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Posted to dev@lucenenet.apache.org by Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com> on 2012/02/16 00:30:07 UTC
[Lucene.Net] FW: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
Took all day, but Joe was there babysitting and correcting things for us. Basically there is a bug in svn 1.6.17 that the CMS is based on, which is making our commits a pain at the moment. Once that gets upgraded it should be relatively smooth sailing. It won't help us though if we want still planning on updating massive amounts of documentation on a regular basis. Thanks Joe, I can't thank you enough for the help today.
~PrescottDate: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:49:48 -0800
From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
After some testing it appears that this performancebug is fixed in svn 1.7, but the CMS is currentlyrunning 1.6.17. I hope to have the host upgradedwithin the next 30 days or so, but for now I stillrecommend using the script.
From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:28 PM
Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
Alright - sounds good
Thanks again!
~P
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:25:45 -0800
From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
I'm having some svn people look at the merge issues.Right now all I can suggest is that you publish usingthe publish.pl script on people.apache.org. It's takingme about 10 min total to carry that out, which is certainlytoo long given the nature of the changes it's merging,but I'll let you know what I find
out.
From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:13 PM
Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
It's butt ugly - all in one directory, 8206 files. I'd prefer a more natural docs structure, but that's how it gets generated
~P
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:10:47 -0800
From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
Ok lemee kill it and use the publish.pl scripton people to see if I can get it to work right.Just curious tho- about how many files do youhave within that docs dir- all in one dir I presume?
From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012
5:08 PM
Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
I'm thinking still merge funk
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:05:21 -0800
From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
Looks like it just completed. Hmm, goahead and publish and lets try this onemore time.
From: Joe Schaefer
<jo...@yahoo.com>
To: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
Yeah more merge funk. Leave it run for now,but don't take any further action until youhear from me.
From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February
15, 2012 4:59 PM
Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
I hate to be the bearer of bad news... still taking days to publish (I'm not sure if there is a merge error or not) let me know I'll kill this quick
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:54:52 -0800
From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
Yeah try out the webgui and edit/commit/publisha minor change. It should take you no more thana minute or so total.
From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM
Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
Man that sounds like a tool full of awesome!
Ok - so for the moment no new docs, a simple edit should be quick?
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:48:40 -0800
From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
Ok it's now fixed and your site should work as expectedat this point. I had to redact the lazy_publish featureand reserve it for admins only because you don't actuallyhave permission to completely remove your publication
sitefrom svn and
that's not something I can offer
without
providingyou and every other
committer with the ability to nukeeach other's entire sites.
From: Joe Schaefer <jo...@yahoo.com>
To: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
Yeah well it's probably timing out somewhere along the line.I'm looking into your svn tree now to see if I can figure outwhat's going on. Basically the svn merge it's running isdoing evil things.
From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
To:
joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:18 PM
Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
Sorry, I'm not seeing merge errors, just seeing my browser waiting for a response..I'll hold up
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:15:32 -0800
From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
To: geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
Stop Prescott when you get a merge error please.There's something funky going on here that I needto dig into and running publish again won't magicallyfix it.
From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:52 PM
Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
Ah ok, I thought we were past that part - I'm losing track, just blinding taking orders at this point :)
~P
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:50:41 -0800
From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
To: geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
Yes as I explained before by using lazy_publishyou will incur a performance hit the first timeyou subsequently publish normally. Once thiscompletes
things should behave
properly.
From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:48 PM
Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
small change still seems to be taking longer than it should..
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:41:20 -0800
From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
To: geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
No a regular publish this time please.
From: Prescott
Nasser
<ge...@hotmail.com>
To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:39 PM
Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
I started the regular publish - but stopped that, should I do a lazy publish?
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:36:57 -0800
From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
Ok that seems to have gone thru cleanly this time.Now please make another minor edit to the site andlet's flush things thru one last
time.
From: Joe Schaefer <jo...@yahoo.com>
To: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>; "site-dev@apache.org" <si...@apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
I had a bug in lazy_publish- please use that insteadwhen you get an error message indicating the mergefailed (like you just did). I'll keep an eye on thingswhile you do.
