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AOO 4.1 Beta Survey Results
Responses to the dev mailing list only, please, so we can avoid
fragmenting the discussion.
Regards,
-Rob
133 responses
"Where did you first hear about the Apache OpenOffice Beta?"
OpenOffice announcement mailing list 44.36%
OpenOffice development mailing list 6.77%
OpenOffice users mailing list 11.28%
OpenOffice Community Forum 0.75%
OpenOffice website 9.02%
OpenOffice Project Blog 2.26%
Facebook 3.01%
Twitter 1.50%
Google+ 6.02%
News article 3.01%
Other 6.77%
No answer 5.26%
[Rob: Did we not mention the Beta on the Forum?
Other: mentioned web searches and coverage on other mailing lists,
e.g., an NVDA mailing list.]
What is your relationship to the Apache OpenOffice project?
User 81.95%
Project volunteer 6.02%
Other 2.26%
No answer 9.77%
[Rob: Good, we're getting users not just the same people who already
tried the RC]
Why did you decide to download and install the Apache OpenOffice 4.1 Beta?
I wanted to test my extension, workflow or other system to make sure
it worked with 4.1 5.26%
I was curious to see what was coming in the next release of
OpenOffice. 63.91%
I hoped that Beta would fix a problem I was having with an earlier
version of OpenOffice. 18.05%
I wanted to help test OpenOffice project by offering my early feedback 23.31%
I wanted to help improve the quality of OpenOffice by looking for bugs
in the Beta 23.31%
Other 6.77% [Rob: Half of "other" mentioned specific interest
testing accessibility.]
What language version(s) of the Apache OpenOffice 4.1 Beta did you use?
Dutch (nl) 2.26%
Danish (da) 1.50%
German (de) 6.02%
Polish (pl) 2.26%
English, British (en-GB) 27.07%
English, American (en-US) 50.38%
Spanish (es) 6.02%
Basque (eu) 0.75%
French (fr) 4.51%
Brazilian Portuguese (pt-BR) 4.51%
Italian (it) 0.75%
Tamil (ta) 1 0.75%
Chinese, traditional (zh-TW) 0.75%
[Rob: Room for improvement here. We lacked beta downloads for many of
of languages, including new translations like Hindi and Bulgarian.
Maybe next time we should link about how we can work with translators
to find ways of getting native language groups to know about the new
translation. The new translations are the ones that would benefit
most from beta feedback, right?]
Did you install an additional Language Pack for use with the Apache
OpenOffice 4.1 Beta?
Yes 10.53%
No 77.44%
No answer 12.03%
What Language Pack(s) did you install with the Apache OpenOffice 4.1 Beta?
Bulgarian (bg) 7.69%
Greek (el) 7.69%
Portuguese (pt) 15.38%
English, British (en-GB) 15.38%
English, American (en-US) 7.69%
Spanish (es) 7.69%
French (fr) 23.08%
Brazilian Portuguese (pt-BR) 15.38%
Italian (it) 7.69%
Tamil (ta) 7.69%
What platform version of OpenOffice 4.1 Beta did you use?
Windows 72.18%
Mac OS 13.53%
Linux-32 4.51%
Linux-64 14.29%
What version(s) of Windows did you use?
Windows XP 15.62%
Windows Vista 6.25%
Windows 7 71.88%
Windows 8 5.21%
Windows 8.1 16.67%
What version(s) of Mac OS did you use?
10.5 0.00%
10.6 0.00%
10.7 11.11%
10.8 0.00%
10.9 0.00%
10.9.1 0.00%
10.9.2 88.89%
What distro/version of Linux did you use? (free text field)
10 Ubuntu's
1 XUbuntu
1 Kubuntu
2 OpenSuse
1 PCLinuxOS
2 Mint
1 Fedora
2 Debian
Did you install and use any Extensions with Apache OpenOffice 4.1 Beta?
Yes 16.54%
No 66.92%
No answer 16.54%
What Extensions did you use?
