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Posted to users@tomee.apache.org by Ma...@t-systems.com on 2022/06/15 14:15:34 UTC
Planned release date for TomEE 9.x
Hello TomEE users,
is there already an approximate date when TomEE 9.x will be released? We are very interested in migrating to the Jakarta namespace.
BR,
Manuel
RE: Approx. release date for TomEE 10.x
Posted by COURTAULT Francois <fr...@thalesgroup.com.INVALID>.
Hello Jean-Louis,
If I have understood:
- TomEE 9 currently uses Tomcat 10.0.x and is aligned with Jakarta EE 9.1 and µProfile 5.0 fine
- TomEE10 would use Tomcat 10.1.x and would be aligned with Jakarta EE 10 and µProfile 6.0?
- TomEE11 would use Tomcat 11.0.x and would be aligned with Jakarta EE 11
But Richard wrote: " TomEE 9 to use Tomcat 10.1.x " because of the Tomcat 10.0.x EOL.
This is where there is confusion according to me because if TomEE 9 will use Tomcat 10.1.x instead => TomEE 9 would have some Jakarta EE 10 stuff due to Tomcat 10.1.x usage.
So maybe TomEE 9 would be a temporary release and the focus could be to start TomEE 10.x relying on Tomcat 10.1.x as soon as possible.
It's just my point of view of course.
I have seen that ActiveMQ has released 5.18.0 version which is JMS 2.0 certified :-)
When would you include this version in TomEE ? and in which TomEE version ?
Best Regards.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com>
Sent: dimanche 2 avril 2023 16:47
To: users@tomee.apache.org
Subject: Re: Approx. release date for TomEE 10.x
-1 to change naming convention.
TomEE version is aligned with the EE version implemented. Way either for users. TomEE 9 implements EE 9, TomEE 10 implements EE 11, etc
We use Tomcat, Hibernate, OpenJPA, CXF, OpenWebBeans, and they all have their own rules we don't get to decide or say a word. So we want to stay away. Tomcat, as you mentioned, has Tomcat 10.x and 10.1.x and Tomcat 11.x.
It's not the first time, there was also Tomcat 8.5.x. Some get discontinued, some versions get added in the middle as it fits the project and that's ok.
--
Jean-Louis Monteiro
http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
http://www.tomitribe.com
On Sat, Apr 1, 2023 at 12:18 PM COURTAULT Francois <fr...@thalesgroup.com.invalid> wrote:
> Hello Richard,
>
> You haven't the choice right ? You have to do that: qualifying TomEE
> 9.x on Tomcat 10.1.x.
>
> In order to avoid any confusion, it could be also nice to align on the
> version meaning TomEE 10 runing Tomcat 10.1.x and TomEE 11 runing
> Tomcat
> 11 (M4 as of today). Just my 2 cents.
>
> Best Regards.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Zowalla <rz...@apache.org>
> Sent: vendredi 31 mars 2023 15:07
> To: users@tomee.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Approx. release date for TomEE 10.x
>
> Hi,
>
> we had some discussion on various lists, that we most likely cannot
> eol 9.x before having a 10.x ready - otherwise ppl won't migrate ;)
>
> The bad thing is, that Tomcat 10.0.x (targeting EE9), which is the
> basis for TomEE 9, got eol'ed by the Tomcat team and won't receive any
> security/bug fixes.
>
> We still need to figure out, if upgrading TomEE 9 to use Tomcat 10.1.x
> (targeting EE10) will have a significant impact on the EE9.1 tck results.
>
> To determine a first impact level on the tck side, we need to run the
> TCK signature tests on a TomEE 9.x build with a Tomcat 10.1.x under the covers.
>
> Any help with it is welcome.
>
> Gruß
> Richard
>
>
>
>
> Am Mittwoch, dem 29.03.2023 um 12:42 +0000 schrieb
> Manuel.Gamerdinger@t-systems.com:
> > Hello TomEE users,
> >
> > is there already an approximate date when TomEE 10.x will be released?
> > I have read this thread with interest and attention. We are in the
> > process of migrating to 9.x and the question is now how long the
> > support for 9.x is given.
> >
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/jz4y20q039cckcv436xvtgzr1ofmostj
> >
> >
> >
> > BR,
> > Manuel
>
>
Re: Approx. release date for TomEE 10.x
Posted by Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com>.
-1 to change naming convention.
TomEE version is aligned with the EE version implemented. Way either for
users. TomEE 9 implements EE 9, TomEE 10 implements EE 11, etc
We use Tomcat, Hibernate, OpenJPA, CXF, OpenWebBeans, and they all have
their own rules we don't get to decide or say a word. So we want to stay
away. Tomcat, as you mentioned, has Tomcat 10.x and 10.1.x and Tomcat 11.x.
It's not the first time, there was also Tomcat 8.5.x. Some get
discontinued, some versions get added in the middle as it fits the project
and that's ok.
