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Posted to dev@fineract.apache.org by Javier Borkenztain <ja...@fiter.io> on 2022/10/13 15:59:16 UTC
Mission statement of Fineract
Hello Fineracters!
I believe we need to revamp our mission statement to be at the level of the opportunities we have as a community. I think that focusing Apache Fineract only for the unbanked and underbanked has a narrow vision and doesn't capture the full potential of the opportunity.
Apache Fineract has the opportunity to challenge the industry of core banking platforms, and not only for the unbanked, but for the entire market, and our mission has to relate with this opportunity.
I propose to change the Fineract's Mission statement from this:
The mission of Apache Fineract is the creation and maintenance of software
related to a core banking platform that provides a reliable, robust, and
affordable solution for entrepreneurs, financial institutions, and service
providers to offer financial services to the world's underbanked and unbanked.
To this one:
The mission of Apache Fineract is the creation and maintenance of a core banking system for robust, scalable, and cloud-based management of financial institutions' products (loans, accounts, and transactions).
Javier
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Re: Mission statement of Fineract
Posted by James Dailey <ja...@gmail.com>.
Good discussion. +1
Some Rewording
"At Apache Fineract, our mission is to build is to build, maintain and
enhance a cloud-ready core banking system for robust, scalable, and secure
operations of financial institutions' products (loans, accounts, and
transactions). "
We can go with above for now... and keep thinking and discussing....
But, for the sake of argument. (Devils' Argument), are we committed to
building the entire core banking system? Does that remain our ambition?
Perhaps what we are really doing is building partial to full functionality
for a backend component of simple retail banking, microfinance operations,
credit union functionality, or perhaps just embedded lending operations?
We can also say we are developing the Account Management System (AMS) as a
system of record in financial services.
I recognize these have different definitions and create some tension with
the existing code base, which already includes some basic Customer views,
KYC and onboarding workflows, and ways to connect to reporting (data
analytics), among other things.
Full Banking Solution includes and implies a Front End UI and some channel
features, also implies full Treasury support, loan decision engine, etc.
Retail banking - excludes commercial lending operations
Microfinance - too narrow for our fineract focus, we expect Mifos to
continue that focus.
Embedded lending - we would not need any of the customer centric focus or
much of it
Account management system - we would probably not need much of the product
definitions (which is a strength of the system)
A number of very wise people have told me that a key way to define your
Roadmap is to have the ANTI-Roadmap for the project.
So, what are we NOT going to develop???
On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 9:39 AM Airsay Longcon <ai...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Just a slight rewording
>
> At Apache Fineract, our mission is to build is to build, maintain and
> enhance a core banking system for robust, scalable, and cloud-based
> management of financial institutions' products (loans, accounts, and
> transactions).
>
> I would like for the mission to also indicate that the solution is both
> on-prem and cloud-based but I haven't figured a way to squeeze that in
>
> Regards
> Ese
>
> > On 13 Oct 2022, at 16:59, Javier Borkenztain <ja...@fiter.io> wrote:
> >
> > The mission of Apache Fineract is the creation and maintenance of a core
> banking system for robust, scalable, and cloud-based management of
> financial institutions' products (loans, accounts, and transactions).
>
Re: Mission statement of Fineract
Posted by Robert Jakech <ro...@fiter.io>.
I second:
"At Apache Fineract, our mission is to build, maintain and enhance a
cloud-ready core banking system for robust, scalable, and secure operations
of financial institutions" .
Just as a thought around Unbanked or Underbanked:
It's an appealing tagline. The problem is having a great CBS based on Open
source like Fineract doesn't really improve the lives of unbanked or
underbanked. So our target is the institutions that should onboard fineract
rather than the actual clients of those institutions or prospective clients
(underbanked / unbanked). These two terms can be misconstrued because
someone who has a sort of bank account like with WISE formerly transferwise
or MTN mobile money considers themselves as banked.
As a customer of an institution providing financial services (loans,
savings etc) I wouldn't care what underlying technology (CBS) they use.
What I care about is do they provide the service I need?
