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I expected
>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
>>>>
>>>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it to
>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The ticket is now open:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What language should I use?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named
>> Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will
>> test the waters over there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
There is already a bistro project: https://facebook.github.io/bistro/
> On Mar 21, 2019, at 11:06 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>
> This deeply appeals to my French roots.
>
> OK I’ll check we’re not infringing anything.
>
>> On Mar 21, 2019, at 11:05 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>>
>> How about Apache Bistro:
>>
>> o sounds like crypto
>> o Blockchain dISTRO
>> o distributed kinda means decentralized as well.
>>
>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
This deeply appeals to my French roots.
OK I’ll check we’re not infringing anything.
> On Mar 21, 2019, at 11:05 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>
> How about Apache Bistro:
>
> o sounds like crypto
> o Blockchain dISTRO
> o distributed kinda means decentralized as well.
>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
How about Apache Bistro:
o sounds like crypto
o Blockchain dISTRO
o distributed kinda means decentralized as well.
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
Thanks for your suggestion. Unfortunately, InBlock LLC is a blockchain company.
> On Mar 21, 2019, at 4:54 AM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> another suggestion from the back of the peanut gallery: Apache InBlock, so
> phonetically there's block and chain (and Apache :o))
>
> best regards,
> juan pablo
>
>
> El jue., 21 mar. 2019 8:04, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> escribió:
>
>> I’m not sure about avac, doesn’t roll off the tongue.
>>
>> On the theme of “no one”, I found Tuweni (from
>> https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php <
>> https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php>).
>>
>> Would that work?
>>
>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 12:02 PM, larry mccay <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Apache Avac ???
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There exists an outis open source project.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe we can riff on this name though.
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
>>>>>
>>>>> Kenn
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
>>>>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer <
>> aengineer@hortonworks.com
>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
>>>> One
>>>>>> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
>>>> trademarks
>>>>>> or claims.
>>>>>> --Anu
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that
>> no
>>>>>> one else has thought off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme" <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deep sigh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock. Looks like code
>>>>>> around
>>>>>>> ethereum. Maybe too close?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme <antoine@toulme.name
>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>> rather unambiguous across languages.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Apache PawPaw
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
>>>>>> with the
>>>>>>>>>>>> fruit/veggie theme?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jackfruit
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jambolan
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jocote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kumquat
>>>>>>>>>>>> KangKong
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kabosu
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
>>>>>> cava of
>>>>>>>>>>>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava. But is
>>>>>> seemed
>>>>>>>> like a
>>>>>>>>>>>> name you could use after Cava.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just brainstorming.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> cusp of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> graduation. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically,
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star
>>>>>> Wars
>>>>>>>>>>>>> references. The view of the community is that the community is
>>>>>>>> likely to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a
>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>> name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We need to pick another name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <
>>>>>> dave2wave@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <
>>>>>> dave2wave@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>>>>>>>> messed up or autocorrected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>>>>> Establish
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I
>>>>>>>> expected
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple
>>>>>> autocorrecting it
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski
>>>>>> <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ticket is now open:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>>>>>>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39
>>>>>> -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on
>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What language should I use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so
>>>>>> I'd say:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character
>>>>>> named
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08
>>>>>>>> -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> test the waters over there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the
>>>>>>>> existence of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <ju...@gmail.com>.
another suggestion from the back of the peanut gallery: Apache InBlock, so
phonetically there's block and chain (and Apache :o))
best regards,
juan pablo
El jue., 21 mar. 2019 8:04, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> escribió:
> I’m not sure about avac, doesn’t roll off the tongue.
>
> On the theme of “no one”, I found Tuweni (from
> https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php <
> https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php>).
>
> Would that work?
>
> > On Mar 20, 2019, at 12:02 PM, larry mccay <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Apache Avac ???
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
> wrote:
> >
> >> There exists an outis open source project.
> >>
> >> Maybe we can riff on this name though.
> >>
> >>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
> >>>
> >>> So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
> >>>
> >>> Kenn
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
> >>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer <
> aengineer@hortonworks.com
> >>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
> >> One
> >>>> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
> >> trademarks
> >>>> or claims.
> >>>> --Anu
> >>>>
> >>>> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that
> no
> >>>> one else has thought off.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme" <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Deep sigh.
> >>>>
> >>>> OK.
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock. Looks like code
> >>>> around
> >>>>> ethereum. Maybe too close?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme <antoine@toulme.name
> >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
> >>>> that is
> >>>>>> rather unambiguous across languages.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Apache PawPaw
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
> >>>> with the
> >>>>>>>>>> fruit/veggie theme?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Jackfruit
> >>>>>>>>>> Jambolan
> >>>>>>>>>> Jocote
> >>>>>>>>>> Kumquat
> >>>>>>>>>> KangKong
> >>>>>>>>>> Kabosu
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
> >>>> cava of
> >>>>>>>>>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava. But is
> >>>> seemed
> >>>>>> like a
> >>>>>>>>>> name you could use after Cava.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Just brainstorming.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Mike
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on
> >>>> the
> >>>>>> cusp of
> >>>>>>>>>>> graduation. :)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <
> >>>> antoine@toulme.name>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically,
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star
> >>>> Wars
> >>>>>>>>>>> references. The view of the community is that the community is
> >>>>>> likely to
> >>>>>>>>>>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a
> >>>> different
> >>>>>> name.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> We need to pick another name.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <
> >>>> dave2wave@comcast.net>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <
> >>>> antoine@toulme.name>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <
> >>>> dave2wave@comcast.net>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something
> >>>> is
> >>>>>> either
> >>>>>>>>>>> messed up or autocorrected.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
> >>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
> >>>>>>> Establish
> >>>>>>>>>>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I
> >>>>>> expected
> >>>>>>>>>>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple
> >>>> autocorrecting it
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski
> >>>> <ji...@jaguNET.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <
> >>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ticket is now open:
> >>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <
> >>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perfect, thank you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
> >>>>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39
> >>>> -0800:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on
> >>>> list.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What language should I use?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so
> >>>> I'd say:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character
> >>>> named
> >>>>>>>>>>> Obi-Wan Kenobi"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
> >>>>>>>>>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08
> >>>>>> -0800:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn
> >>>> and
> >>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>> test the waters over there.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the
> >>>>>> existence of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
I kept messing that one up. Apologies.
> On Mar 25, 2019, at 10:15 AM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Hi -
>
> Correction. VP, Brand approved the name.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>> On Mar 25, 2019, at 10:13 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>
>> Legal has approved the name. We are a go with Apache Tuweni.
>>
>> Thanks to all for helping figure this riddle out, and the many colors we painted this bike shed together :D
>>
>> Antoine
>>
>>> On Mar 22, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-167 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-167> for this name.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Mar 22, 2019, at 11:46 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> “Qui ne dit mot consent”. I haven’t heard anyone say no, so this name gets to the next round.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Antoine
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 21, 2019, at 4:56 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Any strong objections to Tuweni?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2019, at 12:04 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m not sure about avac, doesn’t roll off the tongue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the theme of “no one”, I found Tuweni (from https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php <https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php>).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would that work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 12:02 PM, larry mccay <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apache Avac ???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There exists an outis open source project.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe we can riff on this name though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kenn
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
>>>>>>>>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer <aengineer@hortonworks.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
>>>>>>>> One
>>>>>>>>>> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
>>>>>>>> trademarks
>>>>>>>>>> or claims.
>>>>>>>>>> --Anu
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that no
>>>>>>>>>> one else has thought off.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme" <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Deep sigh.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OK.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock. Looks like code
>>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>>> ethereum. Maybe too close?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
>>>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>>>>>> rather unambiguous across languages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache PawPaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
>>>>>>>>>> with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fruit/veggie theme?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jackfruit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jambolan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jocote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kumquat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KangKong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kabosu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
>>>>>>>>>> cava of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava. But is
>>>>>>>>>> seemed
>>>>>>>>>>>> like a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name you could use after Cava.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just brainstorming.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> cusp of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graduation. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically,
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star
>>>>>>>>>> Wars
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> references. The view of the community is that the community is
>>>>>>>>>>>> likely to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a
>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>>> name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We need to pick another name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <
>>>>>>>>>> dave2wave@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <
>>>>>>>>>> dave2wave@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messed up or autocorrected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Establish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I
>>>>>>>>>>>> expected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple
>>>>>>>>>> autocorrecting it
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski
>>>>>>>>>> <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>>>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ticket is now open:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>>>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>>>>>>>>>>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39
>>>>>>>>>> -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on
>>>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What language should I use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so
>>>>>>>>>> I'd say:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character
>>>>>>>>>> named
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08
>>>>>>>>>>>> -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test the waters over there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the
>>>>>>>>>>>> existence of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Hi -
Correction. VP, Brand approved the name.
Regards,
Dave
> On Mar 25, 2019, at 10:13 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>
> Legal has approved the name. We are a go with Apache Tuweni.
>
> Thanks to all for helping figure this riddle out, and the many colors we painted this bike shed together :D
>
> Antoine
>
>> On Mar 22, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>
>> I have filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-167 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-167> for this name.
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 22, 2019, at 11:46 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>
>>> “Qui ne dit mot consent”. I haven’t heard anyone say no, so this name gets to the next round.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Antoine
>>>
>>>> On Mar 21, 2019, at 4:56 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Any strong objections to Tuweni?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 21, 2019, at 12:04 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m not sure about avac, doesn’t roll off the tongue.
>>>>>
>>>>> On the theme of “no one”, I found Tuweni (from https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php <https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php>).
>>>>>
>>>>> Would that work?
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 12:02 PM, larry mccay <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apache Avac ???
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There exists an outis open source project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe we can riff on this name though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kenn
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
>>>>>>>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer <aengineer@hortonworks.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
>>>>>>> One
>>>>>>>>> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
>>>>>>> trademarks
>>>>>>>>> or claims.
>>>>>>>>> --Anu
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that no
>>>>>>>>> one else has thought off.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme" <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Deep sigh.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock. Looks like code
>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>> ethereum. Maybe too close?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
>>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>>>>> rather unambiguous across languages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache PawPaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
>>>>>>>>> with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fruit/veggie theme?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jackfruit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jambolan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jocote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kumquat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KangKong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kabosu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
>>>>>>>>> cava of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava. But is
>>>>>>>>> seemed
>>>>>>>>>>> like a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name you could use after Cava.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just brainstorming.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> cusp of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graduation. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically,
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star
>>>>>>>>> Wars
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> references. The view of the community is that the community is
>>>>>>>>>>> likely to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a
>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>> name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We need to pick another name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <
>>>>>>>>> dave2wave@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <
>>>>>>>>> dave2wave@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messed up or autocorrected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>>>>>>>> Establish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I
>>>>>>>>>>> expected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple
>>>>>>>>> autocorrecting it
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski
>>>>>>>>> <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ticket is now open:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>>>>>>>>>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39
>>>>>>>>> -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on
>>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What language should I use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so
>>>>>>>>> I'd say:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character
>>>>>>>>> named
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08
>>>>>>>>>>> -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test the waters over there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the
>>>>>>>>>>> existence of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
Legal has approved the name. We are a go with Apache Tuweni.
Thanks to all for helping figure this riddle out, and the many colors we painted this bike shed together :D
Antoine
> On Mar 22, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>
> I have filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-167 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-167> for this name.
>
>
>> On Mar 22, 2019, at 11:46 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>
>> “Qui ne dit mot consent”. I haven’t heard anyone say no, so this name gets to the next round.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Antoine
>>
>>> On Mar 21, 2019, at 4:56 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>
>>> Any strong objections to Tuweni?
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Mar 21, 2019, at 12:04 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I’m not sure about avac, doesn’t roll off the tongue.
>>>>
>>>> On the theme of “no one”, I found Tuweni (from https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php <https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php>).
>>>>
>>>> Would that work?
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 12:02 PM, larry mccay <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Apache Avac ???
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There exists an outis open source project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe we can riff on this name though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kenn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
>>>>>>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer <aengineer@hortonworks.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
>>>>>> One
>>>>>>>> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
>>>>>> trademarks
>>>>>>>> or claims.
>>>>>>>> --Anu
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that no
>>>>>>>> one else has thought off.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme" <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Deep sigh.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock. Looks like code
>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>> ethereum. Maybe too close?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>>>> rather unambiguous across languages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache PawPaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
>>>>>>>> with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fruit/veggie theme?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jackfruit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jambolan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jocote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kumquat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KangKong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kabosu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
>>>>>>>> cava of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava. But is
>>>>>>>> seemed
>>>>>>>>>> like a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name you could use after Cava.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just brainstorming.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> cusp of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graduation. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically,
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star
>>>>>>>> Wars
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> references. The view of the community is that the community is
>>>>>>>>>> likely to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a
>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>> name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We need to pick another name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <
>>>>>>>> dave2wave@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <
>>>>>>>> dave2wave@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messed up or autocorrected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>>>>>>> Establish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I
>>>>>>>>>> expected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple
>>>>>>>> autocorrecting it
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski
>>>>>>>> <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ticket is now open:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>>>>>>>>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39
>>>>>>>> -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on
>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What language should I use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so
>>>>>>>> I'd say:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character
>>>>>>>> named
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08
>>>>>>>>>> -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test the waters over there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the
>>>>>>>>>> existence of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
I have filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-167 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-167> for this name.