[ Rob: 22 Responses. Before giving the list I'll mention 2 responses
noted problems:
1) Presentation Minimize not working (not details)
2) Presenter Console 1.1.0, PDF Import 1.0.4 won't install
3) User needed to install Pt dictionary since it was missing in the
install set and Langpack
(https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124423)]
presentation minimizer.
Google
Oracle Presenter Console 1.1.0,
PDF Import 1.0.4
English (Canadian)
Dictionary and spelling (italian, spanish, french and English), epub
binder, perfectepub and write2epub,pdfimport, pagination, Mysql
connector.
Templates
Crop - Epubgenerator - Diccionarios - Alba
dictionary
own
CropOoo
ClipArt by open-office.es
PDF import for Apache OpenOffice
Basic IDE Tools
ooEs Palette
WriterRotationTool
LanguageTool
SmART Extension
PhotoAlbum ES
Portuguese dictionary
various dictionaries
English spelling and hyphenations dictionaries and thesaurus
OOOP-accessories-2.8.0.0.oxt
Sun Report
Spellchecker
Anaphraseus, Magenta Chemistry, OpenCards 1.5.1, PDF Import,
PicoSvoxOOo, SuperbChemistry.
SpellChecker
Epub Writer
PDF import
Code 128 Barcodes For OpenOffice Calc
vero
How many hours did you spend using/testing the OpenOffice 4.1 Beta?
117 responses. Total time 1463 hours (or 61 days) of additional test
effort. Average use time 12.5 hours.
Which OpenOffice applications did you use from the Beta?
Writer 87.22%
Calc 57.14%
Impress 27.07%
Draw 19.55%
Base 16.54%
[Rob: Glad to see that Base got some attention.]
Which of the following new features did you try?
64-bit Mac support 7.52%
Integrated iAccessible2 4.51%
Annotations of text ranges in Writer. 24.81%
In-place editing of text fields in Writer 31.58%
Interactive image crop feature for Impress and Draw 15.79%
Enhanced support for 3D charts 12.03%
Did you encounter any serious problems in your use of Apache
OpenOffice 4.1 that you did not already report to us via Bugzilla or
our mailing lists?
Yes 11.28%
No 73.68%
No answer 15.04%
Please describe the issue(s) you encountered.
1. [Mac OS 10.9.2 user]
When I open old openoffice docs, it tells me that all fields cannot be
opened, but it looks fine when it's opened.
Also, when I save a doc, it tells me that there is an error, that it
didn't save it when in fact it really did save it.
2. Cant install on Ubuntu, No deb file, No PPA, Just one install file
3. [Windws 8.1 user]
After installing and using, the program will not open again. The
computer must be rebooted to get the Open Office Beta to restart. This
event has occurred several times.
4 [Windows 7 user].
A. In OO Calc all Formulas already set will change to REF, when any of
the linked file is causing problem.
B. Sometimes it showing like macros are disabled, when opening any
Calc file. And we cannot remove that also.
C. We cannot set date format like dd/mm/yyyy
D. It's too slow when opening OO calc containing more than 20 sheets.
E. After we open any excel file containing page break, then any other
file will open after restarting the system.
5 [Linux Mint user]
OpenOffice Base
Create a simple query
Define the order of fields
Save the query
Open in design mode the query
Order are lost!!!
Open in SQL view the query
Order is correct!!!
6. [Windows XP user]
desktop icon did not work
did not pickup all personal settings
backup path
load save options
tab stops setting
default basic font
footnote setting in default page in writer
7.
A. NVDA is unable to report justification (left, right, centered, etc)
information when using its shortcut key NVDA+F for formatting summary.
Other font info, such as attributes and font, is reported.
B. with NVDA, after making changes to text attributes via the context
menu in a Writer document, I am unable to move the cursor with
ctrl+left/right arrows until I clear the selection by pressing down
arrow.
8. [Ubuntu 13.10 user] Crashes on start.
9. Invisible scrollbars
10. [Windows 8.1 user] Worked well, and then suddenly stopped
functioning entirely. Can no longer open OpenOffice 4.1
11. [Windows 7 user] The first time I used it the program just stopped
after 30 minutes
11. AOO Beta seems not to work well with screen reader in dialog boxes
in Calc and Writer. Screen reader is NVDA.
