svn copy --ignore-externals

[Dean Kopesky <De...@reuters.com>]

Hi,
 
I believe the copy subcommand (and more generally, any subcommand that
fetches external items) should accept the --ignore-externals option.
 
If I copy from a repository URL into my workspace, sometimes I do not
want the externals fetched, just like I sometimes do not want them
fetched when checking out a URL directly.  (The exact use case involves
a release management system that assembles and commits release trees
from "blessed" revisions of specific dirs and files... long story, but I
can provide more details if you need them.)
 
We are currently running 1.4.0 here on a SunOS 5.8 system.  I have
checked the CHANGES file for versions 1.4.1 - 1.4.6, and it does not
look like this has been addressed so far.
 
Is this a bug or a feature?  If you concur that svn copy
--ignore-externals is meaningful, I will file an issue in Issue Tracker.
 
Thanks much.
 
-Dean
 
 
Dean Kopesky
Software Engineer


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RE: svn copy --ignore-externals

[Dean Kopesky <De...@reuters.com>]

Actually, s/sometimes/always/ in my original e-mail:  I can't think of
any cases where I would want "svn copy REPOS-URL WC-PATH" to fetch
externals.  (However, backward-compatibility considerations might
require addition of --ignore-externals to the copy subcommand, rather
than changing that subcommand's default behavior... but I have no strong
feelings about that one way or the other.)  -Dean

> -----Original Message-----
> From: C. Michael Pilato [mailto:cmpilato@collab.net] 
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 2:44 PM
> To: Dean Kopesky
> Cc: dev@subversion.tigris.org
> Subject: Re: svn copy --ignore-externals
> 
> Dean Kopesky wrote:
> > I believe the copy subcommand (and more generally, any 
> subcommand that 
> > fetches external items) should accept the --ignore-externals option.
> >  
> > If I copy from a repository URL into my workspace, 
> sometimes I do not 
> > want the externals fetched, just like I sometimes do not want them 
> > fetched when checking out a URL directly.  (The exact use 
> case involves 
> > a release management system that assembles and commits 
> release trees 
> > from "blessed" revisions of specific dirs and files... long 
> story, but I 
> > can provide more details if you need them.)
> 
> Actually, I'm wondering why 'svn copy' doesn't just *always* ignore 
> externals.  'svn copy REPOS-URL WC-PATH' is ultimately a scheduling 
> operation, and no other scheduling operation fleshes out 
> externals.  So I'd 
> suggest that 'svn copy' *never* flesh out externals, and if 
> folks want them, 
> they do 'svn copy REPOS-URL WC-PATH && svn update WC-PATH'.
> 
> Is there a meaningful use-case for the behavior we see today?

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Re: svn copy --ignore-externals

["C. Michael Pilato" <cm...@collab.net>]

Dean Kopesky wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> I believe the copy subcommand (and more generally, any subcommand that 
> fetches external items) should accept the --ignore-externals option.
>  
> If I copy from a repository URL into my workspace, sometimes I do not 
> want the externals fetched, just like I sometimes do not want them 
> fetched when checking out a URL directly.  (The exact use case involves 
> a release management system that assembles and commits release trees 
> from "blessed" revisions of specific dirs and files... long story, but I 
> can provide more details if you need them.)

Actually, I'm wondering why 'svn copy' doesn't just *always* ignore 
externals.  'svn copy REPOS-URL WC-PATH' is ultimately a scheduling 
operation, and no other scheduling operation fleshes out externals.  So I'd 
suggest that 'svn copy' *never* flesh out externals, and if folks want them, 
they do 'svn copy REPOS-URL WC-PATH && svn update WC-PATH'.

Is there a meaningful use-case for the behavior we see today?

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