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Posted to dev@geronimo.apache.org by Jegadisan Sankar Kumar <ko...@yahoo.com.sg> on 2003/08/17 16:38:19 UTC
Is a mailing list the best option ?
This is the first open source project that I have joined, but is there a better mechanism compared to a mailing list? Just got back, and check my mail box to find over 200 e-mails. End up having to read replies, and not knowing what the actual questions were.
Would it be better to have a forum like environment, whereby people can track the topics being discussed, and contribute to the ones that are closest to their hearts? At the very least we can view the questions, and the replies.
Also, maybe I need to catch up on my reading, but I seem to notice coding going on, and people starting to patch the system up. Is there any design documentation out? Use cases, sequence diagrams ? all that object oriented design stuff? Would help alot for people to get a holistic view of what is going on in the system
Regards
Jega
Greg Wilkins <gr...@mortbay.com> wrote:
Paul Hammant wrote:
> Daniel,
>
>>> Jira is alleged to be the best.
>>> http://jira.attlassian.com for those that want to play with it.
>>
>>
>> The correct url is: http://jira.atlassian.com
>>
> Indeed. I'm also guilty of not ready Greg's posting too well, which was
> councelling to not use an issue tracker. (Sorry Greg).
I have no problem with using an issue tracker and think that we definitely
should have one.
I just don't think that it will help too much with the problem at hand
now... which is getting lots of patches into a very dynamic system with
a few task loaded committers.
cheers
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Re: Is a mailing list the best option ?
Posted by Jaspreet S Jodhka <ja...@hotpop.com>.
You can also view the mailing list archives at
http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SummarizeList?listId=140
You'll be able to read the entire thread in your browser. This is the
closest you can get to a forum.
Jaspreet
----- Original Message -----
From: "Siva" <si...@sivasundaram.com>
To: <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: Is a mailing list the best option ?
Hi Jega,
Yes.This list is a high volume list but this seems to be the best
solution at the moment.so lets live
with this list for some more time :)
You can find the basic information in the wiki site at
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheJ2EE
If something isnt there,either u can ask in the mailing list or come up with
ur own suggestion.
Thanks
Siva
----- Original Message -----
From: Jegadisan Sankar Kumar
To: geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 8:08 PM
Subject: Is a mailing list the best option ?
This is the first open source project that I have joined, but is there a
better mechanism compared to a mailing list? Just got back, and check my
mail box to find over 200 e-mails. End up having to read replies, and not
knowing what the actual questions were.
Would it be better to have a forum like environment, whereby people can
track the topics being discussed, and contribute to the ones that are
closest to their hearts? At the very least we can view the questions, and
the replies.
Also, maybe I need to catch up on my reading, but I seem to notice
coding going on, and people starting to patch the system up. Is there any
design documentation out? Use cases, sequence diagrams ? all that object
oriented design stuff? Would help alot for people to get a holistic view of
what is going on in the system
Regards
Jega
Re: Is a mailing list the best option ?
Posted by Siva <si...@sivasundaram.com>.
Hi Jega,
Yes.This list is a high volume list but this seems to be the best solution at the moment.so lets live
with this list for some more time :)
You can find the basic information in the wiki site at http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheJ2EE
If something isnt there,either u can ask in the mailing list or come up with ur own suggestion.
Thanks
Siva
----- Original Message -----
From: Jegadisan Sankar Kumar
To: geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 8:08 PM
Subject: Is a mailing list the best option ?
This is the first open source project that I have joined, but is there a better mechanism compared to a mailing list? Just got back, and check my mail box to find over 200 e-mails. End up having to read replies, and not knowing what the actual questions were.
Would it be better to have a forum like environment, whereby people can track the topics being discussed, and contribute to the ones that are closest to their hearts? At the very least we can view the questions, and the replies.
Also, maybe I need to catch up on my reading, but I seem to notice coding going on, and people starting to patch the system up. Is there any design documentation out? Use cases, sequence diagrams ? all that object oriented design stuff? Would help alot for people to get a holistic view of what is going on in the system
Regards
Jega
Re: Is a mailing list the best option ?
Posted by "Daniel S. Haischt" <me...@daniel.stefan.haischt.name>.
beside that if you just need the thread trees, you can configure
many email clients to display them (mutt, mozilla (thunderbird),
M$ entourage etc.).
tho - you have to maintain the subject lines accordingly ...
Richard Monson-Haefel wrote:
> I had to move to Gname because I just don't have the time to wade through
> hundreds of e-mails every day. Personally, I think its an excellent
> alternative to the mailing list. I recommend that people use it, since this
> is such an active list and the project is so broad in scope.
Re: Is a mailing list the best option ?
Posted by Richard Monson-Haefel <Ri...@Monson-Haefel.com>.
I had to move to Gname because I just don't have the time to wade through
hundreds of e-mails every day. Personally, I think its an excellent
alternative to the mailing list. I recommend that people use it, since this
is such an active list and the project is so broad in scope.
On 8/17/03 8:31 AM, in article 3F3F9FDC.1060301@ThoughtWorks.net, "Paul
Hammant" <Pa...@ThoughtWorks.net> wrote:
> Try Gmane if you do not like the Mail-list concept. It is very ususal
> for Apache projects to centre their activities on a mail-list. At least
> it has been for many years now. This is VERY unlikey to change.
>
> - Paul
>
>> This is the first open source project that I have joined, but is there
>> a better mechanism compared to a mailing list? Just got back, and
>> check my mail box to find over 200 e-mails. End up having to read
>> replies, and not knowing what the actual questions were.
>>
>> Would it be better to have a forum like environment, whereby people
>> can track the topics being discussed, and contribute to the ones that
>> are closest to their hearts? At the very least we can view the
>> questions, and the replies.