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On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 at 09:30, Javier Borkenztain <ja...@fiter.io> wrote:
>
> +1
> "At Apache Fineract, our mission is to build, maintain and enhance a
> cloud-ready core banking system for robust, scalable, and secure operations
> of financial institutions"
>
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> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 4:34 PM, Bruce <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> +1
>> "At Apache Fineract, our mission is to build, maintain and enhance a
>> cloud-ready core banking system for robust, scalable, and secure operations
>> of financial institutions"
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 9:29 PM Javier Borkenztain <ja...@fiter.io> wrote:
>>
>>> (*) one humanity, one financial system
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 15:28 Javier Borkenztain <ja...@fiter.io> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I believe that every person needs better financial services, not only
>>>> the underserved.
>>>>
>>>> One Humanity, one financial service.
>>>>
>>>> We need more connected, reliable, cheaper and fast financial system.
>>>> And I believe that standardization is one big key to success, hence a set
>>>> of open source projects.
>>>>
>>>> Anty-roadmap: I suggest we don't do what others are doing already on
>>>> open-source.
>>>> Better if it is an Apache project.
>>>>
>>>> The rest hell yeah! Treasury Mngmt, payments, kyc, ....
>>>>
>>>> Javier
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 14:22 Bruce <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I also find the mission more powerful and compelling when it talks
>>>>> about addressing the needs of the unbanked and underbanked.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why ?
>>>>> Because the Unbanked and underbanked also deserve cutting edge,
>>>>> advanced, modern and evolving core banking system/technology.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's my opinion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 8:03 PM Dick Dickson <d...@gwocu.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Apache Fineract has the opportunity to challenge the industry of
>>>>>> core banking platforms"
>>>>>> - Fiserv / FIS / Jack Henry are not threatened by Fineract. I find no
>>>>>> evidence to the contrary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The mission statement ought to remain focused on the needs of the
>>>>>> unbanked and underbanked, if for no other reason than to make user personas
>>>>>> and product requirements more succinct and concise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 11:39 AM Airsay Longcon <
>>>>>> airsaylongcon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just a slight rewording
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At Apache Fineract, our mission is to build is to build, maintain
>>>>>>> and enhance a core banking system for robust, scalable, and cloud-based
>>>>>>> management of financial institutions' products (loans, accounts, and
>>>>>>> transactions).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like for the mission to also indicate that the solution is
>>>>>>> both on-prem and cloud-based but I haven't figured a way to squeeze that in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Ese
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > On 13 Oct 2022, at 16:59, Javier Borkenztain <ja...@fiter.io>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > The mission of Apache Fineract is the creation and maintenance of
>>>>>>> a core banking system for robust, scalable, and cloud-based management of
>>>>>>> financial institutions' products (loans, accounts, and transactions).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>
Re: Mission statement of Fineract
Posted by Javier Borkenztain <ja...@fiter.io>.
+1
"At Apache Fineract, our mission is to build, maintain and enhance a cloud-ready core banking system for robust, scalable, and secure operations of financial institutions"
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On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 4:34 PM, Bruce < brucetushabe@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> +1
>
> "At Apache Fineract, our mission is to build, maintain and enhance a
> cloud-ready core banking system for robust, scalable, and secure
> operations of financial institutions"
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 9:29 PM Javier Borkenztain < javier@ fiter. io (
> javier@fiter.io ) > wrote:
>
>
>> (*) one humanity, one financial system
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 15:28 Javier Borkenztain < javier@ fiter. io (
>> javier@fiter.io ) > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I believe that every person needs better financial services, not only the
>>> underserved.
>>>
>>>
>>> One Humanity, one financial service.
>>>
>>>
>>> We need more connected, reliable, cheaper and fast financial system. And I
>>> believe that standardization is one big key to success, hence a set of
>>> open source projects.
>>>
>>>
>>> Anty-roadmap: I suggest we don't do what others are doing already on
>>> open-source.
>>> Better if it is an Apache project.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The rest hell yeah! Treasury Mngmt, payments, kyc, ....