12. [OpenSuse user] No desktop integration, but that might be normal
in a beta release
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Re: AOO 4.1 Beta Survey Results
Posted by Andre Fischer <aw...@gmail.com>.
On 25.03.2014 19:52, Rob Weir wrote:
> 9. Invisible scrollbars
>
This is a problem with the default theme (Adwaita) of the gnome shell,
which is used by Fedora 20. There are other paint errors as well. See
issue 124482 [1] for details.
-Andre
[1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124482
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Re: AOO 4.1 Beta Survey Results
Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 03/25/2014 07:52 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>
> [...]
>
> What language version(s) of the Apache OpenOffice 4.1 Beta did you use?
>
> Dutch (nl) 2.26%
> Danish (da) 1.50%
> German (de) 6.02%
> Polish (pl) 2.26%
> English, British (en-GB) 27.07%
> English, American (en-US) 50.38%
> Spanish (es) 6.02%
> Basque (eu) 0.75%
> French (fr) 4.51%
> Brazilian Portuguese (pt-BR) 4.51%
> Italian (it) 0.75%
> Tamil (ta) 1 0.75%
> Chinese, traditional (zh-TW) 0.75%
>
> [Rob: Room for improvement here. We lacked beta downloads for many of
> of languages, including new translations like Hindi and Bulgarian.
> Maybe next time we should link about how we can work with translators
> to find ways of getting native language groups to know about the new
> translation. The new translations are the ones that would benefit
> most from beta feedback, right?]
Due to a mistake downloads for "Norwegian (Bokmal) (nb)" were not
possible. I've fixed this today evening. Lets hope that we get at least
some downloads and feedback in the remaining days.
The other new languages were available with a download link to an
install file.
I'm very sorry for this error.
>
> [...]
>
Marcus
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Re: AOO 4.1 Beta Survey Results
Posted by Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com>.
Just a small remark:
Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> JSC: interesting is that only 10.7 and 10.9.2 systems were used. Ok ,
> 10.7 don't work anymore but I mean more the lack of 10.8, 10.9 10.9.1.
> Good to see that people upgrade fast
>
After installing 10.9.2, I can see why now: 10.9.2 upgrade is offered for
free(!) by Apple.
Maybe that helps to explain part of the mystery.
P.S. I'd recommend to mention the number of people, too; not just
percentages. E.g. Mac 10.7 - 11.11% (2)
In case number of people is small, 0% isn't that a rare incident.
Re: AOO 4.1 Beta Survey Results
Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 3/25/14 7:52 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> Responses to the dev mailing list only, please, so we can avoid
> fragmenting the discussion.
thank you for all the work on the survey, I think nit is very useful
more comments below
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
>
> 133 responses
>
> "Where did you first hear about the Apache OpenOffice Beta?"
>
> OpenOffice announcement mailing list 44.36%
> OpenOffice development mailing list 6.77%
> OpenOffice users mailing list 11.28%
> OpenOffice Community Forum 0.75%
> OpenOffice website 9.02%
> OpenOffice Project Blog 2.26%
> Facebook 3.01%
> Twitter 1.50%
> Google+ 6.02%
> News article 3.01%
> Other 6.77%
> No answer 5.26%
>
> [Rob: Did we not mention the Beta on the Forum?
>
> Other: mentioned web searches and coverage on other mailing lists,
> e.g., an NVDA mailing list.]
>
>
> What is your relationship to the Apache OpenOffice project?
>
> User 81.95%
> Project volunteer 6.02%
> Other 2.26%
> No answer 9.77%
>
> [Rob: Good, we're getting users not just the same people who already
> tried the RC]
>
> Why did you decide to download and install the Apache OpenOffice 4.1 Beta?
>
>
> I wanted to test my extension, workflow or other system to make sure
> it worked with 4.1 5.26%
>
> I was curious to see what was coming in the next release of
> OpenOffice. 63.91%
> I hoped that Beta would fix a problem I was having with an earlier
> version of OpenOffice. 18.05%
>
> I wanted to help test OpenOffice project by offering my early feedback 23.31%
>
> I wanted to help improve the quality of OpenOffice by looking for bugs
> in the Beta 23.31%
JSC: the latter 2 answers are promising
>
> What version(s) of Mac OS did you use?
