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Posted to users@kafka.apache.org by Piyush Mittal <pi...@gmail.com> on 2021/11/15 05:43:35 UTC

EOL clarification

>
> Hello Team,
>
> How can I find whether a given Kafka version is supported/EOL or not? I
> checked Archives available here
> <ht...@kafka.apache.org> and didn't
> find anything related to EOL. I found an EOL policy here
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Time+Based+Release+Plan#TimeBasedReleasePlan-WhatIsOurEOLPolicy?>
> but it's not very clear. Does last 3 versions include major version?
>
> It would be great if the team could add EOL metadata with each version
> displayed on the download page.
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Piyush Mittal
>

Re: EOL clarification

Posted by Luke Chen <sh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Piyush,
Sorry for the late reply.
Yes, there is a high possibility that there won't be any support for 2.x
release unleash high severity issue, after v3.1 released.

Thank you.

On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 7:05 PM Piyush Mittal <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Luke,
>
> One small clarification with regards to 2 most recent releases - Once v3.1
> is released, there won't be any support for 2.x.x unless special case like
> 2.6.3 https://lists.apache.org/thread/rj82rxch4tz19tjxj70v4o9kb7hsnrhb and
> teams should plan for major upgrade from 2.x.x to 3.x.x for next calendar
> year. Is that correct?
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Piyush Mittal
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 1:41 PM Luke Chen <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Piyush,
> > > As an example, let's say I am on 2.4.1 right now. If it's receiving
> > security and bug fixes then I don't see any need to upgrade to latest
> > version 3.0 or even 2.8.1
> > No, I don't think 2.4.1 will have any chance to have further release.
> > You can check this mail thread, to know why there's a 2.6.3 release:
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/rj82rxch4tz19tjxj70v4o9kb7hsnrhb
> >
> > Thank you.
> > Luke
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 3:42 PM Piyush Mittal <pi...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Luke,
> > >
> > > >Kafka only produces releases for the 2 most recent branches.
> > > EOL policy on wiki
> > > <
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Time+Based+Release+Plan#TimeBasedReleasePlan-WhatIsOurEOLPolicy
> > > ?>
> > > says three releases. Can we correct wiki?
> > >
> > > >you'll also find some releases have minor version to 2, ex: 2.6.2 (and
> > > there's going to be 2.6.3 released due to CVE)
> > > If only two versions are supported then 2.6.3 shouldn't be released?
> > Maybe
> > > I misunderstood something here. What I am looking for is whether a
> given
> > > version is supported (receive security and bug fixes) or not? As an
> > > example, let's say I am on 2.4.1 right now. If it's receiving security
> > and
> > > bug fixes then I don't see any need to upgrade to latest version 3.0 or
> > > even 2.8.1
> > >
> > > Thanks and Regards
> > > Piyush Mittal
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 12:38 PM Luke Chen <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Piyush,
> > > > Usually, Kafka only produces releases for the 2 most recent branches.
> > Ex:
> > > > We're going to release V3.1, and some fix will also back port to V3.0
> > > > branch.
> > > > So, from the download page, you can see most minor version is only up
> > to
> > > 1,
> > > > ex: 2.3.1, 2.5.1...
> > > > But that's not a strict rule, so you'll also find some releases have
> > > minor
> > > > version to 2, ex: 2.6.2 (and there's going to be 2.6.3 released due
> to
> > > CVE)
> > > >
> > > > If you want to know a minimal supported version, I'd say, 2 versions.
> > > (ex:
> > > > v3.1, v3.0)
> > > >
> > > > Please correct me if I'm wrong.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you.
> > > > Luke
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 1:44 PM Piyush Mittal <piyush.ml20@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello Team,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How can I find whether a given Kafka version is supported/EOL or
> > > not? I
> > > > > > checked Archives available here
> > > > > > <ht...@kafka.apache.org> and
> > > didn't
> > > > > > find anything related to EOL. I found an EOL policy here
> > > > > > <
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Time+Based+Release+Plan#TimeBasedReleasePlan-WhatIsOurEOLPolicy
> > > > > ?>
> > > > > > but it's not very clear. Does last 3 versions include major
> > version?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It would be great if the team could add EOL metadata with each
> > > version
> > > > > > displayed on the download page.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks and Regards
> > > > > > Piyush Mittal
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: EOL clarification

Posted by Piyush Mittal <pi...@gmail.com>.
Hi Luke,

One small clarification with regards to 2 most recent releases - Once v3.1
is released, there won't be any support for 2.x.x unless special case like
2.6.3 https://lists.apache.org/thread/rj82rxch4tz19tjxj70v4o9kb7hsnrhb and
teams should plan for major upgrade from 2.x.x to 3.x.x for next calendar
year. Is that correct?

