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Re: visual editor still missing ?
Hi
I have left Flex since Adobe announced not to support visual design in
flex4.7
I saw that flex is not dead and have many improvments with flex 4.12
*Is there a way to have a visual design in flex4.12 ? (complex layouts
really are very hard to be done without this feature): is there an
aletrnative ?*
regards
Chmielewski Yarek
Proxymis Multimedia <http://www.proxymis.com/>
24 rue de la Cité 59800 Lille France
tel:00 333 2031 9229
Re: visual editor still missing ?
Posted by "piotr.zarzycki" <pi...@gmail.com>.
Hi Proxymis,
On the apache flex dev mailing list there is some discussion about that. You
will find some links refer to your question.
Link 1: http://bit.ly/1hlBJLr
Link 2: http://bit.ly/1nrKHhE
Piotr
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Re: visual editor still missing ?
Posted by Proxymis <co...@proxymis.com>.
how do yo do that ?
(the test runner)
Regards
Chmielewski Yarek
Proxymis Multimedia <http://www.proxymis.com>
24 rue de la Cité 59800 Lille France
tel:00 333 2031 9229
2014-03-15 22:56 GMT+01:00 Justin Ransom Dallas <ju...@gmail.com>:
> If i remember correctly, you can still test visual components in the test
> runner.
>
> On Saturday, March 15, 2014, Vincent Sotto <ds...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > if you try to start designing in code isntead of wysiwig you put
> everthing
> > in groups vertical/horizontal/tilemuch better than puting x and y values
> > into objects which is harder to maintain
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Proxymis <contact@proxymis.com
> <javascript:;>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > ok.. let say in complex UI, view design is useless - I don't really
> agree
> > > with that.
> > > Since you don't even see the avaible component list, you just choose a
> no
> > > appropriate one !
> > >
> > > 1) You cannot remember ALL existing Flex components. IN flex4.7 builder
> > you
> > > don't even see the exiting components list !
> > >
> > > Then imagine you have a complex project with dozens and dozens of
> > modules,
> > > components etc..
> > > 2) How to check the design of the component you are working at without
> > > having to compile it all and losing time ?
> > >
> > > I really think many people have dropped flex (or continue to use
> flex4.6)
> > > because of that.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > but what about testing them ?
> > >
> > > Do you need to compile a WHOLE application
> > >
> > > Chmielewski Yarek
> > > Proxymis Multimedia <http://www.proxymis.com>
> > > 24 rue de la Cité 59800 Lille France
> > > tel:00 333 2031 9229
> > >
> > >
> > > 2014-03-15 11:32 GMT+01:00 piotrz <piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>
> > >:
> > >
> > > > I agree with Arne. When you working on some complex UI the design
> view
> > is
> > > > totally useless.
> > > >
> > > > Piotr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > Apache Flex Committer
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> > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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>
Re: visual editor still missing ?
Posted by Justin Ransom Dallas <ju...@gmail.com>.
If i remember correctly, you can still test visual components in the test
runner.
On Saturday, March 15, 2014, Vincent Sotto <ds...@gmail.com> wrote:
> if you try to start designing in code isntead of wysiwig you put everthing
> in groups vertical/horizontal/tilemuch better than puting x and y values
> into objects which is harder to maintain
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Proxymis <contact@proxymis.com<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > ok.. let say in complex UI, view design is useless - I don't really agree
> > with that.
> > Since you don't even see the avaible component list, you just choose a no
> > appropriate one !
> >
> > 1) You cannot remember ALL existing Flex components. IN flex4.7 builder
> you
> > don't even see the exiting components list !
> >
> > Then imagine you have a complex project with dozens and dozens of
> modules,
> > components etc..
> > 2) How to check the design of the component you are working at without
> > having to compile it all and losing time ?
> >
> > I really think many people have dropped flex (or continue to use flex4.6)
> > because of that.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > but what about testing them ?
> >
> > Do you need to compile a WHOLE application
> >
> > Chmielewski Yarek
> > Proxymis Multimedia <http://www.proxymis.com>
> > 24 rue de la Cité 59800 Lille France
> > tel:00 333 2031 9229
> >
> >
> > 2014-03-15 11:32 GMT+01:00 piotrz <piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com<javascript:;>
> >:
> >
> > > I agree with Arne. When you working on some complex UI the design view
> is
> > > totally useless.
> > >
> > > Piotr
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----
> > > Apache Flex Committer
> > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > > --
> > > View this message in context:
> > >
> >
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> > >
> >
>
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RE: visual editor still missing ?
Posted by Saul DIaz <cr...@gmail.com>.
Yes. I complete agreed with you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Vincent Sotto [mailto:dsreiluke@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 2:41 PM
To: users@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: visual editor still missing ?
if you try to start designing in code isntead of wysiwig you put everthing
in groups vertical/horizontal/tilemuch better than puting x and y values
into objects which is harder to maintain
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Proxymis <co...@proxymis.com> wrote:
> ok.. let say in complex UI, view design is useless - I don't really
> agree with that.
> Since you don't even see the avaible component list, you just choose a
> no appropriate one !
>
> 1) You cannot remember ALL existing Flex components. IN flex4.7
> builder you don't even see the exiting components list !
>
> Then imagine you have a complex project with dozens and dozens of
> modules, components etc..
> 2) How to check the design of the component you are working at without
> having to compile it all and losing time ?
>
> I really think many people have dropped flex (or continue to use
> flex4.6) because of that.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> but what about testing them ?
