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Posted to users@tapestry.apache.org by Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it> on 2014/08/24 10:27:09 UTC
LCR in Eclipse without Sysdeo plugin
Hi everybody I'm a former user of T4 but for many reasons independent
from my will, I had to abandon Tapestry a few years ago, while I'm still
maintaining some web applications.
Now I want to step into T5 and I'm following the tutorial.
I have set up under Eclipse and successfully running the tutorial.
Before going further I would like to be sure LCR works (because actually
doesn't).
I have read the Kalle page on setting up tomcat but I would like to
avoid the use of Sysdeo, because I use Eclipse+Tomcat for other
applications and I'm used to launch Tomcat via Eclipse Debug
Configuration.
My question is: can I achieve LCR wihtout Sysdeo? Would it be enough to
deploy devloader in Tomcat lib ?
TIA
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tel.: +39-050- 580959
tel/fax: +39-050-9711344
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Re: LCR in Eclipse without Sysdeo plugin
Posted by Dmitry Gusev <dm...@gmail.com>.
Hi Christian,
It'd be nice if you could summarize the steps how you set up your
development environment in the form of a blog post or a wiki page.
Similar to what Kalle did with Eclipse+Sysdeo:
http://docs.codehaus.org/display/TYNAMO/Developing+with+Tomcat+and+Eclipse
It'd really help the community.
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Christian Dutaret <cd...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've seen a lot of people claiming that one should use Sysdeo plugin to
> work with Tomcat under eclipse/Maven for T5 development, and that the
> standard WTP plugin should be avoided, because it is supposedly buggy and
> slow.
> I've been using WTP plugin for years with other frameworks (including T4),
> and I have no problem at all using it for T5 web apps, as long as it is
> properly configured. I have live class reloading working, Maven
> dependencies picked up just fine, and no Tomcat restarts (and no devloader
> to configure).
>
> I f anyone is interested, here is my configuration (using Tomcat 8 and
> latest Eclipse Luna, but should also work with older versions) :
> - plugins: WTP, m2e, m2e-wtp (but they all come with the Eclipse for JEE
> build)
> - Server configuration: serve modules without publishing, auto-reload
> disabled by default
> - Dismiss any hot deploy alerts (click do not warn again if hot deploy
> fails - hot deploy does fail but LCR doesn't)
>
> Christian
>
>
> 2014-08-25 8:03 GMT+02:00 Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it>:
>
> > Thanks Kalle....now I (hope I) have a clear path
> >
> >
> > Il 25/08/2014 07:48, Kalle Korhonen ha scritto:
> > > On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thanks Kalle, maybe I'm starting to figuring it out.
> > >> So the devloader enables the container to load classes from paths
> > >> aoutside WEB-INF/lib and WEB-INF/classes , right?
> > >>
> > > That's what I said and that's what the linked resource said.
> > >
> > >> So if instead of the maven project layout I use the classic WTP
> project
> > >> layout that has a
> > >> WebContent folder which includes WEB-INF/lib and WEB-INF/classes and
> if
> > >> properly configured builds classes from my source folder into
> > >> WEB-INF/classes I would get LCR working. Is this correct?
> > >>
> > > Yes. Deploy as exploded and remember to turn off container
> > auto-reloading.
> > >
> > >> Of course this goes against all the maven stuff that seems to be used
> by
> > >> the vast majority of T5 devs.....
> > >>
> > > Not only T5 but vast majority of Java devs.
> > >
> > > Kalle
> > >
> > >
> > >> Il 25/08/2014 07:24, Kalle Korhonen ha scritto:
> > >>> You don't need the devloader for live class reloading. You need it to
> > be
> > >>> able to pick up classes from other locations than /lib or /classes,
> say
> > >>> from your local Maven repo, as explained at the bottom of
> > >>> http://www.eclipsetotale.com/tomcatPlugin/readmeDevLoader.html. Now,
> > you
> > >>> can technically use the devloader by itself by manually configuring
> the
> > >>> devloader's configuration file but I wouldn't recommend it. (and to
> > >> others,
> > >>> Ivano specifically stated he wants to use Tomcat, not Jetty).
> > >>>
> > >>> Kalle
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Ivano Luberti <luberti@archicoop.it
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>> Hi everybody I'm a former user of T4 but for many reasons
> independent
> > >>>> from my will, I had to abandon Tapestry a few years ago, while I'm
> > still
> > >>>> maintaining some web applications.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Now I want to step into T5 and I'm following the tutorial.
> > >>>> I have set up under Eclipse and successfully running the tutorial.
> > >>>> Before going further I would like to be sure LCR works (because
> > actually
> > >>>> doesn't).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I have read the Kalle page on setting up tomcat but I would like to
> > >>>> avoid the use of Sysdeo, because I use Eclipse+Tomcat for other
> > >>>> applications and I'm used to launch Tomcat via Eclipse Debug
> > >>>> Configuration.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> My question is: can I achieve LCR wihtout Sysdeo? Would it be enough
> > to
> > >>>> deploy devloader in Tomcat lib ?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> TIA
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> ==================================================
> > >>>> dott. Ivano Mario Luberti
> > >>>> Archimede Informatica societa' cooperativa a r. l.
> > >>>> Sede Operativa
> > >>>> Via Gereschi 36 - 56126- Pisa
> > >>>> tel.: +39-050- 580959
> > >>>> tel/fax: +39-050-9711344
> > >>>> web: www.archicoop.it
> > >>>> ==================================================
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> --
> > >> ==================================================
> > >> dott. Ivano Mario Luberti
> > >> Archimede Informatica societa' cooperativa a r. l.
> > >> Sede Operativa
> > >> Via Gereschi 36 - 56126- Pisa
> > >> tel.: +39-050- 580959
> > >> tel/fax: +39-050-9711344
> > >> web: www.archicoop.it
> > >> ==================================================
> > >>
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >>
> >
> > --
> > ==================================================
> > dott. Ivano Mario Luberti
> > Archimede Informatica societa' cooperativa a r. l.
> > Sede Operativa
> > Via Gereschi 36 - 56126- Pisa
> > tel.: +39-050- 580959
> > tel/fax: +39-050-9711344
> > web: www.archicoop.it
> > ==================================================
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
> >
> >
>
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Re: LCR in Eclipse without Sysdeo plugin
Posted by Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it>.
Hi Christian, it seems to work: I used the tutorial T5 project created
following the tutorial on T5 web site. Then i have configured my Tomca
runtime in eclipde checking "serve modules without publishing" and
unchecking "Modules auto-reload by default"
then modified on the fly the index.java file and modification have been
taken into account without reloading
Many thanks
BTW to verify this works on old versions of Eclipse+Tomcat+Java combo I
verified your suggestions with Eclipse Juno+Tomcat6+Java 6
Il 25/08/2014 10:29, Christian Dutaret ha scritto:
> Hi all,
>
> I've seen a lot of people claiming that one should use Sysdeo plugin to
> work with Tomcat under eclipse/Maven for T5 development, and that the
> standard WTP plugin should be avoided, because it is supposedly buggy and
> slow.
