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Posted to user@ode.apache.org by youhaodeyi <yo...@gmail.com> on 2008/04/29 10:59:05 UTC
A question about the examples of ODE?
I am new to ODE. The HelloWorld2 example released with ODE can be deployed
into Tomcat. But there is no java source code in this example. Which class
will implemente the Web Service defined in the WSDL file? Who will do the
real job?
Thanks.
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Re: A question about the examples of ODE?
Posted by youhaodeyi <yo...@gmail.com>.
Yes true. It did like this.
Thanks.
Jean-Claude Moissinac-2 wrote:
>
> I have not that example on my computer.
> It is possible to define very simple BPEL process which uses only BPEL
> variables assignment without calling external process.
> I think the HelloWorld2 example is build like this.
>
> 2008/4/30 youhaodeyi <yo...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> Let's take the HelloWorld2 as an example, I deploy it to ODE Web Site
>> and
>> send the soap message to it and get the response message. The message I
>> sent
>> is the file testRequest.soap. It passes a String value "Hello". The
>> response
>> message I got is a soap message and the String value becomes to "Hello
>> World". If there is no Java code behind this case, who will be
>> responsible
>> for adding "World" to the message.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Matthias Füller wrote:
>> >
>> > Ok, I forgot something important:
>> > ODE is a runtime-engine for BPEL-processes. ODE will call other web
>> > services to execute its process definition.
>> > To start and controll the workflow of these processes, you define
>> > further web services in the process-description (BPEL/WSDL).
>> > These web services will be provided by ODE and passed to the
>> BPEL-process.
>> >
>> > So ODE can provide web services. But these services can only execute
>> > "BPEL code" - not java code.
>> >
>> > youhaodeyi schrieb:
>> >> So, how does the examples work if ODE is not a Web Service framework?
>> >> After I
>> >> deploy the examples to ODE, I can send SOAP message to the Service by
>> >> sendsoap.bat under the bin directory without running other
>> web-services.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Matthias Füller wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> ODE is not a framework for developing new ws-services. ODE is a
>> runtime
>> >>> engine for BPEL-processes.
>> >>> So you can describe processes (in BPEL) and execute this in ODE.
>> >>> ODE will call other web-services and handle message data
>> manipulation.
>> >>> But the activities of the processes will be implemented by other web
>> >>> services.
>> >>>
>> >>> I think you are looking for frameworks like Apache CXF
>> >>> (http://cxf.apache.org/) or Apache Axis2
>> (http://ws.apache.org/axis2/)
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards
>> >>> Matthias
>> >>>
>> >>> youhaodeyi schrieb:
>> >>>
>> >>>> I am new to ODE. The HelloWorld2 example released with ODE can be
>> >>>> deployed
>> >>>> into Tomcat. But there is no java source code in this example.
>> Which
>> >>>> class
>> >>>> will implemente the Web Service defined in the WSDL file? Who will
>> do
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> real job?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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>
>
>
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Re: A question about the examples of ODE?
Posted by Jean-Claude Moissinac <mo...@enst.fr>.
I have not that example on my computer.
It is possible to define very simple BPEL process which uses only BPEL
variables assignment without calling external process.
I think the HelloWorld2 example is build like this.
2008/4/30 youhaodeyi <yo...@gmail.com>:
>
> Let's take the HelloWorld2 as an example, I deploy it to ODE Web Site and
> send the soap message to it and get the response message. The message I sent
> is the file testRequest.soap. It passes a String value "Hello". The response
> message I got is a soap message and the String value becomes to "Hello
> World". If there is no Java code behind this case, who will be responsible
> for adding "World" to the message.
>
>
>
>
> Matthias Füller wrote:
> >
> > Ok, I forgot something important:
> > ODE is a runtime-engine for BPEL-processes. ODE will call other web
> > services to execute its process definition.
> > To start and controll the workflow of these processes, you define
> > further web services in the process-description (BPEL/WSDL).
> > These web services will be provided by ODE and passed to the BPEL-process.