--
Jean-Louis Monteiro
http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
http://www.tomitribe.com
On Sat, Apr 1, 2023 at 12:18 PM COURTAULT Francois
<fr...@thalesgroup.com.invalid> wrote:
> Hello Richard,
>
> You haven't the choice right ? You have to do that: qualifying TomEE 9.x
> on Tomcat 10.1.x.
>
> In order to avoid any confusion, it could be also nice to align on the
> version meaning TomEE 10 runing Tomcat 10.1.x and TomEE 11 runing Tomcat
> 11 (M4 as of today). Just my 2 cents.
>
> Best Regards.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Zowalla <rz...@apache.org>
> Sent: vendredi 31 mars 2023 15:07
> To: users@tomee.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Approx. release date for TomEE 10.x
>
> Hi,
>
> we had some discussion on various lists, that we most likely cannot eol
> 9.x before having a 10.x ready - otherwise ppl won't migrate ;)
>
> The bad thing is, that Tomcat 10.0.x (targeting EE9), which is the basis
> for TomEE 9, got eol'ed by the Tomcat team and won't receive any
> security/bug fixes.
>
> We still need to figure out, if upgrading TomEE 9 to use Tomcat 10.1.x
> (targeting EE10) will have a significant impact on the EE9.1 tck results.
>
> To determine a first impact level on the tck side, we need to run the TCK
> signature tests on a TomEE 9.x build with a Tomcat 10.1.x under the covers.
>
> Any help with it is welcome.
>
> Gruß
> Richard
>
>
>
>
> Am Mittwoch, dem 29.03.2023 um 12:42 +0000 schrieb
> Manuel.Gamerdinger@t-systems.com:
> > Hello TomEE users,
> >
> > is there already an approximate date when TomEE 10.x will be released?
> > I have read this thread with interest and attention. We are in the
> > process of migrating to 9.x and the question is now how long the
> > support for 9.x is given.
> >
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/jz4y20q039cckcv436xvtgzr1ofmostj
> >
> >
> >
> > BR,
> > Manuel
>
>
RE: Approx. release date for TomEE 10.x
Posted by COURTAULT Francois <fr...@thalesgroup.com.INVALID>.
Hello Richard,
You haven't the choice right ? You have to do that: qualifying TomEE 9.x on Tomcat 10.1.x.
In order to avoid any confusion, it could be also nice to align on the version meaning TomEE 10 runing Tomcat 10.1.x and TomEE 11 runing Tomcat 11 (M4 as of today). Just my 2 cents.
Best Regards.
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Zowalla <rz...@apache.org>
Sent: vendredi 31 mars 2023 15:07
To: users@tomee.apache.org
Subject: Re: Approx. release date for TomEE 10.x
Hi,
we had some discussion on various lists, that we most likely cannot eol 9.x before having a 10.x ready - otherwise ppl won't migrate ;)
The bad thing is, that Tomcat 10.0.x (targeting EE9), which is the basis for TomEE 9, got eol'ed by the Tomcat team and won't receive any security/bug fixes.
We still need to figure out, if upgrading TomEE 9 to use Tomcat 10.1.x (targeting EE10) will have a significant impact on the EE9.1 tck results.
To determine a first impact level on the tck side, we need to run the TCK signature tests on a TomEE 9.x build with a Tomcat 10.1.x under the covers.
Any help with it is welcome.
Gruß
Richard
Am Mittwoch, dem 29.03.2023 um 12:42 +0000 schrieb
Manuel.Gamerdinger@t-systems.com:
> Hello TomEE users,
>
> is there already an approximate date when TomEE 10.x will be released?
> I have read this thread with interest and attention. We are in the
> process of migrating to 9.x and the question is now how long the
> support for 9.x is given.
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/jz4y20q039cckcv436xvtgzr1ofmostj
>
>
>
> BR,
> Manuel
Re: Approx. release date for TomEE 10.x
Posted by David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>.
> On Apr 4, 2023, at 11:40 PM, Manuel.Gamerdinger@t-systems.com wrote:
>
> Hello David,
>
> thanks for your reply and your advice to switch to TomEE 9.x first. That already helps me a lot.
> I also thank you all for your great volunteer work. My skills are probably not enough to contribute actively. But I am promoting TomEE and I think the more users use TomEE the more volunteers there will be.
Your skills are definitely enough. This project is so dangerously low on resources anyone of any skill can have positive impact.
Let me know if you’d like to help in some way and I can find something that matches your skill and time.
-David
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. April 2023 01:38
> An: users@tomee.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Approx. release date for TomEE 10.x
>
> Hi Manuel,
>
> The best advice would be to move to TomEE 9 and not wait for TomEE 10.
>
> The trick with answering timeline questions is all development is entirely based on volunteers. Who will volunteer what and when is never known in advance, and that basically means it’s impossible to guess the future. For example TomEE 9 took over 2 years and there was a gap between 9.0.0-M7 and 9.0.0-M8 of over a year, which I don’t think anyone would have been able to predict.
