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Posted to user@ofbiz.apache.org by Charles LC So <ch...@tourdefarm.com> on 2018/06/01 00:08:13 UTC

Re: Separate module for custom backend code and UI

Hello all

I’m evaluating the same aspect of OFBiz too. 

I evaluated OFBiz 10 years ago. At that time the front end was not easily changed, and we need to have our Store online ASAP, so the only choice we have is OpenCart. 

Gosh, as some of us swear, OC is total crap. 

Now our shop has been live for almost 6 years, and we want to take a look at OFBiz again, and hopefully re-implement what we need in our shop within OFBiz. 

Is there a templating framework (or something that enables us to handle the needs of B2C) within OFBiz for the DIYers now, or do we need to pay a services company to do a modern front end for us?

Much thx!
Charles

> On 1 Jun 2018, at 2:45 AM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Rajesh. I'm kind of newbie for ofbiz, would you be kind to redirect me to documentation for this or something to start with and to understand this stuff.
> 
>> On 2018/05/31 15:46:17, Rajesh Mallah <ma...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>> Hi Gauravjlj ,
>> 
>> Its very much possible. And there are multiple solutions.
>> I am doing the same in my own way utilizing OFBiz as the core backend.
>> I use XML/RPC to interact with OFBiz webservices there 3600+ of them .
>> 
>> regds
>> mallah.
>> 
>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:38 PM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I want to use ofbiz as an online eCommerce store at least for the now but
>>> UI seems very old and can't fit in today's time.
>>> So,
>>> I would be having many changing in business logic in backend/frontend and
>>> I don't want to change the existing logic rather I want to build a top
>>> layer which will include my new UI and custom backend code, So out of the
>>> box code remains intact in that modular approach and also if any new
>>> release comes then it would be very easy to upgrade my system. Is that
>>> possible. We do the same thing in Oracle Commerce but I can't afford it :)
>>> 
>>

Re: Separate module for custom backend code and UI

Posted by Rajesh Mallah <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hi Aditya ,
Thanks for the link to Service Engine Guide , looks nice at a cursory
glance.

Regds
mallah.

On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 11:10 AM, Aditya Sharma <
aditya.sharma@hotwaxsystems.com> wrote:

> Hi Gauravjlj,
>
> You can have your own custom plugin with custom UI. Refer the following
> link
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/
> OFBiz+Tutorial+-+A+Beginners+Development+Guide+for+16.11#OFBizTutorial-
> ABeginnersDevelopmentGuidefor16.11-CustomizingUserInterface
>
> You can override core services & events according to your custom needs in
> your component.
>
> Refer the following link:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Service+Engine+Guide
>
> HTH
>
> Thanks and Regards,
>
> *Aditya Sharma* | Enterprise Software Engineer
> HotWax Commerce <http://www.hotwax.co/> by HotWax Systems
> <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>
>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/aditya-sharma-78291810a/>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 5:44 AM Charles LC So <ch...@tourdefarm.com>
> wrote:
>
> > May be I can be more specific in the ideal implementation.
> >
> > As there are lots of commercial templates (some are of decent quality,
> but
> > still quite buggy) for various carts in the marketplace, may be we can
> have
> > most of the up-front front end work done by buying these templates and
> just
> > work on integrating the template into OFBiz.
> >
> > This should reduce a substantial portion of effort needed to have a
> modern
> > front end (without being an expert in CSS, JavaScript, JQuery, blah blah
> > blah).
> >
> > Charles
> >
> > > On 1 Jun 2018, at 8:08 AM, Charles LC So <ch...@tourdefarm.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello all
> > >
> > > I’m evaluating the same aspect of OFBiz too.
> > >
> > > I evaluated OFBiz 10 years ago. At that time the front end was not
> > easily changed, and we need to have our Store online ASAP, so the only
> > choice we have is OpenCart.
> > >
> > > Gosh, as some of us swear, OC is total crap.
> > >
> > > Now our shop has been live for almost 6 years, and we want to take a
> > look at OFBiz again, and hopefully re-implement what we need in our shop
> > within OFBiz.
> > >
> > > Is there a templating framework (or something that enables us to handle
> > the needs of B2C) within OFBiz for the DIYers now, or do we need to pay a
> > services company to do a modern front end for us?
> > >
> > > Much thx!
> > > Charles
> > >
> > >> On 1 Jun 2018, at 2:45 AM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Thanks Rajesh. I'm kind of newbie for ofbiz, would you be kind to
> > redirect me to documentation for this or something to start with and to
> > understand this stuff.
> > >>
> > >>> On 2018/05/31 15:46:17, Rajesh Mallah <ma...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>> Hi Gauravjlj ,
> > >>>
> > >>> Its very much possible. And there are multiple solutions.
> > >>> I am doing the same in my own way utilizing OFBiz as the core
> backend.
> > >>> I use XML/RPC to interact with OFBiz webservices there 3600+ of them
> .
> > >>>
> > >>> regds
> > >>> mallah.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:38 PM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <
> > gauravjlj@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I want to use ofbiz as an online eCommerce store at least for the
> now
> > but
> > >>>> UI seems very old and can't fit in today's time.
> > >>>> So,
> > >>>> I would be having many changing in business logic in
> backend/frontend
> > and
> > >>>> I don't want to change the existing logic rather I want to build a
> top
> > >>>> layer which will include my new UI and custom backend code, So out
> of
> > the
> > >>>> box code remains intact in that modular approach and also if any new
> > >>>> release comes then it would be very easy to upgrade my system. Is
> that
> > >>>> possible. We do the same thing in Oracle Commerce but I can't afford
> > it :)
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >
> >
> >
>

Re: Separate module for custom backend code and UI

Posted by Aditya Sharma <ad...@hotwaxsystems.com>.
Hi Gauravjlj,

You can have your own custom plugin with custom UI. Refer the following link

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Tutorial+-+A+Beginners+Development+Guide+for+16.11#OFBizTutorial-ABeginnersDevelopmentGuidefor16.11-CustomizingUserInterface

You can override core services & events according to your custom needs in
your component.