Thanks and Regards
Piyush Mittal


On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 1:41 PM Luke Chen <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Piyush,
> > As an example, let's say I am on 2.4.1 right now. If it's receiving
> security and bug fixes then I don't see any need to upgrade to latest
> version 3.0 or even 2.8.1
> No, I don't think 2.4.1 will have any chance to have further release.
> You can check this mail thread, to know why there's a 2.6.3 release:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/rj82rxch4tz19tjxj70v4o9kb7hsnrhb
>
> Thank you.
> Luke
>
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 3:42 PM Piyush Mittal <pi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Luke,
> >
> > >Kafka only produces releases for the 2 most recent branches.
> > EOL policy on wiki
> > <
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Time+Based+Release+Plan#TimeBasedReleasePlan-WhatIsOurEOLPolicy
> > ?>
> > says three releases. Can we correct wiki?
> >
> > >you'll also find some releases have minor version to 2, ex: 2.6.2 (and
> > there's going to be 2.6.3 released due to CVE)
> > If only two versions are supported then 2.6.3 shouldn't be released?
> Maybe
> > I misunderstood something here. What I am looking for is whether a given
> > version is supported (receive security and bug fixes) or not? As an
> > example, let's say I am on 2.4.1 right now. If it's receiving security
> and
> > bug fixes then I don't see any need to upgrade to latest version 3.0 or
> > even 2.8.1
> >
> > Thanks and Regards
> > Piyush Mittal
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 12:38 PM Luke Chen <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Piyush,
> > > Usually, Kafka only produces releases for the 2 most recent branches.
> Ex:
> > > We're going to release V3.1, and some fix will also back port to V3.0
> > > branch.
> > > So, from the download page, you can see most minor version is only up
> to
> > 1,
> > > ex: 2.3.1, 2.5.1...
> > > But that's not a strict rule, so you'll also find some releases have
> > minor
> > > version to 2, ex: 2.6.2 (and there's going to be 2.6.3 released due to
> > CVE)
> > >
> > > If you want to know a minimal supported version, I'd say, 2 versions.
> > (ex:
> > > v3.1, v3.0)
> > >
> > > Please correct me if I'm wrong.
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > > Luke
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 1:44 PM Piyush Mittal <pi...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello Team,
> > > > >
> > > > > How can I find whether a given Kafka version is supported/EOL or
> > not? I
> > > > > checked Archives available here
> > > > > <ht...@kafka.apache.org> and
> > didn't
> > > > > find anything related to EOL. I found an EOL policy here
> > > > > <
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Time+Based+Release+Plan#TimeBasedReleasePlan-WhatIsOurEOLPolicy
> > > > ?>
> > > > > but it's not very clear. Does last 3 versions include major
> version?
> > > > >
> > > > > It would be great if the team could add EOL metadata with each
> > version
> > > > > displayed on the download page.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks and Regards
> > > > > Piyush Mittal
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: EOL clarification

Posted by Luke Chen <sh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Piyush,
> As an example, let's say I am on 2.4.1 right now. If it's receiving
security and bug fixes then I don't see any need to upgrade to latest
version 3.0 or even 2.8.1
No, I don't think 2.4.1 will have any chance to have further release.
You can check this mail thread, to know why there's a 2.6.3 release:
https://lists.apache.org/thread/rj82rxch4tz19tjxj70v4o9kb7hsnrhb

