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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Sandhya Sundaresan <sa...@esgyn.com> on 2017/04/27 18:24:11 UTC

RE: Guidance needed ( Apache Trafodion (incubating) release 2.1.0 )

Hello again,

The Trafodion podling needs some help and guidance from the IPMC on moving forward with its current release (Trafodion R2.1).  A Vote has been pending since April 17th.  I've been following the other thread on the "Incubator Governance Change" as well and the last message from Roman about hollering on this list  if we aren't getting the mentorship needed.  

So the situation now  is that of 3 mentors for the Trafodion project, 2 have been inactive. Our third is on vacation and has been occupied/busy with other stuff. He has been helpful with the past releases. We are pursuing a search for new mentors  on the side. 

But for this immediate release, we are in the tail end of the voting process and lacking one IPMC vote. I understand it does not have to be a mentor necessarily (although preferable).  

We have the following  votes from :

Jean-Baptiste Onofré (binding)
John D Ament (binding)
Ivam Firestone

Original full thread
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8eca13e52620d16c3f974bc5054d59af29fa98d30763d646829a3850@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E


Seeking the advice and help  of the experts here on the best way forward for the  release  at this point. Looks like the mentor search or governance change( if any) may take a while. Maintaining the master branch as well as the current release branch is expensive. There's are some prospects  awaiting the 2.1 release which contains several features and 300+ bugfixes.  

We hope to be able to speed this up and move forward with some help from the community . 

Thank you !
Sandhya




-----Original Message-----
From: Sandhya Sundaresan [mailto:sandhya.sundaresan@esgyn.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 8:53 AM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion (incubating) release 2.1.0 RC 3

Hi,
   No not yet. I sent them a private reminder message as well. 

Devaraj Das 
Enis Söztutar 
Michael Stack 

Thanks !
Sandhya

-----Original Message-----
From: bdelacretaz@gmail.com [mailto:bdelacretaz@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Bertrand Delacretaz
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 11:22 PM
To: Incubator General <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion (incubating) release 2.1.0 RC 3

Hi,

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 7:31 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan <sa...@esgyn.com> wrote:
> ...The Trafodion 2.1.0 release is awaiting just one more binding vote before we can move forward with this release....

Did your mentors review the release and vote?
I don't see any of the names listed at [1] as having voted in this thread or the podling vote thread, but maybe I missed something.

-Bertrand

[1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html

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Re: Guidance needed ( Apache Trafodion (incubating) release 2.1.0 )

Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>.
Well said, Sandhya,

Looking forward to seeing that 1 need vote cast.

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On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 8:24 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
sandhya.sundaresan@esgyn.com> wrote:

> Hello again,
>
> The Trafodion podling needs some help and guidance from the IPMC on moving
> forward with its current release (Trafodion R2.1).  A Vote has been pending
> since April 17th.  I've been following the other thread on the "Incubator
> Governance Change" as well and the last message from Roman about hollering
> on this list  if we aren't getting the mentorship needed.
>
> So the situation now  is that of 3 mentors for the Trafodion project, 2
> have been inactive. Our third is on vacation and has been occupied/busy
> with other stuff. He has been helpful with the past releases. We are
> pursuing a search for new mentors  on the side.
>
> But for this immediate release, we are in the tail end of the voting
> process and lacking one IPMC vote. I understand it does not have to be a
> mentor necessarily (although preferable).
>
> We have the following  votes from :
>
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré (binding)
> John D Ament (binding)
> Ivam Firestone
>
> Original full thread
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8eca13e52620d16c3f974bc5054d59
> af29fa98d30763d646829a3850@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>
>
> Seeking the advice and help  of the experts here on the best way forward
> for the  release  at this point. Looks like the mentor search or governance
> change( if any) may take a while. Maintaining the master branch as well as
> the current release branch is expensive. There's are some prospects
> awaiting the 2.1 release which contains several features and 300+ bugfixes.
>
> We hope to be able to speed this up and move forward with some help from
> the community .
>
> Thank you !
> Sandhya
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sandhya Sundaresan [mailto:sandhya.sundaresan@esgyn.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 8:53 AM
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion (incubating) release 2.1.0 RC 3
>
> Hi,
>    No not yet. I sent them a private reminder message as well.
>
> Devaraj Das
> Enis Söztutar
> Michael Stack
>
> Thanks !
> Sandhya
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bdelacretaz@gmail.com [mailto:bdelacretaz@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
> Bertrand Delacretaz
> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 11:22 PM
> To: Incubator General <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion (incubating) release 2.1.0 RC 3
>
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 7:31 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
> sandhya.sundaresan@esgyn.com> wrote:
> > ...The Trafodion 2.1.0 release is awaiting just one more binding vote
> before we can move forward with this release....
>
> Did your mentors review the release and vote?
> I don't see any of the names listed at [1] as having voted in this thread
> or the podling vote thread, but maybe I missed something.
>
> -Bertrand
>
> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
>
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RE: Guidance needed ( Apache Trafodion (incubating) release 2.1.0 )

Posted by Sandhya Sundaresan <sa...@esgyn.com>.
Thank you Taylor !  Yes we'll open a separate thread for the mentor search and give some more background on the project and what specific help we'll need going forward.
Thanks
Sandhya

-----Original Message-----
From: P. Taylor Goetz [mailto:ptgoetz@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:56 AM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Guidance needed ( Apache Trafodion (incubating) release 2.1.0 )

Hi Sandhya,

I’ll review your rc now and will respond today.

