Re: Derby Eclipse Plug-in versus JavaDB or Apache Derby

[Aaron J Tarter <aj...@gmail.com>]

The current plug-in always includes libraries from the default plug-ins
directory, so custom extension directories will not work.  There is a patch
that fixes this problem here -
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1931.  It uses a classpath
container instead of the ECLIPSE_HOME variable.  The classpath container
adds the JARs from wherever they are installed, instead of assuming that
they are installed in the default plug-ins directory.   Please vote for this
issue.

On 9/28/07, danga <dg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi there,
>
> I am using the Eclipse Europa RCP platform and lately installed the Apache
> Derby Eclipse plug-ins.
>
> Now I have a few questions:
> 1) Since I also have the javaDB installed (Java 1.6) why should I use the
> plug-in ?
> I notice that the same jar files are available ?
>
> 2) Is it not better to download Apache Derby and install it, instead of
> the
> javaDB
>
> 3) My third question is a bit more complex and is about using the Derby
> plugin outside of my eclipse installation using a link file in my eclipse
> environment that points to the directory where the plugp-in is installed.
>
> I have created a separate directory where I unzipped the Apache Derby
> plug-in. The structure of the directory is
> eclipse-extension\eclipse\plugins\ ....
>
> I added the Apache Derby plug-in's in this directory and I created a
> .eclipseextension file.
> Later I created a link file in my eclipse \link directory.
>
> I restarted Eclipse and checked whether the plugins were available using
> Help > About Eclipse SDK > Plugins ... and indeed they are shown.
>
> Now I created a simple HelloWorld plug-in and the moment I try to add the
> Derby nature I get an error message saying that my project is missing the
> required libraries ... org.apache.derby.core derby.jar, derbyclient.jar,
> derbynet.jar, derbytools.jar
>
> When I look into the properties of my project under Java Build Path I can
> see the derby jar-files are available. I can also see that the Plug-in
> dependencies include these jar-files.
>
> The error log says also the project cannot be built until build path
> errors
> are resolved .
>
> I tried afterwards the same thing but now I did not use a link file but
> the
> product configuration manager using add extension location, the problem
> remains.
>
> When I add the plugins to the Eclipse plugin directory there is no
> problem.
>
> What is wrong here and what is the best approach to follow ?
>
>
> regards,
> Danny
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://www.nabble.com/Derby-Eclipse-Plug-in-versus-JavaDB-or-Apache-Derby-tf4532739.html#a12935407
> Sent from the Apache Derby Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>


-- 
Regards,
Aaron J Tarter

Re: Derby Eclipse Plug-in versus JavaDB or Apache Derby

[danga <dg...@yahoo.com>]

I have tried to get the plug-in build with Eclipse but could not succeed. I
am using the latest version of eclipse . Can someone tell me the steps to
get this done


