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Apache Commons Board Report, September 2007
Apache Commons Board Report, September 2007
Summary
=======
Not that much happened this month.
o A couple of new people on the scene that expressed their
willingness to contribute
o Discussions of "sponsoring" compress with code from TrueZip
- https://truezip.dev.java.net/
- one man show
- ASL2.0
o Consensus on using continuum for nightlies
Releases
========
o None
Infrastructure
==============
o Some problems with the site m2 site builds
o Discussion about nightlies and CI
- build "nightlies" only on commits keeping the last 5
successful build
- pure convenience
- does not replace GUMP (different purpose)
Community
=========
o No new committers
o No new PMC members
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Re: Apache Commons Board Report, September 2007
Posted by Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>.
You'd also need to document it in the NOTICE as the copyright is not
Apache, and in the LICENSE (I think), ie) it's AL 2.0 is not the same
instance as our AL 2.0.
For a small piece of work, it ends up not being worth the effort.
On 9/20/07, Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org> wrote:
> I've always wondered this:
>
> What is the policy on copying code from an external non-Apache ASF-licensed
> project? For example, if someone wanted to take a class from Spring and plop
> it in an Apache project. Is simply being from ASF-licensed code enough?
>
> Paul
>
> On 9/20/07, Torsten Curdt <tc...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 19.09.2007, at 20:56, Henri Yandell wrote:
> >
> > > It would still be code that's not covered by a CLA, so different from
> > > most of the code at the ASF.
> >
> > True. /me wonders why we didn't realize that problem during the
> > discussion :)
> >
> > > I'm not sure how frowned on that would be - probably quite a bit. If
> > > we were copying the code in as a separate module to compress, then
> > > that might be happier.
> >
> > For now I think this was just a discussion. We would need to see if
> > the amount of code would be really worth the trouble.
> >
> > > I suggest we talk with legal-discuss to find
> > > out how we should deal with it if we do decide to go ahead with the
> > > idea.
> >
> > ...but checking with legal discuss would be definitely worthwhile.
> >
> > cheers
> > --
> > Torsten
> >
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Re: Apache Commons Board Report, September 2007
Posted by Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org>.
I've always wondered this:
What is the policy on copying code from an external non-Apache ASF-licensed
project? For example, if someone wanted to take a class from Spring and plop
it in an Apache project. Is simply being from ASF-licensed code enough?
Paul
On 9/20/07, Torsten Curdt <tc...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
> On 19.09.2007, at 20:56, Henri Yandell wrote:
>
> > It would still be code that's not covered by a CLA, so different from
> > most of the code at the ASF.
>
> True. /me wonders why we didn't realize that problem during the
> discussion :)
>
> > I'm not sure how frowned on that would be - probably quite a bit. If
> > we were copying the code in as a separate module to compress, then
> > that might be happier.
>
> For now I think this was just a discussion. We would need to see if
> the amount of code would be really worth the trouble.
>
> > I suggest we talk with legal-discuss to find
> > out how we should deal with it if we do decide to go ahead with the
> > idea.
>
> ...but checking with legal discuss would be definitely worthwhile.
>
> cheers
> --
> Torsten
>
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>
>
Re: Apache Commons Board Report, September 2007
Posted by Torsten Curdt <tc...@apache.org>.
On 19.09.2007, at 20:56, Henri Yandell wrote:
> It would still be code that's not covered by a CLA, so different from
> most of the code at the ASF.
True. /me wonders why we didn't realize that problem during the
discussion :)
> I'm not sure how frowned on that would be - probably quite a bit. If
> we were copying the code in as a separate module to compress, then
> that might be happier.
For now I think this was just a discussion. We would need to see if
the amount of code would be really worth the trouble.
> I suggest we talk with legal-discuss to find
> out how we should deal with it if we do decide to go ahead with the
> idea.
...but checking with legal discuss would be definitely worthwhile.
cheers
--
Torsten
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Re: Apache Commons Board Report, September 2007
Posted by Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>.
It would still be code that's not covered by a CLA, so different from
most of the code at the ASF.
I'm not sure how frowned on that would be - probably quite a bit. If
we were copying the code in as a separate module to compress, then
that might be happier. I suggest we talk with legal-discuss to find
out how we should deal with it if we do decide to go ahead with the
idea.
