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Posted to user@mahout.apache.org by Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org> on 2010/09/30 16:13:57 UTC
Mahout usage
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20100929005052/en/Karmasphere-Study-Shows-Hadoop-Projects-Start-Skunkworks pegs Mahout usage at 14% of 102 Hadoop devs surveyed. Granted, its a small sample, but still pretty cool to see the word is getting out! Now, if we could just get people to add to the Powered By page!
-Grant
Re: Mahout usage
Posted by Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org>.
On Oct 1, 2010, at 9:37 AM, Sean Owen wrote:
> Yes I know (directly) of 5 companies using Mahout for recommenders, and only
> 1 allows it to be mentioned -- Mippin. There are of course more that aren't
> known to me.
Likewise, recommenders have the most usage, which makes sense b/c it's the most mature at this point. I also know of one large online music retailer that uses some of our other stuff for recommendations, but...
Twitter has hinted at usage at various conferences (NoSQLEU, I believe) and the Hadoop World interview Kevin Weil did makes a point of saying they employ a Mahout committer, i.e. Jake. (http://www.cloudera.com/blog/2010/09/twitter-analytics-lead-kevin-weil-and-a-presenter-at-hadoop-world-interviewed/). Perhaps his talk at HW will shed some light on it.
Based on my inbox, I know the job requests for it are definitely picking up as well.
>
> In several cases, the people who built the system don't work directly for
> the company. They're fine with mentioning it, but it's not really their
> place or worth their time to push on the ultimate company for clearance.
>
We should get a "Powered By" logo up on our site for people to use.
> There are a number of interesting names on the @mahout.apache.org mailing
> lists...
Indeed.
>
> On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Isabel Drost <is...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> I'm working on a few... I know they are out there, as they email in
>>> private.
>>
>> Same here: One huge fear that people seem to have is to reveal the
>> inner workings of their system not only to the public but also to
>> potential competitors by putting their name on our list.
>>
>> Isabel
>>
>>
--------------------------
Grant Ingersoll
http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct 7-8
Re: Mahout usage
Posted by Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org>.
On Oct 2, 2010, at 3:34 AM, Sean Owen wrote:
> I'm also aware of a number of papers which at least used the code to crank
> out some results for other research:
> http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=mahout+'machine+learning'
Very cool. Didn't think to look there.
>
> On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 4:12 AM, Lance Norskog <go...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> One of the northern European govt. studios (I think Finland) published a
>> general paper. They were doing text mining/research on subtitles.
>>
>> Subtitles offer a more natural chopped-up form of language than formal
>> grammatical writing. That could be a fun dataset. I don't know of any legal
>> way to collect them.
>>
>>
--------------------------
Grant Ingersoll
http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct 7-8
Re: Mahout usage
Posted by Sean Owen <sr...@gmail.com>.
I'm also aware of a number of papers which at least used the code to crank
out some results for other research:
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=mahout+'machine+learning'
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 4:12 AM, Lance Norskog <go...@gmail.com> wrote:
> One of the northern European govt. studios (I think Finland) published a
> general paper. They were doing text mining/research on subtitles.
>
> Subtitles offer a more natural chopped-up form of language than formal
> grammatical writing. That could be a fun dataset. I don't know of any legal
> way to collect them.
>
>
Re: Mahout usage
Posted by Lance Norskog <go...@gmail.com>.
One of the northern European govt. studios (I think Finland) published a
general paper. They were doing text mining/research on subtitles.
Subtitles offer a more natural chopped-up form of language than formal
grammatical writing. That could be a fun dataset. I don't know of any
legal way to collect them.
Sebastian Schelter wrote:
> I can only confirm what Sean said, I have also seen companies use Mahout
> not willing to talk about it publicly.
>
> However I became aware of an interesting usecase via twitter recently,
> the Netherlands Institute for Sound and Vision
> (http://instituut.beeldengeluid.nl/index.aspx?ChapterID=8532) is going
> to use Mahout to enrich its archives with recommendations. I was
> promised more details at the beginning of next year.
>
> --sebastian
>
> Am 01.10.2010 15:37, schrieb Sean Owen:
>
>> Yes I know (directly) of 5 companies using Mahout for recommenders, and only
>> 1 allows it to be mentioned -- Mippin. There are of course more that aren't
>> known to me.
>>
>> In several cases, the people who built the system don't work directly for
>> the company. They're fine with mentioning it, but it's not really their
>> place or worth their time to push on the ultimate company for clearance.