>>>
>>>
>>> Javier
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 14:22 Bruce < brucetushabe@ gmail. com (
>>> brucetushabe@gmail.com ) > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I also find the mission more powerful and compelling when it talks about
>>>> addressing the needs of the unbanked and underbanked.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why ?
>>>> Because the Unbanked and underbanked also deserve cutting edge, advanced,
>>>> modern and evolving core banking system/technology.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's my opinion.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 8:03 PM Dick Dickson < d@ gwocu. com ( d@gwocu.com )
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Apache Fineract has the opportunity to challenge the industry of core
>>>>> banking platforms"
>>>>> - Fiserv / FIS / Jack Henry are not threatened by Fineract. I find no
>>>>> evidence to the contrary.
>>>>>
>>>>> The mission statement ought to remain focused on the needs of the unbanked
>>>>> and underbanked, if for no other reason than to make user personas and
>>>>> product requirements more succinct and concise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Richard
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 11:39 AM Airsay Longcon < airsaylongcon@ gmail. com
>>>>> ( airsaylongcon@gmail.com ) > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just a slight rewording
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At Apache Fineract, our mission is to build is to build, maintain and
>>>>>> enhance a core banking system for robust, scalable, and cloud-based
>>>>>> management of financial institutions' products (loans, accounts, and
>>>>>> transactions).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like for the mission to also indicate that the solution is both
>>>>>> on-prem and cloud-based but I haven't figured a way to squeeze that in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Ese
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On 13 Oct 2022, at 16:59, Javier Borkenztain < javier@ fiter. io (
>>>>>> javier@fiter.io ) > wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The mission of Apache Fineract is the creation and maintenance of a core
>>>>>> banking system for robust, scalable, and cloud-based management of
>>>>>> financial institutions' products (loans, accounts, and transactions).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Mission statement of Fineract
Posted by Bruce <br...@gmail.com>.
+1
"At Apache Fineract, our mission is to build, maintain and enhance a
cloud-ready core banking system for robust, scalable, and secure operations
of financial institutions"
On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 9:29 PM Javier Borkenztain <ja...@fiter.io> wrote:
> (*) one humanity, one financial system
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 15:28 Javier Borkenztain <ja...@fiter.io> wrote:
>
>> I believe that every person needs better financial services, not only the
>> underserved.
>>
>> One Humanity, one financial service.
>>
>> We need more connected, reliable, cheaper and fast financial system. And
>> I believe that standardization is one big key to success, hence a set of
>> open source projects.
>>
>> Anty-roadmap: I suggest we don't do what others are doing already on
>> open-source.
>> Better if it is an Apache project.
>>
>> The rest hell yeah! Treasury Mngmt, payments, kyc, ....
>>
>> Javier
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 14:22 Bruce <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I also find the mission more powerful and compelling when it talks about
>>> addressing the needs of the unbanked and underbanked.
>>>
>>> Why ?
>>> Because the Unbanked and underbanked also deserve cutting edge,
>>> advanced, modern and evolving core banking system/technology.
>>>
>>> That's my opinion.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 8:03 PM Dick Dickson <d...@gwocu.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Apache Fineract has the opportunity to challenge the industry of core
>>>> banking platforms"
>>>> - Fiserv / FIS / Jack Henry are not threatened by Fineract. I find no
>>>> evidence to the contrary.
>>>>
>>>> The mission statement ought to remain focused on the needs of the
>>>> unbanked and underbanked, if for no other reason than to make user personas
>>>> and product requirements more succinct and concise.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 11:39 AM Airsay Longcon <
>>>> airsaylongcon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just a slight rewording
>>>>>
>>>>> At Apache Fineract, our mission is to build is to build, maintain and
>>>>> enhance a core banking system for robust, scalable, and cloud-based
>>>>> management of financial institutions' products (loans, accounts, and
>>>>> transactions).