Aaron J Tarter wrote:
> 
> You would need to checkout the source for the UI plugin and build it
> yourself until the patch is applied (I'm not a committer so I can't apply
> it
> myself).  I think the easiest way to build is to checkout the
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/db/derby/code/trunk/plugins/eclipse/org.apache.derby.uiproject,
> apply the patch, and export the project using the plug-in export
> wizard or the JAR export wizard.  Then, you can install the plug-in JAR as
> you normally would.
> 
> On 10/3/07, danga <dg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Aaron,
>>
>> Thanks for your reply I believe this is exactly what I need but help out
>> here how can I get this working. I am not an expert in java. I am using
>> Eclipse for a long time but not for programming purposes.
>>
>> I assume I have to get the sources of Derby and incorporate the two jars.
>>
>> regards,
>> Danny
>>
>>
>> Aaron J Tarter wrote:
>> >
>> > The current plug-in always includes libraries from the default plug-ins
>> > directory, so custom extension directories will not work.  There is a
>> > patch
>> > that fixes this problem here -
>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1931.  It uses a classpath
>> > container instead of the ECLIPSE_HOME variable.  The classpath
>> container
>> > adds the JARs from wherever they are installed, instead of assuming
>> that
>> > they are installed in the default plug-ins directory.   Please vote for
>> > this
>> > issue.
>> >
>> > On 9/28/07, danga <dg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hi there,
>> >>
>> >> I am using the Eclipse Europa RCP platform and lately installed the
>> >> Apache
>> >> Derby Eclipse plug-ins.
>> >>
>> >> Now I have a few questions:
>> >> 1) Since I also have the javaDB installed (Java 1.6) why should I use
>> the
>> >> plug-in ?
>> >> I notice that the same jar files are available ?
>> >>
>> >> 2) Is it not better to download Apache Derby and install it, instead
>> of
>> >> the
>> >> javaDB
>> >>
>> >> 3) My third question is a bit more complex and is about using the
>> Derby
>> >> plugin outside of my eclipse installation using a link file in my
>> eclipse
>> >> environment that points to the directory where the plugp-in is
>> installed.
>> >>
>> >> I have created a separate directory where I unzipped the Apache Derby
>> >> plug-in. The structure of the directory is
>> >> eclipse-extension\eclipse\plugins\ ....
>> >>
>> >> I added the Apache Derby plug-in's in this directory and I created a
>> >> .eclipseextension file.
>> >> Later I created a link file in my eclipse \link directory.
>> >>
>> >> I restarted Eclipse and checked whether the plugins were available
>> using
>> >> Help > About Eclipse SDK > Plugins ... and indeed they are shown.
>> >>
>> >> Now I created a simple HelloWorld plug-in and the moment I try to add
>> the
>> >> Derby nature I get an error message saying that my project is missing
>> the
>> >> required libraries ... org.apache.derby.core derby.jar,
>> derbyclient.jar
>> ,
>> >> derbynet.jar, derbytools.jar
>> >>
>> >> When I look into the properties of my project under Java Build Path I
>> can
>> >> see the derby jar-files are available. I can also see that the Plug-in
>> >> dependencies include these jar-files.
>> >>
>> >> The error log says also the project cannot be built until build path
>> >> errors
>> >> are resolved .
>> >>
>> >> I tried afterwards the same thing but now I did not use a link file
>> but
>> >> the
>> >> product configuration manager using add extension location, the
>> problem
>> >> remains.
>> >>
>> >> When I add the plugins to the Eclipse plugin directory there is no
>> >> problem.
>> >>
>> >> What is wrong here and what is the best approach to follow ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> regards,
>> >> Danny
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> View this message in context:
>> >>
>> http://www.nabble.com/Derby-Eclipse-Plug-in-versus-JavaDB-or-Apache-Derby-tf4532739.html#a12935407
>> >> Sent from the Apache Derby Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Regards,
>> > Aaron J Tarter
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://www.nabble.com/Derby-Eclipse-Plug-in-versus-JavaDB-or-Apache-Derby-tf4532739.html#a13015834
>> Sent from the Apache Derby Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>>
> 
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Aaron J Tarter
> 
> 

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Re: Derby Eclipse Plug-in versus JavaDB or Apache Derby

[Aaron J Tarter <aj...@gmail.com>]

You would need to checkout the source for the UI plugin and build it
yourself until the patch is applied (I'm not a committer so I can't apply it
myself).  I think the easiest way to build is to checkout the
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/db/derby/code/trunk/plugins/eclipse/org.apache.derby.uiproject,
apply the patch, and export the project using the plug-in export
wizard or the JAR export wizard.  Then, you can install the plug-in JAR as
you normally would.

On 10/3/07, danga <dg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Aaron,
>
> Thanks for your reply I believe this is exactly what I need but help out
> here how can I get this working. I am not an expert in java. I am using
> Eclipse for a long time but not for programming purposes.
>
> I assume I have to get the sources of Derby and incorporate the two jars.
>
> regards,
> Danny
>
>
> Aaron J Tarter wrote:
> >
> > The current plug-in always includes libraries from the default plug-ins
> > directory, so custom extension directories will not work.  There is a
> > patch
> > that fixes this problem here -
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1931.  It uses a classpath
> > container instead of the ECLIPSE_HOME variable.  The classpath container
> > adds the JARs from wherever they are installed, instead of assuming that
> > they are installed in the default plug-ins directory.   Please vote for
> > this
> > issue.
> >
> > On 9/28/07, danga <dg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi there,
> >>
> >> I am using the Eclipse Europa RCP platform and lately installed the
> >> Apache
> >> Derby Eclipse plug-ins.
> >>
> >> Now I have a few questions:
> >> 1) Since I also have the javaDB installed (Java 1.6) why should I use
> the
> >> plug-in ?
> >> I notice that the same jar files are available ?
> >>
> >> 2) Is it not better to download Apache Derby and install it, instead of
> >> the
> >> javaDB
> >>
> >> 3) My third question is a bit more complex and is about using the Derby
> >> plugin outside of my eclipse installation using a link file in my
> eclipse
> >> environment that points to the directory where the plugp-in is
> installed.
> >>
> >> I have created a separate directory where I unzipped the Apache Derby
> >> plug-in. The structure of the directory is
> >> eclipse-extension\eclipse\plugins\ ....
> >>
> >> I added the Apache Derby plug-in's in this directory and I created a
> >> .eclipseextension file.
> >> Later I created a link file in my eclipse \link directory.
> >>
> >> I restarted Eclipse and checked whether the plugins were available
> using
> >> Help > About Eclipse SDK > Plugins ... and indeed they are shown.
> >>
> >> Now I created a simple HelloWorld plug-in and the moment I try to add
> the
> >> Derby nature I get an error message saying that my project is missing
> the
> >> required libraries ... org.apache.derby.core derby.jar, derbyclient.jar
> ,
> >> derbynet.jar, derbytools.jar
> >>
> >> When I look into the properties of my project under Java Build Path I
> can
> >> see the derby jar-files are available. I can also see that the Plug-in
> >> dependencies include these jar-files.
> >>
> >> The error log says also the project cannot be built until build path
> >> errors
> >> are resolved .
> >>
> >> I tried afterwards the same thing but now I did not use a link file but
> >> the
> >> product configuration manager using add extension location, the problem
> >> remains.
> >>
> >> When I add the plugins to the Eclipse plugin directory there is no
> >> problem.
> >>
> >> What is wrong here and what is the best approach to follow ?
> >>
> >>
> >> regards,
> >> Danny
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> View this message in context:
> >>
> http://www.nabble.com/Derby-Eclipse-Plug-in-versus-JavaDB-or-Apache-Derby-tf4532739.html#a12935407
> >> Sent from the Apache Derby Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Aaron J Tarter
> >
> >
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://www.nabble.com/Derby-Eclipse-Plug-in-versus-JavaDB-or-Apache-Derby-tf4532739.html#a13015834
> Sent from the Apache Derby Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>


