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Posted to dev@jspwiki.apache.org by Murray Altheim <mu...@altheim.com> on 2008/03/25 22:13:05 UTC
Yahoo Joins Social Network Group, as Google Gives Up Control
While I really balk at calling this a "programming standard", I was wondering
if anyone has yet looked into implementing portions of the OpenSocial API
for JSPWiki, since this is obviously gaining momentum and would garner us
a lot of visibility:
As anticipated, Yahoo is joining the Google-led OpenSocial alliance, which is
developing a common set of standards for programmers to create applications
that can run on social networks and other sites.
Yahoo has considered joining the alliance for months, according to people
familiar with the company’s plans. But Yahoo executives fretted that Google
might exert too much control over the evolution of OpenSocial and over any
intellectual property created by the group, these people said. Yahoo raised
those concerns with Google. Now, Google has agreed to give up control over
OpenSocial.
In announcing Yahoo’s entry into the alliance, the companies said that the
programming standard would now be in the hands of the OpenSocial
Foundation, a non-profit group whose founding members will include Google,
Yahoo and MySpace, another large backer of OpenSocial. The foundation,
which will be created within 90 days, will “ensure the neutrality and longevity
of OpenSocial as an open, community-governed specification for building social
applications across the Web,” the companies said.
from:
Yahoo Joins Social Network Group, as Google Gives Up Control
Miguel Helft, Bits (NYT technology blog), 25 March 2008, The New York Times
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/25/yahoo-joins-social-network-group-as-google-gives-up-control/index.html
see also:
OpenSocial
http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/
--
Murray
...........................................................................
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Re: Yahoo Joins Social Network Group, as Google Gives Up Control
Posted by Florian Holeczek <fl...@holeczek.de>.
I'm reading the Apache Roller mailing list, too. They have listed some
ideas on extending Roller (e.g. OpenID support), for students who want
to take part at the Google Summer of Code.
Regards,
Florian
Ursprüngliche Nachricht vom 25.03.2008 um 22:15:
> I've been watching this with some interest. It's certainly on my
> "things to do once I get everything really important out of the way" -
> list.
> OpenID and OpenSocial support would both give us a nice boost, I think.
> /Janne
Re: Yahoo Joins Social Network Group, as Google Gives Up Control
Posted by Janne Jalkanen <Ja...@ecyrd.com>.
Is there some reason why we can't take OpenID in 2.8 already? 3.0 is
getting kinda bloated...
/Janne
On Mar 26, 2008, at 00:04 , Andrew Jaquith wrote:
> I have long been in favor of adding OpenID support to JSPWiki for
> the 3.0 release. That is part of the reason I want to get a quick
> Apache release done for 2.8 -- the sooner we can do that, the
> sooner we can do fun stuff like OpenID in 3.0.
>
> Coincidentally, I read Simon's blog regularly...
>
> On Mar 25, 2008, at 17:30, Murray Altheim <mu...@altheim.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Janne Jalkanen wrote:
>>> I've been watching this with some interest. It's certainly on my
>>> "things to do once I get everything really important out of the
>>> way" -list.
>>> OpenID and OpenSocial support would both give us a nice boost, I
>>> think.
>>
>> At a recent web conference I talked with a guy named Simon
>> Willison who I
>> believe may have already been in contact with you about the
>> possibilities
>> of an OpenID implementation for JSPWiki. I explained how much of a
>> win-win
>> that would be for JSPWiki and OpenID (with JSPWiki being the
>> Apache wiki),
>> and tried to impress upon him the idea that if there was an OpenID
>> implementation within the next six months we'd be able to use it
>> in our
>> online JSPWiki-based service when it goes online. It would also
>> save us
>> the trouble of having to deal with the alternatives, which are
>> complicated
>> and have their own issues.
>>
>> I also suggested that if he knew of anyone with some spare cycles
>> that
>> they would be well-spent on a JSPWiki implementation. With OpenID now
>> advocated by OpenSocial this looks even more promising.
>>
>> See also
>>
>> http://developer.yahoo.net/blog/archives/2008/01/
>> interview_simon.html
>> http://simonwillison.net/2006/openid-screencast/
>> http://simonwillison.net/2007/Feb/21/fowa/
>>
>> Murray
>>
>> cc: Simon Willison
>> .....................................................................
>> ......
>> Murray Altheim <murray07 at altheim.com>
>> === = =
>> http://www.altheim.com/murray/
>> = = ===
>> SGML Grease Monkey, Banjo Player, Wantanabe Zen Monk
>> = = = =
>>
>> Boundless wind and moon - the eye within eyes,
>> Inexhaustible heaven and earth - the light beyond light,
>> The willow dark, the flower bright - ten thousand houses,
>> Knock at any door - there's one who will respond.
>> -- The Blue Cliff Record
Re: Yahoo Joins Social Network Group, as Google Gives Up Control
Posted by Andrew Jaquith <an...@mac.com>.
I have long been in favor of adding OpenID support to JSPWiki for the
3.0 release. That is part of the reason I want to get a quick Apache
release done for 2.8 -- the sooner we can do that, the sooner we can
do fun stuff like OpenID in 3.0.
Coincidentally, I read Simon's blog regularly...
On Mar 25, 2008, at 17:30, Murray Altheim <mu...@altheim.com> wrote:
> Janne Jalkanen wrote:
>> I've been watching this with some interest. It's certainly on my
>> "things to do once I get everything really important out of the
>> way" -list.
>> OpenID and OpenSocial support would both give us a nice boost, I
>> think.