> I've been using WTP plugin for years with other frameworks (including T4),
> and I have no problem at all using it for T5 web apps, as long as it is
> properly configured. I have live class reloading working, Maven
> dependencies picked up just fine, and no Tomcat restarts (and no devloader
> to configure).
>
> I f anyone is interested,
I am
> here is my configuration (using Tomcat 8 and
> latest Eclipse Luna, but should also work with older versions) :
> - plugins: WTP, m2e, m2e-wtp (but they all come with the Eclipse for JEE
> build)
ok
> - Server configuration: serve modules without publishing, auto-reload
> disabled by default
> - Dismiss any hot deploy alerts (click do not warn again if hot deploy
> fails - hot deploy does fail but LCR doesn't)
>
> Christian
>
>
> 2014-08-25 8:03 GMT+02:00 Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it>:
>
>> Thanks Kalle....now I (hope I) have a clear path
>>
>>
>> Il 25/08/2014 07:48, Kalle Korhonen ha scritto:
>>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Kalle, maybe I'm starting to figuring it out.
>>>> So the devloader enables the container to load classes from paths
>>>> aoutside WEB-INF/lib and WEB-INF/classes , right?
>>>>
>>> That's what I said and that's what the linked resource said.
>>>
>>>> So if instead of the maven project layout I use the classic WTP project
>>>> layout that has a
>>>> WebContent folder which includes WEB-INF/lib and WEB-INF/classes and if
>>>> properly configured builds classes from my source folder into
>>>> WEB-INF/classes I would get LCR working. Is this correct?
>>>>
>>> Yes. Deploy as exploded and remember to turn off container
>> auto-reloading.
>>>> Of course this goes against all the maven stuff that seems to be used by
>>>> the vast majority of T5 devs.....
>>>>
>>> Not only T5 but vast majority of Java devs.
>>>
>>> Kalle
>>>
>>>
>>>> Il 25/08/2014 07:24, Kalle Korhonen ha scritto:
>>>>> You don't need the devloader for live class reloading. You need it to
>> be
>>>>> able to pick up classes from other locations than /lib or /classes, say
>>>>> from your local Maven repo, as explained at the bottom of
>>>>> http://www.eclipsetotale.com/tomcatPlugin/readmeDevLoader.html. Now,
>> you
>>>>> can technically use the devloader by itself by manually configuring the
>>>>> devloader's configuration file but I wouldn't recommend it. (and to
>>>> others,
>>>>> Ivano specifically stated he wants to use Tomcat, not Jetty).
>>>>>
>>>>> Kalle
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi everybody I'm a former user of T4 but for many reasons independent
>>>>>> from my will, I had to abandon Tapestry a few years ago, while I'm
>> still
>>>>>> maintaining some web applications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now I want to step into T5 and I'm following the tutorial.
>>>>>> I have set up under Eclipse and successfully running the tutorial.
>>>>>> Before going further I would like to be sure LCR works (because
>> actually
>>>>>> doesn't).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have read the Kalle page on setting up tomcat but I would like to
>>>>>> avoid the use of Sysdeo, because I use Eclipse+Tomcat for other
>>>>>> applications and I'm used to launch Tomcat via Eclipse Debug
>>>>>> Configuration.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My question is: can I achieve LCR wihtout Sysdeo? Would it be enough
>> to
>>>>>> deploy devloader in Tomcat lib ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ==================================================
>>>>>> dott. Ivano Mario Luberti
>>>>>> Archimede Informatica societa' cooperativa a r. l.
>>>>>> Sede Operativa
>>>>>> Via Gereschi 36 - 56126- Pisa
>>>>>> tel.: +39-050- 580959
>>>>>> tel/fax: +39-050-9711344
>>>>>> web: www.archicoop.it
>>>>>> ==================================================
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ==================================================
>>>> dott. Ivano Mario Luberti
>>>> Archimede Informatica societa' cooperativa a r. l.
>>>> Sede Operativa
>>>> Via Gereschi 36 - 56126- Pisa
>>>> tel.: +39-050- 580959
>>>> tel/fax: +39-050-9711344
>>>> web: www.archicoop.it
>>>> ==================================================
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
>>>>
>>>>
>> --
>> ==================================================
>> dott. Ivano Mario Luberti
>> Archimede Informatica societa' cooperativa a r. l.
>> Sede Operativa
>> Via Gereschi 36 - 56126- Pisa
>> tel.: +39-050- 580959
>> tel/fax: +39-050-9711344
>> web: www.archicoop.it
>> ==================================================
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
>>
>>
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Archimede Informatica societa' cooperativa a r. l.
Sede Operativa
Via Gereschi 36 - 56126- Pisa
tel.: +39-050- 580959
tel/fax: +39-050-9711344
web: www.archicoop.it
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Re: LCR in Eclipse without Sysdeo plugin
Posted by Kalle Korhonen <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Christian Dutaret <cd...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Kalle, that's the whole point - I think - of the "serve modules without
> publishing" option. It just takes the resources from the eclipse target
> directory instead of copying things around.
>
Thanks Christian. I'll have to check out the native Eclipse option myself
then.
Kalle
>
> 2014-08-25 18:13 GMT+02:00 Kalle Korhonen <ka...@gmail.com>:
>
> > The last I checked, the WTP plugin was still copying the resource files
> > around which is my main beef with it. It causes subtle issues during
> > development since you are not sure whether you are seeing the latest
> > resource file or not immediately after saving. My experiences are from a
> > few years back though and like everything else, it's likely to have been
> > improved since.
> >
> > Kalle
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 1:29 AM, Christian Dutaret <cdtapestry@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I've seen a lot of people claiming that one should use Sysdeo plugin to
> > > work with Tomcat under eclipse/Maven for T5 development, and that the
> > > standard WTP plugin should be avoided, because it is supposedly buggy
> and
> > > slow.
> > > I've been using WTP plugin for years with other frameworks (including
> > T4),
> > > and I have no problem at all using it for T5 web apps, as long as it is
> > > properly configured. I have live class reloading working, Maven
> > > dependencies picked up just fine, and no Tomcat restarts (and no
> > devloader
> > > to configure).
> > >
> > > I f anyone is interested, here is my configuration (using Tomcat 8 and
> > > latest Eclipse Luna, but should also work with older versions) :
> > > - plugins: WTP, m2e, m2e-wtp (but they all come with the Eclipse for
> JEE
> > > build)
> > > - Server configuration: serve modules without publishing, auto-reload
> > > disabled by default
> > > - Dismiss any hot deploy alerts (click do not warn again if hot deploy
> > > fails - hot deploy does fail but LCR doesn't)
> > >
> > > Christian
> > >
> > >
> > > 2014-08-25 8:03 GMT+02:00 Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it>:
> > >
> > > > Thanks Kalle....now I (hope I) have a clear path
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Il 25/08/2014 07:48, Kalle Korhonen ha scritto:
> > > > > On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Ivano Luberti <
> > luberti@archicoop.it>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Thanks Kalle, maybe I'm starting to figuring it out.