> >
> > So ODE can provide web services. But these services can only execute
> > "BPEL code" - not java code.
> >
> > youhaodeyi schrieb:
> >> So, how does the examples work if ODE is not a Web Service framework?
> >> After I
> >> deploy the examples to ODE, I can send SOAP message to the Service by
> >> sendsoap.bat under the bin directory without running other web-services.
> >>
> >>
> >> Matthias Füller wrote:
> >>
> >>> ODE is not a framework for developing new ws-services. ODE is a runtime
> >>> engine for BPEL-processes.
> >>> So you can describe processes (in BPEL) and execute this in ODE.
> >>> ODE will call other web-services and handle message data manipulation.
> >>> But the activities of the processes will be implemented by other web
> >>> services.
> >>>
> >>> I think you are looking for frameworks like Apache CXF
> >>> (http://cxf.apache.org/) or Apache Axis2 (http://ws.apache.org/axis2/)
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> Matthias
> >>>
> >>> youhaodeyi schrieb:
> >>>
> >>>> I am new to ODE. The HelloWorld2 example released with ODE can be
> >>>> deployed
> >>>> into Tomcat. But there is no java source code in this example. Which
> >>>> class
> >>>> will implemente the Web Service defined in the WSDL file? Who will do
> >>>> the
> >>>> real job?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
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FRANCE
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Re: A question about the examples of ODE?
Posted by Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 5:22 AM, youhaodeyi <yo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If there is no Java code behind this case, who will be responsible
> for adding "World" to the message.
The BPEL script is responsible. BPEL can be considered a programming
language and in the HelloWorld example it is used to compose the hello
world string. Have a look at the .bpel file and you will see an assign
activity that uses XPath for that string manipulation.
Have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BPEL for some (partially
wrong) background information or just skim through the specification
[1].
Best,
Tammo
[1] http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/wsbpel-v2.0.pdf
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Re: A question about the examples of ODE?
Posted by Sebastien Mosser <mo...@polytech.unice.fr>.
youhaodeyi a écrit :
> Let's take the HelloWorld2 as an example, I deploy it to ODE Web Site and
> send the soap message to it and get the response message. The message I sent
> is the file testRequest.soap. It passes a String value "Hello". The response
> message I got is a soap message and the String value becomes to "Hello
> World". If there is no Java code behind this case, who will be responsible
> for adding "World" to the message.
BPEL !!!
ODE is an orchestration engine. So, it runs orchestration code. BPEL is
an orchestration language. you should read a bit about (Web) Services
Orieted Architectures and BPEL :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service-oriented_architecture
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BPEL
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Re: A question about the examples of ODE?
Posted by youhaodeyi <yo...@gmail.com>.
Let's take the HelloWorld2 as an example, I deploy it to ODE Web Site and
send the soap message to it and get the response message. The message I sent
is the file testRequest.soap. It passes a String value "Hello". The response
message I got is a soap message and the String value becomes to "Hello
World". If there is no Java code behind this case, who will be responsible
for adding "World" to the message.
Matthias Füller wrote:
>
> Ok, I forgot something important:
> ODE is a runtime-engine for BPEL-processes. ODE will call other web
> services to execute its process definition.
> To start and controll the workflow of these processes, you define
> further web services in the process-description (BPEL/WSDL).
> These web services will be provided by ODE and passed to the BPEL-process.
>
> So ODE can provide web services. But these services can only execute
> "BPEL code" - not java code.
>
> youhaodeyi schrieb:
>> So, how does the examples work if ODE is not a Web Service framework?
>> After I
>> deploy the examples to ODE, I can send SOAP message to the Service by
>> sendsoap.bat under the bin directory without running other web-services.
>>
>>
>> Matthias Füller wrote:
>>
>>> ODE is not a framework for developing new ws-services. ODE is a runtime
>>> engine for BPEL-processes.
>>> So you can describe processes (in BPEL) and execute this in ODE.
>>> ODE will call other web-services and handle message data manipulation.