>
> Note we volunteers are always looking for more volunteers, so if you or anyone else is interested in helping with the project you would be surrounded by people blissfully happy to collaborate and treat you as an equal on the project.
>
>
> -David
>
>
>> On Apr 3, 2023, at 12:50 AM, Manuel.Gamerdinger@t-systems.com wrote:
>>
>> Hello Richard, hello TomEE users
>>
>> thank you very much for your answer. I understand this crux with Tomcat 10 eol. My real question is when approximately (accuracy +- 6 months) can we expect a TomEE 10.x release.
>> Our decision makers are very interested in this. If the release should come e.g. only in Q2/2024, then it is completely clear that we want to go the intermediate step over 9.x.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Manuel
>>
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Richard Zowalla <rz...@apache.org>
>> Gesendet: Freitag, 31. März 2023 15:07
>> An: users@tomee.apache.org
>> Betreff: Re: Approx. release date for TomEE 10.x
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> we had some discussion on various lists, that we most likely cannot
>> eol 9.x before having a 10.x ready - otherwise ppl won't migrate ;)
>>
>> The bad thing is, that Tomcat 10.0.x (targeting EE9), which is the basis for TomEE 9, got eol'ed by the Tomcat team and won't receive any security/bug fixes.
>>
>> We still need to figure out, if upgrading TomEE 9 to use Tomcat 10.1.x (targeting EE10) will have a significant impact on the EE9.1 tck results.
>>
>> To determine a first impact level on the tck side, we need to run the TCK signature tests on a TomEE 9.x build with a Tomcat 10.1.x under the covers.
>>
>> Any help with it is welcome.
>>
>> Gruß
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am Mittwoch, dem 29.03.2023 um 12:42 +0000 schrieb
>> Manuel.Gamerdinger@t-systems.com:
>>> Hello TomEE users,
>>>
>>> is there already an approximate date when TomEE 10.x will be released?
>>> I have read this thread with interest and attention. We are in the
>>> process of migrating to 9.x and the question is now how long the
>>> support for 9.x is given.
>>>
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/jz4y20q039cckcv436xvtgzr1ofmostj
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> BR,
>>> Manuel
>>
>
AW: Approx. release date for TomEE 10.x
Posted by Ma...@t-systems.com.
Hello David,
thanks for your reply and your advice to switch to TomEE 9.x first. That already helps me a lot.
I also thank you all for your great volunteer work. My skills are probably not enough to contribute actively. But I am promoting TomEE and I think the more users use TomEE the more volunteers there will be.
Best regards,
Manuel
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. April 2023 01:38
An: users@tomee.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Approx. release date for TomEE 10.x
Hi Manuel,
The best advice would be to move to TomEE 9 and not wait for TomEE 10.
The trick with answering timeline questions is all development is entirely based on volunteers. Who will volunteer what and when is never known in advance, and that basically means it’s impossible to guess the future. For example TomEE 9 took over 2 years and there was a gap between 9.0.0-M7 and 9.0.0-M8 of over a year, which I don’t think anyone would have been able to predict.
Note we volunteers are always looking for more volunteers, so if you or anyone else is interested in helping with the project you would be surrounded by people blissfully happy to collaborate and treat you as an equal on the project.
-David
> On Apr 3, 2023, at 12:50 AM, Manuel.Gamerdinger@t-systems.com wrote:
>
> Hello Richard, hello TomEE users
>
> thank you very much for your answer. I understand this crux with Tomcat 10 eol. My real question is when approximately (accuracy +- 6 months) can we expect a TomEE 10.x release.
> Our decision makers are very interested in this. If the release should come e.g. only in Q2/2024, then it is completely clear that we want to go the intermediate step over 9.x.
>
> Best regards,
> Manuel
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Richard Zowalla <rz...@apache.org>
> Gesendet: Freitag, 31. März 2023 15:07
> An: users@tomee.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Approx. release date for TomEE 10.x
>
> Hi,
>
> we had some discussion on various lists, that we most likely cannot
> eol 9.x before having a 10.x ready - otherwise ppl won't migrate ;)
>
> The bad thing is, that Tomcat 10.0.x (targeting EE9), which is the basis for TomEE 9, got eol'ed by the Tomcat team and won't receive any security/bug fixes.
>
> We still need to figure out, if upgrading TomEE 9 to use Tomcat 10.1.x (targeting EE10) will have a significant impact on the EE9.1 tck results.
>
> To determine a first impact level on the tck side, we need to run the TCK signature tests on a TomEE 9.x build with a Tomcat 10.1.x under the covers.
>
> Any help with it is welcome.