Refer the following link:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Service+Engine+Guide

HTH

Thanks and Regards,

*Aditya Sharma* | Enterprise Software Engineer
HotWax Commerce <http://www.hotwax.co/> by HotWax Systems
<http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>

<https://www.linkedin.com/in/aditya-sharma-78291810a/>


On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 5:44 AM Charles LC So <ch...@tourdefarm.com> wrote:

> May be I can be more specific in the ideal implementation.
>
> As there are lots of commercial templates (some are of decent quality, but
> still quite buggy) for various carts in the marketplace, may be we can have
> most of the up-front front end work done by buying these templates and just
> work on integrating the template into OFBiz.
>
> This should reduce a substantial portion of effort needed to have a modern
> front end (without being an expert in CSS, JavaScript, JQuery, blah blah
> blah).
>
> Charles
>
> > On 1 Jun 2018, at 8:08 AM, Charles LC So <ch...@tourdefarm.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all
> >
> > I’m evaluating the same aspect of OFBiz too.
> >
> > I evaluated OFBiz 10 years ago. At that time the front end was not
> easily changed, and we need to have our Store online ASAP, so the only
> choice we have is OpenCart.
> >
> > Gosh, as some of us swear, OC is total crap.
> >
> > Now our shop has been live for almost 6 years, and we want to take a
> look at OFBiz again, and hopefully re-implement what we need in our shop
> within OFBiz.
> >
> > Is there a templating framework (or something that enables us to handle
> the needs of B2C) within OFBiz for the DIYers now, or do we need to pay a
> services company to do a modern front end for us?
> >
> > Much thx!
> > Charles
> >
> >> On 1 Jun 2018, at 2:45 AM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks Rajesh. I'm kind of newbie for ofbiz, would you be kind to
> redirect me to documentation for this or something to start with and to
> understand this stuff.
> >>
> >>> On 2018/05/31 15:46:17, Rajesh Mallah <ma...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> Hi Gauravjlj ,
> >>>
> >>> Its very much possible. And there are multiple solutions.
> >>> I am doing the same in my own way utilizing OFBiz as the core backend.
> >>> I use XML/RPC to interact with OFBiz webservices there 3600+ of them .
> >>>
> >>> regds
> >>> mallah.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:38 PM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <
> gauravjlj@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I want to use ofbiz as an online eCommerce store at least for the now
> but
> >>>> UI seems very old and can't fit in today's time.
> >>>> So,
> >>>> I would be having many changing in business logic in backend/frontend
> and
> >>>> I don't want to change the existing logic rather I want to build a top
> >>>> layer which will include my new UI and custom backend code, So out of
> the
> >>>> box code remains intact in that modular approach and also if any new
> >>>> release comes then it would be very easy to upgrade my system. Is that
> >>>> possible. We do the same thing in Oracle Commerce but I can't afford
> it :)
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
>
>

Re: Separate module for custom backend code and UI

Posted by Charles LC So <ch...@tourdefarm.com>.
May be I can be more specific in the ideal implementation. 

As there are lots of commercial templates (some are of decent quality, but still quite buggy) for various carts in the marketplace, may be we can have most of the up-front front end work done by buying these templates and just work on integrating the template into OFBiz. 

This should reduce a substantial portion of effort needed to have a modern front end (without being an expert in CSS, JavaScript, JQuery, blah blah blah). 

Charles

> On 1 Jun 2018, at 8:08 AM, Charles LC So <ch...@tourdefarm.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello all
> 
> I’m evaluating the same aspect of OFBiz too. 
> 
> I evaluated OFBiz 10 years ago. At that time the front end was not easily changed, and we need to have our Store online ASAP, so the only choice we have is OpenCart. 
> 
> Gosh, as some of us swear, OC is total crap. 
> 
> Now our shop has been live for almost 6 years, and we want to take a look at OFBiz again, and hopefully re-implement what we need in our shop within OFBiz. 
> 
> Is there a templating framework (or something that enables us to handle the needs of B2C) within OFBiz for the DIYers now, or do we need to pay a services company to do a modern front end for us?
> 
> Much thx!
> Charles
> 
>> On 1 Jun 2018, at 2:45 AM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Rajesh. I'm kind of newbie for ofbiz, would you be kind to redirect me to documentation for this or something to start with and to understand this stuff.
>> 
>>> On 2018/05/31 15:46:17, Rajesh Mallah <ma...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>> Hi Gauravjlj ,
>>> 
>>> Its very much possible. And there are multiple solutions.
>>> I am doing the same in my own way utilizing OFBiz as the core backend.
>>> I use XML/RPC to interact with OFBiz webservices there 3600+ of them .
>>> 
>>> regds
>>> mallah.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:38 PM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I want to use ofbiz as an online eCommerce store at least for the now but
>>>> UI seems very old and can't fit in today's time.
>>>> So,
>>>> I would be having many changing in business logic in backend/frontend and
>>>> I don't want to change the existing logic rather I want to build a top
>>>> layer which will include my new UI and custom backend code, So out of the
>>>> box code remains intact in that modular approach and also if any new
>>>> release comes then it would be very easy to upgrade my system. Is that
>>>> possible. We do the same thing in Oracle Commerce but I can't afford it :)
>>>> 
>>> 
>