> On Mar 22, 2019, at 11:46 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>
> “Qui ne dit mot consent”. I haven’t heard anyone say no, so this name gets to the next round.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Antoine
>
>> On Mar 21, 2019, at 4:56 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>
>> Any strong objections to Tuweni?
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 21, 2019, at 12:04 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>
>>> I’m not sure about avac, doesn’t roll off the tongue.
>>>
>>> On the theme of “no one”, I found Tuweni (from https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php <https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php>).
>>>
>>> Would that work?
>>>
>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 12:02 PM, larry mccay <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Apache Avac ???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There exists an outis open source project.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe we can riff on this name though.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kenn
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
>>>>>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer <aengineer@hortonworks.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
>>>>> One
>>>>>>> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
>>>>> trademarks
>>>>>>> or claims.
>>>>>>> --Anu
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that no
>>>>>>> one else has thought off.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme" <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Deep sigh.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock. Looks like code
>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>> ethereum. Maybe too close?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>>> rather unambiguous across languages.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache PawPaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
>>>>>>> with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fruit/veggie theme?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jackfruit
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jambolan
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jocote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kumquat
>>>>>>>>>>>>> KangKong
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kabosu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
>>>>>>> cava of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava. But is
>>>>>>> seemed
>>>>>>>>> like a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> name you could use after Cava.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just brainstorming.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> cusp of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graduation. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically,
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star
>>>>>>> Wars
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> references. The view of the community is that the community is
>>>>>>>>> likely to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a
>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>> name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We need to pick another name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <
>>>>>>> dave2wave@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <
>>>>>>> dave2wave@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messed up or autocorrected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>>>>>> Establish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I
>>>>>>>>> expected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple
>>>>>>> autocorrecting it
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski
>>>>>>> <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ticket is now open:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>>>>>>>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39
>>>>>>> -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on
>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What language should I use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so
>>>>>>> I'd say:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character
>>>>>>> named
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08
>>>>>>>>> -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test the waters over there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the
>>>>>>>>> existence of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
“Qui ne dit mot consent”. I haven’t heard anyone say no, so this name gets to the next round.
Cheers,
Antoine
> On Mar 21, 2019, at 4:56 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>
> Any strong objections to Tuweni?
>
>
>> On Mar 21, 2019, at 12:04 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>
>> I’m not sure about avac, doesn’t roll off the tongue.
>>
>> On the theme of “no one”, I found Tuweni (from https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php <https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php>).
>>
>> Would that work?
>>
>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 12:02 PM, larry mccay <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Apache Avac ???
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There exists an outis open source project.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe we can riff on this name though.
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
>>>>>
>>>>> Kenn
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
>>>>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer <aengineer@hortonworks.com
>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
>>>> One
>>>>>> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
>>>> trademarks
>>>>>> or claims.
>>>>>> --Anu
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that no
>>>>>> one else has thought off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme" <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deep sigh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock. Looks like code
>>>>>> around
>>>>>>> ethereum. Maybe too close?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>> rather unambiguous across languages.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Apache PawPaw
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
>>>>>> with the
>>>>>>>>>>>> fruit/veggie theme?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jackfruit
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jambolan
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jocote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kumquat
>>>>>>>>>>>> KangKong
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kabosu
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
>>>>>> cava of
>>>>>>>>>>>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava. But is
>>>>>> seemed
>>>>>>>> like a
>>>>>>>>>>>> name you could use after Cava.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just brainstorming.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> cusp of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> graduation. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically,
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star
>>>>>> Wars
>>>>>>>>>>>>> references. The view of the community is that the community is
>>>>>>>> likely to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a
>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>> name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We need to pick another name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <
>>>>>> dave2wave@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <
>>>>>> dave2wave@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>>>>>>>> messed up or autocorrected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>>>>> Establish
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I
>>>>>>>> expected
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple
>>>>>> autocorrecting it
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski
>>>>>> <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ticket is now open:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>>>>>>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39
>>>>>> -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on
>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What language should I use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so
>>>>>> I'd say:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character
>>>>>> named
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08
>>>>>>>> -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> test the waters over there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the
>>>>>>>> existence of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
Any strong objections to Tuweni?
> On Mar 21, 2019, at 12:04 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>
> I’m not sure about avac, doesn’t roll off the tongue.
>
> On the theme of “no one”, I found Tuweni (from https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php <https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php>).
>
> Would that work?
>
>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 12:02 PM, larry mccay <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Apache Avac ???
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>
>>> There exists an outis open source project.
>>>
>>> Maybe we can riff on this name though.
>>>
>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
>>>>
>>>> So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
>>>>
>>>> Kenn
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
>>>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer <aengineer@hortonworks.com
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
>>> One
>>>>> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
>>> trademarks
>>>>> or claims.
>>>>> --Anu
>>>>>
>>>>> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that no
>>>>> one else has thought off.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme" <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Deep sigh.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock. Looks like code
>>>>> around
>>>>>> ethereum. Maybe too close?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
>>>>> that is
>>>>>>> rather unambiguous across languages.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Apache PawPaw
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
>>>>> with the
>>>>>>>>>>> fruit/veggie theme?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jackfruit
>>>>>>>>>>> Jambolan
>>>>>>>>>>> Jocote
>>>>>>>>>>> Kumquat
>>>>>>>>>>> KangKong
>>>>>>>>>>> Kabosu
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
>>>>> cava of
>>>>>>>>>>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava. But is
>>>>> seemed
>>>>>>> like a
>>>>>>>>>>> name you could use after Cava.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just brainstorming.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> cusp of
>>>>>>>>>>>> graduation. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically,
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star
>>>>> Wars
>>>>>>>>>>>> references. The view of the community is that the community is
>>>>>>> likely to
>>>>>>>>>>>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a
>>>>> different
>>>>>>> name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We need to pick another name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <
>>>>> dave2wave@comcast.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <
>>>>> dave2wave@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something
>>>>> is
>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>>>>>>> messed up or autocorrected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>>>> Establish
>>>>>>>>>>>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I
>>>>>>> expected
>>>>>>>>>>>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple
>>>>> autocorrecting it
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski
>>>>> <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ticket is now open:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>>>>>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39
>>>>> -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on
>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What language should I use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so
>>>>> I'd say:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character
>>>>> named
>>>>>>>>>>>> Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>>>>>>>>>>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08
>>>>>>> -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>> test the waters over there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the
>>>>>>> existence of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
I’m not sure about avac, doesn’t roll off the tongue.
On the theme of “no one”, I found Tuweni (from https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php <https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php>).
Would that work?
> On Mar 20, 2019, at 12:02 PM, larry mccay <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Apache Avac ???
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>
>> There exists an outis open source project.
>>
>> Maybe we can riff on this name though.
>>
>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
>>>
>>> So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
>>>
>>> Kenn
>>>
>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
>>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer <aengineer@hortonworks.com
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
>> One
>>>> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
>> trademarks
>>>> or claims.
>>>> --Anu
>>>>
>>>> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that no
>>>> one else has thought off.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme" <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Deep sigh.
>>>>
>>>> OK.
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock. Looks like code
>>>> around
>>>>> ethereum. Maybe too close?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
>>>> that is
>>>>>> rather unambiguous across languages.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Apache PawPaw
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
>>>> with the
>>>>>>>>>> fruit/veggie theme?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jackfruit
>>>>>>>>>> Jambolan
>>>>>>>>>> Jocote
>>>>>>>>>> Kumquat
>>>>>>>>>> KangKong
>>>>>>>>>> Kabosu
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
>>>> cava of
>>>>>>>>>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava. But is
>>>> seemed
>>>>>> like a
>>>>>>>>>> name you could use after Cava.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just brainstorming.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on
>>>> the
>>>>>> cusp of
>>>>>>>>>>> graduation. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically,
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star
>>>> Wars
>>>>>>>>>>> references. The view of the community is that the community is
>>>>>> likely to
>>>>>>>>>>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a
>>>> different
>>>>>> name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We need to pick another name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <
>>>> dave2wave@comcast.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <
>>>> dave2wave@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something
>>>> is
>>>>>> either
>>>>>>>>>>> messed up or autocorrected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>>> Establish
>>>>>>>>>>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I
>>>>>> expected
>>>>>>>>>>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple
>>>> autocorrecting it
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski
>>>> <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ticket is now open:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>>>>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39
>>>> -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on
>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What language should I use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so
>>>> I'd say:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character
>>>> named
>>>>>>>>>>> Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>>>>>>>>>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08
>>>>>> -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn
>>>> and
>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> test the waters over there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the
>>>>>> existence of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by larry mccay <lm...@apache.org>.
Apache Avac ???
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
> There exists an outis open source project.
>
> Maybe we can riff on this name though.
>
> > On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
> >
> > So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
> >
> > Kenn
> >
> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
> > [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer <aengineer@hortonworks.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
> One
> >> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
> trademarks
> >> or claims.
> >> --Anu
> >>
> >> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that no
> >> one else has thought off.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme" <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
> >>
> >> Deep sigh.
> >>
> >> OK.
> >>
> >>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock. Looks like code
> >> around
> >>> ethereum. Maybe too close?
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
> >>>>
> >>>> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
> >>>>
> >>>> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
> >> that is
> >>>> rather unambiguous across languages.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Apache PawPaw
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
> >> with the
> >>>>>>>> fruit/veggie theme?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Jackfruit
> >>>>>>>> Jambolan
> >>>>>>>> Jocote
> >>>>>>>> Kumquat
> >>>>>>>> KangKong
> >>>>>>>> Kabosu
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
> >> cava of
> >>>>>>>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
> >>>>>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava. But is
> >> seemed
> >>>> like a
> >>>>>>>> name you could use after Cava.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Just brainstorming.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Mike
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on
> >> the
> >>>> cusp of
> >>>>>>>>> graduation. :)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <
> >> antoine@toulme.name>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
> >>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically,
> >> the
> >>>>>>>>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star
> >> Wars
> >>>>>>>>> references. The view of the community is that the community is
> >>>> likely to
> >>>>>>>>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a
> >> different
> >>>> name.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> We need to pick another name.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <
> >> dave2wave@comcast.net>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <
> >> antoine@toulme.name>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <
> >> dave2wave@comcast.net>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something
> >> is
> >>>> either
> >>>>>>>>> messed up or autocorrected.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
> >>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
> >>>>> Establish
> >>>>>>>>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I
> >>>> expected
> >>>>>>>>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple
> >> autocorrecting it
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>> Dave
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski
> >> <ji...@jaguNET.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <
> >>>> antoine@toulme.name>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ticket is now open:
> >>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <
> >>>> antoine@toulme.name>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perfect, thank you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
> >>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39
> >> -0800:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on
> >> list.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What language should I use?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so
> >> I'd say:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character
> >> named
> >>>>>>>>> Obi-Wan Kenobi"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
> >>>>>>>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08
> >>>> -0800:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn
> >> and
> >>>> will
> >>>>>>>>> test the waters over there.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the
> >>>> existence of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
There exists an outis open source project.
Maybe we can riff on this name though.
> On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
>
> So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
>
> Kenn
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer <ae...@hortonworks.com>
> wrote:
>
>> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No One
>> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any trademarks
>> or claims.
>> --Anu
>>
>> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that no
>> one else has thought off.
>>
>>
>> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme" <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>
>> Deep sigh.
>>
>> OK.
>>
>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock. Looks like code
>> around
>>> ethereum. Maybe too close?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
>>>>
>>>> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
>> that is
>>>> rather unambiguous across languages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apache PawPaw
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
>> with the
>>>>>>>> fruit/veggie theme?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jackfruit
>>>>>>>> Jambolan
>>>>>>>> Jocote
>>>>>>>> Kumquat
>>>>>>>> KangKong
>>>>>>>> Kabosu
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
>> cava of
>>>>>>>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>>>>>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava. But is
>> seemed
>>>> like a
>>>>>>>> name you could use after Cava.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just brainstorming.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on
>> the
>>>> cusp of
>>>>>>>>> graduation. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically,
>> the
>>>>>>>>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star
>> Wars
>>>>>>>>> references. The view of the community is that the community is
>>>> likely to
>>>>>>>>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a
>> different
>>>> name.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We need to pick another name.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <
>> dave2wave@comcast.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <
>> dave2wave@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something
>> is
>>>> either
>>>>>>>>> messed up or autocorrected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>> Establish
>>>>>>>>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>>>>>>>>>>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I
>>>> expected
>>>>>>>>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple
>> autocorrecting it
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski
>> <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ticket is now open:
>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>>>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39
>> -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on
>> list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What language should I use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so
>> I'd say:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character
>> named
>>>>>>>>> Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>>>>>>>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08
>>>> -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn
>> and
>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> test the waters over there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the
>>>> existence of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org>.
Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
Kenn
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer <ae...@hortonworks.com>
wrote:
> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No One
> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any trademarks
> or claims.
> --Anu
>
> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that no
> one else has thought off.
>
>
> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme" <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>
> Deep sigh.
>
> OK.
>
> > On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock. Looks like code
> around
> > ethereum. Maybe too close?
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
> >>
> >> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
> >>
> >> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
> >>
> >>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
> >>>
> >>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
> that is
> >> rather unambiguous across languages.
> >>>>
> >>>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Apache PawPaw
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
> with the
> >>>>>> fruit/veggie theme?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jackfruit
> >>>>>> Jambolan
> >>>>>> Jocote
> >>>>>> Kumquat
> >>>>>> KangKong
> >>>>>> Kabosu
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
> cava of
> >>>>>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
> >>>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava. But is
> seemed
> >> like a
> >>>>>> name you could use after Cava.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Just brainstorming.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mike
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on
> the
> >> cusp of
> >>>>>>> graduation. :)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <
> antoine@toulme.name>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
> >>>>>>>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically,
> the
> >>>>>>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star
> Wars
> >>>>>>> references. The view of the community is that the community is
> >> likely to
> >>>>>>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a
> different
> >> name.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> We need to pick another name.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <
> dave2wave@comcast.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi -
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <
> antoine@toulme.name>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <
> dave2wave@comcast.net>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something
> is
> >> either
> >>>>>>> messed up or autocorrected.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
> >>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
> >>> Establish
> >>>>>>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
> >>>>>>>>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I
> >> expected
> >>>>>>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple
> autocorrecting it
> >> to
> >>>>>>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>> Dave
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>> Dave
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski
> <ji...@jaguNET.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <
> >> antoine@toulme.name>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The ticket is now open:
> >>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <
> >> antoine@toulme.name>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perfect, thank you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
> >> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39
> -0800:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on
> list.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What language should I use?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so
> I'd say:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character
> named
> >>>>>>> Obi-Wan Kenobi"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
> >>>>>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08
> >> -0800:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn
> and
> >> will
> >>>>>>> test the waters over there.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the
> >> existence of
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Anu Engineer <ae...@hortonworks.com>.
At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No One (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any trademarks or claims.
--Anu
Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that no one else has thought off.
On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme" <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
Deep sigh.
OK.
> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock. Looks like code around
> ethereum. Maybe too close?
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>
>> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
>>
>> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
>>
>> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
>>
>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
>>>
>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name that is
>> rather unambiguous across languages.
>>>>
>>>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Apache PawPaw
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking with the
>>>>>> fruit/veggie theme?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jackfruit
>>>>>> Jambolan
>>>>>> Jocote
>>>>>> Kumquat
>>>>>> KangKong
>>>>>> Kabosu
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena cava of
>>>>>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>>>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava. But is seemed
>> like a
>>>>>> name you could use after Cava.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just brainstorming.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the
>> cusp of
>>>>>>> graduation. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>>>>>>>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the
>>>>>>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars
>>>>>>> references. The view of the community is that the community is
>> likely to
>>>>>>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a different
>> name.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We need to pick another name.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is
>> either
>>>>>>> messed up or autocorrected.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>> Establish
>>>>>>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>>>>>>>>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I
>> expected
>>>>>>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it
>> to
>>>>>>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ticket is now open:
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What language should I use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named
>>>>>>> Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>>>>>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08
>> -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and
>> will
>>>>>>> test the waters over there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the
>> existence of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
Deep sigh.
OK.
> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock. Looks like code around
> ethereum. Maybe too close?
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>
>> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
>>
>> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
>>
>> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
>>
>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
>>>
>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name that is
>> rather unambiguous across languages.
>>>>
>>>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Apache PawPaw
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking with the
>>>>>> fruit/veggie theme?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jackfruit
>>>>>> Jambolan
>>>>>> Jocote
>>>>>> Kumquat
>>>>>> KangKong
>>>>>> Kabosu
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena cava of
>>>>>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>>>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava. But is seemed
>> like a
>>>>>> name you could use after Cava.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just brainstorming.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the
>> cusp of
>>>>>>> graduation. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>>>>>>>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the
>>>>>>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars
>>>>>>> references. The view of the community is that the community is
>> likely to
>>>>>>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a different
>> name.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We need to pick another name.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is
>> either
>>>>>>> messed up or autocorrected.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>> Establish
>>>>>>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>>>>>>>>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I
>> expected
>>>>>>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it
>> to
>>>>>>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ticket is now open:
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>> antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What language should I use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named
>>>>>>> Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>>>>>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08
>> -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and
>> will
>>>>>>> test the waters over there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the
>> existence of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Michael Wall <mj...@gmail.com>.
I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock. Looks like code around
ethereum. Maybe too close?
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
>
> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
>
> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
>
> > On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
> >
> > Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
> >
> >> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name that is
> rather unambiguous across languages.
> >>
> >> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Apache PawPaw
> >>>
> >>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking with the
> >>>> fruit/veggie theme?
> >>>>
> >>>> Jackfruit
> >>>> Jambolan
> >>>> Jocote
> >>>> Kumquat
> >>>> KangKong
> >>>> Kabosu
> >>>>
> >>>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena cava of
> >>>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
> >>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava. But is seemed
> like a
> >>>> name you could use after Cava.
> >>>>
> >>>> Just brainstorming.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the
> cusp of
> >>>>> graduation. :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
> >>>>>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the
> >>>>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars
> >>>>> references. The view of the community is that the community is
> likely to
> >>>>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a different
> name.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We need to pick another name.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi -
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi -
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is
> either
> >>>>> messed up or autocorrected.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
> >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
> >Establish
> >>>>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
> >>>>>>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I
> expected
> >>>>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it
> to
> >>>>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>> Dave
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>> Dave
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <
> antoine@toulme.name>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> The ticket is now open:
> >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Antoine
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <
> antoine@toulme.name>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Perfect, thank you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What language should I use?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> .
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named
> >>>>> Obi-Wan Kenobi"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> .
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
> >>>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08
> -0800:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and
> will
> >>>>> test the waters over there.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the
> existence of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>
> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
>
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>
>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name that is rather unambiguous across languages.
>>
>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Apache PawPaw
>>>
>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking with the
>>>> fruit/veggie theme?
>>>>
>>>> Jackfruit
>>>> Jambolan
>>>> Jocote
>>>> Kumquat
>>>> KangKong
>>>> Kabosu
>>>>
>>>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena cava of
>>>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava. But is seemed like a
>>>> name you could use after Cava.
>>>>
>>>> Just brainstorming.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the cusp of
>>>>> graduation. :)
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>>>>>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the
>>>>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars
>>>>> references. The view of the community is that the community is likely to
>>>>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a different name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We need to pick another name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either
>>>>> messed up or autocorrected.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165>Establish
>>>>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>>>>>>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I expected
>>>>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it to
>>>>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The ticket is now open:
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What language should I use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named
>>>>> Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>>>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will
>>>>> test the waters over there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>
> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name that is rather unambiguous across languages.
>
> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
>
>
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>>
>> Apache PawPaw
>>
>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking with the
>>> fruit/veggie theme?
>>>
>>> Jackfruit
>>> Jambolan
>>> Jocote
>>> Kumquat
>>> KangKong
>>> Kabosu
>>>
>>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena cava of
>>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava. But is seemed like a
>>> name you could use after Cava.
>>>
>>> Just brainstorming.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the cusp of
>>>> graduation. :)
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>>>>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the
>>>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars
>>>> references. The view of the community is that the community is likely to
>>>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a different name.
>>>>>
>>>>> We need to pick another name.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either
>>>> messed up or autocorrected.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165>Establish
>>>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>>>>>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I expected
>>>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it to
>>>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The ticket is now open:
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What language should I use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named
>>>> Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will
>>>> test the waters over there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name that is rather unambiguous across languages.
Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>
> Apache PawPaw
>
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking with the
>> fruit/veggie theme?
>>
>> Jackfruit
>> Jambolan
>> Jocote
>> Kumquat
>> KangKong
>> Kabosu
>>
>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena cava of
>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava. But is seemed like a
>> name you could use after Cava.
>>
>> Just brainstorming.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the cusp of
>>> graduation. :)
>>>
>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>>>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the
>>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars
>>> references. The view of the community is that the community is likely to
>>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a different name.
>>>>
>>>> We need to pick another name.
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either
>>> messed up or autocorrected.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165>Establish
>>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>>>>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I expected
>>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it to
>>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The ticket is now open:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What language should I use?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named
>>> Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will
>>> test the waters over there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
Apache PawPaw
> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking with the
> fruit/veggie theme?
>
> Jackfruit
> Jambolan
> Jocote
> Kumquat
> KangKong
> Kabosu
>
> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena cava of
> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava. But is seemed like a
> name you could use after Cava.
>
> Just brainstorming.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>
>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the cusp of
>> graduation. :)
>>
>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>
>>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the
>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars
>> references. The view of the community is that the community is likely to
>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a different name.
>>>
>>> We need to pick another name.
>>>
>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi -
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either
>> messed up or autocorrected.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165>Establish
>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>>>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>>>>
>>>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I expected
>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
>>>>
>>>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it to
>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The ticket is now open:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What language should I use?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named
>> Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will
>> test the waters over there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org>.
Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking with the
fruit/veggie theme?
Jackfruit
Jambolan
Jocote
Kumquat
KangKong
Kabosu
I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena cava of
vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava. But is seemed like a
name you could use after Cava.
Just brainstorming.
Mike
On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the cusp of
> graduation. :)
>
> > On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
> >
> > All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
> >> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the
> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars
> references. The view of the community is that the community is likely to
> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a different name.
> >
> > We need to pick another name.
> >
> >> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi -
> >>
> >>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi -
> >>>>
> >>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either
> messed up or autocorrected.
> >>>>
> >>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165>Establish
> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
> >>>>
> >>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
> >>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
> >>
> >> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I expected
> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
> >>
> >> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it to
> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Dave
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The ticket is now open:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Antoine
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Perfect, thank you.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
> >>>>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> What language should I use?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
> >>>>>>>> .
> >>>>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named
> Obi-Wan Kenobi"
> >>>>>>>> .
> >>>>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Daniel
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
> d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
> >>>>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will
> test the waters over there.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
> >>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
> >>>>>>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Hi -
> On Mar 19, 2019, at 8:36 AM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 3/19/2019 8:19 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the cusp of graduation. :)
>
> I would say that's irrelevant. Skywalking is a term that is from the
> iron workers from ~100 years ago. Obi-wan, however, is likely unique
> and defendable to the Star Wars works.
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon had a lot of “Sky Walking”. It seems to be a theme in that genre of martial arts films.
>
> Was Skywalking able to get a mark? They have TM on their logo.
Anyone can put a TM on their product even if it infringes on another trademark. They can then be told to stop.
What really matters is Registration which allows the R in a circle.
In the case of Skywalking they had already operated under that name and OpenSkyWalking prior to Incubation.
The name was approved by Brand last November.
Regards,
Dave
> However,
> I would say the possibility people will use Star Wars references with
> Skywalking is relevant and should be warned to them.
>
> Regrds,
> KAM
>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 3/19/2019 8:19 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the cusp of graduation. :)
>
> I would say that's irrelevant.
Yeah, I simply said it was funny :)
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by "Kevin A. McGrail" <km...@apache.org>.
On 3/19/2019 8:19 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the cusp of graduation. :)
I would say that's irrelevant. Skywalking is a term that is from the
iron workers from ~100 years ago. Obi-wan, however, is likely unique
and defendable to the Star Wars works.
Was Skywalking able to get a mark? They have TM on their logo. However,
I would say the possibility people will use Star Wars references with
Skywalking is relevant and should be warned to them.
Regrds,
KAM
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the cusp of graduation. :)
> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>
> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the community must refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars references. The view of the community is that the community is likely to find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a different name.
>
> We need to pick another name.
>
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi -
>>
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi -
>>>>
>>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either messed up or autocorrected.
>>>>
>>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165>Establish whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>>>
>>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>>
>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I expected to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
>>
>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it to Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>>>>
>>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The ticket is now open: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>>>>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What language should I use?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the waters over there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 19/03/2019 05:42, Antoine Toulme wrote:
> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
Nitpick. VP, Brand Management rather than VP, Legal.
Mark
>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the community must refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars references. The view of the community is that the community is likely to find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a different name.
>
> We need to pick another name.
>
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi -
>>
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi -
>>>>
>>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either messed up or autocorrected.
>>>>
>>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165>Establish whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>>>
>>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>>
>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I expected to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
>>
>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it to Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>>>>
>>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The ticket is now open: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>>>>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What language should I use?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the waters over there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the community must refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars references. The view of the community is that the community is likely to find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a different name.
