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Help please

Using Open Office spreadsheet file and suddenly when I try to enter a number in a cell the cursor jumps to the top row cell of the same column. How can I fix this ? I'm using version 3.3 on Windows 7 operating system. Thank you.  

Re: Help please

Posted by roy <ro...@go-plus.net>.
Thanks Johhny
 all sorted now
Roy
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> On 10/06/2012 04:45 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
> ...
>> Also, 3.3 is a very old version. Even 3.4 isn't supported any more.
> ...
>
> Interesting:
> <http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html>
> [Download Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1]
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds>
> [Unofficial Developer Builds for Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1]
>
>
>
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Re: Help please

Posted by Johnny Rosenberg <gu...@gmail.com>.
2012/10/7 NoOp <gl...@sbcglobal.net>:
> On 10/06/2012 04:45 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
> ...
>> Also, 3.3 is a very old version. Even 3.4 isn't supported any more.
> ...
>
> Interesting:
> <http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html>
> [Download Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1]
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds>
> [Unofficial Developer Builds for Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1]

Yes, you're right. My bad. I am subscribed to the LibreOffice list as
well, and in this case I guess I just thought I was writing to that
list. Sorry for the confusion. LibreOffice reached 3.6 so far, which
is considered an ”unstable” version, while 3.5 is the stable one.
OpenOffice.org 3.4 ≠ LibreOffice 3.4 since they developed separately
since the ”split”.


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ

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Re: [OT] OO-dev was Re: Help please

Posted by NoOp <gl...@sbcglobal.net>.
On 10/07/2012 05:52 PM, NoOp wrote:
> On 10/07/2012 05:10 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
...
>> May be it makes sense to design a minimal desktop integration with the
>> *.desktop files and their respective images only, but no mime
>> definitions.
> 
> I do seem to recall some OOo-dev builds in the past that have done this,
> but don't have any archives available.

Sorry, I forgot to add that the deb build that I referenced above does
include a DI file: openoffice.org3.4-debian-menus_3.5-9610_all.deb and
that works well for me. But... I don't have AOo3.4 installed, so that is
probably the reason why it installed.

> 
> On a dev only version (where it installs as OO-dev (AOo-dev?)), I think
> it's a good idea to add a minimal (main menu screen) DI file. That is
> not to appease folks who don't know how to add a menu, but instead to
> test to see if the basic DI structure is working & not clashing with
> other installs (AOo, LO, MS Office etc). That way when the final comes
> out, the DI will hopefully work as expected.
>   I think it's more difficult with a Windows build; my suggestion is to
> rename the program files to awriterdev, etc. I tested that on an LO
> Windows build last year (renamed to ooowriter.exe, etc) and it worked
> just fine. Couldn't get LO devs to do anything with it though:
> <http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Change-executable-sh-names-td2108193.html>
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



Re: [OT] OO-dev was Re: Help please

Posted by NoOp <gl...@sbcglobal.net>.
On 10/07/2012 05:10 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> 
> Hi Gary,
> 
> On Sun, Oct 07, 2012 at 04:51:24PM -0700, NoOp wrote:
>> With apologies to the OP of this thread... I see you've gotten your
>> issue sorted out, so I hope that you don't mind if I side-track your
>> thread for a bit in order to sort out the OO-dev install. Thanks.
>> 
>> On 10/06/2012 08:54 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
>> > On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 05:53:01PM -0700, NoOp wrote:
...
>> 
>> Thanks Ariel. I have the deb build on this machine:
>> AOO350m1(Build:9610)  -  Rev. 1373721
>> 2012-08-16_04:25:33-Rev.1373730
>> and just downloaded and installed the RPM build on Fedora 17.
>> AOO350m1(Build:9610)  -  Rev. 1391723
>> 2012-09-30_06:33:16-Rev.1373730 - Linux i686
>> 
>> On the new RPM build installs just fine as Oo-dev 3.5.0. Well done &
>> thanks for that (OO-dev).
>> 
>> On the new RPM build no desktop-integration directory & file is
>> included. Is that on purpose, or a problem with the build? Note: It was
>> easy enough to add the soffice menu by hand, but just curious to see if
>> if was not included on purpose.
> 
> By definition, Developer Snapshots don't come with desktop integration
> (I can't recall if in OOo times they did this differently, but I guess
> it was the same, as we didn't change anything in this area).
> 
> May be it makes sense to design a minimal desktop integration with the
> *.desktop files and their respective images only, but no mime
> definitions.

I do seem to recall some OOo-dev builds in the past that have done this,
but don't have any archives available.

