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[Bug 122359] New: Non-breaking spaces shown when non-printing
characters is off
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122359
Bug ID: 122359
Issue Type: DEFECT
Summary: Non-breaking spaces shown when non-printing characters
is off
Classification: Application
Product: Writer
Version: AOO400-dev
Hardware: All
OS: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Severity: normal
Priority: P3
Component: formatting
Assignee: issues@openoffice.apache.org
Reporter: justinjovic@gmail.com
CC: issues@openoffice.apache.org
When "Non-printing characters" is not selected, non breaking spaces should not
show up as a gray box. They should only show up when the non-printing
characters are selected to be visible.
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[Issue 122359] Non-breaking spaces shown when nonprinting characters
is off
Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122359
Edwin Sharp <el...@apache.org> changed:
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Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
CC| |elish@apache.org
Resolution|--- |FIXED
--- Comment #8 from Edwin Sharp <el...@apache.org> ---
Tools - Options... - OpenOffice Writer - Formatting Aids - Display of
Non-breaking spaces works.
AOO410m14(Build:9760) - Rev. 1582709
2014-03-30_04:11:07 - Rev. 1583103
Debian
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[Bug 122359] Non-breaking spaces shown when nonprinting characters
is off
Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122359
rainerbielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> changed:
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Severity|normal |minor
--- Comment #7 from rainerbielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> ---
> you would expect the shading to print
Definitively not. Or does anyone expect that Paragraph ends will be printed
because they are visible on screen?
For me the current behavior is plausible, a change to the WORD way would
decrease usability for me (but of course that's my personal point of viewing).
There are some good reasons for separation of <control+f8>, <control+f9>,
<control+f10>. Please consider that <control+f8> also affects lots of fields.
In my working world Field shading visibility is something completely different
from NopC visibility, and I doubt that the request will get much (any?)
approval.
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[Bug 122359] Non-breaking spaces shown when nonprinting characters
is off
Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122359
Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org> changed:
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CC| |arielch@apache.org
--- Comment #6 from Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org> ---
It seems that the visibility of all formatting marks that you can insert via
"Insert" - "Formatting Mark":
Non-breaking space
Non-breaking hyphen
Optional hyphen
is controlled by "View" - "Field Shadings".
And in fact, field shading is on despite of "View" - "Nonprinting Characters"
being off.
This request can be resumed as: Formatting Mark's shading should depend on
"View" - "Nonprinting Characters"
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[Bug 122359] Non-breaking spaces shown when nonprinting characters
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rainerbielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> changed:
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See Also| |https://issues.apache.org/o
| |oo/show_bug.cgi?id=122371
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[Bug 122359] Non-breaking spaces shown when nonprinting characters
is off
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rainerbielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> changed:
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Keywords| |needmoreinfo
--- Comment #3 from rainerbielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> ---
That dialog indeed is a little inconsistent and worrying, because the list
contains nonprinting characters, fields and worked in field shadings for a
particular class of special characters. That should be straightened up. But I
don't think that we have a bug.
@Justin:
It would help much if you could add some reasoning (please cite Help, norms,
...) why you expect that shading of Nonbreaking Space, Custom Hyphen should be
switched off with nonprinting characters under particular circumstances
Please also see
"Bug 122369 - Sort list items in menu 'Tools - Options - Writer - Formatting
Aids - Display of'"
"Bug 122371 - Incorrect Help: 'Tools - Options - Writer - Formatting Aids -
Display of'"
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[Bug 122359] Non-breaking spaces shown when nonprinting characters
is off
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https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122359
--- Comment #5 from Justin <ju...@gmail.com> ---
Created attachment 80719
--> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/attachment.cgi?id=80719&action=edit
Attachment showing the issue in OO vs Word
The attachment shows what I feel is an error in implementation (ie bug) and an
approach MS Word takes that I feel is cleaner and gets out of the writer's way.
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[Bug 122359] Non-breaking spaces shown when nonprinting characters
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rainerbielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
CC| |rainerbielefeld_ooo_qa@biel
| |efeldundbuss.de
Resolution|--- |INVALID
Summary|Non-breaking spaces shown |Non-breaking spaces shown
|when non-printing |when nonprinting characters
|characters is off |is off
--- Comment #1 from rainerbielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> ---
In menu 'Tools -> Options - OpenOffice Writer/OpenOffice -> Formatting Aids -
Display of' you can uncheck visibility for Non-breaking spaces.
So INVALID
@Justin
Please feel free to reopen the Bug if I misunderstood intention of your report.
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Justin <ju...@gmail.com> changed:
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[Bug 122359] Non-breaking spaces shown when nonprinting characters
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--- Comment #4 from Justin <ju...@gmail.com> ---
The reasoning is that if we have shading shown when non printing characters is
off, you would expect the shading to print. Also it is cleaner when writing a
document to be able to see WYSIWYG until you toggle Non-printing characters to
show.
Finally, This is the behavior of MS Word. I feel they are doing it correctly in
this case.
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[Bug 122359] Non-breaking spaces shown when nonprinting characters
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Justin <ju...@gmail.com> changed:
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Status|RESOLVED |UNCONFIRMED
Resolution|INVALID |---
--- Comment #2 from Justin <ju...@gmail.com> ---
"Non printing characters" should not be visible when the non-printing
characters is toggled off.
The selection in the preferences is regarding whether a non-printing character
will show up when non-printing characters item on the toolbar is toggled ON.
Please look at how the other symbols, like paragraph breaks behave.
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