We need to pick another name.
> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Hi -
>
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi -
>>>
>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either messed up or autocorrected.
>>>
>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165>Establish whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>>
>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>
> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I expected to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
>
> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it to Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>>>
>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The ticket is now open: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>>>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What language should I use?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
>>>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the waters over there.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Hi -
> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi -
>>
>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either messed up or autocorrected.
>>
>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165>Establish whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>
>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I expected to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it to Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
Regards,
Dave
>>
>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>>
>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The ticket is now open: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Antoine
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What language should I use?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
>>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the waters over there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Hi -
>
> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either messed up or autocorrected.
>
> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165>Establish whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>
> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>
> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>
>>> The ticket is now open: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Antoine
>>>
>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>> What language should I use?
>>>>>
>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>>>>> .
>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>>>>> .
>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the waters over there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
>>>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Hi -
I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either messed up or autocorrected.
PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165>Establish whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
Regards,
Dave
> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>
> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>
>> The ticket is now open: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Antoine
>>
>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>
>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>>
>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>> What language should I use?
>>>>
>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>>>> .
>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>>>> .
>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the waters over there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
>>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>
> The ticket is now open: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>
> Cheers,
>
> Antoine
>
>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>
>> Perfect, thank you.
>>
>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>
>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>> What language should I use?
>>>
>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>>> .
>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>>> .
>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the waters over there.
>>>>>
>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
The ticket is now open: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
Cheers,
Antoine
> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>
> Perfect, thank you.
>
>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>
>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>> What language should I use?
>>
>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>> .
>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>> .
>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the waters over there.
>>>>
>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
Perfect, thank you.
> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>
> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>
> Thanks.
>
>> What language should I use?
>
> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
> .
> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan Kenobi"
> .
> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Daniel
>
>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>
>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the waters over there.
>>>
>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
Thanks.
> What language should I use?
The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
.
"In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan Kenobi"
.
with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
Cheers,
Daniel
> > On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> >
> > Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
> >> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the waters over there.
> >
> > When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
Hello Daniel,
I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list. Are you inferring something? What language should I use?
> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>
> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the waters over there.
>
> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Daniel
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the waters over there.
When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
FWIW I am very happy I received strong signal that this was not going to work, in a timely manner.
No worries and let’s move on.
> On Feb 28, 2019, at 1:28 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:26 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 2/28/2019 3:24 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It also seems to imply that usage of the name rainbow would somehow
>>>> be offensive or insensitive. Again, I'm not sure how. Nor am I aware
>>>> of situations where the LGBT+ community "has expressed concerns"
>>>> about usage *of the name* Rainbow.
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> Anyone could hypothetically be offended by anything, I could list a
>>> large number of theoretical offenses in project names. Let's please
>>> stick to *actual* feedback and not preemptively censor ourselves. If
>>> such feedback exists, fair enough, but I am also not aware of any such.
>>
>> I have asked off-list for someone I trust in the LGBTQ community who is
>> also an ASF member to weigh in on this but I am aware that this is a
>> concern. I just can't articulate how much of a concern it is. I will
>> work to get that better clarified for the podling.
>
> I am aware of various members of the LGBT+ community being offended by companies
> trying to *co-opt* the rainbow *symbol* specifically and explicitly in relation to a cheap
> and easy way to show "support" or a way to be "hip" or "cool"... heck, I'm offended by it as well.
>
> But that's not what we're talking about.
>
> And yeah, "just figure out a new name if there is any possible doubt" is
> a safe strategy, but it does edge us closer to a slippery slope.
>
> --
> Signed Jim (who recalls the debate long ago about the Apache "Jakarta" name)
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
Thanks Jim.
Hat tip to Jonny who joined the list just to make this contribution.
Jonny is a committer on the project and will participate a new initial committer to the project at Apache.
It’s his first involvement with Apache, please welcome him to the fray!
How about this:
I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the waters over there.
Meanwhile, if you have a strong objection, please let it be known here.
Cheers,
Antoine
> On Mar 1, 2019, at 4:47 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>
> either works for me.
>
>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 6:07 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>
>> I’ll change my vote.
>>
>> +1 to Obiwarn.
>>
>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:04 PM, jonathan.rhea@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> -1 to Bava
>>> How about Obiwarn. it is an anagram for rainbow and it sounds cool.
>>>
>>> On 2019/02/28 22:20:00, Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> +1 to Bava
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 2:11 PM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1 for Bava. Checking usage now.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/search?o=desc&q=bava
>>>>> No repo using the name or active. Most repos hobbyists.
>>>>>
>>>>> Google code:
>>>>> https://opensource.google.com/projects/search?q=bava
>>>>> No hits
>>>>>
>>>>> Sourceforge:
>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/directory/os:mac/?q=bava
>>>>> No hits
>>>>>
>>>>> Openhub:
>>>>> https://www.openhub.net/p?ref=homepage&query=bava
>>>>> 2 hits. But https://www.openhub.net/p/bava is empty with no code.
>>>>>
>>>>> Trademarks:
>>>>> https://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=bava
>>>>> No hits in computer science domain
>>>>>
>>>>> https://trademarks.justia.com/search?q=bava
>>>>> No hits in computer science. Mostly sparkling wine.
>>>>>
>>>>> USPTO:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4805%3Avniyw0.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=bava&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Query
>>>>> 9 records found, 5 live. None about computer science.
>>>>>
>>>>> Web presence:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=bava&oq=bava
>>>>> 12,100,000 results
>>>>>
>>>>> Mostly about Mario Bava. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Bava Created
>>>>> the horror “slasher” film.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bava also means god in Sri Lanka: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bava
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally, Bava is a conjugation of the verb to drool in French.
>>>>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bava
>>>>>
>>>>> StackOverflow:
>>>>> https://stackoverflow.com/search?q=bava
>>>>> 14 results because a user’s last name is Bava.
>>>>>
>>>>> LinkedIn: I found one company named Bava International Ltd. They
>>>>> specialize in apparel and fashion.
>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/bava-international-ltd/about/
>>>>>
>>>>> No matches in Oxford dictionary:
>>>>> https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/search?filter=dictionary&query=bava
>>>>>
>>>>> No matches on Spotify.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about Bava? Blockchain Java and no offensive meanings that I can
>>>>> find.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
either works for me.
> On Feb 28, 2019, at 6:07 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>
> I’ll change my vote.
>
> +1 to Obiwarn.
>
>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:04 PM, jonathan.rhea@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> -1 to Bava
>> How about Obiwarn. it is an anagram for rainbow and it sounds cool.
>>
>> On 2019/02/28 22:20:00, Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> +1 to Bava
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 2:11 PM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 for Bava. Checking usage now.
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/search?o=desc&q=bava
>>>> No repo using the name or active. Most repos hobbyists.
>>>>
>>>> Google code:
>>>> https://opensource.google.com/projects/search?q=bava
>>>> No hits
>>>>
>>>> Sourceforge:
>>>> https://sourceforge.net/directory/os:mac/?q=bava
>>>> No hits
>>>>
>>>> Openhub:
>>>> https://www.openhub.net/p?ref=homepage&query=bava
>>>> 2 hits. But https://www.openhub.net/p/bava is empty with no code.
>>>>
>>>> Trademarks:
>>>> https://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=bava
>>>> No hits in computer science domain
>>>>
>>>> https://trademarks.justia.com/search?q=bava
>>>> No hits in computer science. Mostly sparkling wine.
>>>>
>>>> USPTO:
>>>>
>>>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4805%3Avniyw0.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=bava&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Query
>>>> 9 records found, 5 live. None about computer science.
>>>>
>>>> Web presence:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=bava&oq=bava
>>>> 12,100,000 results
>>>>
>>>> Mostly about Mario Bava. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Bava Created
>>>> the horror “slasher” film.
>>>>
>>>> Bava also means god in Sri Lanka: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bava
>>>>
>>>> Finally, Bava is a conjugation of the verb to drool in French.
>>>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bava
>>>>
>>>> StackOverflow:
>>>> https://stackoverflow.com/search?q=bava
>>>> 14 results because a user’s last name is Bava.
>>>>
>>>> LinkedIn: I found one company named Bava International Ltd. They
>>>> specialize in apparel and fashion.
>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/bava-international-ltd/about/
>>>>
>>>> No matches in Oxford dictionary:
>>>> https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/search?filter=dictionary&query=bava
>>>>
>>>> No matches on Spotify.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Antoine
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> What about Bava? Blockchain Java and no offensive meanings that I can
>>>> find.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
Usage check:
https://github.com/search?o=desc&q=obiwarn
No repo using the name or active. One user named obiwarn.
Google code:
https://opensource.google.com/projects/search?q=obiwarn
No hits
Sourceforge:
https://sourceforge.net/directory/os:mac/?q=obiwarn
No hits
Openhub:
https://www.openhub.net/p?ref=homepage&query=obiwarn
No hits
Trademarks:
https://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=obiwarn
No hits
https://trademarks.justia.com/search?q=obiwarn
No hits
USPTO:
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4801%3Azgp26q.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=obiwarn&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Query
No records.
Web presence:
https://www.google.com/search?q=obiwarn&oq=obiwarn
27,000 results
No matches except for that github user.
StackOverflow:
https://stackoverflow.com/search?q=obiwarn
0 results
LinkedIn: No hits
No matches in Oxford dictionary:
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/search?filter=dictionary&query=obiwarn
No matches on Spotify.
> On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:07 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>
> I’ll change my vote.
>
> +1 to Obiwarn.
>
>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:04 PM, jonathan.rhea@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> -1 to Bava
>> How about Obiwarn. it is an anagram for rainbow and it sounds cool.
>>
>> On 2019/02/28 22:20:00, Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> +1 to Bava
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 2:11 PM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 for Bava. Checking usage now.
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/search?o=desc&q=bava
>>>> No repo using the name or active. Most repos hobbyists.
>>>>
>>>> Google code:
>>>> https://opensource.google.com/projects/search?q=bava
>>>> No hits
>>>>
>>>> Sourceforge:
>>>> https://sourceforge.net/directory/os:mac/?q=bava
>>>> No hits
>>>>
>>>> Openhub:
>>>> https://www.openhub.net/p?ref=homepage&query=bava
>>>> 2 hits. But https://www.openhub.net/p/bava is empty with no code.
>>>>
>>>> Trademarks:
>>>> https://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=bava
>>>> No hits in computer science domain
>>>>
>>>> https://trademarks.justia.com/search?q=bava
>>>> No hits in computer science. Mostly sparkling wine.
>>>>
>>>> USPTO:
>>>>
>>>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4805%3Avniyw0.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=bava&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Query
>>>> 9 records found, 5 live. None about computer science.
>>>>
>>>> Web presence:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=bava&oq=bava
>>>> 12,100,000 results
>>>>
>>>> Mostly about Mario Bava. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Bava Created
>>>> the horror “slasher” film.
>>>>
>>>> Bava also means god in Sri Lanka: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bava
>>>>
>>>> Finally, Bava is a conjugation of the verb to drool in French.
>>>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bava
>>>>
>>>> StackOverflow:
>>>> https://stackoverflow.com/search?q=bava
>>>> 14 results because a user’s last name is Bava.
>>>>
>>>> LinkedIn: I found one company named Bava International Ltd. They
>>>> specialize in apparel and fashion.
>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/bava-international-ltd/about/
>>>>
>>>> No matches in Oxford dictionary:
>>>> https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/search?filter=dictionary&query=bava
>>>>
>>>> No matches on Spotify.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Antoine
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> What about Bava? Blockchain Java and no offensive meanings that I can
>>>> find.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
I’ll change my vote.
+1 to Obiwarn.
> On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:04 PM, jonathan.rhea@gmail.com wrote:
>
> -1 to Bava
> How about Obiwarn. it is an anagram for rainbow and it sounds cool.
>
> On 2019/02/28 22:20:00, Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>> +1 to Bava
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 2:11 PM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 for Bava. Checking usage now.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/search?o=desc&q=bava
>>> No repo using the name or active. Most repos hobbyists.
>>>
>>> Google code:
>>> https://opensource.google.com/projects/search?q=bava
>>> No hits
>>>
>>> Sourceforge:
>>> https://sourceforge.net/directory/os:mac/?q=bava
>>> No hits
>>>
>>> Openhub:
>>> https://www.openhub.net/p?ref=homepage&query=bava
>>> 2 hits. But https://www.openhub.net/p/bava is empty with no code.
>>>
>>> Trademarks:
>>> https://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=bava
>>> No hits in computer science domain
>>>
>>> https://trademarks.justia.com/search?q=bava
>>> No hits in computer science. Mostly sparkling wine.
>>>
>>> USPTO:
>>>
>>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4805%3Avniyw0.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=bava&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Query
>>> 9 records found, 5 live. None about computer science.
>>>
>>> Web presence:
>>>
>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=bava&oq=bava
>>> 12,100,000 results
>>>
>>> Mostly about Mario Bava. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Bava Created
>>> the horror “slasher” film.