> > > > >> So the devloader enables the container to load classes from paths
> > > > >> aoutside WEB-INF/lib and WEB-INF/classes , right?
> > > > >>
> > > > > That's what I said and that's what the linked resource said.
> > > > >
> > > > >> So if instead of the maven project layout I use the classic WTP
> > > project
> > > > >> layout that has a
> > > > >> WebContent folder which includes WEB-INF/lib and WEB-INF/classes
> and
> > > if
> > > > >> properly configured builds classes from my source folder into
> > > > >> WEB-INF/classes I would get LCR working. Is this correct?
> > > > >>
> > > > > Yes. Deploy as exploded and remember to turn off container
> > > > auto-reloading.
> > > > >
> > > > >> Of course this goes against all the maven stuff that seems to be
> > used
> > > by
> > > > >> the vast majority of T5 devs.....
> > > > >>
> > > > > Not only T5 but vast majority of Java devs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kalle
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> Il 25/08/2014 07:24, Kalle Korhonen ha scritto:
> > > > >>> You don't need the devloader for live class reloading. You need
> it
> > to
> > > > be
> > > > >>> able to pick up classes from other locations than /lib or
> /classes,
> > > say
> > > > >>> from your local Maven repo, as explained at the bottom of
> > > > >>> http://www.eclipsetotale.com/tomcatPlugin/readmeDevLoader.html.
> > Now,
> > > > you
> > > > >>> can technically use the devloader by itself by manually
> configuring
> > > the
> > > > >>> devloader's configuration file but I wouldn't recommend it. (and
> to
> > > > >> others,
> > > > >>> Ivano specifically stated he wants to use Tomcat, not Jetty).
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Kalle
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Ivano Luberti <
> > luberti@archicoop.it
> > > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>>> Hi everybody I'm a former user of T4 but for many reasons
> > > independent
> > > > >>>> from my will, I had to abandon Tapestry a few years ago, while
> I'm
> > > > still
> > > > >>>> maintaining some web applications.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Now I want to step into T5 and I'm following the tutorial.
> > > > >>>> I have set up under Eclipse and successfully running the
> tutorial.
> > > > >>>> Before going further I would like to be sure LCR works (because
> > > > actually
> > > > >>>> doesn't).
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> I have read the Kalle page on setting up tomcat but I would like
> > to
> > > > >>>> avoid the use of Sysdeo, because I use Eclipse+Tomcat for other
> > > > >>>> applications and I'm used to launch Tomcat via Eclipse Debug
> > > > >>>> Configuration.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> My question is: can I achieve LCR wihtout Sysdeo? Would it be
> > enough
> > > > to
> > > > >>>> deploy devloader in Tomcat lib ?
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> TIA
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> --
> > > > >>>> ==================================================
> > > > >>>> dott. Ivano Mario Luberti
> > > > >>>> Archimede Informatica societa' cooperativa a r. l.
> > > > >>>> Sede Operativa
> > > > >>>> Via Gereschi 36 - 56126- Pisa
> > > > >>>> tel.: +39-050- 580959
> > > > >>>> tel/fax: +39-050-9711344
> > > > >>>> web: www.archicoop.it
> > > > >>>> ==================================================
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
> > > > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> ==================================================
> > > > >> dott. Ivano Mario Luberti
> > > > >> Archimede Informatica societa' cooperativa a r. l.
> > > > >> Sede Operativa
> > > > >> Via Gereschi 36 - 56126- Pisa
> > > > >> tel.: +39-050- 580959
> > > > >> tel/fax: +39-050-9711344
> > > > >> web: www.archicoop.it
> > > > >> ==================================================
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > ==================================================
> > > > dott. Ivano Mario Luberti
> > > > Archimede Informatica societa' cooperativa a r. l.
> > > > Sede Operativa
> > > > Via Gereschi 36 - 56126- Pisa
> > > > tel.: +39-050- 580959
> > > > tel/fax: +39-050-9711344
> > > > web: www.archicoop.it
> > > > ==================================================
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: LCR in Eclipse without Sysdeo plugin
Posted by Christian Dutaret <cd...@gmail.com>.
Ivano, glad I could help.
Kalle, that's the whole point - I think - of the "serve modules without
publishing" option. It just takes the resources from the eclipse target
directory instead of copying things around.
Christian
2014-08-25 18:13 GMT+02:00 Kalle Korhonen <ka...@gmail.com>:
> The last I checked, the WTP plugin was still copying the resource files
> around which is my main beef with it. It causes subtle issues during
> development since you are not sure whether you are seeing the latest
> resource file or not immediately after saving. My experiences are from a
> few years back though and like everything else, it's likely to have been
> improved since.
>
> Kalle
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 1:29 AM, Christian Dutaret <cd...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've seen a lot of people claiming that one should use Sysdeo plugin to
> > work with Tomcat under eclipse/Maven for T5 development, and that the
> > standard WTP plugin should be avoided, because it is supposedly buggy and
> > slow.
> > I've been using WTP plugin for years with other frameworks (including
> T4),
> > and I have no problem at all using it for T5 web apps, as long as it is
> > properly configured. I have live class reloading working, Maven
> > dependencies picked up just fine, and no Tomcat restarts (and no
> devloader
> > to configure).
> >
> > I f anyone is interested, here is my configuration (using Tomcat 8 and
> > latest Eclipse Luna, but should also work with older versions) :
> > - plugins: WTP, m2e, m2e-wtp (but they all come with the Eclipse for JEE
> > build)
> > - Server configuration: serve modules without publishing, auto-reload
> > disabled by default
> > - Dismiss any hot deploy alerts (click do not warn again if hot deploy
> > fails - hot deploy does fail but LCR doesn't)
> >
> > Christian
> >
> >
> > 2014-08-25 8:03 GMT+02:00 Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it>:
> >
> > > Thanks Kalle....now I (hope I) have a clear path
> > >
> > >
> > > Il 25/08/2014 07:48, Kalle Korhonen ha scritto:
> > > > On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Ivano Luberti <
> luberti@archicoop.it>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Thanks Kalle, maybe I'm starting to figuring it out.
> > > >> So the devloader enables the container to load classes from paths
> > > >> aoutside WEB-INF/lib and WEB-INF/classes , right?
> > > >>
> > > > That's what I said and that's what the linked resource said.
> > > >
> > > >> So if instead of the maven project layout I use the classic WTP
> > project
> > > >> layout that has a
> > > >> WebContent folder which includes WEB-INF/lib and WEB-INF/classes and
> > if
> > > >> properly configured builds classes from my source folder into
> > > >> WEB-INF/classes I would get LCR working. Is this correct?
> > > >>
> > > > Yes. Deploy as exploded and remember to turn off container
> > > auto-reloading.
> > > >
> > > >> Of course this goes against all the maven stuff that seems to be
> used
> > by
> > > >> the vast majority of T5 devs.....
> > > >>
> > > > Not only T5 but vast majority of Java devs.
