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Posted to users@directory.apache.org by Ricardo Román Brenes <ro...@gmail.com> on 2011/03/16 18:25:35 UTC

Apacheds for authetication in Debian

Hi guys and girls =)

Im Ricardo from Costa Rica; we're building a small cluster here and im in
need of a software that can be used as a centralized server for users.

I had fedora-ds but i had to remove it since i need the machine where it was
installed for ohter purposes and i found this lovely apache directory.

My problem is taht i have to configure this server i have installed to be
able to serve usernames and passwords to the cluster nodes.

I have installed the software and apacheds is running on port 389.

What do i have to do to make a base DC and users that follow the
PosixAccount in LDAP?

THanks for your help.

-rica

Re: Apacheds for authetication in Debian

Posted by Alex Karasulu <ak...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Ricardo Román Brenes <
roman.ricardo@gmail.com> wrote:

> In fact i understand that all of the following are servers that implemente
> the LDAP protocol:
> fedora-ds
> 389-ds
> apache-ds
> openldap
> ...
>
> and that the apache directory studio, phpldapadmin, webmin, ldapadmin...
> are
> just a GUI for managing the server.
>
> Im not giong to buy a book.
>

We understand. Reading manuals and technical documentation takes a lot of
time and energy that not everyone may have.

If you need to do this fast without too much time investment you might want
to consider contacting a commercial vendor like Oracle to see if they can
deliver a solution for you without your having to deal with any of the
details yourself.

Good luck,
Alex

Re: Apacheds for authetication in Debian

Posted by Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@apache.org>.
On 3/17/11 5:38 PM, Ricardo Román Brenes wrote:
> im not gonna start a fight with some kind of stranger over the internet but.
> i was precise and explicit, this aint for home work and im not crying for
> help, i asked though the offial media of support of this software.

"My problem is taht i have to configure this server i have installed to be

able to serve usernames and passwords to the cluster nodes.

I have installed the software and apacheds is running on port 389.

What do i have to do to make a base DC and users that follow the
PosixAccount in LDAP?"

It's neither precise, nor explicit. *Assuming* you had a previous Fedora-DS server installed, I *thought* you were using it to manage your users. If so, the only thing missing was to enable the NIS schema in ApacheDS, and of course inject your entries into the server. My answer was based on assumptions, not facts.


Then you posted
"i have changed the m-disabled to FALSE as it said on the link emmanuelle
showed me (thanks) but now what? How do i make something like "dc=myown" and
then make a user there following the PosixAccount?"

which makes no sense to me. Its vague, non explicit and impossible to answer with accuracy. In fact, here again, I *assumed* you needed some tight directions on LDAP, not on ApacheDS.

I'm not blaming you here, not I want to start a fight, I have no time for that i'm just trying to drive you out of a dead-end : the most precious resource in OSS is time, so please be explicit, and you not only will save my time, but also yours.

Thanks to understand my POV.



-- 
Regards,
Cordialement,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com

Re: Apacheds for authetication in Debian

Posted by Kiran Ayyagari <ka...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Ricardo Román Brenes
<ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> im not gonna start a fight with some kind of stranger over the internet but.
> i was precise and explicit, this aint for home work and im not crying for
> help, i asked though the offial media of support of this software.
>
no use of such words like 'fight' and 'stranger', note that we are
volunteers if you want us to help you you MUST follow the rules
pointed below. Period.

> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@apache.org>wrote:
>
>> On 3/17/11 5:25 PM, Ricardo Román Brenes wrote:
>>
>>> Im not giong to buy a book.
>>>
>> Fine.
>>
>> But may be you can read some free doco, like this one :
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>
>> Could help in your case.
>>
>> Especially those paragraphs :
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#beprecise
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#explicit
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#homework
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#prune
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Cordialement,
>> Emmanuel Lécharny
>> www.iktek.com
>>
>>
>



-- 
Kiran Ayyagari

Re: Apacheds for authetication in Debian

Posted by Ricardo Román Brenes <ro...@gmail.com>.
im not gonna start a fight with some kind of stranger over the internet but.
i was precise and explicit, this aint for home work and im not crying for
help, i asked though the offial media of support of this software.

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@apache.org>wrote:

> On 3/17/11 5:25 PM, Ricardo Román Brenes wrote:
>
>> Im not giong to buy a book.
>>
> Fine.
>
> But may be you can read some free doco, like this one :
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> Could help in your case.
>
> Especially those paragraphs :
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#beprecise
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#explicit
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#homework
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#prune
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Cordialement,
> Emmanuel Lécharny
> www.iktek.com
>
>

Re: Apacheds for authetication in Debian

Posted by Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@apache.org>.
On 3/17/11 5:25 PM, Ricardo Román Brenes wrote:
> Im not giong to buy a book.
Fine.

But may be you can read some free doco, like this one :
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Could help in your case.

Especially those paragraphs :
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#beprecise
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#explicit
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#homework
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#prune

-- 
Regards,
Cordialement,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com

Re: Apacheds for authetication in Debian

Posted by Ricardo Román Brenes <ro...@gmail.com>.
In fact i understand that all of the following are servers that implemente
the LDAP protocol:
fedora-ds
389-ds
apache-ds
openldap
...

and that the apache directory studio, phpldapadmin, webmin, ldapadmin... are
just a GUI for managing the server.

Im not giong to buy a book.

thanks bye.