>
> Do you need to compile a WHOLE application
>
> Chmielewski Yarek
> Proxymis Multimedia <http://www.proxymis.com>
> 24 rue de la Cité 59800 Lille France
> tel:00 333 2031 9229
>
>
> 2014-03-15 11:32 GMT+01:00 piotrz <pi...@gmail.com>:
>
> > I agree with Arne. When you working on some complex UI the design
> > view is totally useless.
> >
> > Piotr
> >
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Apache Flex Committer
> > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> >
> http://apache-flex-users.2333346.n4.nabble.com/Re-visual-editor-still-
> missing-tp5546p5549.html
> > Sent from the Apache Flex Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
>
Re: visual editor still missing ?
Posted by Vincent Sotto <ds...@gmail.com>.
if you try to start designing in code isntead of wysiwig you put everthing
in groups vertical/horizontal/tilemuch better than puting x and y values
into objects which is harder to maintain
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Proxymis <co...@proxymis.com> wrote:
> ok.. let say in complex UI, view design is useless - I don't really agree
> with that.
> Since you don't even see the avaible component list, you just choose a no
> appropriate one !
>
> 1) You cannot remember ALL existing Flex components. IN flex4.7 builder you
> don't even see the exiting components list !
>
> Then imagine you have a complex project with dozens and dozens of modules,
> components etc..
> 2) How to check the design of the component you are working at without
> having to compile it all and losing time ?
>
> I really think many people have dropped flex (or continue to use flex4.6)
> because of that.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> but what about testing them ?
>
> Do you need to compile a WHOLE application
>
> Chmielewski Yarek
> Proxymis Multimedia <http://www.proxymis.com>
> 24 rue de la Cité 59800 Lille France
> tel:00 333 2031 9229
>
>
> 2014-03-15 11:32 GMT+01:00 piotrz <pi...@gmail.com>:
>
> > I agree with Arne. When you working on some complex UI the design view is
> > totally useless.
> >
> > Piotr
> >
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Apache Flex Committer
> > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> >
> http://apache-flex-users.2333346.n4.nabble.com/Re-visual-editor-still-missing-tp5546p5549.html
> > Sent from the Apache Flex Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
>
Re: visual editor still missing ?
Posted by Proxymis <co...@proxymis.com>.
ok.. let say in complex UI, view design is useless - I don't really agree
with that.
Since you don't even see the avaible component list, you just choose a no
appropriate one !
1) You cannot remember ALL existing Flex components. IN flex4.7 builder you
don't even see the exiting components list !
Then imagine you have a complex project with dozens and dozens of modules,
components etc..
2) How to check the design of the component you are working at without
having to compile it all and losing time ?
I really think many people have dropped flex (or continue to use flex4.6)
because of that.
but what about testing them ?
Do you need to compile a WHOLE application
Chmielewski Yarek
Proxymis Multimedia <http://www.proxymis.com>
24 rue de la Cité 59800 Lille France
tel:00 333 2031 9229
2014-03-15 11:32 GMT+01:00 piotrz <pi...@gmail.com>:
> I agree with Arne. When you working on some complex UI the design view is
> totally useless.
>
> Piotr
>
>
>
> -----
> Apache Flex Committer
> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://apache-flex-users.2333346.n4.nabble.com/Re-visual-editor-still-missing-tp5546p5549.html
> Sent from the Apache Flex Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
Re: visual editor still missing ?
Posted by piotrz <pi...@gmail.com>.
I agree with Arne. When you working on some complex UI the design view is
totally useless.
Piotr
-----
Apache Flex Committer
piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
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Re: visual editor still missing ?
Posted by Arne Broedel <ar...@googlemail.com>.
I personally stopped working with it long time before adobe abandoned it. I
think if you do a lot of layouting in code you see the picture in your
mind. I was much slower with the wysiwyg then with plain mxml. I think that
was the case for many others too.
But other designers I know really do miss it and definitely the wysiwyg was
a great starting point for beginners.
IntelliJ has one, but I think its not up to date, probably not working with
4.12 (but I'm not sure).
Some developers said that it is hard work to keep it in sync with new
releases of the sdk.
What I would love to see is something simpler than in Flash Builder 4.6
just for wireframing the layout with placeholders not really for designing
the application.
2014-03-15 10:18 GMT+01:00 Proxymis <co...@proxymis.com>:
> Hi
> I have left Flex since Adobe announced not to support visual design in
> flex4.7
>
> I saw that flex is not dead and have many improvments with flex 4.12
>
> *Is there a way to have a visual design in flex4.12 ? (complex layouts
> really are very hard to be done without this feature): is there an
> aletrnative ?*
>
> regards
>
> Chmielewski Yarek
> Proxymis Multimedia <http://www.proxymis.com/>
> 24 rue de la Cité 59800 Lille France
> tel:00 333 2031 9229
>
Re: visual editor still missing ?
Posted by Scott Matheson <sm...@intralinks.com>.
I am still on FB 4.6 I like the visual element sometimes
I tend to built complex UI as stand alone components in code moving a pixel plump down etc
However when using renders and viewstack etc the visual element stops adding value
One point I have lots if skins created with vectors elements, I am finding lining up small details at the pix level for complex UI is getting difficult I am think of moving back to png images and overlaying transparent butting etc
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> On 15 Mar 2014, at 09:20, "Proxymis" <co...@proxymis.com> wrote:
>
> Hi
> I have left Flex since Adobe announced not to support visual design in
> flex4.7
>
> I saw that flex is not dead and have many improvments with flex 4.12
>
> *Is there a way to have a visual design in flex4.12 ? (complex layouts
> really are very hard to be done without this feature): is there an
> aletrnative ?*
>
> regards
>
> Chmielewski Yarek
> Proxymis Multimedia <http://www.proxymis.com/>
> 24 rue de la Cité 59800 Lille France
> tel:00 333 2031 9229
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