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Posted to doc@openoffice.apache.org by F Campos Costero <fj...@gmail.com> on 2021/02/10 19:19:32 UTC
Update of 4 docs from Getting Started branch
I just pushed my first revision of the first four sub documents of the
Getting Started Guide (AOO41GS1 - AOO41GS4). I have not made a pull request
yet. Since this is a new process for everyone, I thought Keith, Marcia or
someone else might want an early look. I only turned on Record Changes for
GS3 and GS4. Sorry! The biggest change was incorporation of the Sidebar in
AOO41GS2 and Jean did almost all of that.
All comments welcome!
Francis
RE: Update of 4 docs from Getting Started branch
Posted by Dennis Hamilton <or...@msn.com>.
The screen capture can be accessed here:
< https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RfJio7kwN5GO3Ekf8ex9b_7HSzge4peu/view?usp=sharing>
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Hamilton
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 15:25
To: doc@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: RE: Update of 4 docs from Getting Started branch
That's great Francis,
I confirm that you have Issues and Discussion on your GitHub dashboard now. I've enclosed a screen capture of how it is looking just now.
I don't think Excel implemented Calc formulas until ODF Calc formulas were specified in ODF 1.2 OpenFormula. I don't follow current discussions on interoperability although I believe there are still some glitches between Excel and Calc.
-----Original Message-----
From: F Campos Costero <fj...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 13:43
To: doc@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Update of 4 docs from Getting Started branch
Dennis,
Thanks for the advice! I did intend for people to look at the fork and I even had the link on my clipboard. I had a little domestic crisis this morning and my brain was not fully engaged, I guess.
I turned on Issues and Discussion in my fork, I think. If you have a moment to check, it would be nice to confirm that and for me to see what it looks like on my end. We will have to have Git primer for docs volunteers but I have to learn these things myself. Before now, I have only used the command line to work with repositories on systems I control, so all this fancy GUI collaboration is new.
I have long wondered how well MS Office supports the Open Document format since document exchange is a persistent topic on the forum. Back when ods support first came to Excel, I learned that saving an ods file would result in all of the formulas being silently dropped. That scarred me. I'm sure they have improved since then.
Francis
On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 2:06 PM Dennis Hamilton <or...@msn.com> wrote:
> Without a pull request, I am unclear how you expect anyone to see this
> unless you mean for us to look at your fork?
>
> That is, at the FJCC/openoffice-docs Getting-Started branch?
> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith
> ub.com%2FFJCC%2Fopenoffice-docs%2Ftree%2FGetting-Sarted-Guide&data
> =04%7C01%7C%7C0c36cc4e0ba34a25f84c08d8ce0ced84%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435a
> aaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637485902200737423%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWI
> joiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&a
> mp;sdata=4xAxiaNqcq5bOSkcmaIGOeuuwCfyv%2Bs0quEPSgeZPk4%3D&reserved
> =0>
>
> There I see your 4-document updates earlier today in the Review folder
> there.
>
> Francis, if you enable Issues and Discussions on your fork, others can
> comment on the changes you have there before you ask for them to be
> pulled to Apache/openoffice-docs.
>
> There I could have told you that where you made the change in
> AOOO41GS1.odt, it should be "The subscription is needed ... "
>
> - Dennis
>
> PS: Odd side note. Apparently my default for .odt is Microsoft Word.
> It opened the Preface just fine, and showed me the comments from Jean
> and you also. I then re-opened in Writer. There is nor visible
> difference in the document that is presented.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: F Campos Costero <fj...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 11:20
> To: doc@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Update of 4 docs from Getting Started branch
>
> I just pushed my first revision of the first four sub documents of the
> Getting Started Guide (AOO41GS1 - AOO41GS4). I have not made a pull
> request yet. Since this is a new process for everyone, I thought
> Keith, Marcia or someone else might want an early look. I only turned
> on Record Changes for
> GS3 and GS4. Sorry! The biggest change was incorporation of the
> Sidebar in
> AOO41GS2 and Jean did almost all of that.