> > > >
> > > > Kalle
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Il 25/08/2014 07:24, Kalle Korhonen ha scritto:
> > > >>> You don't need the devloader for live class reloading. You need it
> to
> > > be
> > > >>> able to pick up classes from other locations than /lib or /classes,
> > say
> > > >>> from your local Maven repo, as explained at the bottom of
> > > >>> http://www.eclipsetotale.com/tomcatPlugin/readmeDevLoader.html.
> Now,
> > > you
> > > >>> can technically use the devloader by itself by manually configuring
> > the
> > > >>> devloader's configuration file but I wouldn't recommend it. (and to
> > > >> others,
> > > >>> Ivano specifically stated he wants to use Tomcat, not Jetty).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Kalle
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Ivano Luberti <
> luberti@archicoop.it
> > >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>> Hi everybody I'm a former user of T4 but for many reasons
> > independent
> > > >>>> from my will, I had to abandon Tapestry a few years ago, while I'm
> > > still
> > > >>>> maintaining some web applications.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Now I want to step into T5 and I'm following the tutorial.
> > > >>>> I have set up under Eclipse and successfully running the tutorial.
> > > >>>> Before going further I would like to be sure LCR works (because
> > > actually
> > > >>>> doesn't).
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I have read the Kalle page on setting up tomcat but I would like
> to
> > > >>>> avoid the use of Sysdeo, because I use Eclipse+Tomcat for other
> > > >>>> applications and I'm used to launch Tomcat via Eclipse Debug
> > > >>>> Configuration.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> My question is: can I achieve LCR wihtout Sysdeo? Would it be
> enough
> > > to
> > > >>>> deploy devloader in Tomcat lib ?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> TIA
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> --
> > > >>>> ==================================================
> > > >>>> dott. Ivano Mario Luberti
> > > >>>> Archimede Informatica societa' cooperativa a r. l.
> > > >>>> Sede Operativa
> > > >>>> Via Gereschi 36 - 56126- Pisa
> > > >>>> tel.: +39-050- 580959
> > > >>>> tel/fax: +39-050-9711344
> > > >>>> web: www.archicoop.it
> > > >>>> ==================================================
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
> > > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >> --
> > > >> ==================================================
> > > >> dott. Ivano Mario Luberti
> > > >> Archimede Informatica societa' cooperativa a r. l.
> > > >> Sede Operativa
> > > >> Via Gereschi 36 - 56126- Pisa
> > > >> tel.: +39-050- 580959
> > > >> tel/fax: +39-050-9711344
> > > >> web: www.archicoop.it
> > > >> ==================================================
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
> > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > > --
> > > ==================================================
> > > dott. Ivano Mario Luberti
> > > Archimede Informatica societa' cooperativa a r. l.
> > > Sede Operativa
> > > Via Gereschi 36 - 56126- Pisa
> > > tel.: +39-050- 580959
> > > tel/fax: +39-050-9711344
> > > web: www.archicoop.it
> > > ==================================================
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: LCR in Eclipse without Sysdeo plugin
Posted by Kalle Korhonen <ka...@gmail.com>.
The last I checked, the WTP plugin was still copying the resource files
around which is my main beef with it. It causes subtle issues during
development since you are not sure whether you are seeing the latest
resource file or not immediately after saving. My experiences are from a
few years back though and like everything else, it's likely to have been
improved since.
Kalle
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 1:29 AM, Christian Dutaret <cd...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've seen a lot of people claiming that one should use Sysdeo plugin to
> work with Tomcat under eclipse/Maven for T5 development, and that the
> standard WTP plugin should be avoided, because it is supposedly buggy and
> slow.
> I've been using WTP plugin for years with other frameworks (including T4),
> and I have no problem at all using it for T5 web apps, as long as it is
> properly configured. I have live class reloading working, Maven
> dependencies picked up just fine, and no Tomcat restarts (and no devloader
> to configure).
>
> I f anyone is interested, here is my configuration (using Tomcat 8 and
> latest Eclipse Luna, but should also work with older versions) :
> - plugins: WTP, m2e, m2e-wtp (but they all come with the Eclipse for JEE
> build)
> - Server configuration: serve modules without publishing, auto-reload
> disabled by default
> - Dismiss any hot deploy alerts (click do not warn again if hot deploy
> fails - hot deploy does fail but LCR doesn't)
>
> Christian
>
>
> 2014-08-25 8:03 GMT+02:00 Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it>:
>
> > Thanks Kalle....now I (hope I) have a clear path
> >
> >
> > Il 25/08/2014 07:48, Kalle Korhonen ha scritto:
> > > On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thanks Kalle, maybe I'm starting to figuring it out.
> > >> So the devloader enables the container to load classes from paths
> > >> aoutside WEB-INF/lib and WEB-INF/classes , right?
> > >>
> > > That's what I said and that's what the linked resource said.
> > >
> > >> So if instead of the maven project layout I use the classic WTP
> project
> > >> layout that has a
> > >> WebContent folder which includes WEB-INF/lib and WEB-INF/classes and
> if
> > >> properly configured builds classes from my source folder into
> > >> WEB-INF/classes I would get LCR working. Is this correct?
> > >>
> > > Yes. Deploy as exploded and remember to turn off container
> > auto-reloading.
> > >
> > >> Of course this goes against all the maven stuff that seems to be used
> by
> > >> the vast majority of T5 devs.....
> > >>
> > > Not only T5 but vast majority of Java devs.
> > >
> > > Kalle
> > >
> > >
> > >> Il 25/08/2014 07:24, Kalle Korhonen ha scritto:
> > >>> You don't need the devloader for live class reloading. You need it to
> > be
> > >>> able to pick up classes from other locations than /lib or /classes,
> say
> > >>> from your local Maven repo, as explained at the bottom of
> > >>> http://www.eclipsetotale.com/tomcatPlugin/readmeDevLoader.html. Now,
> > you
> > >>> can technically use the devloader by itself by manually configuring
> the
> > >>> devloader's configuration file but I wouldn't recommend it. (and to
> > >> others,
> > >>> Ivano specifically stated he wants to use Tomcat, not Jetty).
> > >>>
> > >>> Kalle
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Ivano Luberti <luberti@archicoop.it
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>> Hi everybody I'm a former user of T4 but for many reasons
> independent
> > >>>> from my will, I had to abandon Tapestry a few years ago, while I'm
> > still
> > >>>> maintaining some web applications.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Now I want to step into T5 and I'm following the tutorial.
> > >>>> I have set up under Eclipse and successfully running the tutorial.
> > >>>> Before going further I would like to be sure LCR works (because
> > actually
> > >>>> doesn't).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I have read the Kalle page on setting up tomcat but I would like to
> > >>>> avoid the use of Sysdeo, because I use Eclipse+Tomcat for other
> > >>>> applications and I'm used to launch Tomcat via Eclipse Debug
> > >>>> Configuration.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> My question is: can I achieve LCR wihtout Sysdeo? Would it be enough
> > to
> > >>>> deploy devloader in Tomcat lib ?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> TIA
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> ==================================================
> > >>>> dott. Ivano Mario Luberti
> > >>>> Archimede Informatica societa' cooperativa a r. l.