>
> Gruß
> Richard
>
>
>
>
> Am Mittwoch, dem 29.03.2023 um 12:42 +0000 schrieb
> Manuel.Gamerdinger@t-systems.com:
>> Hello TomEE users,
>>
>> is there already an approximate date when TomEE 10.x will be released?
>> I have read this thread with interest and attention. We are in the
>> process of migrating to 9.x and the question is now how long the
>> support for 9.x is given.
>>
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/jz4y20q039cckcv436xvtgzr1ofmostj
>>
>>
>>
>> BR,
>> Manuel
>
Re: Approx. release date for TomEE 10.x
Posted by David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>.
Hi Manuel,
The best advice would be to move to TomEE 9 and not wait for TomEE 10.
The trick with answering timeline questions is all development is entirely based on volunteers. Who will volunteer what and when is never known in advance, and that basically means it’s impossible to guess the future. For example TomEE 9 took over 2 years and there was a gap between 9.0.0-M7 and 9.0.0-M8 of over a year, which I don’t think anyone would have been able to predict.
Note we volunteers are always looking for more volunteers, so if you or anyone else is interested in helping with the project you would be surrounded by people blissfully happy to collaborate and treat you as an equal on the project.
-David
> On Apr 3, 2023, at 12:50 AM, Manuel.Gamerdinger@t-systems.com wrote:
>
> Hello Richard, hello TomEE users
>
> thank you very much for your answer. I understand this crux with Tomcat 10 eol. My real question is when approximately (accuracy +- 6 months) can we expect a TomEE 10.x release.
> Our decision makers are very interested in this. If the release should come e.g. only in Q2/2024, then it is completely clear that we want to go the intermediate step over 9.x.
>
> Best regards,
> Manuel
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Richard Zowalla <rz...@apache.org>
> Gesendet: Freitag, 31. März 2023 15:07
> An: users@tomee.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Approx. release date for TomEE 10.x
>
> Hi,
>
> we had some discussion on various lists, that we most likely cannot eol 9.x before having a 10.x ready - otherwise ppl won't migrate ;)
>
> The bad thing is, that Tomcat 10.0.x (targeting EE9), which is the basis for TomEE 9, got eol'ed by the Tomcat team and won't receive any security/bug fixes.
>
> We still need to figure out, if upgrading TomEE 9 to use Tomcat 10.1.x (targeting EE10) will have a significant impact on the EE9.1 tck results.
>
> To determine a first impact level on the tck side, we need to run the TCK signature tests on a TomEE 9.x build with a Tomcat 10.1.x under the covers.
>
> Any help with it is welcome.
>
> Gruß
> Richard
>
>
>
>
> Am Mittwoch, dem 29.03.2023 um 12:42 +0000 schrieb
> Manuel.Gamerdinger@t-systems.com:
>> Hello TomEE users,
>>
>> is there already an approximate date when TomEE 10.x will be released?
>> I have read this thread with interest and attention. We are in the
>> process of migrating to 9.x and the question is now how long the
>> support for 9.x is given.
>>
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/jz4y20q039cckcv436xvtgzr1ofmostj
>>
>>
>>
>> BR,
>> Manuel
>
AW: Approx. release date for TomEE 10.x
Posted by Ma...@t-systems.com.
Hello Richard, hello TomEE users
thank you very much for your answer. I understand this crux with Tomcat 10 eol. My real question is when approximately (accuracy +- 6 months) can we expect a TomEE 10.x release.
Our decision makers are very interested in this. If the release should come e.g. only in Q2/2024, then it is completely clear that we want to go the intermediate step over 9.x.
Best regards,
Manuel
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Richard Zowalla <rz...@apache.org>
Gesendet: Freitag, 31. März 2023 15:07
An: users@tomee.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Approx. release date for TomEE 10.x
Hi,
we had some discussion on various lists, that we most likely cannot eol 9.x before having a 10.x ready - otherwise ppl won't migrate ;)
The bad thing is, that Tomcat 10.0.x (targeting EE9), which is the basis for TomEE 9, got eol'ed by the Tomcat team and won't receive any security/bug fixes.
We still need to figure out, if upgrading TomEE 9 to use Tomcat 10.1.x (targeting EE10) will have a significant impact on the EE9.1 tck results.
To determine a first impact level on the tck side, we need to run the TCK signature tests on a TomEE 9.x build with a Tomcat 10.1.x under the covers.
Any help with it is welcome.
Gruß
Richard
Am Mittwoch, dem 29.03.2023 um 12:42 +0000 schrieb
Manuel.Gamerdinger@t-systems.com:
> Hello TomEE users,
>
> is there already an approximate date when TomEE 10.x will be released?
> I have read this thread with interest and attention. We are in the
> process of migrating to 9.x and the question is now how long the
> support for 9.x is given.
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/jz4y20q039cckcv436xvtgzr1ofmostj
>
>
>
> BR,
> Manuel
Re: Approx. release date for TomEE 10.x
Posted by Richard Zowalla <rz...@apache.org>.