Hen
On 9/19/07, Torsten Curdt <tc...@apache.org> wrote:
> Sorry, that was not clear indeed.
>
> I think consensus from the discussion was that
>
> o the TrueZip API is not really nice
> o that the there is no real community behind it
>
> So the idea was to *copy* code from it to help "compression" out in
> areas where it needs help.
> As it is ASL2.0 it should be no problem though.
>
> cheers
> --
> Torsten
>
> On 19.09.2007, at 19:43, Henri Yandell wrote:
>
> > Hey Torsten,
> >
> > Feedback from the board report; what did you mean by "sponsoring"
> > below?
> >
> > New Incubator project?
> >
> > Hen
> >
> > On 9/13/07, Torsten Curdt <tc...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> Apache Commons Board Report, September 2007
> >>
> >> Summary
> >> =======
> >>
> >> Not that much happened this month.
> >>
> >> o A couple of new people on the scene that expressed their
> >> willingness to contribute
> >> o Discussions of "sponsoring" compress with code from TrueZip
> >> - https://truezip.dev.java.net/
> >> - one man show
> >> - ASL2.0
> >> o Consensus on using continuum for nightlies
> >>
> >> Releases
> >> ========
> >>
> >> o None
> >>
> >> Infrastructure
> >> ==============
> >> o Some problems with the site m2 site builds
> >> o Discussion about nightlies and CI
> >> - build "nightlies" only on commits keeping the last 5
> >> successful build
> >> - pure convenience
> >> - does not replace GUMP (different purpose)
> >>
> >> Community
> >> =========
> >> o No new committers
> >> o No new PMC members
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org
> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org
> >>
> >>
> >
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>
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Re: Apache Commons Board Report, September 2007
Posted by Torsten Curdt <tc...@apache.org>.
Sorry, that was not clear indeed.
I think consensus from the discussion was that
o the TrueZip API is not really nice
o that the there is no real community behind it
So the idea was to *copy* code from it to help "compression" out in
areas where it needs help.
As it is ASL2.0 it should be no problem though.
cheers
--
Torsten
On 19.09.2007, at 19:43, Henri Yandell wrote:
> Hey Torsten,
>
> Feedback from the board report; what did you mean by "sponsoring"
> below?
>
> New Incubator project?
>
> Hen
>
> On 9/13/07, Torsten Curdt <tc...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Apache Commons Board Report, September 2007
>>
>> Summary
>> =======
>>
>> Not that much happened this month.
>>
>> o A couple of new people on the scene that expressed their
>> willingness to contribute
>> o Discussions of "sponsoring" compress with code from TrueZip
>> - https://truezip.dev.java.net/
>> - one man show
>> - ASL2.0
>> o Consensus on using continuum for nightlies
>>
>> Releases
>> ========
>>
>> o None
>>
>> Infrastructure
>> ==============
>> o Some problems with the site m2 site builds
>> o Discussion about nightlies and CI
>> - build "nightlies" only on commits keeping the last 5
>> successful build
>> - pure convenience
>> - does not replace GUMP (different purpose)
>>
>> Community
>> =========
>> o No new committers
>> o No new PMC members
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org
>>
>>
>
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Re: Apache Commons Board Report, September 2007
Posted by Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>.
Hey Torsten,
Feedback from the board report; what did you mean by "sponsoring" below?
New Incubator project?
Hen
On 9/13/07, Torsten Curdt <tc...@apache.org> wrote:
> Apache Commons Board Report, September 2007
>
> Summary
> =======
>
> Not that much happened this month.
>
> o A couple of new people on the scene that expressed their
> willingness to contribute
> o Discussions of "sponsoring" compress with code from TrueZip
> - https://truezip.dev.java.net/
> - one man show
> - ASL2.0
> o Consensus on using continuum for nightlies
>
> Releases
> ========
>
> o None
>
> Infrastructure
> ==============
> o Some problems with the site m2 site builds
> o Discussion about nightlies and CI
> - build "nightlies" only on commits keeping the last 5
> successful build
> - pure convenience
> - does not replace GUMP (different purpose)
>
> Community
> =========
> o No new committers
> o No new PMC members
>
>
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>
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