Re: Presentation proposals for ApacheCon EU (23rd to 27th March) - CFP ends on October 24th

[Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com>]

[Posting the response to dev, where it deserves to be]

Stefan Seelmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> maybe LDAP alone and just browsing a bit in not exciting enough. 
Sure. Even if we may have a slot if we announce a 2.0.
> What
> about setting up a real environment, using ApacheDS as backend and
> Studio as frontent? Some ideas:
> - Samba
> - SSO with Kerberos, SAML or OpenID
> - Authentication and authorization for httpd, Tomcat, Geronimo or Jetspeed
>   
That could be a sexy prezo. Kerberos could be a hit, as there are not 
that much impl outhere, especially in the OSS field. But there is a lot 
to do to make it easy and sexy (=> addition to studio to help manage 
servers, clients, etc). Anyway, this is certainly valuable
> Hm, last ApacheCon we had this discussion about using ApacheDS for ASF
> infrastructure. What about showing some real scenarios?
> - User database for SVN or Jira or Confluence?
>   
Yep. Another good idea. I have drafted someething like OC and AT for 
Apache, but we need more (some store procs, for instance). Nothing that 
can't be finished by april.
> Another idea is to show if LDAP could be useful within a SOA (I have no
> idea yet). But therefore we need a DSML gateway first, I guess.
>   
It's almost there. And, yes, that's also an idea, but a bit more complex.
> One more idea I have is how to use LDAP for Java persistance
> (Object-LDAP-Mapping). However there is no really good solution today,
> at least no one from Apache. 
It may come. We have some ideas slowly cooked in the kitchen, but not 
yet ready :)
> There Spring-LDAP,
Yuk...
>  I also played a bit with
> Datanucleaus (ex-JPOX), it is a nice approach to use JDO. It works for
> single objects and also for simple object graphs (User-Groups). However
> it is not really usable today as its performance if very poor.
>   
I guess !
> Maybe it makes sense to take a look to our roadmap, so that we could
> focus on features that will be implemented till March.
>
> I hope others have better ideas?
>   
Better ideas, I don't know, but I was thinking about presenting a 
complete solution to design, build and test a LDAP installation. The 
idea is to help a team to manage a LDAP integration project, from the 
beginning (OC and AT definition with LdapStudio Schema manager), local 
tests with ADS embedded into Studio, Unit tests defined into studio and 
generated in order to be part of a project (with the ChangeLog system we 
now have plus the tests system we also have), and some load tests with 
JMeter. It's all about integration, but we have all the bricks. Could be 
a good example on how to use ADS and Studio plus other Apache tools to 
provide a good set of solutions for LDAP integration.

I will try to draft something around that.

Feel free to propose something too : I think that ADS for Apache might 
be a good prezo, as it may be a good use case for many.

Thanks Stefan !

-- 
--
cordialement, regards,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com
directory.apache.org

Re: Presentation proposals for ApacheCon EU (23rd to 27th March) - CFP ends on October 24th

[Pierre-Arnaud Marcelot <pa...@marcelot.net>]

Hi,

I almost missed the deadline. Hopefully Emmanuel was there to remind me it
was today.

Here's the presentation I've just proposed:
Title: LDAP development in Entreprise with Apache Directory Studio

Abstract: Apache Directory Studio, runner-up for the "Best Open Source RCP
Application" at the Eclipse Community Awards 2008, is a complete directory
tooling platform intended to be used with any LDAP server however it is
particularly designed for use the Apache Directory Server.

Following a simple real-world case study (a simple authorization WebService
based on LDAP) all along the presentation we'll talk about the following
topics:
- Creation and launch of a new LDAP Server (an Apache Directory Server)
within Studio
- Definition and injection of new schema elements for our case study
- Writing and running of LDAP Unit tests with Studio, as well as their
integration to the build of the application

This talk will help you get started with Apache Directory Studio and
understand how you can use it for your LDAP development in Entreprise.

We've had a little talk with Emmanuel and we think Stefan's proposals
deserves a dedicated presentation.
This could really be interesting and it would double our chances to get one
presentation accepted for Studio.
Do you want to do it Stefan?

Regards,
Pierre-Arnaud

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:27 AM, Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com>wrote:

> [Posting the response to dev, where it deserves to be]
>
> Stefan Seelmann wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> maybe LDAP alone and just browsing a bit in not exciting enough.
>>
> Sure. Even if we may have a slot if we announce a 2.0.
>
>> What
>> about setting up a real environment, using ApacheDS as backend and
>> Studio as frontent? Some ideas:
>> - Samba
>> - SSO with Kerberos, SAML or OpenID
>> - Authentication and authorization for httpd, Tomcat, Geronimo or Jetspeed
>>
>>
> That could be a sexy prezo. Kerberos could be a hit, as there are not that
> much impl outhere, especially in the OSS field. But there is a lot to do to
> make it easy and sexy (=> addition to studio to help manage servers,
> clients, etc). Anyway, this is certainly valuable
>
>> Hm, last ApacheCon we had this discussion about using ApacheDS for ASF
>> infrastructure. What about showing some real scenarios?
>> - User database for SVN or Jira or Confluence?
>>
>>
> Yep. Another good idea. I have drafted someething like OC and AT for
> Apache, but we need more (some store procs, for instance). Nothing that
> can't be finished by april.
>
>> Another idea is to show if LDAP could be useful within a SOA (I have no
>> idea yet). But therefore we need a DSML gateway first, I guess.
>>
>>
> It's almost there. And, yes, that's also an idea, but a bit more complex.
>
>> One more idea I have is how to use LDAP for Java persistance
>> (Object-LDAP-Mapping). However there is no really good solution today,
>> at least no one from Apache.
>>
> It may come. We have some ideas slowly cooked in the kitchen, but not yet
> ready :)
>
>> There Spring-LDAP,
>>
> Yuk...
>
>>  I also played a bit with
>> Datanucleaus (ex-JPOX), it is a nice approach to use JDO. It works for
>> single objects and also for simple object graphs (User-Groups). However
>> it is not really usable today as its performance if very poor.
>>
>>
> I guess !
>
>> Maybe it makes sense to take a look to our roadmap, so that we could
>> focus on features that will be implemented till March.
>>
>> I hope others have better ideas?
>>
>>
> Better ideas, I don't know, but I was thinking about presenting a complete
> solution to design, build and test a LDAP installation. The idea is to help
> a team to manage a LDAP integration project, from the beginning (OC and AT
> definition with LdapStudio Schema manager), local tests with ADS embedded
> into Studio, Unit tests defined into studio and generated in order to be
> part of a project (with the ChangeLog system we now have plus the tests
> system we also have), and some load tests with JMeter. It's all about
> integration, but we have all the bricks. Could be a good example on how to
> use ADS and Studio plus other Apache tools to provide a good set of
> solutions for LDAP integration.
>
> I will try to draft something around that.
>
> Feel free to propose something too : I think that ADS for Apache might be a
> good prezo, as it may be a good use case for many.
>
> Thanks Stefan !
>
> --
> --
> cordialement, regards,
> Emmanuel Lécharny
> www.iktek.com
> directory.apache.org
>
>
>