>>
>> Also, maybe I need to catch up on my reading, but I seem to notice
>> coding going on, and people starting to patch the system up. Is there
>> any design documentation out? Use cases, sequence diagrams ? all that
>> object oriented design stuff? Would help alot for people to get a
>> holistic view of what is going on in the system
>>
Re: Is a mailing list the best option ?
Posted by Paul Hammant <Pa...@ThoughtWorks.net>.
Try Gmane if you do not like the Mail-list concept. It is very ususal
for Apache projects to centre their activities on a mail-list. At least
it has been for many years now. This is VERY unlikey to change.
- Paul
> This is the first open source project that I have joined, but is there
> a better mechanism compared to a mailing list? Just got back, and
> check my mail box to find over 200 e-mails. End up having to read
> replies, and not knowing what the actual questions were.
>
> Would it be better to have a forum like environment, whereby people
> can track the topics being discussed, and contribute to the ones that
> are closest to their hearts? At the very least we can view the
> questions, and the replies.
>
> Also, maybe I need to catch up on my reading, but I seem to notice
> coding going on, and people starting to patch the system up. Is there
> any design documentation out? Use cases, sequence diagrams ? all that
> object oriented design stuff? Would help alot for people to get a
> holistic view of what is going on in the system
>
--
http://www.thoughtworks.com -> The art of heavy lifting.
Home for many Agile practicing, Open Source activists...
Re: Is a mailing list the best option ?
Posted by James Strachan <ja...@yahoo.co.uk>.
If you'd rather a forum style interface why not read the mail list via
your news reader on NNTP via gmane.org.
http://gmane.org/
Or if you really like web interfaces there are archives available.
http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SummarizeList?listId=140
Currently all the documentation is on the Wiki...
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheJ2EE
or on the generated website (which should move soon from my home
directory)...
http://www.apache.org/~jstrachan/geronimo/
On Sunday, August 17, 2003, at 03:38 pm, Jegadisan Sankar Kumar wrote:
> This is the first open source project that I have joined, but is there
> a better mechanism compared to a mailing list? Just got back, and
> check my mail box to find over 200 e-mails. End up having to read
> replies, and not knowing what the actual questions were.
>
> Would it be better to have a forum like environment, whereby people
> can track the topics being discussed, and contribute to the ones that
> are closest to their hearts? At the very least we can view the
> questions, and the replies.
>
> Also, maybe I need to catch up on my reading, but I seem to notice
> coding going on, and people starting to patch the system up. Is there
> any design documentation out? Use cases, sequence diagrams ? all that
> object oriented design stuff? Would help alot for people to get a
> holistic view of what is going on in the system
>
> Regards
> Jega
>
>
> Greg Wilkins <gr...@mortbay.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Paul Hammant wrote:
> > Daniel,
> >
> >>> Jira is alleged to be the best.
> >>> http://jira.attlassian.com for those that want to play with it.
> >>
> >>
> >> The correct url is: http://jira.atlassian.com
> >>
> > Indeed. I'm also guilty of not ready Greg's posting too well, which
> was
> > councelling to not use an issue tracker. (Sorry Greg).
>
>
> I have no problem with using an issue tracker and think that we
> definitely
> should have one.
>
> I just don't think that it will help too much with the problem at hand
> now... which is getting lots of patches into a very dynamic system with
> a few task loaded committers.
>
> cheers
>
>
>
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> - Send free SMS from your PC!
>
>
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Re: Is a mailing list the best option ?
Posted by "Daniel S. Haischt" <me...@daniel.stefan.haischt.name>.
ah ok - i just thought because there is incubator.general,
there should be incubator.geronimo-dev ...
Siva wrote:
> Its already there at gmane
>
> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.geronimo.devel
Re: Is a mailing list the best option ?
Posted by Siva <si...@sivasundaram.com>.
Its already there at gmane
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.geronimo.devel
Siva
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel S. Haischt" <me...@daniel.stefan.haischt.name>
To: <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: Is a mailing list the best option ?
>
> you have to ask them to add geronimo-dev to the group
>
> -> gmane.comp.apache.incubator.geronimo-dev
>
> regards
>
> daniel s. haischt
Re: Is a mailing list the best option ?
Posted by "Daniel S. Haischt" <me...@daniel.stefan.haischt.name>.
just a quick note:
it would be possible to configure innd to accept
email messages from the mailing list and to send
news messages to the mailing list.
beside that there is an option which does not require
any configuration at all. just go to ...
-> http://gmane.org/
they are offering a service similar to the one
described above, which enables one to to read/post
messages to this list via a news reader.
you have to ask them to add geronimo-dev to the group
-> gmane.comp.apache.incubator.geronimo-dev
regards
daniel s. haischt
--
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> If you look at http://nagoya.apache.org, you'll see that there was an
> experiment to use Jive forums at one point (when it was Open Source),
> because they can be tied into the mailing list system. There may also be a
> news interface. Some of that is under discussion. The key issue is tying
> into the mailing list as the core mechanism. NNTP allows that, as did Jive.
> I have not yet looked at Meinds, which is a descendent of the original Open
> Source Jive.
>
> --- Noel
>
> P.S. Please change your e-mail client to post only plain text e-mail, not
> HTML e-mail.
>
RE: Is a mailing list the best option ?
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
If you look at http://nagoya.apache.org, you'll see that there was an
experiment to use Jive forums at one point (when it was Open Source),
because they can be tied into the mailing list system. There may also be a
news interface. Some of that is under discussion. The key issue is tying
into the mailing list as the core mechanism. NNTP allows that, as did Jive.
I have not yet looked at Meinds, which is a descendent of the original Open
Source Jive.
--- Noel
P.S. Please change your e-mail client to post only plain text e-mail, not
HTML e-mail.