From: Prescott Nasser
<ge...@hotmail.com>
To:
joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:49 PM
Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
So, that worked, site was all there - looking good.
I made a small change to the index.html page (to up the words that it shows from the blog roll). And hit publish - I seem to be stuck (taking forever)... Not sure why that would occur?
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:31:02 -0800
From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
Seems to have
worked,
no?
From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:11 PM
Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
Here's goes..
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:56:11 -0800
From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
To: geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
Try https://cms.apache.org/lucene.net/lazy_publish
Quick and dirty if it works ;-)
From: Prescott Nasser
<ge...@hotmail.com>
To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:27 PM
Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
I'm sorry :( Please by all means take a stab - I'll do nothing until I hear back.
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:24:46 -0800
> From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
>
> Well I watched your attempt to publish the site and you guys
> have managed to break svn merge with too many adds/deletes
> of the same paths within a single merge session. I suggest
> you let me fix your site by nuking the publication tree
> and copying things over from staging.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
Joe Schaefer
<jo...@yahoo.com>
> > To:
Prescott Nasser
<ge...@hotmail.com>;
"site-dev@apache.org"
<si...@apache.org>
> >
Cc:
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 12:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> >
> >
> >
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
> >> To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:58 AM
> >> Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks Joe, I really appreciate your help.
> >>
> >> My next task was to tackle that doc issue. I was experimenting with the
> > upload a
> >> tarball option hoping that would reduce the number of files in the repo, but
> > I
> >> found out all it does is unpack it for me, saves me some bandwidth, but does
> >
nothing
> >> to save the tree.
> >>
> >> A couple of weeks ago, I was making no changes to the docs (and there were
> > no pending changes that I saw), and just making a minor change to the index page
> > (to announce a new version of Lucene.Net) took FOREVER - same timeout issues.
> > This lead me to believe, that regardless of the size of the change, the number
> > of files will always be a PIA. But it seems like that shouldn't be the case?
> >
> >
> > Hard to say what the cause of that delay was, but I can assure you it had little
> > or nothing
> > to do with the overall size of your site. The only O(N) algorithm involved is
> > when the build
> > system svn up's the tree, and if the changes are already present that
> > process shouldn't take
> > more
than a handful of seconds even for a 10GB site. Of course the actual time
> > may fluctuate
> > wildly due to server conditions on the cms or svn host systems, but there you
> > go.
> >
> >
> > I just added some docs about this to the bottom of the
> > http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref page
> > you might want to look over.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> I will publish what we have now (need to fix a minor issue in the 2.9.4
> > documentation first), and give a shot at making a minor change. Hopefully
> > publishing just a minor change in that case will be quick and painless.
> >
> >
> > Good luck. I suggest using the publish.pl script on people.apache.org and
> > grabbing a cuppa
coffee
> >
while things progress.
> >
RE: [Lucene.Net] FW: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
Posted by Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>.
I'm told it should "only take" about 10 minutes to publish now (as opposed to ~2.5 hours before). No harm in trying ;) ~P
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 21:47:49 -0500
> From: mherndon@wickedsoftware.net
> To: lucene-net-dev@lucene.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [Lucene.Net] FW: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>
> Is it safe to add content to the site through the CMS again? Anything to
> be wary of or not explicitly do?
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
> >
> > Took all day, but Joe was there babysitting and correcting things for us.
> > Basically there is a bug in svn 1.6.17 that the CMS is based on, which is
> > making our commits a pain at the moment. Once that gets upgraded it should
> > be relatively smooth sailing. It won't help us though if we want still
> > planning on updating massive amounts of documentation on a regular basis.
> > Thanks Joe, I can't thank you enough for the help today.
> > ~PrescottDate: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:49:48 -0800
> > From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> > To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
> >
> > After some testing it appears that this performancebug is fixed in svn
> > 1.7, but the CMS is currentlyrunning 1.6.17. I hope to have the host
> > upgradedwithin the next 30 days or so, but for now I stillrecommend using
> > the script.