>>>
>>> Bava also means god in Sri Lanka: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bava
>>>
>>> Finally, Bava is a conjugation of the verb to drool in French.
>>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bava
>>>
>>> StackOverflow:
>>> https://stackoverflow.com/search?q=bava
>>> 14 results because a user’s last name is Bava.
>>>
>>> LinkedIn: I found one company named Bava International Ltd. They
>>> specialize in apparel and fashion.
>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/bava-international-ltd/about/
>>>
>>> No matches in Oxford dictionary:
>>> https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/search?filter=dictionary&query=bava
>>>
>>> No matches on Spotify.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Antoine
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What about Bava? Blockchain Java and no offensive meanings that I can
>>> find.
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by .
-1 to Bava
How about Obiwarn. it is an anagram for rainbow and it sounds cool.
On 2019/02/28 22:20:00, Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1 to Bava
>
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 2:11 PM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>
> > +1 for Bava. Checking usage now.
> >
> > https://github.com/search?o=desc&q=bava
> > No repo using the name or active. Most repos hobbyists.
> >
> > Google code:
> > https://opensource.google.com/projects/search?q=bava
> > No hits
> >
> > Sourceforge:
> > https://sourceforge.net/directory/os:mac/?q=bava
> > No hits
> >
> > Openhub:
> > https://www.openhub.net/p?ref=homepage&query=bava
> > 2 hits. But https://www.openhub.net/p/bava is empty with no code.
> >
> > Trademarks:
> > https://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=bava
> > No hits in computer science domain
> >
> > https://trademarks.justia.com/search?q=bava
> > No hits in computer science. Mostly sparkling wine.
> >
> > USPTO:
> >
> > http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4805%3Avniyw0.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=bava&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Query
> > 9 records found, 5 live. None about computer science.
> >
> > Web presence:
> >
> > https://www.google.com/search?q=bava&oq=bava
> > 12,100,000 results
> >
> > Mostly about Mario Bava. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Bava Created
> > the horror “slasher” film.
> >
> > Bava also means god in Sri Lanka: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bava
> >
> > Finally, Bava is a conjugation of the verb to drool in French.
> > https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bava
> >
> > StackOverflow:
> > https://stackoverflow.com/search?q=bava
> > 14 results because a user’s last name is Bava.
> >
> > LinkedIn: I found one company named Bava International Ltd. They
> > specialize in apparel and fashion.
> > https://www.linkedin.com/company/bava-international-ltd/about/
> >
> > No matches in Oxford dictionary:
> > https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/search?filter=dictionary&query=bava
> >
> > No matches on Spotify.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Antoine
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 28, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > What about Bava? Blockchain Java and no offensive meanings that I can
> > find.
> >
> >
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org>.
+1 to Bava
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 2:11 PM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
> +1 for Bava. Checking usage now.
>
> https://github.com/search?o=desc&q=bava
> No repo using the name or active. Most repos hobbyists.
>
> Google code:
> https://opensource.google.com/projects/search?q=bava
> No hits
>
> Sourceforge:
> https://sourceforge.net/directory/os:mac/?q=bava
> No hits
>
> Openhub:
> https://www.openhub.net/p?ref=homepage&query=bava
> 2 hits. But https://www.openhub.net/p/bava is empty with no code.
>
> Trademarks:
> https://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=bava
> No hits in computer science domain
>
> https://trademarks.justia.com/search?q=bava
> No hits in computer science. Mostly sparkling wine.
>
> USPTO:
>
> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4805%3Avniyw0.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=bava&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Query
> 9 records found, 5 live. None about computer science.
>
> Web presence:
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=bava&oq=bava
> 12,100,000 results
>
> Mostly about Mario Bava. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Bava Created
> the horror “slasher” film.
>
> Bava also means god in Sri Lanka: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bava
>
> Finally, Bava is a conjugation of the verb to drool in French.
> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bava
>
> StackOverflow:
> https://stackoverflow.com/search?q=bava
> 14 results because a user’s last name is Bava.
>
> LinkedIn: I found one company named Bava International Ltd. They
> specialize in apparel and fashion.
> https://www.linkedin.com/company/bava-international-ltd/about/
>
> No matches in Oxford dictionary:
> https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/search?filter=dictionary&query=bava
>
> No matches on Spotify.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Antoine
>
>
> > On Feb 28, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
> >
> > What about Bava? Blockchain Java and no offensive meanings that I can
> find.
>
>
Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
+1 for Bava. Checking usage now.
https://github.com/search?o=desc&q=bava
No repo using the name or active. Most repos hobbyists.
Google code:
https://opensource.google.com/projects/search?q=bava
No hits
Sourceforge:
https://sourceforge.net/directory/os:mac/?q=bava
No hits
Openhub:
https://www.openhub.net/p?ref=homepage&query=bava
2 hits. But https://www.openhub.net/p/bava is empty with no code.
Trademarks:
https://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=bava
No hits in computer science domain
https://trademarks.justia.com/search?q=bava
No hits in computer science. Mostly sparkling wine.
USPTO:
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4805%3Avniyw0.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=bava&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Query
9 records found, 5 live. None about computer science.
Web presence:
https://www.google.com/search?q=bava&oq=bava
12,100,000 results
Mostly about Mario Bava. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Bava Created the horror “slasher” film.
Bava also means god in Sri Lanka: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bava
Finally, Bava is a conjugation of the verb to drool in French. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bava
StackOverflow:
https://stackoverflow.com/search?q=bava
14 results because a user’s last name is Bava.
LinkedIn: I found one company named Bava International Ltd. They specialize in apparel and fashion.
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bava-international-ltd/about/
No matches in Oxford dictionary:
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/search?filter=dictionary&query=bava
No matches on Spotify.
Cheers,
Antoine
> On Feb 28, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>
> What about Bava? Blockchain Java and no offensive meanings that I can find.
Re: USPTO links (was: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name)
Posted by "Kevin A. McGrail" <km...@apache.org>.
On 3/19/2019 8:32 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote:
> Kevin A. McGrail wrote on 2/28/19 7:58 PM:
> ...snip...
>> Note: From the USPTO TESS: "*BAVA*" is an Italian word that means
>> "slobber" or "drool". Not sure if this will permalink:
>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4804:rx7o71.2.7
> No, most links from the USPTO website don't work, sadly. I've updated
> the trademark docs to note the only reliable way to share a link there:
>
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming#regsearch
>
> Click through to a specific trademark page, then click the TSDR blue
> button, which provides a stable URL, like this for sparkling wine:
>
> https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87442162&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
Thanks. Next time I'll do a PDF to at least try and capture the data.
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USPTO links (was: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name)
Posted by Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org>.
Kevin A. McGrail wrote on 2/28/19 7:58 PM:
...snip...
> Note: From the USPTO TESS: "*BAVA*" is an Italian word that means
> "slobber" or "drool". Not sure if this will permalink:
> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4804:rx7o71.2.7
No, most links from the USPTO website don't work, sadly. I've updated
the trademark docs to note the only reliable way to share a link there:
https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming#regsearch
Click through to a specific trademark page, then click the TSDR blue
button, which provides a stable URL, like this for sparkling wine:
https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87442162&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by "Kevin A. McGrail" <km...@apache.org>.
On 2/28/2019 4:37 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> What about Bava? Blockchain Java and no offensive meanings that I can find.
>
No trademark concerns I see or commercial / OSS uses that conflict that
I see.
Note: From the USPTO TESS: "*BAVA*" is an Italian word that means
"slobber" or "drool". Not sure if this will permalink:
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4804:rx7o71.2.7
So I'm totally +1 for Apache Slobber :-)
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
What about Bava? Blockchain Java and no offensive meanings that I can find.
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by "Kevin A. McGrail" <km...@apache.org>.
On 2/28/2019 4:28 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> I am aware of various members of the LGBT+ community being offended by companies
> trying to *co-opt* the rainbow *symbol* specifically and explicitly in relation to a cheap
> and easy way to show "support" or a way to be "hip" or "cool"... heck, I'm offended by it as well.
>
> But that's not what we're talking about.
A) I don't speak for the LGBTQ community and hence I can only say it's a
concern and not how much of a concern it is. Just that I'm aware of the
issue in general.
B) I think the Apache Rainbow project would inevitably have a Rainbow in
it's logo which is where I see a possible concern but again see A)
As I mentioned, I've asked if an ASF member with a better grasp of the
potential issue to weigh in. Not much else I can say about the issue.
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
> On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:26 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 2/28/2019 3:24 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>>>
>>> It also seems to imply that usage of the name rainbow would somehow
>>> be offensive or insensitive. Again, I'm not sure how. Nor am I aware
>>> of situations where the LGBT+ community "has expressed concerns"
>>> about usage *of the name* Rainbow.
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Anyone could hypothetically be offended by anything, I could list a
>> large number of theoretical offenses in project names. Let's please
>> stick to *actual* feedback and not preemptively censor ourselves. If
>> such feedback exists, fair enough, but I am also not aware of any such.
>
> I have asked off-list for someone I trust in the LGBTQ community who is
> also an ASF member to weigh in on this but I am aware that this is a
> concern. I just can't articulate how much of a concern it is. I will
> work to get that better clarified for the podling.
I am aware of various members of the LGBT+ community being offended by companies
trying to *co-opt* the rainbow *symbol* specifically and explicitly in relation to a cheap
and easy way to show "support" or a way to be "hip" or "cool"... heck, I'm offended by it as well.
But that's not what we're talking about.
And yeah, "just figure out a new name if there is any possible doubt" is
a safe strategy, but it does edge us closer to a slippery slope.
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 12:26 PM Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
wrote:
> On 2/28/2019 3:24 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> >>
> >> It also seems to imply that usage of the name rainbow would somehow
> >> be offensive or insensitive. Again, I'm not sure how. Nor am I aware
> >> of situations where the LGBT+ community "has expressed concerns"
> >> about usage *of the name* Rainbow.
> >
> > +1
> >
> > Anyone could hypothetically be offended by anything, I could list a
> > large number of theoretical offenses in project names. Let's please
> > stick to *actual* feedback and not preemptively censor ourselves. If
> > such feedback exists, fair enough, but I am also not aware of any such.
>
> I have asked off-list for someone I trust in the LGBTQ community who is
> also an ASF member to weigh in on this but I am aware that this is a
> concern. I just can't articulate how much of a concern it is. I will
> work to get that better clarified for the podling.
>
But this is just a random name out of many choices. I don't think it is
even worth this amount of discussion. If there's any arbitrary, possibly
spurious, reason to avoid it, there's plenty of other names. Regardless of
this issue, I wouldn't want a name that causes people to talk about
anything other than the project.
Kenn
>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by "Kevin A. McGrail" <km...@apache.org>.
On 2/28/2019 3:24 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>>
>> It also seems to imply that usage of the name rainbow would somehow
>> be offensive or insensitive. Again, I'm not sure how. Nor am I aware
>> of situations where the LGBT+ community "has expressed concerns"
>> about usage *of the name* Rainbow.
>
> +1
>
> Anyone could hypothetically be offended by anything, I could list a
> large number of theoretical offenses in project names. Let's please
> stick to *actual* feedback and not preemptively censor ourselves. If
> such feedback exists, fair enough, but I am also not aware of any such.
I have asked off-list for someone I trust in the LGBTQ community who is
also an ASF member to weigh in on this but I am aware that this is a
concern. I just can't articulate how much of a concern it is. I will
work to get that better clarified for the podling.
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org>.
On 2/28/19 8:45 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> Hmm... in less than 20mins the request for Rainbow was shut down...
>
> I'm not sure how I feel about this... The justification seems a real stretch to me:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/PODLINGNAMESEARCH/issues/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-164?filter=allissues
>
> It also seems to imply that usage of the name rainbow would somehow be offensive or insensitive. Again, I'm not sure how. Nor am I aware of situations where the LGBT+ community "has expressed concerns" about usage *of the name* Rainbow.
+1
Anyone could hypothetically be offended by anything, I could list a
large number of theoretical offenses in project names. Let's please
stick to *actual* feedback and not preemptively censor ourselves. If
such feedback exists, fair enough, but I am also not aware of any such.
>
> But, I guess another name needs to be found...
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
Hmm... in less than 20mins the request for Rainbow was shut down...
I'm not sure how I feel about this... The justification seems a real stretch to me:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/PODLINGNAMESEARCH/issues/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-164?filter=allissues
It also seems to imply that usage of the name rainbow would somehow be offensive or insensitive. Again, I'm not sure how. Nor am I aware of situations where the LGBT+ community "has expressed concerns" about usage *of the name* Rainbow.
But, I guess another name needs to be found...
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
Thanks Kevin, your help and guidance are appreciated.
> On Feb 28, 2019, at 11:02 AM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> A rose by any other name would still be as sweet so I am +1 on the
> proposal. Just trying to help with the naming issue and to save the
> project and infra grief of it needs to change.
>
> But I am here to support and feel bad to throw any gunk in your sprockets.
