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How widely read is the incubator report?

Hi,

I would guess goes that PPMC that report for that month may read it or possibly only check their bit? 

Quite often issues that affect one podling apply to/help other podlings but they don’t seem to be aware of it despite it appearing in the report several times. It seems to me that having each podling PMC read each monthly report could be of benefit to them and that it might be a good idea to it to all email it to all PPMC each month? What do others think?

Thanks,
Justin
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Re: How widely read is the incubator report?

Posted by Anatole Tresch <at...@gmail.com>.
I normally do not read the entire report, but I will take up the point, I
should so. It could definitively give my PPMC and myself more ideas and
good input ;-)
How about (just an idea ;-) create a mailing-list, where people can
subscribe for getting informed monthly on all there reports automatically.
So everyone can individually decide (and optionally create a filter in the
mail system) on getting the final reports (and decisions)...

Am Mo., 5. Nov. 2018 um 17:23 Uhr schrieb Kevin A. McGrail <
kmcgrail@apache.org>:

> I typically read the submitted version. I am still ramping up on how I can
> help the incubator but will make a point of reading them.
>
> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 6:19 PM Justin Mclean <justin@classsoftware.com
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > > I read the entire report every month.  Then again, I'm a director so
> I'm
> > > supposed to.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > >   I'd bet most PPMC members never read the report as submitted;
> >
> > I would assume the is the case, with a few exceptions.
> >
> > > Sending the whole report to all podlings monthly is overbearing.
> >
> > I was thinking the same, despite it being useful for a few podlngs.
> >
> > > One thing that feels useful would be a post-board meeting meta-summary,
> > > kind of like Phil now does as Chairman.  Phil has taken part of the
> > > Chairman's report and made it about common issues between projects, or
> > > even just which projects wrote great reports and why.  Something like
> > > that is hard to produce - extra work for our few IPMC report organizing
> > > volunteers - but could be high-impact since it's short enough with
> > > focused commentary that PPMCs might read and learn from it.
> >
> > Good idea. Lets see if we can do that.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Justin
> >
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Re: How widely read is the incubator report?

Posted by "Kevin A. McGrail" <km...@apache.org>.
I typically read the submitted version. I am still ramping up on how I can
help the incubator but will make a point of reading them.

On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 6:19 PM Justin Mclean <justin@classsoftware.com wrote:

> Hi,
>
> > I read the entire report every month.  Then again, I'm a director so I'm
> > supposed to.
>
> :-)
>
> >   I'd bet most PPMC members never read the report as submitted;
>
> I would assume the is the case, with a few exceptions.
>
> > Sending the whole report to all podlings monthly is overbearing.
>
> I was thinking the same, despite it being useful for a few podlngs.
>
> > One thing that feels useful would be a post-board meeting meta-summary,
> > kind of like Phil now does as Chairman.  Phil has taken part of the
> > Chairman's report and made it about common issues between projects, or
> > even just which projects wrote great reports and why.  Something like
> > that is hard to produce - extra work for our few IPMC report organizing
> > volunteers - but could be high-impact since it's short enough with
> > focused commentary that PPMCs might read and learn from it.
>
> Good idea. Lets see if we can do that.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
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Re: How widely read is the incubator report?

Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,

> I read the entire report every month.  Then again, I'm a director so I'm
> supposed to.

:-)

>   I'd bet most PPMC members never read the report as submitted; 

I would assume the is the case, with a few exceptions.

> Sending the whole report to all podlings monthly is overbearing.

I was thinking the same, despite it being useful for a few podlngs.

> One thing that feels useful would be a post-board meeting meta-summary,
> kind of like Phil now does as Chairman.  Phil has taken part of the
> Chairman's report and made it about common issues between projects, or
> even just which projects wrote great reports and why.  Something like
> that is hard to produce - extra work for our few IPMC report organizing
> volunteers - but could be high-impact since it's short enough with
> focused commentary that PPMCs might read and learn from it.

Good idea. Lets see if we can do that.

Thanks,
Justin

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Re: How widely read is the incubator report?

Posted by Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org>.
Justin Mclean wrote on 11/2/18 6:38 PM:
> Hi,
> 
> I would guess goes that PPMC that report for that month may read it or possibly only check their bit? 

I read the entire report every month.  Then again, I'm a director so I'm
supposed to.  8-)  I'd bet most PPMC members never read the report as
submitted; only look at their own part of the report.

> Quite often issues that affect one podling apply to/help other podlings but they don’t seem to be aware of it despite it appearing in the report several times. It seems to me that having each podling PMC read each monthly report could be of benefit to them and that it might be a good idea to it to all email it to all PPMC each month? What do others think?

Sending the whole report to all podlings monthly is overbearing.  It
would do them good to read the other reports (both for comments as well
as how reports are written), but that's putting a bunch of burden on new
community members at Apache, and they'll likely wholly ignore it.

One thing that feels useful would be a post-board meeting meta-summary,
kind of like Phil now does as Chairman.  Phil has taken part of the
Chairman's report and made it about common issues between projects, or
even just which projects wrote great reports and why.  Something like
that is hard to produce - extra work for our few IPMC report organizing
volunteers - but could be high-impact since it's short enough with
focused commentary that PPMCs might read and learn from it.

Definitely a good idea you have in some way!

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- Shane
  Director & Member
  The Apache Software Foundation

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