>>> But the activities of the processes will be implemented by other web
>>> services.
>>>
>>> I think you are looking for frameworks like Apache CXF
>>> (http://cxf.apache.org/) or Apache Axis2 (http://ws.apache.org/axis2/)
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Matthias
>>>
>>> youhaodeyi schrieb:
>>>
>>>> I am new to ODE. The HelloWorld2 example released with ODE can be
>>>> deployed
>>>> into Tomcat. But there is no java source code in this example. Which
>>>> class
>>>> will implemente the Web Service defined in the WSDL file? Who will do
>>>> the
>>>> real job?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Re: A question about the examples of ODE?
Posted by Matthias Füller <ma...@gmx.net>.
Ok, I forgot something important:
ODE is a runtime-engine for BPEL-processes. ODE will call other web
services to execute its process definition.
To start and controll the workflow of these processes, you define
further web services in the process-description (BPEL/WSDL).
These web services will be provided by ODE and passed to the BPEL-process.
So ODE can provide web services. But these services can only execute
"BPEL code" - not java code.
youhaodeyi schrieb:
> So, how does the examples work if ODE is not a Web Service framework? After I
> deploy the examples to ODE, I can send SOAP message to the Service by
> sendsoap.bat under the bin directory without running other web-services.
>
>
> Matthias Füller wrote:
>
>> ODE is not a framework for developing new ws-services. ODE is a runtime
>> engine for BPEL-processes.
>> So you can describe processes (in BPEL) and execute this in ODE.
>> ODE will call other web-services and handle message data manipulation.
>> But the activities of the processes will be implemented by other web
>> services.
>>
>> I think you are looking for frameworks like Apache CXF
>> (http://cxf.apache.org/) or Apache Axis2 (http://ws.apache.org/axis2/)
>>
>> Regards
>> Matthias
>>
>> youhaodeyi schrieb:
>>
>>> I am new to ODE. The HelloWorld2 example released with ODE can be
>>> deployed
>>> into Tomcat. But there is no java source code in this example. Which
>>> class
>>> will implemente the Web Service defined in the WSDL file? Who will do the
>>> real job?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: A question about the examples of ODE?
Posted by youhaodeyi <yo...@gmail.com>.
So, how does the examples work if ODE is not a Web Service framework? After I
deploy the examples to ODE, I can send SOAP message to the Service by
sendsoap.bat under the bin directory without running other web-services.
Matthias Füller wrote:
>
> ODE is not a framework for developing new ws-services. ODE is a runtime
> engine for BPEL-processes.
> So you can describe processes (in BPEL) and execute this in ODE.
> ODE will call other web-services and handle message data manipulation.
> But the activities of the processes will be implemented by other web
> services.
>
> I think you are looking for frameworks like Apache CXF
> (http://cxf.apache.org/) or Apache Axis2 (http://ws.apache.org/axis2/)
>
> Regards
> Matthias
>
> youhaodeyi schrieb:
>> I am new to ODE. The HelloWorld2 example released with ODE can be
>> deployed
>> into Tomcat. But there is no java source code in this example. Which
>> class
>> will implemente the Web Service defined in the WSDL file? Who will do the
>> real job?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>
>
>
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Re: A question about the examples of ODE?
Posted by Matthias Füller <ma...@gmx.net>.
ODE is not a framework for developing new ws-services. ODE is a runtime
engine for BPEL-processes.
So you can describe processes (in BPEL) and execute this in ODE.
ODE will call other web-services and handle message data manipulation.
But the activities of the processes will be implemented by other web
services.
I think you are looking for frameworks like Apache CXF
(http://cxf.apache.org/) or Apache Axis2 (http://ws.apache.org/axis2/)
Regards
Matthias
youhaodeyi schrieb:
> I am new to ODE. The HelloWorld2 example released with ODE can be deployed
> into Tomcat. But there is no java source code in this example. Which class
> will implemente the Web Service defined in the WSDL file? Who will do the
> real job?
>
> Thanks.
>