>
> Best, KAM
>
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019, 13:59 Antoine Toulme <antoine@toulme.name wrote:
>
>> For context Jim is the champion of the Cava proposal.
>>
>> The point of rough consensus is to bring about strong objections and move
>> past non-votes.
>> I believe we are at that point, and I will move forward to consider this
>> thread closed with the name Rainbow.
>> I will open a pooling namecheck and move to the next step there.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Antoine
>>
>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 7:41 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, I have no doubt that the proposal is going to pass, so we might as
>> well progress on w/ that assumption. ;)
>>>
>>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 10:09 AM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Jim, I don't read https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html to
>> lead
>>>> me to believe we are at that stage yet. I think we want to have
>>>> discussions about a provisional name first. Specifically, "A podling
>>>> needs to discover whether a name is suitable."
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> KAM
>>>>
>>>> On 2/28/2019 9:42 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>>>> We should simply file a standard Jira request for a podling namecheck.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 9:36 AM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not an objection per se but two comments:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1 - Rainbow is associated with LGBTQ communities and there have been
>>>>>> concerns about it being co-opted for other uses. For example,
>>>>>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/02/brands-rainbow-queasy-but-bring-lgbt-lives-into-mainstream-skittles-gay
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2 - I cannot speak for the LGBTQ community and I support them so I
>> would
>>>>>> say rainbow would be something I would avoid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the business world I often recommend people consider made up
>> words.
>>>>>> Less chance of conflictions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> KAM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/28/2019 3:28 AM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>>>>>>> Hey folks, just checking in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to establish rough consensus. If you’re still
>> following, we have narrowed down the list to rainbow, sprocket and winch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have one vote for rainbow, and one for winch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When establishing rough consensus, it’s a good idea to push
>> proposals to hear objections.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At this time, I’d like to push for the name rainbow. Any objections?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I ran searches for rainbow, sprocket and winch and didn’t find OSS
>> projects with those names.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I personally would like to vouch for Rainbow. It does fit the
>> whimsical requirement of Apache project names.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2019 6:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines, which is
>> clearly a
>>>>>>>>>> really different field of use.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty in
>> presuming it
>>>>>>>>>> described a historical language. If it is an active open source
>> project,
>>>>>>>>>> let's not collide.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a quick search,
>> but sounds
>>>>>>>>>> like someone should check my work...
>>>>>>>>> Re: JAL, the airline is just not an issue. The programming
>> language I
>>>>>>>>> think is as there are books on Amazon less than 6 years old on PAL
>>>>>>>>> (
>> https://www.amazon.com/PIC-Microcontroller-Programming-captivating-lessons/dp/190792017X)
>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't think it's legacy just perhaps mature and things like
>> Raspberry
>>>>>>>>> Pi's overtaking the field.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as a trademark,
>> etc.
>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS spaces
>> except a
>>>>>>>>> company called winch gate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ might help
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> KAM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by "Kevin A. McGrail" <km...@apache.org>.
A rose by any other name would still be as sweet so I am +1 on the
proposal. Just trying to help with the naming issue and to save the
project and infra grief of it needs to change.
But I am here to support and feel bad to throw any gunk in your sprockets.
Best, KAM
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019, 13:59 Antoine Toulme <antoine@toulme.name wrote:
> For context Jim is the champion of the Cava proposal.
>
> The point of rough consensus is to bring about strong objections and move
> past non-votes.
> I believe we are at that point, and I will move forward to consider this
> thread closed with the name Rainbow.
> I will open a pooling namecheck and move to the next step there.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Antoine
>
> > On Feb 28, 2019, at 7:41 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well, I have no doubt that the proposal is going to pass, so we might as
> well progress on w/ that assumption. ;)
> >
> >> On Feb 28, 2019, at 10:09 AM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Jim, I don't read https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html to
> lead
> >> me to believe we are at that stage yet. I think we want to have
> >> discussions about a provisional name first. Specifically, "A podling
> >> needs to discover whether a name is suitable."
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> KAM
> >>
> >> On 2/28/2019 9:42 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> >>> We should simply file a standard Jira request for a podling namecheck.
> >>>
> >>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 9:36 AM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Not an objection per se but two comments:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1 - Rainbow is associated with LGBTQ communities and there have been
> >>>> concerns about it being co-opted for other uses. For example,
> >>>>
> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/02/brands-rainbow-queasy-but-bring-lgbt-lives-into-mainstream-skittles-gay
> >>>>
> >>>> 2 - I cannot speak for the LGBTQ community and I support them so I
> would
> >>>> say rainbow would be something I would avoid.
> >>>>
> >>>> In the business world I often recommend people consider made up
> words.
> >>>> Less chance of conflictions.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> KAM
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2/28/2019 3:28 AM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
> >>>>> Hey folks, just checking in.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I would like to establish rough consensus. If you’re still
> following, we have narrowed down the list to rainbow, sprocket and winch.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We have one vote for rainbow, and one for winch.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> When establishing rough consensus, it’s a good idea to push
> proposals to hear objections.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At this time, I’d like to push for the name rainbow. Any objections?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I ran searches for rainbow, sprocket and winch and didn’t find OSS
> projects with those names.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I personally would like to vouch for Rainbow. It does fit the
> whimsical requirement of Apache project names.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 2/26/2019 6:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
> >>>>>>>> I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines, which is
> clearly a
> >>>>>>>> really different field of use.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty in
> presuming it
> >>>>>>>> described a historical language. If it is an active open source
> project,
> >>>>>>>> let's not collide.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a quick search,
> but sounds
> >>>>>>>> like someone should check my work...
> >>>>>>> Re: JAL, the airline is just not an issue. The programming
> language I
> >>>>>>> think is as there are books on Amazon less than 6 years old on PAL
> >>>>>>> (
> https://www.amazon.com/PIC-Microcontroller-Programming-captivating-lessons/dp/190792017X)
>
> >>>>>>> I don't think it's legacy just perhaps mature and things like
> Raspberry
> >>>>>>> Pi's overtaking the field.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as a trademark,
> etc.
> >>>>>>> Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS spaces
> except a
> >>>>>>> company called winch gate.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ might help
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> KAM
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
For context Jim is the champion of the Cava proposal.
The point of rough consensus is to bring about strong objections and move past non-votes.
I believe we are at that point, and I will move forward to consider this thread closed with the name Rainbow.
I will open a pooling namecheck and move to the next step there.
Thanks,
Antoine
> On Feb 28, 2019, at 7:41 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>
> Well, I have no doubt that the proposal is going to pass, so we might as well progress on w/ that assumption. ;)
>
>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 10:09 AM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Jim, I don't read https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html to lead
>> me to believe we are at that stage yet. I think we want to have
>> discussions about a provisional name first. Specifically, "A podling
>> needs to discover whether a name is suitable."
>>
>> Regards,
>> KAM
>>
>> On 2/28/2019 9:42 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>> We should simply file a standard Jira request for a podling namecheck.
>>>
>>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 9:36 AM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Not an objection per se but two comments:
>>>>
>>>> 1 - Rainbow is associated with LGBTQ communities and there have been
>>>> concerns about it being co-opted for other uses. For example,
>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/02/brands-rainbow-queasy-but-bring-lgbt-lives-into-mainstream-skittles-gay
>>>>
>>>> 2 - I cannot speak for the LGBTQ community and I support them so I would
>>>> say rainbow would be something I would avoid.
>>>>
>>>> In the business world I often recommend people consider made up words.
>>>> Less chance of conflictions.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> KAM
>>>>
>>>> On 2/28/2019 3:28 AM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>>>>> Hey folks, just checking in.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to establish rough consensus. If you’re still following, we have narrowed down the list to rainbow, sprocket and winch.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have one vote for rainbow, and one for winch.
>>>>>
>>>>> When establishing rough consensus, it’s a good idea to push proposals to hear objections.
>>>>>
>>>>> At this time, I’d like to push for the name rainbow. Any objections?
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I ran searches for rainbow, sprocket and winch and didn’t find OSS projects with those names.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I personally would like to vouch for Rainbow. It does fit the whimsical requirement of Apache project names.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/26/2019 6:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
>>>>>>>> I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines, which is clearly a
>>>>>>>> really different field of use.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty in presuming it
>>>>>>>> described a historical language. If it is an active open source project,
>>>>>>>> let's not collide.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a quick search, but sounds
>>>>>>>> like someone should check my work...
>>>>>>> Re: JAL, the airline is just not an issue. The programming language I
>>>>>>> think is as there are books on Amazon less than 6 years old on PAL
>>>>>>> (https://www.amazon.com/PIC-Microcontroller-Programming-captivating-lessons/dp/190792017X)
>>>>>>> I don't think it's legacy just perhaps mature and things like Raspberry
>>>>>>> Pi's overtaking the field.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as a trademark, etc.
>>>>>>> Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS spaces except a
>>>>>>> company called winch gate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ might help
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> KAM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
Well, I have no doubt that the proposal is going to pass, so we might as well progress on w/ that assumption. ;)
> On Feb 28, 2019, at 10:09 AM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Jim, I don't read https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html to lead
> me to believe we are at that stage yet. I think we want to have
> discussions about a provisional name first. Specifically, "A podling
> needs to discover whether a name is suitable."
>
> Regards,
> KAM
>
> On 2/28/2019 9:42 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> We should simply file a standard Jira request for a podling namecheck.
>>
>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 9:36 AM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not an objection per se but two comments:
>>>
>>> 1 - Rainbow is associated with LGBTQ communities and there have been
>>> concerns about it being co-opted for other uses. For example,
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/02/brands-rainbow-queasy-but-bring-lgbt-lives-into-mainstream-skittles-gay
>>>
>>> 2 - I cannot speak for the LGBTQ community and I support them so I would
>>> say rainbow would be something I would avoid.
>>>
>>> In the business world I often recommend people consider made up words.
>>> Less chance of conflictions.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> KAM
>>>
>>> On 2/28/2019 3:28 AM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>>>> Hey folks, just checking in.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to establish rough consensus. If you’re still following, we have narrowed down the list to rainbow, sprocket and winch.
>>>>
>>>> We have one vote for rainbow, and one for winch.
>>>>
>>>> When establishing rough consensus, it’s a good idea to push proposals to hear objections.
>>>>
>>>> At this time, I’d like to push for the name rainbow. Any objections?
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I ran searches for rainbow, sprocket and winch and didn’t find OSS projects with those names.
>>>>>
>>>>> I personally would like to vouch for Rainbow. It does fit the whimsical requirement of Apache project names.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/26/2019 6:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
>>>>>>> I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines, which is clearly a
>>>>>>> really different field of use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty in presuming it
>>>>>>> described a historical language. If it is an active open source project,
>>>>>>> let's not collide.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a quick search, but sounds
>>>>>>> like someone should check my work...
>>>>>> Re: JAL, the airline is just not an issue. The programming language I
>>>>>> think is as there are books on Amazon less than 6 years old on PAL
>>>>>> (https://www.amazon.com/PIC-Microcontroller-Programming-captivating-lessons/dp/190792017X)
>>>>>> I don't think it's legacy just perhaps mature and things like Raspberry
>>>>>> Pi's overtaking the field.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as a trademark, etc.
>>>>>> Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS spaces except a
>>>>>> company called winch gate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ might help
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> KAM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by "Kevin A. McGrail" <km...@apache.org>.
Jim, I don't read https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html to lead
me to believe we are at that stage yet. I think we want to have
discussions about a provisional name first. Specifically, "A podling
needs to discover whether a name is suitable."
Regards,
KAM
On 2/28/2019 9:42 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> We should simply file a standard Jira request for a podling namecheck.
>
>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 9:36 AM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Not an objection per se but two comments:
>>
>> 1 - Rainbow is associated with LGBTQ communities and there have been
>> concerns about it being co-opted for other uses. For example,
>> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/02/brands-rainbow-queasy-but-bring-lgbt-lives-into-mainstream-skittles-gay
>>
>> 2 - I cannot speak for the LGBTQ community and I support them so I would
>> say rainbow would be something I would avoid.
>>
>> In the business world I often recommend people consider made up words.
>> Less chance of conflictions.
>>
>> Regards,
>> KAM
>>
>> On 2/28/2019 3:28 AM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>>> Hey folks, just checking in.
>>>
>>> I would like to establish rough consensus. If you’re still following, we have narrowed down the list to rainbow, sprocket and winch.
>>>
>>> We have one vote for rainbow, and one for winch.
>>>
>>> When establishing rough consensus, it’s a good idea to push proposals to hear objections.
>>>
>>> At this time, I’d like to push for the name rainbow. Any objections?
>>>
>>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I ran searches for rainbow, sprocket and winch and didn’t find OSS projects with those names.
>>>>
>>>> I personally would like to vouch for Rainbow. It does fit the whimsical requirement of Apache project names.
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/26/2019 6:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
>>>>>> I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines, which is clearly a
>>>>>> really different field of use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty in presuming it
>>>>>> described a historical language. If it is an active open source project,
>>>>>> let's not collide.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a quick search, but sounds
>>>>>> like someone should check my work...