>>
>> There are a number of interesting names on the @mahout.apache.org mailing
>> lists...
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Isabel Drost<is...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 Grant Ingersoll<gs...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm working on a few... I know they are out there, as they email in
>>>> private.
>>>>
>>> Same here: One huge fear that people seem to have is to reveal the
>>> inner workings of their system not only to the public but also to
>>> potential competitors by putting their name on our list.
>>>
>>> Isabel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Mahout usage
Posted by Sebastian Schelter <ss...@apache.org>.
I can only confirm what Sean said, I have also seen companies use Mahout
not willing to talk about it publicly.
However I became aware of an interesting usecase via twitter recently,
the Netherlands Institute for Sound and Vision
(http://instituut.beeldengeluid.nl/index.aspx?ChapterID=8532) is going
to use Mahout to enrich its archives with recommendations. I was
promised more details at the beginning of next year.
--sebastian
Am 01.10.2010 15:37, schrieb Sean Owen:
> Yes I know (directly) of 5 companies using Mahout for recommenders, and only
> 1 allows it to be mentioned -- Mippin. There are of course more that aren't
> known to me.
>
> In several cases, the people who built the system don't work directly for
> the company. They're fine with mentioning it, but it's not really their
> place or worth their time to push on the ultimate company for clearance.
>
> There are a number of interesting names on the @mahout.apache.org mailing
> lists...
>
> On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Isabel Drost <is...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> I'm working on a few... I know they are out there, as they email in
>>> private.
>>
>> Same here: One huge fear that people seem to have is to reveal the
>> inner workings of their system not only to the public but also to
>> potential competitors by putting their name on our list.
>>
>> Isabel
>>
>>
>
Re: Mahout usage
Posted by Steven Bourke <sb...@gmail.com>.
I attended ACM RecSys (http://recsys.acm.org/2010/) this week and came
across a number of people who used it. Lots of people had heard of it and
had some intention of trying it out.
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Sean Owen <sr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes I know (directly) of 5 companies using Mahout for recommenders, and
> only
> 1 allows it to be mentioned -- Mippin. There are of course more that aren't
> known to me.
>
> In several cases, the people who built the system don't work directly for
> the company. They're fine with mentioning it, but it's not really their
> place or worth their time to push on the ultimate company for clearance.
>
> There are a number of interesting names on the @mahout.apache.org mailing
> lists...
>
> On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Isabel Drost <is...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > I'm working on a few... I know they are out there, as they email in
> > > private.
> >
> > Same here: One huge fear that people seem to have is to reveal the
> > inner workings of their system not only to the public but also to
> > potential competitors by putting their name on our list.
> >
> > Isabel
> >
> >
>
Re: Mahout usage
Posted by Sean Owen <sr...@gmail.com>.
Yes I know (directly) of 5 companies using Mahout for recommenders, and only
1 allows it to be mentioned -- Mippin. There are of course more that aren't
known to me.
In several cases, the people who built the system don't work directly for
the company. They're fine with mentioning it, but it's not really their
place or worth their time to push on the ultimate company for clearance.
There are a number of interesting names on the @mahout.apache.org mailing
lists...
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Isabel Drost <is...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org> wrote:
> > I'm working on a few... I know they are out there, as they email in
> > private.
>
> Same here: One huge fear that people seem to have is to reveal the
> inner workings of their system not only to the public but also to
> potential competitors by putting their name on our list.
>
> Isabel
>
>
Re: Mahout usage
Posted by Isabel Drost <is...@apache.org>.
On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org> wrote:
> I'm working on a few... I know they are out there, as they email in
> private.
Same here: One huge fear that people seem to have is to reveal the
inner workings of their system not only to the public but also to
potential competitors by putting their name on our list.
Isabel
Re: Mahout usage
Posted by Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org>.
On Oct 1, 2010, at 4:34 AM, Isabel Drost wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Now, if we could just get people to add to the Powered By page!
>
> Anyone ever successfully convinced a Mahout (or Lucene etc.) user to put
> their name on the Powered By? I'd be interested in learning more on the
> arguments that worked for others...
I'm working on a few... I know they are out there, as they email in private.
Re: Mahout usage
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
The best argument I have seen (with one powered-by sticker still pending) is
that it
helps with recruiting.