> >
> > From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
> > To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:28 PM
> > Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Alright - sounds good
> >
> > Thanks again!
> >
> > ~P
> >
> > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:25:45 -0800
> > From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> > To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
> >
> > I'm having some svn people look at the merge issues.Right now all I can
> > suggest is that you publish usingthe publish.pl script on
> > people.apache.org. It's takingme about 10 min total to carry that out,
> > which is certainlytoo long given the nature of the changes it's merging,but
> > I'll let you know what I find
> > out.
> >
> > From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
> > To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:13 PM
> > Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It's butt ugly - all in one directory, 8206 files. I'd prefer a more
> > natural docs structure, but that's how it gets generated
> >
> > ~P
> >
> > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:10:47 -0800
> > From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> > To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
> >
> > Ok lemee kill it and use the publish.pl scripton people to see if I can
> > get it to work right.Just curious tho- about how many files do youhave
> > within that docs dir- all in one dir I presume?
> > From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
> > To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012
> > 5:08 PM
> > Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm thinking still merge funk
> >
> > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:05:21 -0800
> > From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> > To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
> >
> > Looks like it just completed. Hmm, goahead and publish and lets try this
> > onemore time.
> >
> > From: Joe Schaefer
> > <jo...@yahoo.com>
> > To: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> >
> >
> > Yeah more merge funk. Leave it run for now,but don't take any further
> > action until youhear from me.
> >
> > From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
> > To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, February
> > 15, 2012 4:59 PM
> > Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I hate to be the bearer of bad news... still taking days to publish (I'm
> > not sure if there is a merge error or not) let me know I'll kill this quick
> >
> > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:54:52 -0800
> > From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> > To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
> >
> > Yeah try out the webgui and edit/commit/publisha minor change. It should
> > take you no more thana minute or so total.
> >
> > From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
> > To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM
> > Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Man that sounds like a tool full of awesome!
> >
> > Ok - so for the moment no new docs, a simple edit should be quick?
> > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:48:40 -0800
> > From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> > To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
> >
> > Ok it's now fixed and your site should work as expectedat this point. I
> > had to redact the lazy_publish featureand reserve it for admins only
> > because you don't actuallyhave permission to completely remove your
> > publication
> > sitefrom svn and
> > that's not something I can offer
> > without
> > providingyou and every other
> > committer with the ability to nukeeach other's entire sites.
> >
> >
> > From: Joe Schaefer <jo...@yahoo.com>
> > To: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> >
> >
> > Yeah well it's probably timing out somewhere along the line.I'm looking
> > into your svn tree now to see if I can figure outwhat's going on.
> > Basically the svn merge it's running isdoing evil things.
> >
> > From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
> > To:
> > joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:18 PM
> > Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sorry, I'm not seeing merge errors, just seeing my browser waiting for a
> > response..I'll hold up
> >
> > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:15:32 -0800
> > From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> > To: geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
> >
> > Stop Prescott when you get a merge error please.There's something funky
> > going on here that I needto dig into and running publish again won't
> > magicallyfix it.
> >
> >
> > From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
> > To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:52 PM
> > Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ah ok, I thought we were past that part - I'm losing track, just blinding
> > taking orders at this point :)
> >
> > ~P
> > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:50:41 -0800
> > From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> > To: geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
> >
> > Yes as I explained before by using lazy_publishyou will incur a
> > performance hit the first timeyou subsequently publish normally. Once
> > thiscompletes
> > things should behave
> > properly.
> >
> > From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
> > To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:48 PM
> > Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > small change still seems to be taking longer than it should..
> >
> > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:41:20 -0800
> > From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> > To: geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
> >
> > No a regular publish this time please.
> >
> >
> > From: Prescott
> > Nasser
> > <ge...@hotmail.com>
> > To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:39 PM
> > Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I started the regular publish - but stopped that, should I do a lazy
> > publish?
> >
> > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:36:57 -0800
> > From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> > To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
> >
> > Ok that seems to have gone thru cleanly this time.Now please make another
> > minor edit to the site andlet's flush things thru one last
> > time.