> All comments welcome!
> Francis
>
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Re: Update of 4 docs from Getting Started branch
Posted by "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net>.
On 2/10/2021 6:29 PM, Dennis Hamilton wrote:
> That's great Francis,
>
> I confirm that you have Issues and Discussion on your GitHub dashboard now. I've enclosed a screen capture of how it is looking just now.
As with all openoffice lists, most attachments are blocked. The best way
to get them through is to put them on a sharing site and send the link
to the list.
As I remember correctly you are a Windows user. If you a onedrive
account you could use the public folder to store it and send the link to
the list.
regards
Keith
>
> I don't think Excel implemented Calc formulas until ODF Calc formulas were specified in ODF 1.2 OpenFormula. I don't follow current discussions on interoperability although I believe there are still some glitches between Excel and Calc.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: F Campos Costero <fj...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 13:43
> To: doc@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Update of 4 docs from Getting Started branch
>
> Dennis,
> Thanks for the advice! I did intend for people to look at the fork and I even had the link on my clipboard. I had a little domestic crisis this morning and my brain was not fully engaged, I guess.
>
> I turned on Issues and Discussion in my fork, I think. If you have a moment to check, it would be nice to confirm that and for me to see what it looks like on my end. We will have to have Git primer for docs volunteers but I have to learn these things myself. Before now, I have only used the command line to work with repositories on systems I control, so all this fancy GUI collaboration is new.
>
> I have long wondered how well MS Office supports the Open Document format since document exchange is a persistent topic on the forum. Back when ods support first came to Excel, I learned that saving an ods file would result in all of the formulas being silently dropped. That scarred me. I'm sure they have improved since then.
>
> Francis
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 2:06 PM Dennis Hamilton <or...@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> Without a pull request, I am unclear how you expect anyone to see this
>> unless you mean for us to look at your fork?
>>
>> That is, at the FJCC/openoffice-docs Getting-Started branch?
>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith
>> ub.com%2FFJCC%2Fopenoffice-docs%2Ftree%2FGetting-Sarted-Guide&data
>> =04%7C01%7C%7C0c36cc4e0ba34a25f84c08d8ce0ced84%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435a
>> aaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637485902200737423%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWI
>> joiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&a
>> mp;sdata=4xAxiaNqcq5bOSkcmaIGOeuuwCfyv%2Bs0quEPSgeZPk4%3D&reserved
>> =0>
>>
>> There I see your 4-document updates earlier today in the Review folder
>> there.
>>
>> Francis, if you enable Issues and Discussions on your fork, others can
>> comment on the changes you have there before you ask for them to be
>> pulled to Apache/openoffice-docs.
>>
>> There I could have told you that where you made the change in
>> AOOO41GS1.odt, it should be "The subscription is needed ... "
>>
>> - Dennis
>>
>> PS: Odd side note. Apparently my default for .odt is Microsoft Word.
>> It opened the Preface just fine, and showed me the comments from Jean
>> and you also. I then re-opened in Writer. There is nor visible
>> difference in the document that is presented.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: F Campos Costero <fj...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 11:20
>> To: doc@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: Update of 4 docs from Getting Started branch
>>
>> I just pushed my first revision of the first four sub documents of the
>> Getting Started Guide (AOO41GS1 - AOO41GS4). I have not made a pull
>> request yet. Since this is a new process for everyone, I thought
>> Keith, Marcia or someone else might want an early look. I only turned
>> on Record Changes for
>> GS3 and GS4. Sorry! The biggest change was incorporation of the
>> Sidebar in
>> AOO41GS2 and Jean did almost all of that.
>> All comments welcome!
>> Francis
>>
>
>
>
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RE: Update of 4 docs from Getting Started branch
Posted by Dennis Hamilton <or...@msn.com>.
