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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> on 2011/12/14 07:51:21 UTC
[NL][Proposal] structure and process
Hi all,
I tried to rewrite the native language page,
http://ooo-site.apache.org/projects/native-lang.html, and to define
structure and process of Native Language Projects within Apache
OpenOffice.org (incubating) project.
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Native+Language+Projects
-----
Native Language Projects
A Native Language Project has a native language list. They discuss
about their activity on the list. Their activities include
localization, translation, quality assurance, documentation, user
support and marketing etc. For these activities they can use the site
(ooo-site.apache.org/language-code), the wiki
(wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/language-code) and the pootle
server (translate.apache.org/projects/OOo/).
If you want to create your native language project, take the following steps.
1. You subscribe the project list, ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org.
2. Show your enthusiasm on the list
3. Become a committer and PPMC member if someone recommends you and
PPMC approves you as a committer and PPMC member.
4. Then on the project list you will propose a name of your native
language list. It should be looks like
ooo-xxxxx-(language-code)@incubator.apache.org where xxxxx will be a
word you like. For example Japanese Native Language Project chose
"general" for "xxxxx" so that its list name is
ooo-general-ja@incubator.apahce.org.
5. If no objection against your proposal, then file an issue titled
"Create ooo-xxxxx-(language-code)@incubator.apache.org"
6. When the list is created, the Apache OpenOffice.org (incubating)
project may help announce it using ooo-announce list if we have it
7. Or you can tell your friends or write a blog about your native
language list and encourage your native language users and
contributors to subscribe the list.
-----
If a current committer or a PPMC member wants to create her/his native
language project and to be a moderator for its native language list,
then it will be easy for them to create it and start their native
language activity because they can skip step 1, 2 and 3.
:)
Thanks,
khirano
--
khirano@apache.org
OpenOffice.org[TM](incubating)|The Free and Open Productivity Suite
Apache incubator
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
Re: [NL][Proposal] structure and process
Posted by Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Ariel, Eric, Jürgen and all,
2011/12/14 Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>:
> On 12/14/11 1:23 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Eric, *,
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 01:14:16PM +0100, eric b wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Le 14 déc. 11 à 07:51, Kazunari Hirano a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I tried to rewrite the native language page,
>>>> http://ooo-site.apache.org/projects/native-lang.html,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When I read : http://ooo-site.apache.org/projects/native-lang.html
>>>
>>>
>>> ... FYI, the french people listed are NO longer lead of anything,
>>> and are publicaly gone to the TDF, and resigned.
>>>
>>> I'd suggest to remove them, for obvious reasons.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd suggest to remove the whole column; this is a new home, there are no
>> more Project Leads - something I find rather healthy :)
>
>
> +1
>
> Juergen
Sure. That is my proposal, see
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Native+Language+Projects
Thanks,
khirano
--
khirano@apache.org
OpenOffice.org[TM](incubating)|The Free and Open Productivity Suite
Apache incubator
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
Re: [NL][Proposal] structure and process
Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
On 12/14/11 1:23 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
>
> Hi Eric, *,
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 01:14:16PM +0100, eric b wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Le 14 déc. 11 à 07:51, Kazunari Hirano a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I tried to rewrite the native language page,
>>> http://ooo-site.apache.org/projects/native-lang.html,
>>
>>
>> When I read : http://ooo-site.apache.org/projects/native-lang.html
>>
>>
>> ... FYI, the french people listed are NO longer lead of anything,
>> and are publicaly gone to the TDF, and resigned.
>>
>> I'd suggest to remove them, for obvious reasons.
>
>
> I'd suggest to remove the whole column; this is a new home, there are no
> more Project Leads - something I find rather healthy :)
+1
Juergen
Re: [NL][Proposal] structure and process
Posted by eric b <er...@free.fr>.