> >
> >
> > From: Joe Schaefer <jo...@yahoo.com>
> > To: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>; "site-dev@apache.org" <
> > site-dev@apache.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> >
> >
> > I had a bug in lazy_publish- please use that insteadwhen you get an error
> > message indicating the mergefailed (like you just did). I'll keep an eye
> > on thingswhile you do.
> >
> > From: Prescott Nasser
> > <ge...@hotmail.com>
> > To:
> > joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:49 PM
> > Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > So, that worked, site was all there - looking good.
> >
> > I made a small change to the index.html page (to up the words that it
> > shows from the blog roll). And hit publish - I seem to be stuck (taking
> > forever)... Not sure why that would occur?
> >
> >
> >
> > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:31:02 -0800
> > From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> > To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
> >
> > Seems to have
> > worked,
> > no?
> >
> > From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
> > To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:11 PM
> > Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Here's goes..
> >
> > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:56:11 -0800
> > From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> > To: geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
> >
> > Try https://cms.apache.org/lucene.net/lazy_publish
> > Quick and dirty if it works ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Prescott Nasser
> > <ge...@hotmail.com>
> > To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:27 PM
> > Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm sorry :( Please by all means take a stab - I'll do nothing until I
> > hear back.
> >
> > > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:24:46 -0800
> > > From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> > > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> > > To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
> > >
> > > Well I watched your attempt to publish the site and you guys
> > > have managed to break svn merge with too many adds/deletes
> > > of the same paths within a single merge session. I suggest
> > > you let me fix your site by nuking the publication tree
> > > and copying things over from staging.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From:
> > Joe Schaefer
> > <jo...@yahoo.com>
> > > > To:
> > Prescott Nasser
> > <ge...@hotmail.com>;
> > "site-dev@apache.org"
> > <si...@apache.org>
> > > >
> > Cc:
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 12:14 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> ________________________________
> > > >> From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
> > > >> To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:58 AM
> > > >> Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks Joe, I really appreciate your help.
> > > >>
> > > >> My next task was to tackle that doc issue. I was experimenting with
> > the
> > > > upload a
> > > >> tarball option hoping that would reduce the number of files in the
> > repo, but
> > > > I
> > > >> found out all it does is unpack it for me, saves me some bandwidth,
> > but does
> > > >
> > nothing
> > > >> to save the tree.
> > > >>
> > > >> A couple of weeks ago, I was making no changes to the docs (and there
> > were
> > > > no pending changes that I saw), and just making a minor change to the
> > index page
> > > > (to announce a new version of Lucene.Net) took FOREVER - same timeout
> > issues.
> > > > This lead me to believe, that regardless of the size of the change,
> > the number
> > > > of files will always be a PIA. But it seems like that shouldn't be the
> > case?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hard to say what the cause of that delay was, but I can assure you it
> > had little
> > > > or nothing
> > > > to do with the overall size of your site. The only O(N) algorithm
> > involved is
> > > > when the build
> > > > system svn up's the tree, and if the changes are already present that
> > > > process shouldn't take
> > > > more
> > than a handful of seconds even for a 10GB site. Of course the actual time
> > > > may fluctuate
> > > > wildly due to server conditions on the cms or svn host systems, but
> > there you
> > > > go.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I just added some docs about this to the bottom of the
> > > > http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref page
> > > > you might want to look over.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> I will publish what we have now (need to fix a minor issue in the
> > 2.9.4
> > > > documentation first), and give a shot at making a minor change.
> > Hopefully
> > > > publishing just a minor change in that case will be quick and painless.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Good luck. I suggest using the publish.pl script on people.apache.organd
> > > > grabbing a cuppa
> > coffee
> > > >
> > while things progress.
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Re: [Lucene.Net] FW: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
Posted by Michael Herndon <mh...@wickedsoftware.net>.
Is it safe to add content to the site through the CMS again? Anything to
be wary of or not explicitly do?