> > >>>> Sede Operativa
> > >>>> Via Gereschi 36 - 56126- Pisa
> > >>>> tel.: +39-050- 580959
> > >>>> tel/fax: +39-050-9711344
> > >>>> web: www.archicoop.it
> > >>>> ==================================================
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
> > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> --
> > >> ==================================================
> > >> dott. Ivano Mario Luberti
> > >> Archimede Informatica societa' cooperativa a r. l.
> > >> Sede Operativa
> > >> Via Gereschi 36 - 56126- Pisa
> > >> tel.: +39-050- 580959
> > >> tel/fax: +39-050-9711344
> > >> web: www.archicoop.it
> > >> ==================================================
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> > --
> > ==================================================
> > dott. Ivano Mario Luberti
> > Archimede Informatica societa' cooperativa a r. l.
> > Sede Operativa
> > Via Gereschi 36 - 56126- Pisa
> > tel.: +39-050- 580959
> > tel/fax: +39-050-9711344
> > web: www.archicoop.it
> > ==================================================
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
> >
> >
>
Re: LCR in Eclipse without Sysdeo plugin
Posted by Christian Dutaret <cd...@gmail.com>.
Hi all,
I've seen a lot of people claiming that one should use Sysdeo plugin to
work with Tomcat under eclipse/Maven for T5 development, and that the
standard WTP plugin should be avoided, because it is supposedly buggy and
slow.
I've been using WTP plugin for years with other frameworks (including T4),
and I have no problem at all using it for T5 web apps, as long as it is
properly configured. I have live class reloading working, Maven
dependencies picked up just fine, and no Tomcat restarts (and no devloader
to configure).
I f anyone is interested, here is my configuration (using Tomcat 8 and
latest Eclipse Luna, but should also work with older versions) :
- plugins: WTP, m2e, m2e-wtp (but they all come with the Eclipse for JEE
build)
- Server configuration: serve modules without publishing, auto-reload
disabled by default
- Dismiss any hot deploy alerts (click do not warn again if hot deploy
fails - hot deploy does fail but LCR doesn't)
Christian
2014-08-25 8:03 GMT+02:00 Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it>:
> Thanks Kalle....now I (hope I) have a clear path
>
>
> Il 25/08/2014 07:48, Kalle Korhonen ha scritto:
> > On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Kalle, maybe I'm starting to figuring it out.
> >> So the devloader enables the container to load classes from paths
> >> aoutside WEB-INF/lib and WEB-INF/classes , right?
> >>
> > That's what I said and that's what the linked resource said.
> >
> >> So if instead of the maven project layout I use the classic WTP project
> >> layout that has a
> >> WebContent folder which includes WEB-INF/lib and WEB-INF/classes and if
> >> properly configured builds classes from my source folder into
> >> WEB-INF/classes I would get LCR working. Is this correct?
> >>
> > Yes. Deploy as exploded and remember to turn off container
> auto-reloading.
> >
> >> Of course this goes against all the maven stuff that seems to be used by
> >> the vast majority of T5 devs.....
> >>
> > Not only T5 but vast majority of Java devs.
> >
> > Kalle
> >
> >
> >> Il 25/08/2014 07:24, Kalle Korhonen ha scritto:
> >>> You don't need the devloader for live class reloading. You need it to
> be
> >>> able to pick up classes from other locations than /lib or /classes, say
> >>> from your local Maven repo, as explained at the bottom of
> >>> http://www.eclipsetotale.com/tomcatPlugin/readmeDevLoader.html. Now,
> you
> >>> can technically use the devloader by itself by manually configuring the
> >>> devloader's configuration file but I wouldn't recommend it. (and to
> >> others,
> >>> Ivano specifically stated he wants to use Tomcat, not Jetty).
> >>>
> >>> Kalle
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it>
> >> wrote:
> >>>> Hi everybody I'm a former user of T4 but for many reasons independent
> >>>> from my will, I had to abandon Tapestry a few years ago, while I'm
> still
> >>>> maintaining some web applications.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now I want to step into T5 and I'm following the tutorial.
> >>>> I have set up under Eclipse and successfully running the tutorial.
> >>>> Before going further I would like to be sure LCR works (because
> actually
> >>>> doesn't).
> >>>>
> >>>> I have read the Kalle page on setting up tomcat but I would like to
> >>>> avoid the use of Sysdeo, because I use Eclipse+Tomcat for other
> >>>> applications and I'm used to launch Tomcat via Eclipse Debug
> >>>> Configuration.
> >>>>
> >>>> My question is: can I achieve LCR wihtout Sysdeo? Would it be enough
> to
> >>>> deploy devloader in Tomcat lib ?
> >>>>
> >>>> TIA
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> ==================================================
> >>>> dott. Ivano Mario Luberti
> >>>> Archimede Informatica societa' cooperativa a r. l.
> >>>> Sede Operativa
> >>>> Via Gereschi 36 - 56126- Pisa
> >>>> tel.: +39-050- 580959
> >>>> tel/fax: +39-050-9711344
> >>>> web: www.archicoop.it
> >>>> ==================================================
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >> --
> >> ==================================================
> >> dott. Ivano Mario Luberti
> >> Archimede Informatica societa' cooperativa a r. l.
> >> Sede Operativa
> >> Via Gereschi 36 - 56126- Pisa
> >> tel.: +39-050- 580959
> >> tel/fax: +39-050-9711344
> >> web: www.archicoop.it
> >> ==================================================
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
> >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
> >>
> >>
>
> --
> ==================================================
> dott. Ivano Mario Luberti
> Archimede Informatica societa' cooperativa a r. l.
> Sede Operativa
> Via Gereschi 36 - 56126- Pisa
> tel.: +39-050- 580959
> tel/fax: +39-050-9711344
> web: www.archicoop.it
> ==================================================
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
>
>
Re: LCR in Eclipse without Sysdeo plugin
Posted by Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it>.
Thanks Kalle....now I (hope I) have a clear path
Il 25/08/2014 07:48, Kalle Korhonen ha scritto:
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Kalle, maybe I'm starting to figuring it out.
>> So the devloader enables the container to load classes from paths
>> aoutside WEB-INF/lib and WEB-INF/classes , right?
>>
> That's what I said and that's what the linked resource said.
>
>> So if instead of the maven project layout I use the classic WTP project
>> layout that has a
>> WebContent folder which includes WEB-INF/lib and WEB-INF/classes and if
>> properly configured builds classes from my source folder into
>> WEB-INF/classes I would get LCR working. Is this correct?
>>
> Yes. Deploy as exploded and remember to turn off container auto-reloading.
>
>> Of course this goes against all the maven stuff that seems to be used by
>> the vast majority of T5 devs.....
>>
> Not only T5 but vast majority of Java devs.