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@apache.org>wrote:

> On 3/17/11 4:26 PM, Ricardo Román Brenes wrote:
>
>> i really dont see where in the poor documentation says that... and i have
>> searched in google for 4 days. Apacheds is in fact my last try, since ive
>> tried slapd, fedora-ds, webmin, phpldapadmin, and none have worked
>>
>
> May be you'll have to buy one book about LDAP basis first. (
> http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Deploying-Directory-Architecture-Development/dp/1578700701,
> for instance).
>
> It seems you are confusing some terminology. slapd, fedora-ds are LDAP
> servers, when webmin and phpldapadmin are LDAP UI. What you are looking for
> is some help about LDAP usage and integration, which is not something easy
> to provide by mail.
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Cordialement,
> Emmanuel Lécharny
> www.iktek.com
>
>

Re: Apacheds for authetication in Debian

Posted by Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@apache.org>.
On 3/17/11 4:26 PM, Ricardo Román Brenes wrote:
> i really dont see where in the poor documentation says that... and i have
> searched in google for 4 days. Apacheds is in fact my last try, since ive
> tried slapd, fedora-ds, webmin, phpldapadmin, and none have worked

May be you'll have to buy one book about LDAP basis first. 
(http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Deploying-Directory-Architecture-Development/dp/1578700701, 
for instance).

It seems you are confusing some terminology. slapd, fedora-ds are LDAP 
servers, when webmin and phpldapadmin are LDAP UI. What you are looking 
for is some help about LDAP usage and integration, which is not 
something easy to provide by mail.


-- 
Regards,
Cordialement,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com

Re: Apacheds for authetication in Debian

Posted by Ricardo Román Brenes <ro...@gmail.com>.
i really dont see where in the poor documentation says that... and i have
searched in google for 4 days. Apacheds is in fact my last try, since ive
tried slapd, fedora-ds, webmin, phpldapadmin, and none have worked

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@apache.org>wrote:

> On 3/16/11 9:32 PM, Ricardo Román Brenes wrote:
>
>> ok so, help me out a bit more out here please;
>>
>> i have changed the m-disabled to FALSE as it said on the link emmanuelle
>> showed me (thanks) but now what? How do i make something like "dc=myown"
>> and
>> then make a user there following the PosixAccount?
>>
>
> Well, I could drive you by the hand here, but frankly, the web site
> contains a lot of information describing how to use the server on this page
> :
>
> http://directory.apache.org/apacheds/1.5/apacheds-v15-basic-users-guide.html
>
> And for the other part (ie make Apacheds the base for your linux
> athentication), you have a lot of documentation on the web. A bit of
> googling helps.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Cordialement,
> Emmanuel Lécharny
> www.iktek.com
>
>

Re: Apacheds for authetication in Debian

Posted by Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@apache.org>.
On 3/16/11 9:32 PM, Ricardo Román Brenes wrote:
> ok so, help me out a bit more out here please;
>
> i have changed the m-disabled to FALSE as it said on the link emmanuelle
> showed me (thanks) but now what? How do i make something like "dc=myown" and
> then make a user there following the PosixAccount?

Well, I could drive you by the hand here, but frankly, the web site 
contains a lot of information describing how to use the server on this 
page :
http://directory.apache.org/apacheds/1.5/apacheds-v15-basic-users-guide.html

And for the other part (ie make Apacheds the base for your linux 
athentication), you have a lot of documentation on the web. A bit of 
googling helps.



-- 
Regards,
Cordialement,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com

Re: Apacheds for authetication in Debian

Posted by Ricardo Román Brenes <ro...@gmail.com>.
ok so, help me out a bit more out here please;

i have changed the m-disabled to FALSE as it said on the link emmanuelle
showed me (thanks) but now what? How do i make something like "dc=myown" and
then make a user there following the PosixAccount?

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com>wrote:

> On 3/16/11 6:25 PM, Ricardo Román Brenes wrote:
>
>> Hi guys and girls =)
>>
> Hi Ricardo
>
>  Im Ricardo from Costa Rica; we're building a small cluster here and im in
>> need of a software that can be used as a centralized server for users.
>>
>> I had fedora-ds but i had to remove it since i need the machine where it
>> was
>> installed for ohter purposes and i found this lovely apache directory.
>>
>> My problem is taht i have to configure this server i have installed to be
>> able to serve usernames and passwords to the cluster nodes.
>>
>> I have installed the software and apacheds is running on port 389.
>>
>> What do i have to do to make a base DC and users that follow the
>> PosixAccount in LDAP?
>>
> You have to enable the 'nis' schema in ApacheDS, otherwise you won't be
> able to use the PosixAccount attributeType. This can be done with Apache
> Directory Studio (see
> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.directory.user/369)
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Cordialement,
> Emmanuel Lécharny
> www.iktek.com
>
>

Re: Apacheds for authetication in Debian

Posted by Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com>.
On 3/16/11 6:25 PM, Ricardo Román Brenes wrote:
> Hi guys and girls =)
Hi Ricardo
> Im Ricardo from Costa Rica; we're building a small cluster here and im in
> need of a software that can be used as a centralized server for users.
>
> I had fedora-ds but i had to remove it since i need the machine where it was
> installed for ohter purposes and i found this lovely apache directory.
>
> My problem is taht i have to configure this server i have installed to be
> able to serve usernames and passwords to the cluster nodes.
>
> I have installed the software and apacheds is running on port 389.
>
> What do i have to do to make a base DC and users that follow the
> PosixAccount in LDAP?
You have to enable the 'nis' schema in ApacheDS, otherwise you won't be 
able to use the PosixAccount attributeType. This can be done with Apache 
Directory Studio (see 
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.directory.user/369)


-- 
Regards,
Cordialement,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com