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
> Took all day, but Joe was there babysitting and correcting things for us.
> Basically there is a bug in svn 1.6.17 that the CMS is based on, which is
> making our commits a pain at the moment. Once that gets upgraded it should
> be relatively smooth sailing. It won't help us though if we want still
> planning on updating massive amounts of documentation on a regular basis.
> Thanks Joe, I can't thank you enough for the help today.
> ~PrescottDate: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:49:48 -0800
> From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
>
> After some testing it appears that this performancebug is fixed in svn
> 1.7, but the CMS is currentlyrunning 1.6.17. I hope to have the host
> upgradedwithin the next 30 days or so, but for now I stillrecommend using
> the script.
>
> From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
> To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:28 PM
> Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Alright - sounds good
>
> Thanks again!
>
> ~P
>
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:25:45 -0800
> From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
>
> I'm having some svn people look at the merge issues.Right now all I can
> suggest is that you publish usingthe publish.pl script on
> people.apache.org. It's takingme about 10 min total to carry that out,
> which is certainlytoo long given the nature of the changes it's merging,but
> I'll let you know what I find
> out.
>
> From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
> To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:13 PM
> Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It's butt ugly - all in one directory, 8206 files. I'd prefer a more
> natural docs structure, but that's how it gets generated
>
> ~P
>
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:10:47 -0800
> From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
>
> Ok lemee kill it and use the publish.pl scripton people to see if I can
> get it to work right.Just curious tho- about how many files do youhave
> within that docs dir- all in one dir I presume?
> From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
> To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012
> 5:08 PM
> Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm thinking still merge funk
>
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:05:21 -0800
> From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
>
> Looks like it just completed. Hmm, goahead and publish and lets try this
> onemore time.
>
> From: Joe Schaefer
> <jo...@yahoo.com>
> To: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:02 PM
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>
>
> Yeah more merge funk. Leave it run for now,but don't take any further
> action until youhear from me.
>
> From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
> To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February
> 15, 2012 4:59 PM
> Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I hate to be the bearer of bad news... still taking days to publish (I'm
> not sure if there is a merge error or not) let me know I'll kill this quick
>
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:54:52 -0800
> From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
>
> Yeah try out the webgui and edit/commit/publisha minor change. It should
> take you no more thana minute or so total.
>
> From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
> To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM
> Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Man that sounds like a tool full of awesome!
>
> Ok - so for the moment no new docs, a simple edit should be quick?
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:48:40 -0800
> From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
>
> Ok it's now fixed and your site should work as expectedat this point. I
> had to redact the lazy_publish featureand reserve it for admins only
> because you don't actuallyhave permission to completely remove your
> publication
> sitefrom svn and
> that's not something I can offer
> without
> providingyou and every other
> committer with the ability to nukeeach other's entire sites.
>
>
> From: Joe Schaefer <jo...@yahoo.com>
> To: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:20 PM
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>
>
> Yeah well it's probably timing out somewhere along the line.I'm looking
> into your svn tree now to see if I can figure outwhat's going on.
> Basically the svn merge it's running isdoing evil things.
>
> From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
> To:
> joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:18 PM
> Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sorry, I'm not seeing merge errors, just seeing my browser waiting for a
> response..I'll hold up
>
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:15:32 -0800
> From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> To: geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
>
> Stop Prescott when you get a merge error please.There's something funky
> going on here that I needto dig into and running publish again won't
> magicallyfix it.
>
>
> From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
> To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:52 PM
> Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ah ok, I thought we were past that part - I'm losing track, just blinding
> taking orders at this point :)
>
> ~P
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:50:41 -0800
> From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> To: geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
>
> Yes as I explained before by using lazy_publishyou will incur a
> performance hit the first timeyou subsequently publish normally. Once
> thiscompletes
> things should behave
> properly.
>
> From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
> To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:48 PM
> Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>
>
>
>
>
>
> small change still seems to be taking longer than it should..
>
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:41:20 -0800
> From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> To: geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
>
> No a regular publish this time please.