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like for the mission to also indicate that the solution is
>>>>> both on-prem and cloud-based but I haven't figured a way to squeeze that in
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Ese
>>>>>
>>>>> > On 13 Oct 2022, at 16:59, Javier Borkenztain <ja...@fiter.io>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The mission of Apache Fineract is the creation and maintenance of a
>>>>> core banking system for robust, scalable, and cloud-based management of
>>>>> financial institutions' products (loans, accounts, and transactions).
>>>>>
>>>>
Re: Mission statement of Fineract
Posted by Javier Borkenztain <ja...@fiter.io>.
(*) one humanity, one financial system
On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 15:28 Javier Borkenztain <ja...@fiter.io> wrote:
> I believe that every person needs better financial services, not only the
> underserved.
>
> One Humanity, one financial service.
>
> We need more connected, reliable, cheaper and fast financial system. And I
> believe that standardization is one big key to success, hence a set of open
> source projects.
>
> Anty-roadmap: I suggest we don't do what others are doing already on
> open-source.
> Better if it is an Apache project.
>
> The rest hell yeah! Treasury Mngmt, payments, kyc, ....
>
> Javier
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 14:22 Bruce <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I also find the mission more powerful and compelling when it talks about
>> addressing the needs of the unbanked and underbanked.
>>
>> Why ?
>> Because the Unbanked and underbanked also deserve cutting edge, advanced,
>> modern and evolving core banking system/technology.
>>
>> That's my opinion.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 8:03 PM Dick Dickson <d...@gwocu.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Apache Fineract has the opportunity to challenge the industry of core
>>> banking platforms"
>>> - Fiserv / FIS / Jack Henry are not threatened by Fineract. I find no
>>> evidence to the contrary.
>>>
>>> The mission statement ought to remain focused on the needs of the
>>> unbanked and underbanked, if for no other reason than to make user personas
>>> and product requirements more succinct and concise.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 11:39 AM Airsay Longcon <ai...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just a slight rewording
>>>>
>>>> At Apache Fineract, our mission is to build is to build, maintain and
>>>> enhance a core banking system for robust, scalable, and cloud-based
>>>> management of financial institutions' products (loans, accounts, and
>>>> transactions).
>>>>
>>>> I would like for the mission to also indicate that the solution is both
>>>> on-prem and cloud-based but I haven't figured a way to squeeze that in
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Ese
>>>>
>>>> > On 13 Oct 2022, at 16:59, Javier Borkenztain <ja...@fiter.io> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > The mission of Apache Fineract is the creation and maintenance of a
>>>> core banking system for robust, scalable, and cloud-based management of
>>>> financial institutions' products (loans, accounts, and transactions).
>>>>
>>>
Re: Mission statement of Fineract
Posted by Javier Borkenztain <ja...@fiter.io>.
I believe that every person needs better financial services, not only the
underserved.
One Humanity, one financial service.
We need more connected, reliable, cheaper and fast financial system. And I
believe that standardization is one big key to success, hence a set of open
source projects.
Anty-roadmap: I suggest we don't do what others are doing already on
open-source.
Better if it is an Apache project.
The rest hell yeah! Treasury Mngmt, payments, kyc, ....
Javier
On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 14:22 Bruce <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I also find the mission more powerful and compelling when it talks about
> addressing the needs of the unbanked and underbanked.
>
> Why ?
> Because the Unbanked and underbanked also deserve cutting edge, advanced,
> modern and evolving core banking system/technology.
>
> That's my opinion.
>
> Thanks
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 8:03 PM Dick Dickson <d...@gwocu.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Apache Fineract has the opportunity to challenge the industry of core
>> banking platforms"
>> - Fiserv / FIS / Jack Henry are not threatened by Fineract. I find no
>> evidence to the contrary.
>>
>> The mission statement ought to remain focused on the needs of the
>> unbanked and underbanked, if for no other reason than to make user personas
>> and product requirements more succinct and concise.
>>
>> Best,
>> Richard
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 11:39 AM Airsay Longcon <ai...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just a slight rewording
>>>
>>> At Apache Fineract, our mission is to build is to build, maintain and
>>> enhance a core banking system for robust, scalable, and cloud-based
>>> management of financial institutions' products (loans, accounts, and
>>> transactions).