>
> At a recent web conference I talked with a guy named Simon Willison
> who I
> believe may have already been in contact with you about the
> possibilities
> of an OpenID implementation for JSPWiki. I explained how much of a
> win-win
> that would be for JSPWiki and OpenID (with JSPWiki being the Apache
> wiki),
> and tried to impress upon him the idea that if there was an OpenID
> implementation within the next six months we'd be able to use it in
> our
> online JSPWiki-based service when it goes online. It would also save
> us
> the trouble of having to deal with the alternatives, which are
> complicated
> and have their own issues.
>
> I also suggested that if he knew of anyone with some spare cycles that
> they would be well-spent on a JSPWiki implementation. With OpenID now
> advocated by OpenSocial this looks even more promising.
>
> See also
>
> http://developer.yahoo.net/blog/archives/2008/01/interview_simon.html
> http://simonwillison.net/2006/openid-screencast/
> http://simonwillison.net/2007/Feb/21/fowa/
>
> Murray
>
> cc: Simon Willison
> ...
> ...
> .....................................................................
> Murray Altheim <murray07 at altheim.com>
> === = =
> http://www.altheim.com/murray/ =
> = ===
> SGML Grease Monkey, Banjo Player, Wantanabe Zen Monk =
> = = =
>
> Boundless wind and moon - the eye within eyes,
> Inexhaustible heaven and earth - the light beyond light,
> The willow dark, the flower bright - ten thousand houses,
> Knock at any door - there's one who will respond.
> -- The Blue Cliff Record
Re: Yahoo Joins Social Network Group, as Google Gives Up Control
Posted by Murray Altheim <mu...@altheim.com>.
Janne Jalkanen wrote:
>
> I've been watching this with some interest. It's certainly on my
> "things to do once I get everything really important out of the way" -list.
>
> OpenID and OpenSocial support would both give us a nice boost, I think.
At a recent web conference I talked with a guy named Simon Willison who I
believe may have already been in contact with you about the possibilities
of an OpenID implementation for JSPWiki. I explained how much of a win-win
that would be for JSPWiki and OpenID (with JSPWiki being the Apache wiki),
and tried to impress upon him the idea that if there was an OpenID
implementation within the next six months we'd be able to use it in our
online JSPWiki-based service when it goes online. It would also save us
the trouble of having to deal with the alternatives, which are complicated
and have their own issues.
I also suggested that if he knew of anyone with some spare cycles that
they would be well-spent on a JSPWiki implementation. With OpenID now
advocated by OpenSocial this looks even more promising.
See also
http://developer.yahoo.net/blog/archives/2008/01/interview_simon.html
http://simonwillison.net/2006/openid-screencast/
http://simonwillison.net/2007/Feb/21/fowa/
Murray
cc: Simon Willison
...........................................................................
Murray Altheim <murray07 at altheim.com> === = =
http://www.altheim.com/murray/ = = ===
SGML Grease Monkey, Banjo Player, Wantanabe Zen Monk = = = =
Boundless wind and moon - the eye within eyes,
Inexhaustible heaven and earth - the light beyond light,
The willow dark, the flower bright - ten thousand houses,
Knock at any door - there's one who will respond.
-- The Blue Cliff Record
Re: Yahoo Joins Social Network Group, as Google Gives Up Control
Posted by Janne Jalkanen <Ja...@ecyrd.com>.
I've been watching this with some interest. It's certainly on my
"things to do once I get everything really important out of the way" -
list.
OpenID and OpenSocial support would both give us a nice boost, I think.
/Janne
On 25 Mar 2008, at 23:13, Murray Altheim wrote:
> While I really balk at calling this a "programming standard", I was
> wondering
> if anyone has yet looked into implementing portions of the
> OpenSocial API
> for JSPWiki, since this is obviously gaining momentum and would
> garner us
> a lot of visibility:
>
> As anticipated, Yahoo is joining the Google-led OpenSocial
> alliance, which is
> developing a common set of standards for programmers to create
> applications
> that can run on social networks and other sites.
>
> Yahoo has considered joining the alliance for months, according
> to people
> familiar with the company’s plans. But Yahoo executives fretted
> that Google
> might exert too much control over the evolution of OpenSocial
> and over any
> intellectual property created by the group, these people said.
> Yahoo raised
> those concerns with Google. Now, Google has agreed to give up
> control over
> OpenSocial.
>
> In announcing Yahoo’s entry into the alliance, the companies
> said that the
> programming standard would now be in the hands of the OpenSocial
> Foundation, a non-profit group whose founding members will
> include Google,
> Yahoo and MySpace, another large backer of OpenSocial. The
> foundation,
> which will be created within 90 days, will “ensure the
> neutrality and longevity
> of OpenSocial as an open, community-governed specification for
> building social
> applications across the Web,” the companies said.
>
> from:
>
> Yahoo Joins Social Network Group, as Google Gives Up Control
> Miguel Helft, Bits (NYT technology blog), 25 March 2008, The New
> York Times
> http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/25/yahoo-joins-social-
> network-group-as-google-gives-up-control/index.html
>
> see also:
>
> OpenSocial
> http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/
>
> --
>
> Murray
>
> ......................................................................
> .....
> Murray Altheim <murray07 at altheim.com>
> === = =
> http://www.altheim.com/murray/
> = = ===
> SGML Grease Monkey, Banjo Player, Wantanabe Zen Monk
> = = = =
>
> Boundless wind and moon - the eye within eyes,
> Inexhaustible heaven and earth - the light beyond light,
> The willow dark, the flower bright - ten thousand houses,
> Knock at any door - there's one who will respond.
> -- The Blue Cliff Record