That's great Francis,
I confirm that you have Issues and Discussion on your GitHub dashboard now. I've enclosed a screen capture of how it is looking just now.
I don't think Excel implemented Calc formulas until ODF Calc formulas were specified in ODF 1.2 OpenFormula. I don't follow current discussions on interoperability although I believe there are still some glitches between Excel and Calc.
-----Original Message-----
From: F Campos Costero <fj...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 13:43
To: doc@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Update of 4 docs from Getting Started branch
Dennis,
Thanks for the advice! I did intend for people to look at the fork and I even had the link on my clipboard. I had a little domestic crisis this morning and my brain was not fully engaged, I guess.
I turned on Issues and Discussion in my fork, I think. If you have a moment to check, it would be nice to confirm that and for me to see what it looks like on my end. We will have to have Git primer for docs volunteers but I have to learn these things myself. Before now, I have only used the command line to work with repositories on systems I control, so all this fancy GUI collaboration is new.
I have long wondered how well MS Office supports the Open Document format since document exchange is a persistent topic on the forum. Back when ods support first came to Excel, I learned that saving an ods file would result in all of the formulas being silently dropped. That scarred me. I'm sure they have improved since then.
Francis
On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 2:06 PM Dennis Hamilton <or...@msn.com> wrote:
> Without a pull request, I am unclear how you expect anyone to see this
> unless you mean for us to look at your fork?
>
> That is, at the FJCC/openoffice-docs Getting-Started branch?
> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith
> ub.com%2FFJCC%2Fopenoffice-docs%2Ftree%2FGetting-Sarted-Guide&data
> =04%7C01%7C%7C0c36cc4e0ba34a25f84c08d8ce0ced84%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435a
> aaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637485902200737423%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWI
> joiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&a
> mp;sdata=4xAxiaNqcq5bOSkcmaIGOeuuwCfyv%2Bs0quEPSgeZPk4%3D&reserved
> =0>
>
> There I see your 4-document updates earlier today in the Review folder
> there.
>
> Francis, if you enable Issues and Discussions on your fork, others can
> comment on the changes you have there before you ask for them to be
> pulled to Apache/openoffice-docs.
>
> There I could have told you that where you made the change in
> AOOO41GS1.odt, it should be "The subscription is needed ... "
>
> - Dennis
>
> PS: Odd side note. Apparently my default for .odt is Microsoft Word.
> It opened the Preface just fine, and showed me the comments from Jean
> and you also. I then re-opened in Writer. There is nor visible
> difference in the document that is presented.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: F Campos Costero <fj...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 11:20
> To: doc@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Update of 4 docs from Getting Started branch
>
> I just pushed my first revision of the first four sub documents of the
> Getting Started Guide (AOO41GS1 - AOO41GS4). I have not made a pull
> request yet. Since this is a new process for everyone, I thought
> Keith, Marcia or someone else might want an early look. I only turned
> on Record Changes for
> GS3 and GS4. Sorry! The biggest change was incorporation of the
> Sidebar in
> AOO41GS2 and Jean did almost all of that.
> All comments welcome!
> Francis
>
Re: Update of 4 docs from Getting Started branch
Posted by F Campos Costero <fj...@gmail.com>.
Dennis,
Thanks for the advice! I did intend for people to look at the fork and I
even had the link on my clipboard. I had a little domestic crisis
this morning and my brain was not fully engaged, I guess.
I turned on Issues and Discussion in my fork, I think. If you have a
moment to check, it would be nice to confirm that and for me to see what it
looks like on my end. We will have to have Git primer for docs volunteers
but I have to learn these things myself. Before now, I have only used the
command line to work with repositories on systems I control, so all this
fancy GUI collaboration is new.
I have long wondered how well MS Office supports the Open Document format
since document exchange is a persistent topic on the forum. Back when ods
support first came to Excel, I learned that saving an ods file would result
in all of the formulas being silently dropped. That scarred me. I'm sure
they have improved since then.