In the meantime I would suggest asking on general@ to see if anyone is available to help mentor Trafodion (which you mostly have here). You may also want to privately touch base privately with inactive mentors to see if the wish to continue in that role.

-Taylor


> On Apr 27, 2017, at 2:24 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <sa...@esgyn.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello again,
> 
> The Trafodion podling needs some help and guidance from the IPMC on moving forward with its current release (Trafodion R2.1).  A Vote has been pending since April 17th.  I've been following the other thread on the "Incubator Governance Change" as well and the last message from Roman about hollering on this list  if we aren't getting the mentorship needed.  
> 
> So the situation now  is that of 3 mentors for the Trafodion project, 2 have been inactive. Our third is on vacation and has been occupied/busy with other stuff. He has been helpful with the past releases. We are pursuing a search for new mentors  on the side. 
> 
> But for this immediate release, we are in the tail end of the voting process and lacking one IPMC vote. I understand it does not have to be a mentor necessarily (although preferable).  
> 
> We have the following  votes from :
> 
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré (binding)
> John D Ament (binding)
> Ivam Firestone
> 
> Original full thread
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8eca13e52620d16c3f974bc5054d59af29fa98d30763d646829a3850@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> 
> 
> Seeking the advice and help  of the experts here on the best way forward for the  release  at this point. Looks like the mentor search or governance change( if any) may take a while. Maintaining the master branch as well as the current release branch is expensive. There's are some prospects  awaiting the 2.1 release which contains several features and 300+ bugfixes.  
> 
> We hope to be able to speed this up and move forward with some help from the community . 
> 
> Thank you !
> Sandhya
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sandhya Sundaresan [mailto:sandhya.sundaresan@esgyn.com] 
> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 8:53 AM
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion (incubating) release 2.1.0 RC 3
> 
> Hi,
>   No not yet. I sent them a private reminder message as well. 
> 
> Devaraj Das 
> Enis Söztutar 
> Michael Stack 
> 
> Thanks !
> Sandhya
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bdelacretaz@gmail.com [mailto:bdelacretaz@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Bertrand Delacretaz
> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 11:22 PM
> To: Incubator General <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion (incubating) release 2.1.0 RC 3
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 7:31 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan <sa...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>> ...The Trafodion 2.1.0 release is awaiting just one more binding vote before we can move forward with this release....
> 
> Did your mentors review the release and vote?
> I don't see any of the names listed at [1] as having voted in this thread or the podling vote thread, but maybe I missed something.
> 
> -Bertrand
> 
> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
> 
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Re: Guidance needed ( Apache Trafodion (incubating) release 2.1.0 )

Posted by "P. Taylor Goetz" <pt...@gmail.com>.
Hi Sandhya,

I’ll review your rc now and will respond today.

In the meantime I would suggest asking on general@ to see if anyone is available to help mentor Trafodion (which you mostly have here). You may also want to privately touch base privately with inactive mentors to see if the wish to continue in that role.

-Taylor


> On Apr 27, 2017, at 2:24 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <sa...@esgyn.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello again,
> 
> The Trafodion podling needs some help and guidance from the IPMC on moving forward with its current release (Trafodion R2.1).  A Vote has been pending since April 17th.  I've been following the other thread on the "Incubator Governance Change" as well and the last message from Roman about hollering on this list  if we aren't getting the mentorship needed.  
> 
> So the situation now  is that of 3 mentors for the Trafodion project, 2 have been inactive. Our third is on vacation and has been occupied/busy with other stuff. He has been helpful with the past releases. We are pursuing a search for new mentors  on the side. 
> 
> But for this immediate release, we are in the tail end of the voting process and lacking one IPMC vote. I understand it does not have to be a mentor necessarily (although preferable).  
> 
> We have the following  votes from :
> 
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré (binding)
> John D Ament (binding)
> Ivam Firestone
> 
> Original full thread
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8eca13e52620d16c3f974bc5054d59af29fa98d30763d646829a3850@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> 
> 
> Seeking the advice and help  of the experts here on the best way forward for the  release  at this point. Looks like the mentor search or governance change( if any) may take a while. Maintaining the master branch as well as the current release branch is expensive. There's are some prospects  awaiting the 2.1 release which contains several features and 300+ bugfixes.  
> 
> We hope to be able to speed this up and move forward with some help from the community . 
> 
> Thank you !
> Sandhya
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sandhya Sundaresan [mailto:sandhya.sundaresan@esgyn.com] 
> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 8:53 AM
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion (incubating) release 2.1.0 RC 3
> 
> Hi,
>   No not yet. I sent them a private reminder message as well. 
> 
> Devaraj Das 
> Enis Söztutar 
> Michael Stack 
> 
> Thanks !
> Sandhya
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bdelacretaz@gmail.com [mailto:bdelacretaz@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Bertrand Delacretaz
> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 11:22 PM
> To: Incubator General <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion (incubating) release 2.1.0 RC 3
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 7:31 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan <sa...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>> ...The Trafodion 2.1.0 release is awaiting just one more binding vote before we can move forward with this release....
> 
> Did your mentors review the release and vote?
> I don't see any of the names listed at [1] as having voted in this thread or the podling vote thread, but maybe I missed something.
> 
> -Bertrand
> 
> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
> 
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