On a dev only version (where it installs as OO-dev (AOo-dev?)), I think
it's a good idea to add a minimal (main menu screen) DI file. That is
not to appease folks who don't know how to add a menu, but instead to
test to see if the basic DI structure is working & not clashing with
other installs (AOo, LO, MS Office etc). That way when the final comes
out, the DI will hopefully work as expected.
  I think it's more difficult with a Windows build; my suggestion is to
rename the program files to awriterdev, etc. I tested that on an LO
Windows build last year (renamed to ooowriter.exe, etc) and it worked
just fine. Couldn't get LO devs to do anything with it though:
<http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Change-executable-sh-names-td2108193.html>

Gary






Re: [OT] OO-dev was Re: Help please

Posted by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>.
Hi Gary,

On Sun, Oct 07, 2012 at 04:51:24PM -0700, NoOp wrote:
> With apologies to the OP of this thread... I see you've gotten your
> issue sorted out, so I hope that you don't mind if I side-track your
> thread for a bit in order to sort out the OO-dev install. Thanks.
> 
> On 10/06/2012 08:54 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 05:53:01PM -0700, NoOp wrote:
> ...
> >> Interesting:
> >> <http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html>
> >> [Download Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1]
> >> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds>
> >> [Unofficial Developer Builds for Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1]
> > 
> > Oh, shame on us, these "Dev.Snaps" are the 3.4.1 release. Real Developer
> > Snapshots can be found at
> > http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/r1391723/ (they install as
> > OOo Dev 3.5 without replacing the current stable installation). We
> > should start building a new Dev. Snapshot by this next week.
> 
> Thanks Ariel. I have the deb build on this machine:
> AOO350m1(Build:9610)  -  Rev. 1373721
> 2012-08-16_04:25:33-Rev.1373730
> and just downloaded and installed the RPM build on Fedora 17.
> AOO350m1(Build:9610)  -  Rev. 1391723
> 2012-09-30_06:33:16-Rev.1373730 - Linux i686
> 
> On the new RPM build installs just fine as Oo-dev 3.5.0. Well done &
> thanks for that (OO-dev).
> 
> On the new RPM build no desktop-integration directory & file is
> included. Is that on purpose, or a problem with the build? Note: It was
> easy enough to add the soffice menu by hand, but just curious to see if
> if was not included on purpose.

By definition, Developer Snapshots don't come with desktop integration
(I can't recall if in OOo times they did this differently, but I guess
it was the same, as we didn't change anything in this area).

May be it makes sense to design a minimal desktop integration with the
*.desktop files and their respective images only, but no mime
definitions.


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina

[OT] OO-dev was Re: Help please

Posted by NoOp <gl...@sbcglobal.net>.
With apologies to the OP of this thread... I see you've gotten your
issue sorted out, so I hope that you don't mind if I side-track your
thread for a bit in order to sort out the OO-dev install. Thanks.

On 10/06/2012 08:54 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 05:53:01PM -0700, NoOp wrote:
...
>> Interesting:
>> <http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html>
>> [Download Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1]
>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds>
>> [Unofficial Developer Builds for Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1]
> 
> Oh, shame on us, these "Dev.Snaps" are the 3.4.1 release. Real Developer
> Snapshots can be found at
> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/r1391723/ (they install as
> OOo Dev 3.5 without replacing the current stable installation). We
> should start building a new Dev. Snapshot by this next week.

Thanks Ariel. I have the deb build on this machine:
AOO350m1(Build:9610)  -  Rev. 1373721
2012-08-16_04:25:33-Rev.1373730
and just downloaded and installed the RPM build on Fedora 17.
AOO350m1(Build:9610)  -  Rev. 1391723
2012-09-30_06:33:16-Rev.1373730 - Linux i686

On the new RPM build installs just fine as Oo-dev 3.5.0. Well done &
thanks for that (OO-dev).

On the new RPM build no desktop-integration directory & file is
included. Is that on purpose, or a problem with the build? Note: It was
easy enough to add the soffice menu by hand, but just curious to see if
if was not included on purpose.




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Re: Help please

Posted by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>.
On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 05:53:01PM -0700, NoOp wrote:
> On 10/06/2012 04:45 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
> ...
> > Also, 3.3 is a very old version. Even 3.4 isn't supported any more.
> ...
> 
> Interesting:
> <http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html>
> [Download Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1]
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds>
> [Unofficial Developer Builds for Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1]

Oh, shame on us, these "Dev.Snaps" are the 3.4.1 release. Real Developer
Snapshots can be found at
http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/r1391723/ (they install as
OOo Dev 3.5 without replacing the current stable installation). We
should start building a new Dev. Snapshot by this next week.


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina

Re: Help please

Posted by NoOp <gl...@sbcglobal.net>.
On 10/06/2012 04:45 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
...
> Also, 3.3 is a very old version. Even 3.4 isn't supported any more.
...

Interesting:
<http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html>
[Download Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1]
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds>
[Unofficial Developer Builds for Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1]




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Re: Help please

Posted by Johnny Rosenberg <gu...@gmail.com>.
2012/10/6 Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>:
> Fred Du Sell wrote:
>>
>> Using Open Office spreadsheet file and suddenly when I try to enter a
>> number in a cell the cursor jumps to the top row cell of the same
>> column. How can I fix this ?
>
>
> As a first check, I'd suggest that you make sure that the problem is in
> OpenOffice; from what you describe, it might simply be that "Num Lock" is
> disabled in your keyboard... Just press "Num Lock" again to switch between
> numbers and page navigation.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>
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Also, 3.3 is a very old version. Even 3.4 isn't supported any more.


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ

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Re: Help please

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Fred Du Sell wrote:
> Using Open Office spreadsheet file and suddenly when I try to enter a
> number in a cell the cursor jumps to the top row cell of the same
> column. How can I fix this ?

As a first check, I'd suggest that you make sure that the problem is in 
OpenOffice; from what you describe, it might simply be that "Num Lock" 
is disabled in your keyboard... Just press "Num Lock" again to switch 
between numbers and page navigation.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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