>
>
> From: Prescott
> Nasser
> <ge...@hotmail.com>
> To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:39 PM
> Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I started the regular publish - but stopped that, should I do a lazy
> publish?
>
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:36:57 -0800
> From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
>
> Ok that seems to have gone thru cleanly this time.Now please make another
> minor edit to the site andlet's flush things thru one last
> time.
>
>
> From: Joe Schaefer <jo...@yahoo.com>
> To: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>; "site-dev@apache.org" <
> site-dev@apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:30 PM
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>
>
> I had a bug in lazy_publish- please use that insteadwhen you get an error
> message indicating the mergefailed (like you just did). I'll keep an eye
> on thingswhile you do.
>
> From: Prescott Nasser
> <ge...@hotmail.com>
> To:
> joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:49 PM
> Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>
>
>
>
>
>
> So, that worked, site was all there - looking good.
>
> I made a small change to the index.html page (to up the words that it
> shows from the blog roll). And hit publish - I seem to be stuck (taking
> forever)... Not sure why that would occur?
>
>
>
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:31:02 -0800
> From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
>
> Seems to have
> worked,
> no?
>
> From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
> To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:11 PM
> Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Here's goes..
>
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:56:11 -0800
> From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> To: geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
>
> Try https://cms.apache.org/lucene.net/lazy_publish
> Quick and dirty if it works ;-)
>
>
>
> From: Prescott Nasser
> <ge...@hotmail.com>
> To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:27 PM
> Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm sorry :( Please by all means take a stab - I'll do nothing until I
> hear back.
>
> > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:24:46 -0800
> > From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> > To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
> >
> > Well I watched your attempt to publish the site and you guys
> > have managed to break svn merge with too many adds/deletes
> > of the same paths within a single merge session. I suggest
> > you let me fix your site by nuking the publication tree
> > and copying things over from staging.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From:
> Joe Schaefer
> <jo...@yahoo.com>
> > > To:
> Prescott Nasser
> <ge...@hotmail.com>;
> "site-dev@apache.org"
> <si...@apache.org>
> > >
> Cc:
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 12:14 PM
> > > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> ________________________________
> > >> From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
> > >> To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:58 AM
> > >> Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Thanks Joe, I really appreciate your help.
> > >>
> > >> My next task was to tackle that doc issue. I was experimenting with
> the
> > > upload a
> > >> tarball option hoping that would reduce the number of files in the
> repo, but
> > > I
> > >> found out all it does is unpack it for me, saves me some bandwidth,
> but does
> > >
> nothing
> > >> to save the tree.
> > >>
> > >> A couple of weeks ago, I was making no changes to the docs (and there
> were
> > > no pending changes that I saw), and just making a minor change to the
> index page
> > > (to announce a new version of Lucene.Net) took FOREVER - same timeout
> issues.
> > > This lead me to believe, that regardless of the size of the change,
> the number
> > > of files will always be a PIA. But it seems like that shouldn't be the
> case?
> > >
> > >
> > > Hard to say what the cause of that delay was, but I can assure you it
> had little
> > > or nothing
> > > to do with the overall size of your site. The only O(N) algorithm
> involved is
> > > when the build
> > > system svn up's the tree, and if the changes are already present that
> > > process shouldn't take
> > > more
> than a handful of seconds even for a 10GB site. Of course the actual time
> > > may fluctuate
> > > wildly due to server conditions on the cms or svn host systems, but
> there you
> > > go.
> > >
> > >
> > > I just added some docs about this to the bottom of the
> > > http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref page
> > > you might want to look over.
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> I will publish what we have now (need to fix a minor issue in the
> 2.9.4
> > > documentation first), and give a shot at making a minor change.
> Hopefully
> > > publishing just a minor change in that case will be quick and painless.
> > >
> > >
> > > Good luck. I suggest using the publish.pl script on people.apache.organd
> > > grabbing a cuppa
> coffee
> > >
> while things progress.
> > >
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[Lucene.Net] Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
Posted by Joe Schaefer <jo...@yahoo.com>.