Francis
On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 2:06 PM Dennis Hamilton <or...@msn.com> wrote:
> Without a pull request, I am unclear how you expect anyone to see this
> unless you mean for us to look at your fork?
>
> That is, at the FJCC/openoffice-docs Getting-Started branch?
> <https://github.com/FJCC/openoffice-docs/tree/Getting-Sarted-Guide>
>
> There I see your 4-document updates earlier today in the Review folder
> there.
>
> Francis, if you enable Issues and Discussions on your fork, others can
> comment on the changes you have there before you ask for them to be pulled
> to Apache/openoffice-docs.
>
> There I could have told you that where you made the change in
> AOOO41GS1.odt, it should be "The subscription is needed ... "
>
> - Dennis
>
> PS: Odd side note. Apparently my default for .odt is Microsoft Word. It
> opened the Preface just fine, and showed me the comments from Jean and you
> also. I then re-opened in Writer. There is nor visible difference in the
> document that is presented.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: F Campos Costero <fj...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 11:20
> To: doc@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Update of 4 docs from Getting Started branch
>
> I just pushed my first revision of the first four sub documents of the
> Getting Started Guide (AOO41GS1 - AOO41GS4). I have not made a pull request
> yet. Since this is a new process for everyone, I thought Keith, Marcia or
> someone else might want an early look. I only turned on Record Changes for
> GS3 and GS4. Sorry! The biggest change was incorporation of the Sidebar in
> AOO41GS2 and Jean did almost all of that.
> All comments welcome!
> Francis
>
RE: Update of 4 docs from Getting Started branch
Posted by Dennis Hamilton <or...@msn.com>.
Without a pull request, I am unclear how you expect anyone to see this unless you mean for us to look at your fork?
That is, at the FJCC/openoffice-docs Getting-Started branch?
<https://github.com/FJCC/openoffice-docs/tree/Getting-Sarted-Guide>
There I see your 4-document updates earlier today in the Review folder there.
Francis, if you enable Issues and Discussions on your fork, others can comment on the changes you have there before you ask for them to be pulled to Apache/openoffice-docs.
There I could have told you that where you made the change in AOOO41GS1.odt, it should be "The subscription is needed ... "
- Dennis
PS: Odd side note. Apparently my default for .odt is Microsoft Word. It opened the Preface just fine, and showed me the comments from Jean and you also. I then re-opened in Writer. There is nor visible difference in the document that is presented.
-----Original Message-----
From: F Campos Costero <fj...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 11:20
To: doc@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Update of 4 docs from Getting Started branch
I just pushed my first revision of the first four sub documents of the Getting Started Guide (AOO41GS1 - AOO41GS4). I have not made a pull request yet. Since this is a new process for everyone, I thought Keith, Marcia or someone else might want an early look. I only turned on Record Changes for
GS3 and GS4. Sorry! The biggest change was incorporation of the Sidebar in
AOO41GS2 and Jean did almost all of that.
All comments welcome!
Francis
Re: Update of 4 docs from Getting Started branch
Posted by "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net>.
On 2/10/2021 2:19 PM, F Campos Costero wrote:
> I just pushed my first revision of the first four sub documents of the
> Getting Started Guide (AOO41GS1 - AOO41GS4). I have not made a pull request
> yet. Since this is a new process for everyone, I thought Keith, Marcia or
> someone else might want an early look. I only turned on Record Changes for
> GS3 and GS4. Sorry! The biggest change was incorporation of the Sidebar in
> AOO41GS2 and Jean did almost all of that.
> All comments welcome!
> Francis
>
What I had outlined in the proposed process document was to use PR
requests to move changes back into the Review folder on the repository,
notify the list that it was ready for review. Once the review cycle was
complete it would be moved to the Published site.
I had hoped to have GitHub issues and projects setup and working know,
but I have run into a snag getting the two to communicate. I am spending
most of my time on getting that working.
For know it may work better to look at your fork.
Regards
Keith