Hi,
we had some discussion on various lists, that we most likely cannot eol
9.x before having a 10.x ready - otherwise ppl won't migrate ;)
The bad thing is, that Tomcat 10.0.x (targeting EE9), which is the
basis for TomEE 9, got eol'ed by the Tomcat team and won't receive any
security/bug fixes.
We still need to figure out, if upgrading TomEE 9 to use Tomcat 10.1.x
(targeting EE10) will have a significant impact on the EE9.1 tck
results.
To determine a first impact level on the tck side, we need to run the
TCK signature tests on a TomEE 9.x build with a Tomcat 10.1.x under the
covers.
Any help with it is welcome.
Gruß
Richard
Am Mittwoch, dem 29.03.2023 um 12:42 +0000 schrieb
Manuel.Gamerdinger@t-systems.com:
> Hello TomEE users,
>
> is there already an approximate date when TomEE 10.x will be
> released?
> I have read this thread with interest and attention. We are in the
> process of migrating to 9.x and the question is now how long the
> support for 9.x is given.
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/jz4y20q039cckcv436xvtgzr1ofmostj
>
>
>
> BR,
> Manuel
Approx. release date for TomEE 10.x
Posted by Ma...@t-systems.com.
Hello TomEE users,
is there already an approximate date when TomEE 10.x will be released?
I have read this thread with interest and attention. We are in the process of migrating to 9.x and the question is now how long the support for 9.x is given.
https://lists.apache.org/thread/jz4y20q039cckcv436xvtgzr1ofmostj
BR,
Manuel
Re: Planned release date for TomEE 9.x
Posted by Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com>.
Awesome.
Thanks for the detailed feedback
--
Jean-Louis Monteiro
http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
http://www.tomitribe.com
On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 9:54 AM <Ma...@t-systems.com> wrote:
> Hello Rod,
>
> Some background information. We migrated from WebSphere 9.5 traditional to
> TomEE+ 8.
>
> Below is our experience with the migration and the improvements we have
> mentioned:
>
> - Easy configuration and massively reduced complexity, no more dealing
> with Nodes, Cells, NodeManagers, Clusters and Servers etc.
> - Smooth migration, high code compatibility even for exotic things like
> JCA adapters
> - TomEE supports MicroProfile and we are ready for the future of
> microservice architecture, e.g. we used already MicroProfile Config for
> environment configuration
> - TomEE suppors Java EE8, WebSphere traditional stops at Java EE7
> - TomEE with Arquillian works without any problems. With WebSphere we
> never got this to work and we had to implement a workaround with Glassfish
> - To date, we have noted only minor issues with TomEE
> - Developer experience end efficiency (startup times, faster debugging,
> stability, hode code replacement which actually works)
> - Application performance identical, much faster deployment times
> - TomEE with Docker and Kubernetes actually works, with WebSphere our
> project on Docker was not compatible
> - Zero licence costs and licence limitations (e.g. virtualized operation)
>
> BR,
> Manuel
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jenkins, Rodney J (Rod) <JE...@nationwide.com>
> Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Juni 2022 17:50
> An: users@tomee.apache.org
> Betreff: RE: Planned release date for TomEE 9.x
>
> Manuel,
>
> I would like to know more about something you said:
>
> <<<
> We recently migrated from WebSphere to TomEE 8, what an improvement!!
> >>>
>
> Would you please elaborate? This may be helpful to some people I work
> with.
>
> Thank you,
> Rod.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2022 10:19 AM
> To: users@tomee.apache.org
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] AW: Planned release date for TomEE 9.x
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Hi Jean,
>
> thank you for this very quick response 😊.
> You helped us a lot! We are already looking forward to the final release.
>
> BTW: TomEE rocks!! We recently migrated from WebSphere to TomEE 8, what an
> improvement!!
>
> Best,
> Manuel
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com>
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Juni 2022 16:25
> An: users@tomee.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Planned release date for TomEE 9.x
>
> Hi Manuel,
>
> The build and the TCK looks good but we still have some issues to fix. We
> are basically more or less equivalent to TomEE 8.x for Jakarta EE 8.
> We decided to release all SNAPSHOT components to create a new milestone
> (Apache BVal, BatchEE, Mail, Activation, OpenWebBeans, Transaction Manager,
> etc)
>
> Aside from BatchEE, I think we are looking good, so I'm expecting a
> milestone to be released at the end of the month. Then we'll continue
> towards solving the remaining build issues. We might want to address the
> remaining TCK issues which may take some time. It really depends how many
> people we can get to help.
>
> With the current situation, I think a new milestone is feasible before the
> end of the month. Then in July I'd like to get the remaining build issues
> solved and finally address TCK issues in August. Of course it's summer
> holidays, so we might not get enough manpower. We'll see.
>
> If everything goes well, we could get something final and compliant early
> in Septembre. If the small TCK issues or compliancy is not much of a
> question, then from the next milestone on, we'll be stable and in a good
> shape.