Modulo this particular bug affecting only your publication
requests, "massive" documentation commits merely require
some follow-through (to publication) as I've written about
today here:
http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref.html#mass-change
So the regularity with which you do this won't present any
particular problems other than increasing the frequency of
the subsequent pain you needto endure to walk mass-changes
through to the live site. Small changes will normally
induce small amounts of pain (modulo this particular bug).
HTH
>________________________________
> From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
>To: lucene-net-dev@lucene.apache.org
>Cc: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 6:30 PM
>Subject: FW: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>
>
>
>Took all day, but Joe was there babysitting and correcting things for us.
>
>Basically there is a bug in svn 1.6.17 that the CMS is based on, which is making our commits a pain at the moment. Once that gets upgraded it should be relatively smooth sailing.
>
>It won't help us though if we want still planning on updating massive amounts of documentation on a regular basis.
>
>
>
>Thanks Joe, I can't thank you enough for the help today.
>
>~Prescott
>
>
>________________________________
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:49:48 -0800
>From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
>
>
>After some testing it appears that this performance
>bug is fixed in svn 1.7, but the CMS is currently
>running 1.6.17. I hope to have the host upgraded
>within the next 30 days or so, but for now I still
>recommend using the script.
>
>
>
>
>>________________________________
>> From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
>>To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:28 PM
>>Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>
>>
>>
>>Alright - sounds good
>>
>>Thanks again!
>>
>>~P
>>
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:25:45 -0800
>>From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
>>
>>
>>I'm having some svn people look at the merge issues.
>>Right now all I can suggest is that you publish using
>>the publish.pl script on people.apache.org. It's taking
>>me about 10 min total to carry that out, which is certainly
>>too long given the nature of the changes it's merging,
>>but I'll let you know what I find out.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>________________________________
>>> From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
>>>To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:13 PM
>>>Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>It's butt ugly - all in one directory, 8206 files. I'd prefer a more natural docs structure, but that's how it gets generated
>>>
>>>~P
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:10:47 -0800
>>>From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>>>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>>To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>Ok lemee kill it and use the publish.pl script
>>>on people to see if I can get it to work right.
>>>Just curious tho- about how many files do you
>>>have within that docs dir- all in one dir I presume?
>>>
>>>
>>>>________________________________
>>>> From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
>>>>To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:08 PM
>>>>Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'm thinking still merge funk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>________________________________
>>>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:05:21 -0800
>>>>From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>>>>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>>>To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Looks like it just completed. Hmm, go
>>>>ahead and publish and lets try this one
>>>>more time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>________________________________
>>>>> From: Joe Schaefer <jo...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>To: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:02 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Yeah more merge funk. Leave it run for now,
>>>>>but don't take any further action until you
>>>>>hear from me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>> From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:59 PM
>>>>>>Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I hate to be the bearer of bad news... still taking days to publish (I'm not sure if there is a merge error or not) let me know I'll kill this quick
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:54:52 -0800
>>>>>>From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>>>>>>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>>>>>To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yeah try out the webgui and edit/commit/publish
>>>>>>a minor change. It should take you no more than
>>>>>>a minute or so total.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>>> From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Man that sounds like a tool full of awesome!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ok - so for the moment no new docs, a simple edit should be quick?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:48:40 -0800
>>>>>>>From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>>>>>>To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ok it's now fixed and your site should work as expected
>>>>>>>at this point. I had to redact the lazy_publish feature
>>>>>>>and reserve it for admins only because you don't actually
>>>>>>>have permission to completely remove your publication site
>>>>>>>from svn and that's not something I can offer without providing
>>>>>>>you and every other committer with the ability to nuke
>>>>>>>each other's entire sites.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>>>> From: Joe Schaefer <jo...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>To: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:20 PM
>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yeah well it's probably timing out somewhere along the line.
>>>>>>>>I'm looking into your svn tree now to see if I can figure out
>>>>>>>>what's going on. Basically the svn merge it's running is
>>>>>>>>doing evil things.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>>>>> From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:18 PM
>>>>>>>>>Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Sorry, I'm not seeing merge errors, just seeing my browser waiting for a response..I'll hold up
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>>>>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:15:32 -0800
>>>>>>>>>From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>>>>>>>>To: geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Stop Prescott when you get a merge error please.