Thank you.
Luke

On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 3:42 PM Piyush Mittal <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Luke,
>
> >Kafka only produces releases for the 2 most recent branches.
> EOL policy on wiki
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Time+Based+Release+Plan#TimeBasedReleasePlan-WhatIsOurEOLPolicy
> ?>
> says three releases. Can we correct wiki?
>
> >you'll also find some releases have minor version to 2, ex: 2.6.2 (and
> there's going to be 2.6.3 released due to CVE)
> If only two versions are supported then 2.6.3 shouldn't be released? Maybe
> I misunderstood something here. What I am looking for is whether a given
> version is supported (receive security and bug fixes) or not? As an
> example, let's say I am on 2.4.1 right now. If it's receiving security and
> bug fixes then I don't see any need to upgrade to latest version 3.0 or
> even 2.8.1
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Piyush Mittal
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 12:38 PM Luke Chen <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Piyush,
> > Usually, Kafka only produces releases for the 2 most recent branches. Ex:
> > We're going to release V3.1, and some fix will also back port to V3.0
> > branch.
> > So, from the download page, you can see most minor version is only up to
> 1,
> > ex: 2.3.1, 2.5.1...
> > But that's not a strict rule, so you'll also find some releases have
> minor
> > version to 2, ex: 2.6.2 (and there's going to be 2.6.3 released due to
> CVE)
> >
> > If you want to know a minimal supported version, I'd say, 2 versions.
> (ex:
> > v3.1, v3.0)
> >
> > Please correct me if I'm wrong.
> >
> > Thank you.
> > Luke
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 1:44 PM Piyush Mittal <pi...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > Hello Team,
> > > >
> > > > How can I find whether a given Kafka version is supported/EOL or
> not? I
> > > > checked Archives available here
> > > > <ht...@kafka.apache.org> and
> didn't
> > > > find anything related to EOL. I found an EOL policy here
> > > > <
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Time+Based+Release+Plan#TimeBasedReleasePlan-WhatIsOurEOLPolicy
> > > ?>
> > > > but it's not very clear. Does last 3 versions include major version?
> > > >
> > > > It would be great if the team could add EOL metadata with each
> version
> > > > displayed on the download page.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks and Regards
> > > > Piyush Mittal
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: EOL clarification

Posted by Piyush Mittal <pi...@gmail.com>.
Hi Luke,

>Kafka only produces releases for the 2 most recent branches.
EOL policy on wiki
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Time+Based+Release+Plan#TimeBasedReleasePlan-WhatIsOurEOLPolicy?>
says three releases. Can we correct wiki?

>you'll also find some releases have minor version to 2, ex: 2.6.2 (and
there's going to be 2.6.3 released due to CVE)
If only two versions are supported then 2.6.3 shouldn't be released? Maybe
I misunderstood something here. What I am looking for is whether a given
version is supported (receive security and bug fixes) or not? As an
example, let's say I am on 2.4.1 right now. If it's receiving security and
bug fixes then I don't see any need to upgrade to latest version 3.0 or
even 2.8.1

Thanks and Regards
Piyush Mittal


On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 12:38 PM Luke Chen <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Piyush,
> Usually, Kafka only produces releases for the 2 most recent branches. Ex:
> We're going to release V3.1, and some fix will also back port to V3.0
> branch.
> So, from the download page, you can see most minor version is only up to 1,
> ex: 2.3.1, 2.5.1...
> But that's not a strict rule, so you'll also find some releases have minor
> version to 2, ex: 2.6.2 (and there's going to be 2.6.3 released due to CVE)
>
> If you want to know a minimal supported version, I'd say, 2 versions. (ex:
> v3.1, v3.0)
>
> Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> Thank you.
> Luke
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 1:44 PM Piyush Mittal <pi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > >
> > > Hello Team,
> > >
> > > How can I find whether a given Kafka version is supported/EOL or not? I
> > > checked Archives available here
> > > <ht...@kafka.apache.org> and didn't
> > > find anything related to EOL. I found an EOL policy here
> > > <
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Time+Based+Release+Plan#TimeBasedReleasePlan-WhatIsOurEOLPolicy
> > ?>
> > > but it's not very clear. Does last 3 versions include major version?
> > >
> > > It would be great if the team could add EOL metadata with each version
> > > displayed on the download page.
> > >
> > > Thanks and Regards
> > > Piyush Mittal
> > >
> >
>

Re: EOL clarification

Posted by Luke Chen <sh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Piyush,
Usually, Kafka only produces releases for the 2 most recent branches. Ex:
We're going to release V3.1, and some fix will also back port to V3.0
branch.
So, from the download page, you can see most minor version is only up to 1,
ex: 2.3.1, 2.5.1...
But that's not a strict rule, so you'll also find some releases have minor
version to 2, ex: 2.6.2 (and there's going to be 2.6.3 released due to CVE)

If you want to know a minimal supported version, I'd say, 2 versions. (ex:
v3.1, v3.0)

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Thank you.
Luke

On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 1:44 PM Piyush Mittal <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >
> > Hello Team,
> >
> > How can I find whether a given Kafka version is supported/EOL or not? I
> > checked Archives available here
> > <ht...@kafka.apache.org> and didn't
> > find anything related to EOL. I found an EOL policy here
> > <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Time+Based+Release+Plan#TimeBasedReleasePlan-WhatIsOurEOLPolicy
> ?>
> > but it's not very clear. Does last 3 versions include major version?
> >
> > It would be great if the team could add EOL metadata with each version
> > displayed on the download page.
> >
> > Thanks and Regards
> > Piyush Mittal
> >
>