Le 14 déc. 11 à 13:23, Ariel Constenla-Haile a écrit :
> Hi Eric, *,
>
Hi Ariel,
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 01:14:16PM +0100, eric b wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Le 14 déc. 11 à 07:51, Kazunari Hirano a écrit :
>>> Hi all,
>>> I tried to rewrite the native language page,
>>> http://ooo-site.apache.org/projects/native-lang.html,
>>
>> When I read : http://ooo-site.apache.org/projects/native-lang.html
>> ... FYI, the french people listed are NO longer lead of anything,
>> and are publicaly gone to the TDF, and resigned. I'd suggest to
>> remove them, for obvious reasons.
>
> I'd suggest to remove the whole column;
+1
> this is a new home, there are no more Project Leads - something I
> find rather healthy :)
Uff, you saved my day :-)
Regards,
Eric
--
qɔᴉɹə
Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page
L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org
Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news
Re: [NL][Proposal] structure and process
Posted by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>.
Hi Eric, *,
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 01:14:16PM +0100, eric b wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Le 14 déc. 11 à 07:51, Kazunari Hirano a écrit :
>
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I tried to rewrite the native language page,
> >http://ooo-site.apache.org/projects/native-lang.html,
>
>
> When I read : http://ooo-site.apache.org/projects/native-lang.html
>
>
> ... FYI, the french people listed are NO longer lead of anything,
> and are publicaly gone to the TDF, and resigned.
>
> I'd suggest to remove them, for obvious reasons.
I'd suggest to remove the whole column; this is a new home, there are no
more Project Leads - something I find rather healthy :)
Regards
--
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina
Re: [NL][Proposal] structure and process
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Khirano-san,
On Dec 16, 2011, at 8:58 PM, Kazunari Hirano wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
> Thanks.
You are welcome!
>
> On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> BTW - I like Khirano's statements. I would only alter (2) - I would add after show your enthusiasm. "and others will help you."
>
> I like yours. May I take it?
YES! Please!
> I have added "and others will help you."
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Native+Language+Projects
> :)
HTH,
Dave
> Thanks,
> khirano
> --
> khirano@apache.org
> OpenOffice.org[TM](incubating)|The Free and Open Productivity Suite
> Apache incubator
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
Re: [NL][Proposal] structure and process
Posted by Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Dave,
Thanks.
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
> BTW - I like Khirano's statements. I would only alter (2) - I would add after show your enthusiasm. "and others will help you."
I like yours. May I take it? I have added "and others will help you."
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Native+Language+Projects
:)
Thanks,
khirano
--
khirano@apache.org
OpenOffice.org[TM](incubating)|The Free and Open Productivity Suite
Apache incubator
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
Re: [NL][Proposal] structure and process
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Dec 14, 2011, at 7:14 AM, eric b wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Le 14 déc. 11 à 07:51, Kazunari Hirano a écrit :
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I tried to rewrite the native language page,
>> http://ooo-site.apache.org/projects/native-lang.html,
>
>
> When I read : http://ooo-site.apache.org/projects/native-lang.html
>
>
> ... FYI, the french people listed are NO longer lead of anything, and are publicaly gone to the TDF, and resigned.
>
> I'd suggest to remove them, for obvious reasons.
You are a committer, please feel free. You should be able to use the Bookmarklet and remove people. If someone comes forward with a problem we'll know it was you, if not then it is done :-)
> And if we look for other countries, it is obviously wrong too : most of them are gone to the TDF.
>
>
> It this intended ?
I certainly don't know. Others do, make your changes.
I don't have a problem with self-declared leaders who are project committers/PPMC members, take charge!
BTW - I like Khirano's statements. I would only alter (2) - I would add after show your enthusiasm. "and others will help you."
Regards,
Dave
>
> Eric Bachard
>
>
>
>
>> and to define
>> structure and process of Native Language Projects within Apache
>> OpenOffice.org (incubating) project.
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Native+Language+Projects
>> -----
>> Native Language Projects
>>
>> A Native Language Project has a native language list. They discuss
>> about their activity on the list. Their activities include
>> localization, translation, quality assurance, documentation, user
>> support and marketing etc. For these activities they can use the site
>> (ooo-site.apache.org/language-code), the wiki
>> (wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/language-code) and the pootle
>> server (translate.apache.org/projects/OOo/).