>>>>>>>>>There's something funky going on here that I need
>>>>>>>>>to dig into and running publish again won't magically
>>>>>>>>>fix it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:52 PM
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Ah ok, I thought we were past that part - I'm losing track, just blinding taking orders at this point :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>~P
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:50:41 -0800
>>>>>>>>>>From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>>>>>>>>>To: geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Yes as I explained before by using lazy_publish
>>>>>>>>>>you will incur a performance hit the first time
>>>>>>>>>>you subsequently publish normally. Once this
>>>>>>>>>>completes things should behave properly.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:48 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>small change still seems to be taking longer than it should..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:41:20 -0800
>>>>>>>>>>>From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>>>>>>>>>>To: geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>No a regular publish this time please.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:39 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I started the regular publish - but stopped that, should I do a lazy publish?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:36:57 -0800
>>>>>>>>>>>>From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>>>>>>>>>>>To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Ok that seems to have gone thru cleanly this time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>Now please make another minor edit to the site and
>>>>>>>>>>>>let's flush things thru one last time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Joe Schaefer <jo...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>; "site-dev@apache.org" <si...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:30 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I had a bug in lazy_publish- please use that instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>when you get an error message indicating the merge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>failed (like you just did). I'll keep an eye on things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>while you do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:49 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>So, that worked, site was all there - looking good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I made a small change to the index.html page (to up the words that it shows from the blog roll). And hit publish - I seem to be stuck (taking forever)... Not sure why that would occur?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:31:02 -0800
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Seems to have worked, no?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:11 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Here's goes..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:56:11 -0800
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Try https://cms.apache.org/lucene.net/lazy_publish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Quick and dirty if it works ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:27 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm sorry :( Please by all means take a stab - I'll do nothing until I hear back.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:24:46 -0800
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I watched your attempt to publish the site and you guys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have managed to break svn merge with too many adds/deletes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the same paths within a single merge session. I suggest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you let me fix your site by nuking the publication tree
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and copying things over from staging.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > From:
Joe Schaefer
<jo...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > To:
Prescott Nasser
<ge...@hotmail.com>;
"site-dev@apache.org"
<si...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
Cc:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 12:14 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> From: Prescott Nasser <ge...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:58 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Thanks Joe, I really appreciate your help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> My next task was to tackle that doc issue. I was experimenting with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > upload a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> tarball option hoping that would reduce the number of files in the repo, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> found out all it does is unpack it for me, saves me some bandwidth, but does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> to save the tree.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> A couple of weeks ago, I was making no changes to the docs (and there were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > no pending changes that I saw), and just making a minor change to the index page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > (to announce a new version of Lucene.Net) took FOREVER - same timeout issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > This lead me to believe, that regardless of the size of the change, the number
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > of files will always be a PIA. But it seems like that shouldn't be the case?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Hard to say what the cause of that delay was, but I can assure you it had little
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > or nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > to do with the overall size of your site. The only O(N) algorithm involved is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > when the build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > system svn up's the tree, and if the changes are already present that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > process shouldn't take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > more
than a handful of seconds even for a 10GB site. Of course the actual time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > may fluctuate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wildly due to server conditions on the cms or svn host systems, but there you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > go.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I just added some docs about this to the bottom of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > you might want to look over.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> I will publish what we have now (need to fix a minor issue in the 2.9.4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > documentation first), and give a shot at making a minor change. Hopefully
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > publishing just a minor change in that case will be quick and painless.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Good luck. I suggest using the publish.pl script on people.apache.org and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > grabbing a cuppa
coffee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
while things progress.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
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>
Re: [Lucene.Net] FW: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On 2012-02-16, Prescott Nasser wrote:
> Thanks Joe, I can't thank you enough for the help today.
+1
Many, many thanks Joe
Stefan