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Posted to derby-dev@db.apache.org by Susan Cline <sl...@MeepZor.Com> on 2004/12/07 19:49:52 UTC
Derby Logo?
Hi,
I thought it would be a lot of fun and increase awareness around Derby
if we had an official "mascot" or logo that represented Apache Derby.
I'd like to propose we have a logo contest where folks can submit
entries to come up with an image for Derby.
I've looked around at the SpamAssassin, Geronimo and FOP sites to see
how they conducted their logo contests.
SpamAssassin logo site: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/LogoContest
Geronimo logo site:http://wiki.apache.org/geronimo/LogoContest
Fop logo site: http://xml.apache.org/fop/logocontest.html
Looking through their sites some of them had design requirements for the
image produced. For instance, SpamAssassin did not necessarily want
images of "blood or death" associated with their logo. What about for
Derby - do we want the 'Derby' name in the logo?
Do we want to have any design requirements or restrictions on the image
we choose for Derby, or shall we leave it wide open?
What does a Derby look like? ;-)
What about integrating the Apache feather image into the logo somehow?
Some other questions to consider:
Do we want the images in a specific format?
Some of the other projects had an SVG format requirement.
How should we submit our images?
To the mailing list(s) or upload them ... etc?
Who will judge the entries?
Everyone gets an equal vote and this determines the winner?
Everyone gets a vote but a subset of folks pick the winner?
Other thoughts?
What do folks think? Shall we have a contest?
Susan
Re: Derby Logo?
Posted by Susan Cline <sl...@MeepZor.Com>.
Iain McGinniss wrote:
> Susan Cline wrote:
>
>>
>> Do we want to have any design requirements or restrictions on the
>> image we choose for Derby, or shall we leave it wide open?
>> What does a Derby look like? ;-)
>
>
> Maybe a horse head with a cog where the brain should be? No idea how
> you'd manage to get the apache feather to fit with that though :)
No need for us to use the Apache feather - just a thought, but
if people want to use it they could.
Susan
Re: Derby Logo - first proposal?
Posted by "Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com>.
Susan Cline wrote:
> ...
> Could someone please update the logo_contest.xml page using the
> attached logo_dec09.tar?
> ...
'Tis done.
-jean
Re: Derby Logo - first proposal?
Posted by Susan Cline <sl...@MeepZor.Com>.
Susan Cline wrote:
> All of these entries are great! I'll wait for all the submissions from
> the day, update the web page, and then ask someone to commit the updated
> page the next day.
I've updated the page to reflect the entries from late yesterday through
today. If I've missed your entry, please let me know :-)
Also, I did not put them on the page in the order they were submitted to
the mailing list, just the order I felt like doing it in.
Could someone please update the logo_contest.xml page using the
attached logo_dec09.tar?
It contains:
logo_contest.xml
5 image files
Thanks,
Susan
Re: Derby Logo - first proposal?
Posted by Susan Cline <sl...@MeepZor.Com>.
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
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> How about something based on the attached?
> - --
> #ken P-)}
All of these entries are great! I'll wait for all the submissions from
the day, update the web page, and then ask someone to commit the updated
page the next day.
Susan
Re: Derby Logo - first proposal?
Posted by Rodent of Unusual Size <Ke...@Golux.Com>.
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How about something based on the attached?
- --
#ken P-)}
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Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/
"Millennium hand and shrimp!"
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Re: Derby Logo - first proposal?
Posted by Susan Cline <sl...@MeepZor.Com>.
Matt Payne wrote:
> I do I think it's a bad transmission. ---Matt
>
> On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 14:07:55 -0800, Adam Blinkinsop
> <co...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I like the idea for making it png for the contest, but nothing I've
>>got can read this file (not even Firefox recognizes it...) - anyone
>>else having a problem with the encoding?
>>
>>On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 21:26:00 +0100, Andrej Tibaut
On Windows I used Microsoft Photo Editor to view it without a problem.
Susan
RE: Derby Logo - first proposal?
Posted by Andrej Tibaut <an...@uni-mb.si>.
OK, check the JPG version now.
Andrej
�-----Original Message-----
�From: Matt Payne [mailto:matt.payne@gmail.com]
�Sent: 8. december 2004 23:11
�To: Derby Discussion; Adam Blinkinsop
�Subject: Re: Derby Logo - first proposal?
�
�I do I think it's a bad transmission. ---Matt
�
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�<co...@gmail.com> wrote:
�> I like the idea for making it png for the contest, but nothing I've
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�>
�> On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 21:26:00 +0100, Andrej Tibaut
�>
�>
�> <an...@uni-mb.si> wrote:
�> > I would say leave it open...