>
> Kalle
>
>
>> Il 25/08/2014 07:24, Kalle Korhonen ha scritto:
>>> You don't need the devloader for live class reloading. You need it to be
>>> able to pick up classes from other locations than /lib or /classes, say
>>> from your local Maven repo, as explained at the bottom of
>>> http://www.eclipsetotale.com/tomcatPlugin/readmeDevLoader.html. Now, you
>>> can technically use the devloader by itself by manually configuring the
>>> devloader's configuration file but I wouldn't recommend it. (and to
>> others,
>>> Ivano specifically stated he wants to use Tomcat, not Jetty).
>>>
>>> Kalle
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it>
>> wrote:
>>>> Hi everybody I'm a former user of T4 but for many reasons independent
>>>> from my will, I had to abandon Tapestry a few years ago, while I'm still
>>>> maintaining some web applications.
>>>>
>>>> Now I want to step into T5 and I'm following the tutorial.
>>>> I have set up under Eclipse and successfully running the tutorial.
>>>> Before going further I would like to be sure LCR works (because actually
>>>> doesn't).
>>>>
>>>> I have read the Kalle page on setting up tomcat but I would like to
>>>> avoid the use of Sysdeo, because I use Eclipse+Tomcat for other
>>>> applications and I'm used to launch Tomcat via Eclipse Debug
>>>> Configuration.
>>>>
>>>> My question is: can I achieve LCR wihtout Sysdeo? Would it be enough to
>>>> deploy devloader in Tomcat lib ?
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ==================================================
>>>> dott. Ivano Mario Luberti
>>>> Archimede Informatica societa' cooperativa a r. l.
>>>> Sede Operativa
>>>> Via Gereschi 36 - 56126- Pisa
>>>> tel.: +39-050- 580959
>>>> tel/fax: +39-050-9711344
>>>> web: www.archicoop.it
>>>> ==================================================
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
>>>>
>>>>
>> --
>> ==================================================
>> dott. Ivano Mario Luberti
>> Archimede Informatica societa' cooperativa a r. l.
>> Sede Operativa
>> Via Gereschi 36 - 56126- Pisa
>> tel.: +39-050- 580959
>> tel/fax: +39-050-9711344
>> web: www.archicoop.it
>> ==================================================
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
>>
>>
--
==================================================
dott. Ivano Mario Luberti
Archimede Informatica societa' cooperativa a r. l.
Sede Operativa
Via Gereschi 36 - 56126- Pisa
tel.: +39-050- 580959
tel/fax: +39-050-9711344
web: www.archicoop.it
==================================================
---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: LCR in Eclipse without Sysdeo plugin
Posted by Kalle Korhonen <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it>
wrote:
> Thanks Kalle, maybe I'm starting to figuring it out.
> So the devloader enables the container to load classes from paths
> aoutside WEB-INF/lib and WEB-INF/classes , right?
>
That's what I said and that's what the linked resource said.
>
> So if instead of the maven project layout I use the classic WTP project
> layout that has a
> WebContent folder which includes WEB-INF/lib and WEB-INF/classes and if
> properly configured builds classes from my source folder into
> WEB-INF/classes I would get LCR working. Is this correct?
>
Yes. Deploy as exploded and remember to turn off container auto-reloading.
>
> Of course this goes against all the maven stuff that seems to be used by
> the vast majority of T5 devs.....
>
Not only T5 but vast majority of Java devs.
Kalle
>
> Il 25/08/2014 07:24, Kalle Korhonen ha scritto:
> > You don't need the devloader for live class reloading. You need it to be
> > able to pick up classes from other locations than /lib or /classes, say
> > from your local Maven repo, as explained at the bottom of
> > http://www.eclipsetotale.com/tomcatPlugin/readmeDevLoader.html. Now, you
> > can technically use the devloader by itself by manually configuring the
> > devloader's configuration file but I wouldn't recommend it. (and to
> others,
> > Ivano specifically stated he wants to use Tomcat, not Jetty).
> >
> > Kalle
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi everybody I'm a former user of T4 but for many reasons independent
> >> from my will, I had to abandon Tapestry a few years ago, while I'm still
> >> maintaining some web applications.
> >>
> >> Now I want to step into T5 and I'm following the tutorial.
> >> I have set up under Eclipse and successfully running the tutorial.
> >> Before going further I would like to be sure LCR works (because actually
> >> doesn't).
> >>
> >> I have read the Kalle page on setting up tomcat but I would like to
> >> avoid the use of Sysdeo, because I use Eclipse+Tomcat for other
> >> applications and I'm used to launch Tomcat via Eclipse Debug
> >> Configuration.
> >>
> >> My question is: can I achieve LCR wihtout Sysdeo? Would it be enough to
> >> deploy devloader in Tomcat lib ?
> >>
> >> TIA
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> ==================================================
> >> dott. Ivano Mario Luberti
> >> Archimede Informatica societa' cooperativa a r. l.
> >> Sede Operativa
> >> Via Gereschi 36 - 56126- Pisa
> >> tel.: +39-050- 580959
> >> tel/fax: +39-050-9711344
> >> web: www.archicoop.it
> >> ==================================================
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
> >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
> >>
> >>
>
> --
> ==================================================
> dott. Ivano Mario Luberti
> Archimede Informatica societa' cooperativa a r. l.
> Sede Operativa
> Via Gereschi 36 - 56126- Pisa
> tel.: +39-050- 580959
> tel/fax: +39-050-9711344
> web: www.archicoop.it
> ==================================================
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
>
>
Re: LCR in Eclipse without Sysdeo plugin
Posted by Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it>.
Thanks Kalle, maybe I'm starting to figuring it out.
So the devloader enables the container to load classes from paths
aoutside WEB-INF/lib and WEB-INF/classes , right?
So if instead of the maven project layout I use the classic WTP project
layout that has a
WebContent folder which includes WEB-INF/lib and WEB-INF/classes and if
properly configured builds classes from my source folder into
WEB-INF/classes I would get LCR working. Is this correct?
Of course this goes against all the maven stuff that seems to be used by
the vast majority of T5 devs.....
Il 25/08/2014 07:24, Kalle Korhonen ha scritto:
> You don't need the devloader for live class reloading. You need it to be
> able to pick up classes from other locations than /lib or /classes, say
> from your local Maven repo, as explained at the bottom of
> http://www.eclipsetotale.com/tomcatPlugin/readmeDevLoader.html. Now, you
> can technically use the devloader by itself by manually configuring the
> devloader's configuration file but I wouldn't recommend it. (and to others,
> Ivano specifically stated he wants to use Tomcat, not Jetty).
>
> Kalle
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it> wrote:
>
>> Hi everybody I'm a former user of T4 but for many reasons independent
>> from my will, I had to abandon Tapestry a few years ago, while I'm still
>> maintaining some web applications.
>>
>> Now I want to step into T5 and I'm following the tutorial.
>> I have set up under Eclipse and successfully running the tutorial.
>> Before going further I would like to be sure LCR works (because actually
>> doesn't).
>>
>> I have read the Kalle page on setting up tomcat but I would like to
>> avoid the use of Sysdeo, because I use Eclipse+Tomcat for other
>> applications and I'm used to launch Tomcat via Eclipse Debug
>> Configuration.