>
> Hope it helps
>
>
> --
> Jean-Louis Monteiro
> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> http://www.tomitribe.com
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 4:16 PM <Ma...@t-systems.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello TomEE users,
> >
> > is there already an approximate date when TomEE 9.x will be released?
> > We are very interested in migrating to the Jakarta namespace.
> >
> > BR,
> > Manuel
> >
>
AW: Planned release date for TomEE 9.x
Posted by Ma...@t-systems.com.
Hello Rod,
Some background information. We migrated from WebSphere 9.5 traditional to TomEE+ 8.
Below is our experience with the migration and the improvements we have mentioned:
- Easy configuration and massively reduced complexity, no more dealing with Nodes, Cells, NodeManagers, Clusters and Servers etc.
- Smooth migration, high code compatibility even for exotic things like JCA adapters
- TomEE supports MicroProfile and we are ready for the future of microservice architecture, e.g. we used already MicroProfile Config for environment configuration
- TomEE suppors Java EE8, WebSphere traditional stops at Java EE7
- TomEE with Arquillian works without any problems. With WebSphere we never got this to work and we had to implement a workaround with Glassfish
- To date, we have noted only minor issues with TomEE
- Developer experience end efficiency (startup times, faster debugging, stability, hode code replacement which actually works)
- Application performance identical, much faster deployment times
- TomEE with Docker and Kubernetes actually works, with WebSphere our project on Docker was not compatible
- Zero licence costs and licence limitations (e.g. virtualized operation)
BR,
Manuel
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Jenkins, Rodney J (Rod) <JE...@nationwide.com>
Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Juni 2022 17:50
An: users@tomee.apache.org
Betreff: RE: Planned release date for TomEE 9.x
Manuel,
I would like to know more about something you said:
<<<
We recently migrated from WebSphere to TomEE 8, what an improvement!!
>>>
Would you please elaborate? This may be helpful to some people I work with.
Thank you,
Rod.
-----Original Message-----
From: Manuel.Gamerdinger@t-systems.com <Ma...@t-systems.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2022 10:19 AM
To: users@tomee.apache.org
Subject: [EXTERNAL] AW: Planned release date for TomEE 9.x
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Hi Jean,
thank you for this very quick response 😊.
You helped us a lot! We are already looking forward to the final release.
BTW: TomEE rocks!! We recently migrated from WebSphere to TomEE 8, what an improvement!!
Best,
Manuel
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Juni 2022 16:25
An: users@tomee.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Planned release date for TomEE 9.x
Hi Manuel,
The build and the TCK looks good but we still have some issues to fix. We are basically more or less equivalent to TomEE 8.x for Jakarta EE 8.
We decided to release all SNAPSHOT components to create a new milestone (Apache BVal, BatchEE, Mail, Activation, OpenWebBeans, Transaction Manager,
etc)
Aside from BatchEE, I think we are looking good, so I'm expecting a milestone to be released at the end of the month. Then we'll continue towards solving the remaining build issues. We might want to address the remaining TCK issues which may take some time. It really depends how many people we can get to help.
With the current situation, I think a new milestone is feasible before the end of the month. Then in July I'd like to get the remaining build issues solved and finally address TCK issues in August. Of course it's summer holidays, so we might not get enough manpower. We'll see.
If everything goes well, we could get something final and compliant early in Septembre. If the small TCK issues or compliancy is not much of a question, then from the next milestone on, we'll be stable and in a good shape.
Hope it helps
--
Jean-Louis Monteiro
http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
http://www.tomitribe.com
On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 4:16 PM <Ma...@t-systems.com> wrote:
> Hello TomEE users,
>
> is there already an approximate date when TomEE 9.x will be released?
> We are very interested in migrating to the Jakarta namespace.
>
> BR,
> Manuel
>
Re: Planned release date for TomEE 9.x
Posted by hantsy bai <ha...@gmail.com>.
I am waiting for the new maven plugin and arquillian adapters for TomEE 9.
---
Regards,
*Hantsy Bai*
Self-employed consultant, fullstack developer, agile coach,
freelancer/remote worker
GitHub: https://github.com/hantsy
Twitter: https://twitter.com/@hantsy
Medium: https://medium.com/@hantsy
On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 11:51 PM Jenkins, Rodney J (Rod) <
JENKIR14@nationwide.com> wrote:
> Manuel,
>
> I would like to know more about something you said:
>
> <<<
> We recently migrated from WebSphere to TomEE 8, what an improvement!!
> >>>
>
> Would you please elaborate? This may be helpful to some people I work
> with.
>
> Thank you,
> Rod.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Manuel.Gamerdinger@t-systems.com <Ma...@t-systems.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2022 10:19 AM
> To: users@tomee.apache.org
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] AW: Planned release date for TomEE 9.x
>
> Nationwide Information Security Warning: This is an EXTERNAL email. Use
> CAUTION before clicking on links, opening attachments, or responding.