�> > I have drafted the attached logo which I can explain in
�the following way:
�> > - lines are like tracks, letters are like horses
�> > - lines are coloured which means wide use
�> > - letters at different levels can also mean a melody
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�> > Pro et contra?
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�> > Andrej Tibaut
�>
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Re: Derby Logo - first proposal?
Posted by Matt Payne <ma...@gmail.com>.
I do I think it's a bad transmission. ---Matt
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 14:07:55 -0800, Adam Blinkinsop
<co...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I like the idea for making it png for the contest, but nothing I've
> got can read this file (not even Firefox recognizes it...) - anyone
> else having a problem with the encoding?
>
> On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 21:26:00 +0100, Andrej Tibaut
>
>
> <an...@uni-mb.si> wrote:
> > I would say leave it open...
> > I have drafted the attached logo which I can explain in the following way:
> > - lines are like tracks, letters are like horses
> > - lines are coloured which means wide use
> > - letters at different levels can also mean a melody (although then lines
> > should be horizontally)..because Derby indeed functions like a melody.
> >
> > Pro et contra?
> >
> > Andrej Tibaut
>
Re: Derby Logo - first proposal?
Posted by Adam Blinkinsop <co...@gmail.com>.
I like the idea for making it png for the contest, but nothing I've
got can read this file (not even Firefox recognizes it...) - anyone
else having a problem with the encoding?
On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 21:26:00 +0100, Andrej Tibaut
<an...@uni-mb.si> wrote:
> I would say leave it open...
> I have drafted the attached logo which I can explain in the following way:
> - lines are like tracks, letters are like horses
> - lines are coloured which means wide use
> - letters at different levels can also mean a melody (although then lines
> should be horizontally)..because Derby indeed functions like a melody.
>
> Pro et contra?
>
> Andrej Tibaut
Re: Derby Logo - first proposal?
Posted by Matt Payne <ma...@gmail.com>.
Very nice!
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 20:41:38 -0800, Adam Blinkinsop
<co...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Submission attached: in JPG (good?) format.
>
> - Adam
>
> (p.s. The feather in the hat?)
>
> On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 19:40:33 -0800, Jean T. Anderson
>
>
> <jt...@bristowhill.com> wrote:
> > OK, the logo page is at
> >
> > http://incubator.apache.org/derby/logo_contest.html
> >
> > Thanks for posting the page, Susan, and feel free to post updates.
> >
> > -jean
> >
> >
> >
> > Susan Cline wrote:
> >
> > > I've created a page that can be used for the Derby web site called
> > > logo_contest.xml. Attached is logo.tar which contains this file and the
> > > first entry from Andrej as logo_entry_1.jpg. logo_contest.xml refers
> > > to the image in the standard forrest place for images, the
> > > resources/images directory under the documentation directory.
> > >
> > > Below is the change I made to site.xml to include the Logo Contest as
> > > part of the 'Home' tab, if that's possible.
> > >
> > > <community label="Community" tab="home">
> > > <derby_comm label="Get Involved!" href="derby_comm.html"/>
> > > <derby_mail label="Mailing Lists" href="derby_mail.html"/>
> > > <derby_bugs label="BUGS" href="DerbyBugGuidelines.html"/>
> > > <derby_todo label="To-Do" href="DerbyToDo.html"/>
> > > <derby_int label="Integration Topics" href="papers/" />
> > > <derby_logo label="Logo Contest" href="logo_contest.html" />
> > > </community>
> > >
> > > Could a committer put this on the Derby web site please?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Susan
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> "...indeed, I think of any computer purchase below 200 dollars as
> virtually nonexistent, and feel comfortable making a virtually
> unlimited number of these transactions. I have emerged from Fry's
> heaped high with silicon, as our primitive forebears once lumbered
> from caves weighed down by exotic furs." - Tycho, www.penny-arcade.com
>
>
>
Re: Derby Logo - first proposal?
Posted by Adam Blinkinsop <co...@gmail.com>.
hey, nice!
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 10:26:42 -0500, Rodent of Unusual Size
<Ke...@golux.com> wrote:
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>
> Adam Blinkinsop wrote:
>
> > Submission attached: in JPG (good?) format.
> >
> > - Adam
> >
> > (p.s. The feather in the hat?)
>
> Do you mean the attached?
> - --
> #ken P-)}
>
> Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/
> Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/
>
> "Millennium hand and shrimp!"
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--
"...indeed, I think of any computer purchase below 200 dollars as
virtually nonexistent, and feel comfortable making a virtually
unlimited number of these transactions. I have emerged from Fry's
heaped high with silicon, as our primitive forebears once lumbered
from caves weighed down by exotic furs." - Tycho, www.penny-arcade.com
RE: Derby Logo - first proposal?