-- 
Regards,
Aaron J Tarter

Re: Derby Eclipse Plug-in versus JavaDB or Apache Derby

[danga <dg...@yahoo.com>]

Aaron,

Thanks for your reply I believe this is exactly what I need but help out
here how can I get this working. I am not an expert in java. I am using
Eclipse for a long time but not for programming purposes.

I assume I have to get the sources of Derby and incorporate the two jars.

regards,
Danny


Aaron J Tarter wrote:
> 
> The current plug-in always includes libraries from the default plug-ins
> directory, so custom extension directories will not work.  There is a
> patch
> that fixes this problem here -
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1931.  It uses a classpath
> container instead of the ECLIPSE_HOME variable.  The classpath container
> adds the JARs from wherever they are installed, instead of assuming that
> they are installed in the default plug-ins directory.   Please vote for
> this
> issue.
> 
> On 9/28/07, danga <dg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I am using the Eclipse Europa RCP platform and lately installed the
>> Apache
>> Derby Eclipse plug-ins.
>>
>> Now I have a few questions:
>> 1) Since I also have the javaDB installed (Java 1.6) why should I use the
>> plug-in ?
>> I notice that the same jar files are available ?
>>
>> 2) Is it not better to download Apache Derby and install it, instead of
>> the
>> javaDB
>>
>> 3) My third question is a bit more complex and is about using the Derby
>> plugin outside of my eclipse installation using a link file in my eclipse
>> environment that points to the directory where the plugp-in is installed.
>>
>> I have created a separate directory where I unzipped the Apache Derby
>> plug-in. The structure of the directory is
>> eclipse-extension\eclipse\plugins\ ....
>>
>> I added the Apache Derby plug-in's in this directory and I created a
>> .eclipseextension file.
>> Later I created a link file in my eclipse \link directory.
>>
>> I restarted Eclipse and checked whether the plugins were available using
>> Help > About Eclipse SDK > Plugins ... and indeed they are shown.
>>
>> Now I created a simple HelloWorld plug-in and the moment I try to add the
>> Derby nature I get an error message saying that my project is missing the
>> required libraries ... org.apache.derby.core derby.jar, derbyclient.jar,
>> derbynet.jar, derbytools.jar
>>
>> When I look into the properties of my project under Java Build Path I can
>> see the derby jar-files are available. I can also see that the Plug-in
>> dependencies include these jar-files.
>>
>> The error log says also the project cannot be built until build path
>> errors
>> are resolved .
>>
>> I tried afterwards the same thing but now I did not use a link file but
>> the
>> product configuration manager using add extension location, the problem
>> remains.
>>
>> When I add the plugins to the Eclipse plugin directory there is no
>> problem.
>>
>> What is wrong here and what is the best approach to follow ?
>>
>>
>> regards,
>> Danny
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://www.nabble.com/Derby-Eclipse-Plug-in-versus-JavaDB-or-Apache-Derby-tf4532739.html#a12935407
>> Sent from the Apache Derby Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>>
> 
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Aaron J Tarter
> 
> 

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