>>
>> If you want to create your native language project, take the following steps.
>>
>> 1. You subscribe the project list, ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org.
>> 2. Show your enthusiasm on the list
>> 3. Become a committer and PPMC member if someone recommends you and
>> PPMC approves you as a committer and PPMC member.
>> 4. Then on the project list you will propose a name of your native
>> language list. It should be looks like
>> ooo-xxxxx-(language-code)@incubator.apache.org where xxxxx will be a
>> word you like. For example Japanese Native Language Project chose
>> "general" for "xxxxx" so that its list name is
>> ooo-general-ja@incubator.apahce.org.
>> 5. If no objection against your proposal, then file an issue titled
>> "Create ooo-xxxxx-(language-code)@incubator.apache.org"
>> 6. When the list is created, the Apache OpenOffice.org (incubating)
>> project may help announce it using ooo-announce list if we have it
>> 7. Or you can tell your friends or write a blog about your native
>> language list and encourage your native language users and
>> contributors to subscribe the list.
>> -----
>>
>> If a current committer or a PPMC member wants to create her/his native
>> language project and to be a moderator for its native language list,
>> then it will be easy for them to create it and start their native
>> language activity because they can skip step 1, 2 and 3.
>> :)
>> Thanks,
>> khirano
>> --
>> khirano@apache.org
>> OpenOffice.org[TM](incubating)|The Free and Open Productivity Suite
>> Apache incubator
>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
>
> --
> qɔᴉɹə
> Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page
> L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org
> Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news
>
>
>
>
>
Re: [NL][Proposal] structure and process
Posted by eric b <er...@free.fr>.
Hi,
Le 14 déc. 11 à 07:51, Kazunari Hirano a écrit :
> Hi all,
>
> I tried to rewrite the native language page,
> http://ooo-site.apache.org/projects/native-lang.html,
When I read : http://ooo-site.apache.org/projects/native-lang.html
... FYI, the french people listed are NO longer lead of anything, and
are publicaly gone to the TDF, and resigned.
I'd suggest to remove them, for obvious reasons.
And if we look for other countries, it is obviously wrong too : most
of them are gone to the TDF.
It this intended ?
Eric Bachard
> and to define
> structure and process of Native Language Projects within Apache
> OpenOffice.org (incubating) project.
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Native+Language
> +Projects
> -----
> Native Language Projects
>
> A Native Language Project has a native language list. They discuss
> about their activity on the list. Their activities include
> localization, translation, quality assurance, documentation, user
> support and marketing etc. For these activities they can use the site
> (ooo-site.apache.org/language-code), the wiki
> (wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/language-code) and the pootle
> server (translate.apache.org/projects/OOo/).
>
> If you want to create your native language project, take the
> following steps.
>
> 1. You subscribe the project list, ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org.
> 2. Show your enthusiasm on the list
> 3. Become a committer and PPMC member if someone recommends you and
> PPMC approves you as a committer and PPMC member.
> 4. Then on the project list you will propose a name of your native
> language list. It should be looks like
> ooo-xxxxx-(language-code)@incubator.apache.org where xxxxx will be a
> word you like. For example Japanese Native Language Project chose
> "general" for "xxxxx" so that its list name is
> ooo-general-ja@incubator.apahce.org.
> 5. If no objection against your proposal, then file an issue titled
> "Create ooo-xxxxx-(language-code)@incubator.apache.org"
> 6. When the list is created, the Apache OpenOffice.org (incubating)
> project may help announce it using ooo-announce list if we have it
> 7. Or you can tell your friends or write a blog about your native
> language list and encourage your native language users and
> contributors to subscribe the list.
> -----
>
> If a current committer or a PPMC member wants to create her/his native
> language project and to be a moderator for its native language list,
> then it will be easy for them to create it and start their native
> language activity because they can skip step 1, 2 and 3.
> :)
> Thanks,
> khirano
> --
> khirano@apache.org
> OpenOffice.org[TM](incubating)|The Free and Open Productivity Suite
> Apache incubator
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
--
qɔᴉɹə
Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page
L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org
Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news