>>>>> Re: JAL, the airline is just not an issue. The programming language I
>>>>> think is as there are books on Amazon less than 6 years old on PAL
>>>>> (https://www.amazon.com/PIC-Microcontroller-Programming-captivating-lessons/dp/190792017X)
>>>>> I don't think it's legacy just perhaps mature and things like Raspberry
>>>>> Pi's overtaking the field.
>>>>>
>>>>> Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as a trademark, etc.
>>>>> Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS spaces except a
>>>>> company called winch gate.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ might help
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> KAM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
We should simply file a standard Jira request for a podling namecheck.
> On Feb 28, 2019, at 9:36 AM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Not an objection per se but two comments:
>
> 1 - Rainbow is associated with LGBTQ communities and there have been
> concerns about it being co-opted for other uses. For example,
> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/02/brands-rainbow-queasy-but-bring-lgbt-lives-into-mainstream-skittles-gay
>
> 2 - I cannot speak for the LGBTQ community and I support them so I would
> say rainbow would be something I would avoid.
>
> In the business world I often recommend people consider made up words.
> Less chance of conflictions.
>
> Regards,
> KAM
>
> On 2/28/2019 3:28 AM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>> Hey folks, just checking in.
>>
>> I would like to establish rough consensus. If you’re still following, we have narrowed down the list to rainbow, sprocket and winch.
>>
>> We have one vote for rainbow, and one for winch.
>>
>> When establishing rough consensus, it’s a good idea to push proposals to hear objections.
>>
>> At this time, I’d like to push for the name rainbow. Any objections?
>>
>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>
>>> I ran searches for rainbow, sprocket and winch and didn’t find OSS projects with those names.
>>>
>>> I personally would like to vouch for Rainbow. It does fit the whimsical requirement of Apache project names.
>>>
>>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 2/26/2019 6:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
>>>>> I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines, which is clearly a
>>>>> really different field of use.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty in presuming it
>>>>> described a historical language. If it is an active open source project,
>>>>> let's not collide.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a quick search, but sounds
>>>>> like someone should check my work...
>>>> Re: JAL, the airline is just not an issue. The programming language I
>>>> think is as there are books on Amazon less than 6 years old on PAL
>>>> (https://www.amazon.com/PIC-Microcontroller-Programming-captivating-lessons/dp/190792017X)
>>>> I don't think it's legacy just perhaps mature and things like Raspberry
>>>> Pi's overtaking the field.
>>>>
>>>> Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as a trademark, etc.
>>>> Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS spaces except a
>>>> company called winch gate.
>>>>
>>>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ might help
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> KAM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by "Kevin A. McGrail" <km...@apache.org>.
Not an objection per se but two comments:
1 - Rainbow is associated with LGBTQ communities and there have been
concerns about it being co-opted for other uses. For example,
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/02/brands-rainbow-queasy-but-bring-lgbt-lives-into-mainstream-skittles-gay
2 - I cannot speak for the LGBTQ community and I support them so I would
say rainbow would be something I would avoid.
In the business world I often recommend people consider made up words.
Less chance of conflictions.
Regards,
KAM
On 2/28/2019 3:28 AM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
> Hey folks, just checking in.
>
> I would like to establish rough consensus. If you’re still following, we have narrowed down the list to rainbow, sprocket and winch.
>
> We have one vote for rainbow, and one for winch.
>
> When establishing rough consensus, it’s a good idea to push proposals to hear objections.
>
> At this time, I’d like to push for the name rainbow. Any objections?
>
>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>
>> I ran searches for rainbow, sprocket and winch and didn’t find OSS projects with those names.
>>
>> I personally would like to vouch for Rainbow. It does fit the whimsical requirement of Apache project names.
>>
>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2/26/2019 6:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
>>>> I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines, which is clearly a
>>>> really different field of use.
>>>>
>>>> I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty in presuming it
>>>> described a historical language. If it is an active open source project,
>>>> let's not collide.
>>>>
>>>> So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a quick search, but sounds
>>>> like someone should check my work...
>>> Re: JAL, the airline is just not an issue. The programming language I
>>> think is as there are books on Amazon less than 6 years old on PAL
>>> (https://www.amazon.com/PIC-Microcontroller-Programming-captivating-lessons/dp/190792017X)
>>> I don't think it's legacy just perhaps mature and things like Raspberry
>>> Pi's overtaking the field.
>>>
>>> Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as a trademark, etc.
>>> Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS spaces except a
>>> company called winch gate.
>>>
>>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ might help
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> KAM
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
Hey folks, just checking in.
I would like to establish rough consensus. If you’re still following, we have narrowed down the list to rainbow, sprocket and winch.
We have one vote for rainbow, and one for winch.
When establishing rough consensus, it’s a good idea to push proposals to hear objections.
At this time, I’d like to push for the name rainbow. Any objections?
> On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>
> I ran searches for rainbow, sprocket and winch and didn’t find OSS projects with those names.
>
> I personally would like to vouch for Rainbow. It does fit the whimsical requirement of Apache project names.
>
>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 2/26/2019 6:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
>>> I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines, which is clearly a
>>> really different field of use.
>>>
>>> I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty in presuming it
>>> described a historical language. If it is an active open source project,
>>> let's not collide.
>>>
>>> So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a quick search, but sounds
>>> like someone should check my work...
>>
>> Re: JAL, the airline is just not an issue. The programming language I
>> think is as there are books on Amazon less than 6 years old on PAL
>> (https://www.amazon.com/PIC-Microcontroller-Programming-captivating-lessons/dp/190792017X)
>> I don't think it's legacy just perhaps mature and things like Raspberry
>> Pi's overtaking the field.
>>
>> Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as a trademark, etc.
>> Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS spaces except a
>> company called winch gate.
>>
>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ might help
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> KAM
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
I ran searches for rainbow, sprocket and winch and didn’t find OSS projects with those names.
I personally would like to vouch for Rainbow. It does fit the whimsical requirement of Apache project names.
> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 2/26/2019 6:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
>> I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines, which is clearly a
>> really different field of use.
>>
>> I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty in presuming it
>> described a historical language. If it is an active open source project,
>> let's not collide.
>>
>> So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a quick search, but sounds
>> like someone should check my work...
>
> Re: JAL, the airline is just not an issue. The programming language I
> think is as there are books on Amazon less than 6 years old on PAL
> (https://www.amazon.com/PIC-Microcontroller-Programming-captivating-lessons/dp/190792017X)
> I don't think it's legacy just perhaps mature and things like Raspberry
> Pi's overtaking the field.
>
> Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as a trademark, etc.
> Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS spaces except a
> company called winch gate.
>
> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ might help
>
> Regards,
>
> KAM
>
>
>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
Kevin A. McGrail wrote on Tue, 26 Feb 2019 23:57 +00:00:
> Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as a trademark, etc.
> Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS spaces except a
> company called winch gate.
There's the SIGWINCH signal in terminal applications.
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by "Kevin A. McGrail" <km...@apache.org>.
On 2/26/2019 6:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
> I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines, which is clearly a
> really different field of use.
>
> I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty in presuming it
> described a historical language. If it is an active open source project,
> let's not collide.
>
> So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a quick search, but sounds
> like someone should check my work...
Re: JAL, the airline is just not an issue. The programming language I
think is as there are books on Amazon less than 6 years old on PAL
(https://www.amazon.com/PIC-Microcontroller-Programming-captivating-lessons/dp/190792017X)
I don't think it's legacy just perhaps mature and things like Raspberry
Pi's overtaking the field.
Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as a trademark, etc.
Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS spaces except a
company called winch gate.
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ might help
Regards,
KAM
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org>.
I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines, which is clearly a
really different field of use.
I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty in presuming it
described a historical language. If it is an active open source project,
let's not collide.
So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a quick search, but sounds
like someone should check my work...
Kenn
On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 3:14 PM Byung-Gon Chun <bg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> JAL is also a trademark of Japan Air Lines.
>
> Best,
> Gon
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 8:08 AM Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi -
> >
> > JAL is built for programming PIC micro controllers and I think that the
> > field of use may be different enough. But the question is one for the VP,
> > Brand.
> >
> > http://justanotherlanguage.org
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> > > On Feb 26, 2019, at 2:33 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Antoine,
> > >
> > > I am happy to help and vote but I want to make sure I'm right before we
> > get
> > > to that stage.
> > >
> > > I don't know if branding or legal (or press) would oppose the name Jal.
> > My
> > > $0.02 is that if this were a corporate entity, the likelihood for
> > confusion
> > > would be very high with two OSS projects named Jal. And while JAL, the
> > > programming language, might not have a Trademark, it would be rude IMO
> > to a
> > > long standing project to just hijack the name.
> > >
> > > If they have trademarks, it would be almost certainly a torpedo to the
> > > name. My assumption is that the name suitability is rooted in finding
> a
> > > trademarkable, unique, defendable, and brandable name.
> > >
> > > With Jal being an existing OSS project (
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) &
> > > http://justanotherlanguage.org/), I'm certainly not excited by using
> > that
> > > name. For now, consider me a -0.5 and I welcome the opportunity to be
> > > convinced differently.
> > >
> > > Sorry, I'm really working hard to make the incubator process positive
> so
> > my
> > > apologies again for a last minute monkey wrench. I just happened to
> > catch
> > > the subject on the thread and I know some PIC programming in JAL and so
> > > here we are...
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > KAM
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 5:20 PM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I am aware of those uses, but they don’t seem to cross with the domain
> > of
> > >> the project.
> > >> The suitable name search guide [0] expresses a lot of subtlety about
> > name
> > >> uniqueness which gave me this interpretation.
> > >>
> > >> Nevertheless, let’s then reopen the thread:
> > >>
> > >> Would you like to vote for another name in the list proposed?
> > >>
> > >> [0]:
> > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#what_makes_a_name_good
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Antoine,
> > >>>
> > >>> I hate to throw a wrench in the works but there has been so much
> > traffic
> > >>> here, I missed that thread. Jal (just another language) is a
> > >>> programming language:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) &
> > >>> http://justanotherlanguage.org/
> > >>>
> > >>> I don't think it's going to be appropriate for us to step on another
> > >>> open source project name.
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>> KAM
> > >>>
> > >>> On 2/26/2019 5:02 PM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
> > >>>> Thanks all.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We have a clear winner with “Jal”, with 4 +1 votes and no votes for
> > >> other names.
> > >>>> Thank you for your participation!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I will make mention of the result of this consultation on the
> > proposal.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We are now set to open the podling.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Antoine
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 1:38 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb@nanthrax.net
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> +1 for Jal
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Regards
> > >>>>> JB
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 22/02/2019 23:47, Antoine Toulme wrote:
> > >>>>>> Hi all,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the
> incubator
> > >> [0].
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a
> better
> > >> name for the project [1].
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Here are the names:
> > >>>>>> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line
> with
> > >> the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
> > >>>>>> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires
> > >> (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
> > >>>>>> - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a
> > >> chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in
> > the
> > >> chain theme as well)
> > >>>>>> - “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote
> > >> from [3]: "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early
> morning
> > >> covered with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of
> > all
> > >> the other dew drops.
> > >>>>>> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other
> > dew
> > >> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
> > >> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please
> > >> feel free to justify your choice.
> > >>>>>> Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence
> of
> > a
> > >> strong contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick
> a
> > >> name.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until
> Tuesday
> > >> afternoon PST time.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Antoine
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> [0]:
> > >>
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> > >>>>>> [1]:
> > >>
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8d8014f53f140a3ccdd517c3c303de1d45cc04afdaee5961ac43e7fc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> > >>>>>> [2]:
> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
> > >>>>>> [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
> > >>>>>>
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> > >>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
> > >>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> > >>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> > >>>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Byung-Gon Chun <bg...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
JAL is also a trademark of Japan Air Lines.
Best,
Gon
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 8:08 AM Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi -
>
> JAL is built for programming PIC micro controllers and I think that the
> field of use may be different enough. But the question is one for the VP,
> Brand.
>
> http://justanotherlanguage.org
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> > On Feb 26, 2019, at 2:33 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Antoine,
> >
> > I am happy to help and vote but I want to make sure I'm right before we
> get
> > to that stage.
> >
> > I don't know if branding or legal (or press) would oppose the name Jal.
> My
> > $0.02 is that if this were a corporate entity, the likelihood for
> confusion
> > would be very high with two OSS projects named Jal. And while JAL, the
> > programming language, might not have a Trademark, it would be rude IMO
> to a
> > long standing project to just hijack the name.
> >
> > If they have trademarks, it would be almost certainly a torpedo to the
> > name. My assumption is that the name suitability is rooted in finding a
> > trademarkable, unique, defendable, and brandable name.
> >
> > With Jal being an existing OSS project (
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) &
> > http://justanotherlanguage.org/), I'm certainly not excited by using
> that
> > name. For now, consider me a -0.5 and I welcome the opportunity to be
> > convinced differently.