>>>
>>> I would like for the mission to also indicate that the solution is both
>>> on-prem and cloud-based but I haven't figured a way to squeeze that in
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Ese
>>>
>>> > On 13 Oct 2022, at 16:59, Javier Borkenztain <ja...@fiter.io> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > The mission of Apache Fineract is the creation and maintenance of a
>>> core banking system for robust, scalable, and cloud-based management of
>>> financial institutions' products (loans, accounts, and transactions).
>>>
>>
Re: Mission statement of Fineract
Posted by Bruce <br...@gmail.com>.
I also find the mission more powerful and compelling when it talks about
addressing the needs of the unbanked and underbanked.
Why ?
Because the Unbanked and underbanked also deserve cutting edge, advanced,
modern and evolving core banking system/technology.
That's my opinion.
Thanks
On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 8:03 PM Dick Dickson <d...@gwocu.com> wrote:
>
> "Apache Fineract has the opportunity to challenge the industry of core
> banking platforms"
> - Fiserv / FIS / Jack Henry are not threatened by Fineract. I find no
> evidence to the contrary.
>
> The mission statement ought to remain focused on the needs of the unbanked
> and underbanked, if for no other reason than to make user personas and
> product requirements more succinct and concise.
>
> Best,
> Richard
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 11:39 AM Airsay Longcon <ai...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Just a slight rewording
>>
>> At Apache Fineract, our mission is to build is to build, maintain and
>> enhance a core banking system for robust, scalable, and cloud-based
>> management of financial institutions' products (loans, accounts, and
>> transactions).
>>
>> I would like for the mission to also indicate that the solution is both
>> on-prem and cloud-based but I haven't figured a way to squeeze that in
>>
>> Regards
>> Ese
>>
>> > On 13 Oct 2022, at 16:59, Javier Borkenztain <ja...@fiter.io> wrote:
>> >
>> > The mission of Apache Fineract is the creation and maintenance of a
>> core banking system for robust, scalable, and cloud-based management of
>> financial institutions' products (loans, accounts, and transactions).
>>
>
Re: Mission statement of Fineract
Posted by Dick Dickson <d...@gwocu.com>.
"Apache Fineract has the opportunity to challenge the industry of core
banking platforms"
- Fiserv / FIS / Jack Henry are not threatened by Fineract. I find no
evidence to the contrary.
The mission statement ought to remain focused on the needs of the unbanked
and underbanked, if for no other reason than to make user personas and
product requirements more succinct and concise.
Best,
Richard
On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 11:39 AM Airsay Longcon <ai...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Just a slight rewording
>
> At Apache Fineract, our mission is to build is to build, maintain and
> enhance a core banking system for robust, scalable, and cloud-based
> management of financial institutions' products (loans, accounts, and
> transactions).
>
> I would like for the mission to also indicate that the solution is both
> on-prem and cloud-based but I haven't figured a way to squeeze that in
>
> Regards
> Ese
>
> > On 13 Oct 2022, at 16:59, Javier Borkenztain <ja...@fiter.io> wrote:
> >
> > The mission of Apache Fineract is the creation and maintenance of a core
> banking system for robust, scalable, and cloud-based management of
> financial institutions' products (loans, accounts, and transactions).
>
Re: Mission statement of Fineract
Posted by Airsay Longcon <ai...@gmail.com>.
Just a slight rewording
At Apache Fineract, our mission is to build is to build, maintain and enhance a core banking system for robust, scalable, and cloud-based management of financial institutions' products (loans, accounts, and transactions).
I would like for the mission to also indicate that the solution is both on-prem and cloud-based but I haven't figured a way to squeeze that in
Regards
Ese
> On 13 Oct 2022, at 16:59, Javier Borkenztain <ja...@fiter.io> wrote:
>
> The mission of Apache Fineract is the creation and maintenance of a core banking system for robust, scalable, and cloud-based management of financial institutions' products (loans, accounts, and transactions).