>>
>> My question is: can I achieve LCR wihtout Sysdeo? Would it be enough to
>> deploy devloader in Tomcat lib ?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>>
>> --
>> ==================================================
>> dott. Ivano Mario Luberti
>> Archimede Informatica societa' cooperativa a r. l.
>> Sede Operativa
>> Via Gereschi 36 - 56126- Pisa
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Re: LCR in Eclipse without Sysdeo plugin
Posted by Kalle Korhonen <ka...@gmail.com>.
You don't need the devloader for live class reloading. You need it to be
able to pick up classes from other locations than /lib or /classes, say
from your local Maven repo, as explained at the bottom of
http://www.eclipsetotale.com/tomcatPlugin/readmeDevLoader.html. Now, you
can technically use the devloader by itself by manually configuring the
devloader's configuration file but I wouldn't recommend it. (and to others,
Ivano specifically stated he wants to use Tomcat, not Jetty).
Kalle
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> Hi everybody I'm a former user of T4 but for many reasons independent
> from my will, I had to abandon Tapestry a few years ago, while I'm still
> maintaining some web applications.
>
> Now I want to step into T5 and I'm following the tutorial.
> I have set up under Eclipse and successfully running the tutorial.
> Before going further I would like to be sure LCR works (because actually
> doesn't).
>
> I have read the Kalle page on setting up tomcat but I would like to
> avoid the use of Sysdeo, because I use Eclipse+Tomcat for other
> applications and I'm used to launch Tomcat via Eclipse Debug
> Configuration.
>
> My question is: can I achieve LCR wihtout Sysdeo? Would it be enough to
> deploy devloader in Tomcat lib ?
>
> TIA
>
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Re: LCR in Eclipse without Sysdeo plugin
Posted by Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo <th...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 07:35:45 -0300, Muhammad Gelbana <m....@gmail.com>
wrote:
> What do you mean by LCR ? You can use
> https://code.google.com/p/run-jetty-run/
+1 for RunJettyRun.
> It offers server automatic restart for the server when the code is
> changed.
Tapestry's live class reloading works without a server restart: otherwise,
it wouldn't be live class reloading at all.
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Re: LCR in Eclipse without Sysdeo plugin
Posted by Chris Mylonas <ch...@opencsta.org>.
Least Cost Routing /telco :P
On 24/08/2014 8:36 pm, "Muhammad Gelbana" <m....@gmail.com> wrote:
> What do you mean by LCR ? You can use
> https://code.google.com/p/run-jetty-run/
>
> It offers server automatic restart for the server when the code is changed.
>
> *---------------------*
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>
>
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi everybody I'm a former user of T4 but for many reasons independent
> > from my will, I had to abandon Tapestry a few years ago, while I'm still
> > maintaining some web applications.
> >
> > Now I want to step into T5 and I'm following the tutorial.
> > I have set up under Eclipse and successfully running the tutorial.
> > Before going further I would like to be sure LCR works (because actually
> > doesn't).
> >
> > I have read the Kalle page on setting up tomcat but I would like to
> > avoid the use of Sysdeo, because I use Eclipse+Tomcat for other
> > applications and I'm used to launch Tomcat via Eclipse Debug
> > Configuration.
> >
> > My question is: can I achieve LCR wihtout Sysdeo? Would it be enough to
> > deploy devloader in Tomcat lib ?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> >
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Re: LCR in Eclipse without Sysdeo plugin
Posted by Chris Mylonas <ch...@opencsta.org>.
OK, thanks for follow up. I'll try manually downloading to force it and do
the eclipse test tomorrow.
On 25/08/2014 10:06 pm, "Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo" <th...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 20:38:52 -0300, Chris Mylonas <ch...@opencsta.org>
> wrote:
>
> just from the command line.
>> Same environment as before, fresh mvn generate, 5.4b6, 5.2.6 also don't
>> LCR from command line "mvn clean jetty:run"
>> 5.1.0.5 doesn't build anymore, sic "Error unzipping tapestry-core.jar"
>>
>
> This is a truncated (partially downloaded) JAR problem, so it's not
> relevant to this discussion.
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Re: LCR in Eclipse without Sysdeo plugin
Posted by Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo <th...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 20:38:52 -0300, Chris Mylonas <ch...@opencsta.org>
wrote:
> just from the command line.
> Same environment as before, fresh mvn generate, 5.4b6, 5.2.6 also don't
> LCR from command line "mvn clean jetty:run"
> 5.1.0.5 doesn't build anymore, sic "Error unzipping tapestry-core.jar"
This is a truncated (partially downloaded) JAR problem, so it's not
relevant to this discussion.
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Re: LCR in Eclipse without Sysdeo plugin
Posted by Chris Mylonas <ch...@opencsta.org>.
just from the command line.
Same environment as before, fresh mvn generate, 5.4b6, 5.2.6 also don't LCR
from command line "mvn clean jetty:run"
5.1.0.5 doesn't build anymore, sic "Error unzipping tapestry-core.jar"
I'm downloading eclipse atm, making a coffee. Will let you know in the
afternoon (Sydney) if I have better luck because it is a feature that I
would like to re-use especially with all my bootstrap template
experimenting and javascript api testing.
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo <
thiagohp@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 20:02:19 -0300, Chris Mylonas <ch...@opencsta.org>
> wrote:
>
> Confirming it is failing with a fresh mvn generate and jetty:run from the
>> command line.
>>
>> Snippets follow - jdk1.7, reload mechanic = automatic in jetty, dev mode
>> is on, osx 10.9.4
>>
>
> Try disabling automatic reloading in Jetty. Or, better yet, RunJettyRun
> plugin instead of jetty:run. Way better debugging, faster start.
>
>
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Re: LCR in Eclipse without Sysdeo plugin
Posted by Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo <th...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 20:02:19 -0300, Chris Mylonas <ch...@opencsta.org>
wrote:
> Confirming it is failing with a fresh mvn generate and jetty:run from the
> command line.
>
> Snippets follow - jdk1.7, reload mechanic = automatic in jetty, dev mode
> is on, osx 10.9.4
Try disabling automatic reloading in Jetty. Or, better yet, RunJettyRun
plugin instead of jetty:run. Way better debugging, faster start.
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Re: LCR in Eclipse without Sysdeo plugin
Posted by Chris Mylonas <ch...@opencsta.org>.
Confirming it is failing with a fresh mvn generate and jetty:run from the
command line.
Snippets follow - jdk1.7, reload mechanic = automatic in jetty, dev mode is
on, osx 10.9.4
Changing the java class to read "CM Increment clicked" doesn't get updated.
Changing the tml file to "increment normal" for the link doesn't get
updated.
neither of these options help either.
mvn -Djetty.reload=manual jetty:run
mvn -Djetty.reload=automatic -Djetty.scanIntervalSeconds=2 jetty:run
LCR isn't working for me.