> >
> > Sorry, I'm really working hard to make the incubator process positive so
> my
> > apologies again for a last minute monkey wrench. I just happened to
> catch
> > the subject on the thread and I know some PIC programming in JAL and so
> > here we are...
> >
> > Regards,
> > KAM
> >
> >
> > --
> > Kevin A. McGrail
> > Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 5:20 PM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I am aware of those uses, but they don’t seem to cross with the domain
> of
> >> the project.
> >> The suitable name search guide [0] expresses a lot of subtlety about
> name
> >> uniqueness which gave me this interpretation.
> >>
> >> Nevertheless, let’s then reopen the thread:
> >>
> >> Would you like to vote for another name in the list proposed?
> >>
> >> [0]:
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#what_makes_a_name_good
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Antoine,
> >>>
> >>> I hate to throw a wrench in the works but there has been so much
> traffic
> >>> here, I missed that thread. Jal (just another language) is a
> >>> programming language:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) &
> >>> http://justanotherlanguage.org/
> >>>
> >>> I don't think it's going to be appropriate for us to step on another
> >>> open source project name.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> KAM
> >>>
> >>> On 2/26/2019 5:02 PM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
> >>>> Thanks all.
> >>>>
> >>>> We have a clear winner with “Jal”, with 4 +1 votes and no votes for
> >> other names.
> >>>> Thank you for your participation!
> >>>>
> >>>> I will make mention of the result of this consultation on the
> proposal.
> >>>>
> >>>> We are now set to open the podling.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>> Antoine
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 1:38 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> +1 for Jal
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards
> >>>>> JB
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 22/02/2019 23:47, Antoine Toulme wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator
> >> [0].
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better
> >> name for the project [1].
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Here are the names:
> >>>>>> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with
> >> the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
> >>>>>> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires
> >> (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
> >>>>>> - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a
> >> chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in
> the
> >> chain theme as well)
> >>>>>> - “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote
> >> from [3]: "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning
> >> covered with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of
> all
> >> the other dew drops.
> >>>>>> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other
> dew
> >> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
> >> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please
> >> feel free to justify your choice.
> >>>>>> Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of
> a
> >> strong contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick a
> >> name.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until Tuesday
> >> afternoon PST time.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Antoine
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [0]:
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> >>>>>> [1]:
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8d8014f53f140a3ccdd517c3c303de1d45cc04afdaee5961ac43e7fc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> >>>>>> [2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
> >>>>>> [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
> >>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >>>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Hi -
JAL is built for programming PIC micro controllers and I think that the field of use may be different enough. But the question is one for the VP, Brand.
http://justanotherlanguage.org
Regards,
Dave
> On Feb 26, 2019, at 2:33 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Thanks Antoine,
>
> I am happy to help and vote but I want to make sure I'm right before we get
> to that stage.
>
> I don't know if branding or legal (or press) would oppose the name Jal. My
> $0.02 is that if this were a corporate entity, the likelihood for confusion
> would be very high with two OSS projects named Jal. And while JAL, the
> programming language, might not have a Trademark, it would be rude IMO to a
> long standing project to just hijack the name.
>
> If they have trademarks, it would be almost certainly a torpedo to the
> name. My assumption is that the name suitability is rooted in finding a
> trademarkable, unique, defendable, and brandable name.
>
> With Jal being an existing OSS project (
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) &
> http://justanotherlanguage.org/), I'm certainly not excited by using that
> name. For now, consider me a -0.5 and I welcome the opportunity to be
> convinced differently.
>
> Sorry, I'm really working hard to make the incubator process positive so my
> apologies again for a last minute monkey wrench. I just happened to catch
> the subject on the thread and I know some PIC programming in JAL and so
> here we are...
>
> Regards,
> KAM
>
>
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> On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 5:20 PM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
>
>> I am aware of those uses, but they don’t seem to cross with the domain of
>> the project.
>> The suitable name search guide [0] expresses a lot of subtlety about name
>> uniqueness which gave me this interpretation.
>>
>> Nevertheless, let’s then reopen the thread:
>>
>> Would you like to vote for another name in the list proposed?
>>
>> [0]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#what_makes_a_name_good
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Antoine,
>>>
>>> I hate to throw a wrench in the works but there has been so much traffic
>>> here, I missed that thread. Jal (just another language) is a
>>> programming language:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) &
>>> http://justanotherlanguage.org/
>>>
>>> I don't think it's going to be appropriate for us to step on another
>>> open source project name.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> KAM
>>>
>>> On 2/26/2019 5:02 PM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>>>> Thanks all.
>>>>
>>>> We have a clear winner with “Jal”, with 4 +1 votes and no votes for
>> other names.
>>>> Thank you for your participation!
>>>>
>>>> I will make mention of the result of this consultation on the proposal.
>>>>
>>>> We are now set to open the podling.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Antoine
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 1:38 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 for Jal
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> JB
>>>>>
>>>>> On 22/02/2019 23:47, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator
>> [0].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better
>> name for the project [1].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here are the names:
>>>>>> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with
>> the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
>>>>>> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires
>> (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
>>>>>> - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a
>> chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the
>> chain theme as well)
>>>>>> - “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote
>> from [3]: "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning
>> covered with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all
>> the other dew drops.
>>>>>> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew
>> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
>> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please
>> feel free to justify your choice.
>>>>>> Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of a
>> strong contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick a
>> name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until Tuesday
>> afternoon PST time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [0]:
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>>>>> [1]:
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8d8014f53f140a3ccdd517c3c303de1d45cc04afdaee5961ac43e7fc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>>>>> [2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
>>>>>> [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by "Kevin A. McGrail" <km...@apache.org>.
Thanks Antoine,
I am happy to help and vote but I want to make sure I'm right before we get
to that stage.
I don't know if branding or legal (or press) would oppose the name Jal. My
$0.02 is that if this were a corporate entity, the likelihood for confusion
would be very high with two OSS projects named Jal. And while JAL, the
programming language, might not have a Trademark, it would be rude IMO to a
long standing project to just hijack the name.
If they have trademarks, it would be almost certainly a torpedo to the
name. My assumption is that the name suitability is rooted in finding a
trademarkable, unique, defendable, and brandable name.
With Jal being an existing OSS project (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) &
http://justanotherlanguage.org/), I'm certainly not excited by using that
name. For now, consider me a -0.5 and I welcome the opportunity to be
convinced differently.
Sorry, I'm really working hard to make the incubator process positive so my
apologies again for a last minute monkey wrench. I just happened to catch
the subject on the thread and I know some PIC programming in JAL and so
here we are...
Regards,
KAM
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On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 5:20 PM Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name> wrote:
> I am aware of those uses, but they don’t seem to cross with the domain of
> the project.
> The suitable name search guide [0] expresses a lot of subtlety about name
> uniqueness which gave me this interpretation.
>
> Nevertheless, let’s then reopen the thread:
>
> Would you like to vote for another name in the list proposed?
>
> [0]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#what_makes_a_name_good
>
>
> > On Feb 26, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Antoine,
> >
> > I hate to throw a wrench in the works but there has been so much traffic
> > here, I missed that thread. Jal (just another language) is a
> > programming language:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) &
> > http://justanotherlanguage.org/
> >
> > I don't think it's going to be appropriate for us to step on another
> > open source project name.
> >
> > Regards,
> > KAM
> >
> > On 2/26/2019 5:02 PM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
> >> Thanks all.
> >>
> >> We have a clear winner with “Jal”, with 4 +1 votes and no votes for
> other names.
> >> Thank you for your participation!
> >>
> >> I will make mention of the result of this consultation on the proposal.
> >>
> >> We are now set to open the podling.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Antoine
> >>
> >>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 1:38 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> +1 for Jal
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> JB
> >>>
> >>> On 22/02/2019 23:47, Antoine Toulme wrote:
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator
> [0].
> >>>>
> >>>> At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better
> name for the project [1].
> >>>>
> >>>> Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
> >>>>
> >>>> Here are the names:
> >>>> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with
> the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
> >>>> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires
> (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
> >>>> - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a
> chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the
> chain theme as well)
> >>>> - “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote
> from [3]: "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning
> covered with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all
> the other dew drops.
> >>>> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew
> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts)
> >>>>
> >>>> In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please
> feel free to justify your choice.
> >>>> Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of a
> strong contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick a
> name.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until Tuesday
> afternoon PST time.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>> Antoine
> >>>>
> >>>> [0]:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> >>>> [1]:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8d8014f53f140a3ccdd517c3c303de1d45cc04afdaee5961ac43e7fc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> >>>> [2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
> >>>> [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
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> >>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
I am aware of those uses, but they don’t seem to cross with the domain of the project.
The suitable name search guide [0] expresses a lot of subtlety about name uniqueness which gave me this interpretation.
Nevertheless, let’s then reopen the thread:
Would you like to vote for another name in the list proposed?
[0]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#what_makes_a_name_good
> On Feb 26, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Antoine,
>
> I hate to throw a wrench in the works but there has been so much traffic
> here, I missed that thread. Jal (just another language) is a
> programming language:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) &
> http://justanotherlanguage.org/
>
> I don't think it's going to be appropriate for us to step on another
> open source project name.
>
> Regards,
> KAM
>
> On 2/26/2019 5:02 PM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>> Thanks all.
>>
>> We have a clear winner with “Jal”, with 4 +1 votes and no votes for other names.
>> Thank you for your participation!
>>
>> I will make mention of the result of this consultation on the proposal.
>>
>> We are now set to open the podling.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Antoine
>>
>>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 1:38 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> +1 for Jal
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>> On 22/02/2019 23:47, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator [0].
>>>>
>>>> At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better name for the project [1].
>>>>
>>>> Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
>>>>
>>>> Here are the names:
>>>> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
>>>> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
>>>> - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the chain theme as well)
>>>> - “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote from [3]: "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning covered with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the other dew drops.
>>>> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts)
>>>>
>>>> In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please feel free to justify your choice.
>>>> Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of a strong contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick a name.
>>>>
>>>> I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until Tuesday afternoon PST time.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Antoine
>>>>
>>>> [0]: https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>>> [1]: https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8d8014f53f140a3ccdd517c3c303de1d45cc04afdaee5961ac43e7fc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>>> [2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
>>>> [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by "Kevin A. McGrail" <km...@apache.org>.
Antoine,
I hate to throw a wrench in the works but there has been so much traffic
here, I missed that thread. Jal (just another language) is a
programming language:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) &
http://justanotherlanguage.org/
I don't think it's going to be appropriate for us to step on another
open source project name.
Regards,
KAM
On 2/26/2019 5:02 PM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
> Thanks all.
>
> We have a clear winner with “Jal”, with 4 +1 votes and no votes for other names.
> Thank you for your participation!
>
> I will make mention of the result of this consultation on the proposal.
>
> We are now set to open the podling.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Antoine
>
>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 1:38 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>>
>> +1 for Jal
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On 22/02/2019 23:47, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator [0].
>>>
>>> At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better name for the project [1].
>>>
>>> Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
>>>
>>> Here are the names:
>>> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
>>> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
>>> - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the chain theme as well)
>>> - “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote from [3]: "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning covered with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the other dew drops.
>>> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts)
>>>
>>> In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please feel free to justify your choice.
>>> Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of a strong contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick a name.
>>>
>>> I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until Tuesday afternoon PST time.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Antoine
>>>
>>> [0]: https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>> [1]: https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8d8014f53f140a3ccdd517c3c303de1d45cc04afdaee5961ac43e7fc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>> [2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
>>> [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Antoine Toulme <an...@toulme.name>.
Thanks all.
We have a clear winner with “Jal”, with 4 +1 votes and no votes for other names.
Thank you for your participation!
I will make mention of the result of this consultation on the proposal.
We are now set to open the podling.
Cheers,
Antoine
> On Feb 25, 2019, at 1:38 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>
> +1 for Jal
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 22/02/2019 23:47, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator [0].
>>
>> At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better name for the project [1].
>>
>> Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
>>
>> Here are the names:
>> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
>> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
>> - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the chain theme as well)
>> - “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote from [3]: "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning covered with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the other dew drops.
>> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts)
>>
>> In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please feel free to justify your choice.
>> Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of a strong contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick a name.
>>
>> I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until Tuesday afternoon PST time.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Antoine
>>
>> [0]: https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>> [1]: https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8d8014f53f140a3ccdd517c3c303de1d45cc04afdaee5961ac43e7fc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>> [2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
>> [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
+1 for Jal
Regards
JB
On 22/02/2019 23:47, Antoine Toulme wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator [0].
>
> At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better name for the project [1].
>
> Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
>
> Here are the names:
> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
> - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the chain theme as well)
> - “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote from [3]: "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning covered with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the other dew drops.
> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts)
>
> In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please feel free to justify your choice.
> Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of a strong contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick a name.
>
> I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until Tuesday afternoon PST time.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Antoine
>
> [0]: https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
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> [2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
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