> (Sender: users-return-28031-JENKIR14=nationwide.com@tomee.apache.org)
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Hi Jean,
>
> thank you for this very quick response 😊.
> You helped us a lot! We are already looking forward to the final release.
>
> BTW: TomEE rocks!! We recently migrated from WebSphere to TomEE 8, what an
> improvement!!
>
> Best,
> Manuel
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com>
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Juni 2022 16:25
> An: users@tomee.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Planned release date for TomEE 9.x
>
> Hi Manuel,
>
> The build and the TCK looks good but we still have some issues to fix. We
> are basically more or less equivalent to TomEE 8.x for Jakarta EE 8.
> We decided to release all SNAPSHOT components to create a new milestone
> (Apache BVal, BatchEE, Mail, Activation, OpenWebBeans, Transaction Manager,
> etc)
>
> Aside from BatchEE, I think we are looking good, so I'm expecting a
> milestone to be released at the end of the month. Then we'll continue
> towards solving the remaining build issues. We might want to address the
> remaining TCK issues which may take some time. It really depends how many
> people we can get to help.
>
> With the current situation, I think a new milestone is feasible before the
> end of the month. Then in July I'd like to get the remaining build issues
> solved and finally address TCK issues in August. Of course it's summer
> holidays, so we might not get enough manpower. We'll see.
>
> If everything goes well, we could get something final and compliant early
> in Septembre. If the small TCK issues or compliancy is not much of a
> question, then from the next milestone on, we'll be stable and in a good
> shape.
>
> Hope it helps
>
>
> --
> Jean-Louis Monteiro
> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> http://www.tomitribe.com
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 4:16 PM <Ma...@t-systems.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello TomEE users,
> >
> > is there already an approximate date when TomEE 9.x will be released?
> > We are very interested in migrating to the Jakarta namespace.
> >
> > BR,
> > Manuel
> >
>
RE: Planned release date for TomEE 9.x
Posted by "Jenkins, Rodney J (Rod)" <JE...@nationwide.com>.
Manuel,
I would like to know more about something you said:
<<<
We recently migrated from WebSphere to TomEE 8, what an improvement!!
>>>
Would you please elaborate? This may be helpful to some people I work with.
Thank you,
Rod.
-----Original Message-----
From: Manuel.Gamerdinger@t-systems.com <Ma...@t-systems.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2022 10:19 AM
To: users@tomee.apache.org
Subject: [EXTERNAL] AW: Planned release date for TomEE 9.x
Nationwide Information Security Warning: This is an EXTERNAL email. Use CAUTION before clicking on links, opening attachments, or responding. (Sender: users-return-28031-JENKIR14=nationwide.com@tomee.apache.org)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi Jean,
thank you for this very quick response 😊.
You helped us a lot! We are already looking forward to the final release.
BTW: TomEE rocks!! We recently migrated from WebSphere to TomEE 8, what an improvement!!
Best,
Manuel
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Juni 2022 16:25
An: users@tomee.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Planned release date for TomEE 9.x
Hi Manuel,
The build and the TCK looks good but we still have some issues to fix. We are basically more or less equivalent to TomEE 8.x for Jakarta EE 8.
We decided to release all SNAPSHOT components to create a new milestone (Apache BVal, BatchEE, Mail, Activation, OpenWebBeans, Transaction Manager,
etc)
Aside from BatchEE, I think we are looking good, so I'm expecting a milestone to be released at the end of the month. Then we'll continue towards solving the remaining build issues. We might want to address the remaining TCK issues which may take some time. It really depends how many people we can get to help.
With the current situation, I think a new milestone is feasible before the end of the month. Then in July I'd like to get the remaining build issues solved and finally address TCK issues in August. Of course it's summer holidays, so we might not get enough manpower. We'll see.
If everything goes well, we could get something final and compliant early in Septembre. If the small TCK issues or compliancy is not much of a question, then from the next milestone on, we'll be stable and in a good shape.
Hope it helps
--
Jean-Louis Monteiro
http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
http://www.tomitribe.com
On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 4:16 PM <Ma...@t-systems.com> wrote:
> Hello TomEE users,
>
> is there already an approximate date when TomEE 9.x will be released?
> We are very interested in migrating to the Jakarta namespace.
>
> BR,
> Manuel
>
Re: Planned release date for TomEE 9.x
Posted by Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com>.
You are very welcome.
If during migration you saw things that could have helped you, let us know,
or fill a JIRA ticket. If you had issues, you are probably not alone.
I created the last release and vote is open for 72 hours for the jBatch
implementation (BatchEE). As soon as this one is done, we should be running
out of SNAPSHOT and move on with the plan.