Mylos-CPU:t5jpa mylo$ java -version
java version "1.7.0_55"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_55-b13)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.55-b03, mixed mode)
[INFO] Configuring Jetty for project: t5jpa Tapestry 5 Application
[INFO] Webapp source directory = /Users/mylo/Dev/t5jpa/src/main/webapp
[INFO] Reload Mechanic: automatic
[INFO] web.xml file = /Users/mylo/Dev/t5jpa/src/main/webapp/WEB-INF/web.xml
[INFO] Classes = /Users/mylo/Dev/t5jpa/target/classes
[INFO] Logging to org.slf4j.impl.SimpleLogger(org.mortbay.log) via
org.mortbay.log.Slf4jLog
[INFO] Context path = /t5jpa
[INFO] Tmp directory = determined at runtime
[INFO] Web defaults = org/mortbay/jetty/webapp/webdefault.xml
[INFO] Web overrides = none
[INFO] Webapp directory = /Users/mylo/Dev/t5jpa/src/main/webapp
[INFO] Starting jetty 6.1.16 ...
______ __ ____
/_ __/__ ____ ___ ___ / /_______ __ / __/
/ / / _ `/ _ \/ -_|_-</ __/ __/ // / /__ \
/_/ \_,_/ .__/\__/___/\__/_/ \_, / /____/
/_/ /___/ 5.3.7 (development mode)
[INFO] Started SelectChannelConnector@0.0.0.0:8080
[INFO] Started Jetty Server
[INFO] AppModule.TimingFilter Request time: 1421 ms
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Chris Mylonas <ch...@opencsta.org> wrote:
> Ha! Yes it is, and it took until a long way down the page to come across
> "LCR".
>
> It hasn't worked for my environment for months and I've been not bothered
> to restart jetty when deving. I might just troubleshoot it today!
>
> Thanks for asking
> On 25/08/2014 6:32 am, "Ivano Luberti" <lu...@archicoop.it> wrote:
>
>> Hi Thiago
>>
>> Il 24/08/2014 21:31, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo ha scritto:
>>
>> > By the way, it's the first time I've ever seen live class reloading
>> > being referred as LCR.
>> >
>>
>> http://tapestry.apache.org/class-reloading.html
>>
>>
>> isn't that an official page?
>>
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Re: LCR in Eclipse without Sysdeo plugin
Posted by Chris Mylonas <ch...@opencsta.org>.
Ha! Yes it is, and it took until a long way down the page to come across
"LCR".
It hasn't worked for my environment for months and I've been not bothered
to restart jetty when deving. I might just troubleshoot it today!
Thanks for asking
On 25/08/2014 6:32 am, "Ivano Luberti" <lu...@archicoop.it> wrote:
> Hi Thiago
>
> Il 24/08/2014 21:31, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo ha scritto:
>
> > By the way, it's the first time I've ever seen live class reloading
> > being referred as LCR.
> >
>
> http://tapestry.apache.org/class-reloading.html
>
>
> isn't that an official page?
>
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Re: LCR in Eclipse without Sysdeo plugin
Posted by Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it>.
Ola' Thiago!
Il 25/08/2014 01:28, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo ha scritto:
>
>> isn't that an official page?
>
> Yes, it is. But that doesn't mean I have all the official pages. :p
>
No but you have to admit this is not the least important one about LCR :-)
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Re: LCR in Eclipse without Sysdeo plugin
Posted by Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo <th...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 17:31:50 -0300, Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it>
wrote:
> Hi Thiago
Ciao, Ivano!
> Il 24/08/2014 21:31, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo ha scritto:
>
>> By the way, it's the first time I've ever seen live class reloading
>> being referred as LCR.
>>
>
> http://tapestry.apache.org/class-reloading.html
>
>
> isn't that an official page?
Yes, it is. But that doesn't mean I have all the official pages. :p
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Re: LCR in Eclipse without Sysdeo plugin
Posted by Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it>.
Hi Thiago
Il 24/08/2014 21:31, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo ha scritto:
> By the way, it's the first time I've ever seen live class reloading
> being referred as LCR.
>
http://tapestry.apache.org/class-reloading.html
isn't that an official page?
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Re: LCR in Eclipse without Sysdeo plugin
Posted by Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo <th...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 08:27:21 -0300, Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it>
wrote:
> And I forget to say I want to use Tomcat (this is why I mentioned the
> Sysdeo plugin)
Regardless of what you're using, for live class reloading to work you need
to configure your setup to automatically recompile classes when saved and
automatically copy the updated .class files to the classpath. RunJettyRun
does all that automatically, no configuration needed. For Tomcat, I don't
know what the options are, because I don't care for Tomcat the least.
By the way, it's the first time I've ever seen live class reloading being
referred as LCR.
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Re: LCR in Eclipse without Sysdeo plugin
Posted by Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it>.
Hi Muhammad, I have used the acronym found in Tapestry docs: Live Class
Reloading.
And I forget to say I want to use Tomcat (this is why I mentioned the
Sysdeo plugin)
Il 24/08/2014 12:35, Muhammad Gelbana ha scritto:
> What do you mean by LCR ? You can use
> https://code.google.com/p/run-jetty-run/
>
> It offers server automatic restart for the server when the code is changed.
>
> *---------------------*
> *Muhammad Gelbana*
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/mgelbana
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everybody I'm a former user of T4 but for many reasons independent
>> from my will, I had to abandon Tapestry a few years ago, while I'm still
>> maintaining some web applications.
>>
>> Now I want to step into T5 and I'm following the tutorial.
>> I have set up under Eclipse and successfully running the tutorial.
>> Before going further I would like to be sure LCR works (because actually
>> doesn't).
>>
>> I have read the Kalle page on setting up tomcat but I would like to
>> avoid the use of Sysdeo, because I use Eclipse+Tomcat for other
>> applications and I'm used to launch Tomcat via Eclipse Debug
>> Configuration.
>>
>> My question is: can I achieve LCR wihtout Sysdeo? Would it be enough to
>> deploy devloader in Tomcat lib ?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>>
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Re: LCR in Eclipse without Sysdeo plugin
Posted by Muhammad Gelbana <m....@gmail.com>.
What do you mean by LCR ? You can use
https://code.google.com/p/run-jetty-run/
It offers server automatic restart for the server when the code is changed.
*---------------------*
*Muhammad Gelbana*
http://www.linkedin.com/in/mgelbana
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Ivano Luberti <lu...@archicoop.it>
wrote:
> Hi everybody I'm a former user of T4 but for many reasons independent
> from my will, I had to abandon Tapestry a few years ago, while I'm still
> maintaining some web applications.
>
> Now I want to step into T5 and I'm following the tutorial.
> I have set up under Eclipse and successfully running the tutorial.
> Before going further I would like to be sure LCR works (because actually
> doesn't).
>
> I have read the Kalle page on setting up tomcat but I would like to
> avoid the use of Sysdeo, because I use Eclipse+Tomcat for other
> applications and I'm used to launch Tomcat via Eclipse Debug
> Configuration.
>
> My question is: can I achieve LCR wihtout Sysdeo? Would it be enough to
> deploy devloader in Tomcat lib ?
>
> TIA
>
>
> --
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