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 1:34 AM, Isabel Drost <is...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Now, if we could just get people to add to the Powered By page!
>
> Anyone ever successfully convinced a Mahout (or Lucene etc.) user to put
> their name on the Powered By? I'd be interested in learning more on the
> arguments that worked for others...
Re: Mahout usage
Posted by Robin Anil <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On Oct 1, 2010, at 5:08 AM, Robin Anil wrote:
>
> > -user +dev
> >
> > well, can we get maven logs to see how developers worldwide are building.
> > That would give us an idea of the exact binary usage. I guess Apache
> Chairs
> > and PMCs ought to be able to see them ?
> > @Grant @Sean ?
>
> Huh? Not sure what you are asking. I don't think there is any accurate
> way of saying how many downloads there are. We do have Google Analytics
> setup, which committers have access to, right?
>
>
I am talking about the apache maven repo. Where we push our artifacts. Their
weblogs could tell the ips requesting mahout-0.3-core.jar etc right?
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Isabel Drost <is...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>> Now, if we could just get people to add to the Powered By page!
> >>
> >> Anyone ever successfully convinced a Mahout (or Lucene etc.) user to put
> >> their name on the Powered By? I'd be interested in learning more on the
> >> arguments that worked for others...
> >>
> >>
> >> Isabel
> >>
>
> --------------------------
> Grant Ingersoll
> http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct 7-8
>
>
Re: Mahout usage
Posted by Isabel Drost <is...@apache.org>.
On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Oct 1, 2010, at 5:08 AM, Robin Anil wrote:
>
> > -user +dev
> >
> > well, can we get maven logs to see how developers worldwide are
> > building. That would give us an idea of the exact binary usage. I
> > guess Apache Chairs and PMCs ought to be able to see them ?
> > @Grant @Sean ?
>
> Huh? Not sure what you are asking.
I think what Robin is hinting at is that as we publish our artifacts to
the Apache Maven repository it should be possible to get a rough
estimate of the number of people at least tinkering with Mahout from
the repository's statistics. Though that of course only counts
those developers working with Maven (or Ivy).
> I don't think there is any accurate way of saying how many downloads
> there are.
At least it's hard to come up with a reliable number of real
Mahout users when looking at downloads only...
Isabel
Re: Mahout usage
Posted by Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org>.
On Oct 1, 2010, at 5:08 AM, Robin Anil wrote:
> -user +dev
>
> well, can we get maven logs to see how developers worldwide are building.
> That would give us an idea of the exact binary usage. I guess Apache Chairs
> and PMCs ought to be able to see them ?
> @Grant @Sean ?
Huh? Not sure what you are asking. I don't think there is any accurate way of saying how many downloads there are. We do have Google Analytics setup, which committers have access to, right?
>
> On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Isabel Drost <is...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Now, if we could just get people to add to the Powered By page!
>>
>> Anyone ever successfully convinced a Mahout (or Lucene etc.) user to put
>> their name on the Powered By? I'd be interested in learning more on the
>> arguments that worked for others...
>>
>>
>> Isabel
>>
--------------------------
Grant Ingersoll
http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct 7-8
Re: Mahout usage
Posted by Robin Anil <ro...@gmail.com>.
-user +dev
well, can we get maven logs to see how developers worldwide are building.
That would give us an idea of the exact binary usage. I guess Apache Chairs
and PMCs ought to be able to see them ?
@Grant @Sean ?
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Isabel Drost <is...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Now, if we could just get people to add to the Powered By page!
>
> Anyone ever successfully convinced a Mahout (or Lucene etc.) user to put
> their name on the Powered By? I'd be interested in learning more on the
> arguments that worked for others...
>
>
> Isabel
>
Re: Mahout usage
Posted by Isabel Drost <is...@apache.org>.
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org> wrote:
> Now, if we could just get people to add to the Powered By page!
Anyone ever successfully convinced a Mahout (or Lucene etc.) user to put
their name on the Powered By? I'd be interested in learning more on the
arguments that worked for others...
Isabel
Re: Mahout usage
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
Wow. And 24% planning to use it.
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org>wrote:
>
> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20100929005052/en/Karmasphere-Study-Shows-Hadoop-Projects-Start-Skunkworkspegs Mahout usage at 14% of 102 Hadoop devs surveyed. Granted, its a small
> sample, but still pretty cool to see the word is getting out! Now, if we
> could just get people to add to the Powered By page!
>
> -Grant