--
Jean-Louis Monteiro
http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
http://www.tomitribe.com
On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 5:19 PM <Ma...@t-systems.com> wrote:
> Hi Jean,
>
> thank you for this very quick response 😊.
> You helped us a lot! We are already looking forward to the final release.
>
> BTW: TomEE rocks!! We recently migrated from WebSphere to TomEE 8, what an
> improvement!!
>
> Best,
> Manuel
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com>
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Juni 2022 16:25
> An: users@tomee.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Planned release date for TomEE 9.x
>
> Hi Manuel,
>
> The build and the TCK looks good but we still have some issues to fix. We
> are basically more or less equivalent to TomEE 8.x for Jakarta EE 8.
> We decided to release all SNAPSHOT components to create a new milestone
> (Apache BVal, BatchEE, Mail, Activation, OpenWebBeans, Transaction Manager,
> etc)
>
> Aside from BatchEE, I think we are looking good, so I'm expecting a
> milestone to be released at the end of the month. Then we'll continue
> towards solving the remaining build issues. We might want to address the
> remaining TCK issues which may take some time. It really depends how many
> people we can get to help.
>
> With the current situation, I think a new milestone is feasible before the
> end of the month. Then in July I'd like to get the remaining build issues
> solved and finally address TCK issues in August. Of course it's summer
> holidays, so we might not get enough manpower. We'll see.
>
> If everything goes well, we could get something final and compliant early
> in Septembre. If the small TCK issues or compliancy is not much of a
> question, then from the next milestone on, we'll be stable and in a good
> shape.
>
> Hope it helps
>
>
> --
> Jean-Louis Monteiro
> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> http://www.tomitribe.com
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 4:16 PM <Ma...@t-systems.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello TomEE users,
> >
> > is there already an approximate date when TomEE 9.x will be released?
> > We are very interested in migrating to the Jakarta namespace.
> >
> > BR,
> > Manuel
> >
>
AW: Planned release date for TomEE 9.x
Posted by Ma...@t-systems.com.
Hi Jean,
thank you for this very quick response 😊.
You helped us a lot! We are already looking forward to the final release.
BTW: TomEE rocks!! We recently migrated from WebSphere to TomEE 8, what an improvement!!
Best,
Manuel
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Juni 2022 16:25
An: users@tomee.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Planned release date for TomEE 9.x
Hi Manuel,
The build and the TCK looks good but we still have some issues to fix. We are basically more or less equivalent to TomEE 8.x for Jakarta EE 8.
We decided to release all SNAPSHOT components to create a new milestone (Apache BVal, BatchEE, Mail, Activation, OpenWebBeans, Transaction Manager,
etc)
Aside from BatchEE, I think we are looking good, so I'm expecting a milestone to be released at the end of the month. Then we'll continue towards solving the remaining build issues. We might want to address the remaining TCK issues which may take some time. It really depends how many people we can get to help.
With the current situation, I think a new milestone is feasible before the end of the month. Then in July I'd like to get the remaining build issues solved and finally address TCK issues in August. Of course it's summer holidays, so we might not get enough manpower. We'll see.
If everything goes well, we could get something final and compliant early in Septembre. If the small TCK issues or compliancy is not much of a question, then from the next milestone on, we'll be stable and in a good shape.
Hope it helps
--
Jean-Louis Monteiro
http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
http://www.tomitribe.com
On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 4:16 PM <Ma...@t-systems.com> wrote:
> Hello TomEE users,
>
> is there already an approximate date when TomEE 9.x will be released?
> We are very interested in migrating to the Jakarta namespace.
>
> BR,
> Manuel
>
Re: Planned release date for TomEE 9.x
Posted by Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com>.
Hi Manuel,
The build and the TCK looks good but we still have some issues to fix. We
are basically more or less equivalent to TomEE 8.x for Jakarta EE 8.
We decided to release all SNAPSHOT components to create a new milestone
(Apache BVal, BatchEE, Mail, Activation, OpenWebBeans, Transaction Manager,
etc)
Aside from BatchEE, I think we are looking good, so I'm expecting a
milestone to be released at the end of the month. Then we'll continue
towards solving the remaining build issues. We might want to address the
remaining TCK issues which may take some time. It really depends how many
people we can get to help.
With the current situation, I think a new milestone is feasible before the
end of the month. Then in July I'd like to get the remaining build issues
solved and finally address TCK issues in August. Of course it's summer
holidays, so we might not get enough manpower. We'll see.
If everything goes well, we could get something final and compliant early
in Septembre. If the small TCK issues or compliancy is not much of a
question, then from the next milestone on, we'll be stable and in a good
shape.
Hope it helps
--
Jean-Louis Monteiro
http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
http://www.tomitribe.com
On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 4:16 PM <Ma...@t-systems.com> wrote:
> Hello TomEE users,
>
> is there already an approximate date when TomEE 9.x will be released? We
> are very interested in migrating to the Jakarta namespace.
>
> BR,
> Manuel
>