Posted by Andrej Tibaut <an...@uni-mb.si>.
One better than the other!
Andrej
�-----Original Message-----
�From: Rodent of Unusual Size [mailto:Ken.Coar@Golux.Com]
�Sent: 9. december 2004 16:27
�To: Derby Discussion
�Subject: Re: Derby Logo - first proposal?
�
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�
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Re: Derby Logo - first proposal?
Posted by Rodent of Unusual Size <Ke...@Golux.Com>.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Adam Blinkinsop wrote:
> Submission attached: in JPG (good?) format.
>
> - Adam
>
> (p.s. The feather in the hat?)
Do you mean the attached?
- --
#ken P-)}
Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/
Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/
"Millennium hand and shrimp!"
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Re: Derby Logo - first proposal?
Posted by Adam Blinkinsop <co...@gmail.com>.
Submission attached: in JPG (good?) format.
- Adam
(p.s. The feather in the hat?)
On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 19:40:33 -0800, Jean T. Anderson
<jt...@bristowhill.com> wrote:
> OK, the logo page is at
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/derby/logo_contest.html
>
> Thanks for posting the page, Susan, and feel free to post updates.
>
> -jean
>
>
>
> Susan Cline wrote:
>
> > I've created a page that can be used for the Derby web site called
> > logo_contest.xml. Attached is logo.tar which contains this file and the
> > first entry from Andrej as logo_entry_1.jpg. logo_contest.xml refers
> > to the image in the standard forrest place for images, the
> > resources/images directory under the documentation directory.
> >
> > Below is the change I made to site.xml to include the Logo Contest as
> > part of the 'Home' tab, if that's possible.
> >
> > <community label="Community" tab="home">
> > <derby_comm label="Get Involved!" href="derby_comm.html"/>
> > <derby_mail label="Mailing Lists" href="derby_mail.html"/>
> > <derby_bugs label="BUGS" href="DerbyBugGuidelines.html"/>
> > <derby_todo label="To-Do" href="DerbyToDo.html"/>
> > <derby_int label="Integration Topics" href="papers/" />
> > <derby_logo label="Logo Contest" href="logo_contest.html" />
> > </community>
> >
> > Could a committer put this on the Derby web site please?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Susan
>
>
--
"...indeed, I think of any computer purchase below 200 dollars as
virtually nonexistent, and feel comfortable making a virtually
unlimited number of these transactions. I have emerged from Fry's
heaped high with silicon, as our primitive forebears once lumbered
from caves weighed down by exotic furs." - Tycho, www.penny-arcade.com
Re: Derby Logo - first proposal?
Posted by "Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com>.
OK, the logo page is at
http://incubator.apache.org/derby/logo_contest.html
Thanks for posting the page, Susan, and feel free to post updates.
-jean
Susan Cline wrote:
> I've created a page that can be used for the Derby web site called
> logo_contest.xml. Attached is logo.tar which contains this file and the
> first entry from Andrej as logo_entry_1.jpg. logo_contest.xml refers
> to the image in the standard forrest place for images, the
> resources/images directory under the documentation directory.
>
> Below is the change I made to site.xml to include the Logo Contest as
> part of the 'Home' tab, if that's possible.
>
> <community label="Community" tab="home">
> <derby_comm label="Get Involved!" href="derby_comm.html"/>
> <derby_mail label="Mailing Lists" href="derby_mail.html"/>
> <derby_bugs label="BUGS" href="DerbyBugGuidelines.html"/>
> <derby_todo label="To-Do" href="DerbyToDo.html"/>
> <derby_int label="Integration Topics" href="papers/" />
> <derby_logo label="Logo Contest" href="logo_contest.html" />
> </community>
>
> Could a committer put this on the Derby web site please?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Susan
Re: Derby Logo - first proposal?
Posted by "Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com>.
Susan Cline wrote:
> I've created a page that can be used for the Derby web site called
> logo_contest.xml. Attached is logo.tar which contains this file and the
> first entry from Andrej as logo_entry_1.jpg.
> ...
> Could a committer put this on the Derby web site please?
thanks! I'll take care of it.
-jean
Re: Derby Logo - first proposal?
Posted by Susan Cline <sl...@MeepZor.Com>.
Susan Cline wrote:
> It looks like I need to come up with a page for the Derby web site
> where the entries can be placed. I'll work on one and ask a committer
> to put it up. Especially given some folks are having a hard time
> viewing the image.
I've created a page that can be used for the Derby web site called
logo_contest.xml. Attached is logo.tar which contains this file and the
first entry from Andrej as logo_entry_1.jpg. logo_contest.xml refers
to the image in the standard forrest place for images, the
resources/images directory under the documentation directory.
Below is the change I made to site.xml to include the Logo Contest as
part of the 'Home' tab, if that's possible.
<community label="Community" tab="home">
<derby_comm label="Get Involved!" href="derby_comm.html"/>
<derby_mail label="Mailing Lists" href="derby_mail.html"/>
<derby_bugs label="BUGS" href="DerbyBugGuidelines.html"/>
<derby_todo label="To-Do" href="DerbyToDo.html"/>
<derby_int label="Integration Topics" href="papers/" />
<derby_logo label="Logo Contest" href="logo_contest.html" />
</community>
Could a committer put this on the Derby web site please?
Thanks,
Susan
Re: Derby Logo - first proposal?
Posted by Susan Cline <sl...@MeepZor.Com>.
Andrej Tibaut wrote:
> I would say leave it open...
> I have drafted the attached logo which I can explain in the following way:
> - lines are like tracks, letters are like horses
> - lines are coloured which means wide use
> - letters at different levels can also mean a melody (although then lines
> should be horizontally)..because Derby indeed functions like a melody.
It looks like I need to come up with a page for the Derby web site
where the entries can be placed. I'll work on one and ask a committer
to put it up. Especially given some folks are having a hard time
viewing the image.
Susan
RE: Derby Logo - first proposal?
Posted by Andrej Tibaut <an...@uni-mb.si>.
I would say leave it open...
I have drafted the attached logo which I can explain in the following way:
- lines are like tracks, letters are like horses
- lines are coloured which means wide use
- letters at different levels can also mean a melody (although then lines
should be horizontally)..because Derby indeed functions like a melody.
Pro et contra?
Andrej Tibaut
�-----Original Message-----
�From: Iain McGinniss [mailto:iainmcgin@dsl.pipex.com]
�Sent: 8. december 2004 20:47
�To: Derby Discussion
�Subject: Re: Derby Logo?
�
�Susan Cline wrote:
�
�>
�> Do we want to have any design requirements or restrictions on the
�> image we choose for Derby, or shall we leave it wide open?
�> What does a Derby look like? ;-)
�
�Maybe a horse head with a cog where the brain should be? No
�idea how you'd manage to get the apache feather to fit with
�that though :)
�
�Iain McGinniss
�
Re: Derby Logo?
Posted by Iain McGinniss <ia...@dsl.pipex.com>.
Susan Cline wrote:
>
> Do we want to have any design requirements or restrictions on the
> image we choose for Derby, or shall we leave it wide open?
> What does a Derby look like? ;-)
Maybe a horse head with a cog where the brain should be? No idea how
you'd manage to get the apache feather to fit with that though :)
Iain McGinniss
Re: Derby Logo?
Posted by Susan Cline <sl...@MeepZor.Com>.
Adam Blinkinsop wrote:
> >Do we want the images in a specific format?
> >Some of the other projects had an SVG format requirement.
>
> There needs to be format requirements: if only to make sure the judges
> (whomever they might be) have the equipment to view the submitted
> images.
Good point.
>
> >How should we submit our images?
> >To the mailing list(s) or upload them ... etc?
>
> Mailing list problems: stuffing inboxes. Uploading problems: where to?
Right, we don't have an upload site set up.
>
> >Who will judge the entries?
> >Everyone gets an equal vote and this determines the winner?
> >Everyone gets a vote but a subset of folks pick the winner?
> >Other thoughts?
>
> How do source releases work? Straight vote?
>
I believe so, but I'm not 100% positive on this.
Susan
Re: Derby Logo?
Posted by Adam Blinkinsop <co...@gmail.com>.
>Do we want to have any design requirements or restrictions on the image
>we choose for Derby, or shall we leave it wide open?
>What does a Derby look like? ;-)
I'm thinking either the hat or the Kentucky (though a derby hat would
be pretty cool as a stylized logo...)
>What about integrating the Apache feather image into the logo somehow?
Feather in the hat?
>Some other questions to consider:
>Do we want the images in a specific format?
>Some of the other projects had an SVG format requirement.
There needs to be format requirements: if only to make sure the judges
(whomever they might be) have the equipment to view the submitted
images.
>How should we submit our images?
>To the mailing list(s) or upload them ... etc?
Mailing list problems: stuffing inboxes. Uploading problems: where to?
>Who will judge the entries?
>Everyone gets an equal vote and this determines the winner?
>Everyone gets a vote but a subset of folks pick the winner?
>Other thoughts?
How do source releases work? Straight vote?