>
> 10.5 0.00%
> 10.6 0.00%
> 10.7 11.11%
> 10.8 0.00%
> 10.9 0.00%
> 10.9.1 0.00%
> 10.9.2 88.89%
>
JSC: interesting is that only 10.7 and 10.9.2 systems were used. Ok ,
10.7 don't work anymore but I mean more the lack of 10.8, 10.9 10.9.1.
Good to see that people upgrade fast
>
> What Extensions did you use?
>
> [ Rob: 22 Responses. Before giving the list I'll mention 2 responses
> noted problems:
>
> 1) Presentation Minimize not working (not details)
>
> 2) Presenter Console 1.1.0, PDF Import 1.0.4 won't install
>
> 3) User needed to install Pt dictionary since it was missing in the
> install set and Langpack
> (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124423)]
>
JSC: we should at least prevent the minimizer and presenter from
installation ... Have to check
>
> Which OpenOffice applications did you use from the Beta?
>
> Writer 87.22%
> Calc 57.14%
> Impress 27.07%
> Draw 19.55%
> Base 16.54%
>
> [Rob: Glad to see that Base got some attention.]
JSC: nevertheless is Base an area where we have a lack of volunteers and
knowledge
>
> Which of the following new features did you try?
>
>
> 64-bit Mac support 7.52%
> Integrated iAccessible2 4.51%
> Annotations of text ranges in Writer. 24.81%
> In-place editing of text fields in Writer 31.58%
> Interactive image crop feature for Impress and Draw 15.79%
> Enhanced support for 3D charts 12.03%
>
> Did you encounter any serious problems in your use of Apache
> OpenOffice 4.1 that you did not already report to us via Bugzilla or
> our mailing lists?
>
> Yes 11.28%
> No 73.68%
> No answer 15.04%
>
JSC: this is good, >76% with no serious problems is promising and I hope
we were able to address at least most of the problems
>
> Please describe the issue(s) you encountered.
>
> 1. [Mac OS 10.9.2 user]
>
> When I open old openoffice docs, it tells me that all fields cannot be
> opened, but it looks fine when it's opened.
>
> Also, when I save a doc, it tells me that there is an error, that it
> didn't save it when in fact it really did save it.
JSC: this was my fault and a rebuilt (no changes were necessary) would
have been a good idea. A further reason why a working Mac build bot is a
"must"requirement
>
>
> 2. Cant install on Ubuntu, No deb file, No PPA, Just one install file
>
> 3. [Windws 8.1 user]
>
> After installing and using, the program will not open again. The
> computer must be rebooted to get the Open Office Beta to restart. This
> event has occurred several times.
>
> 4 [Windows 7 user].
>
> A. In OO Calc all Formulas already set will change to REF, when any of
> the linked file is causing problem.
>
> B. Sometimes it showing like macros are disabled, when opening any
> Calc file. And we cannot remove that also.
>
> C. We cannot set date format like dd/mm/yyyy
>
> D. It's too slow when opening OO calc containing more than 20 sheets.
>
> E. After we open any excel file containing page break, then any other
> file will open after restarting the system.
>
>
> 5 [Linux Mint user]
>
> OpenOffice Base
>
> Create a simple query
> Define the order of fields
> Save the query
>
> Open in design mode the query
> Order are lost!!!
>
> Open in SQL view the query
> Order is correct!!!
>
> 6. [Windows XP user]
>
> desktop icon did not work
> did not pickup all personal settings
> backup path
> load save options
> tab stops setting
> default basic font
> footnote setting in default page in writer
>
>
> 7.
>
> A. NVDA is unable to report justification (left, right, centered, etc)
> information when using its shortcut key NVDA+F for formatting summary.
> Other font info, such as attributes and font, is reported.
>
> B. with NVDA, after making changes to text attributes via the context
> menu in a Writer document, I am unable to move the cursor with
> ctrl+left/right arrows until I clear the selection by pressing down
> arrow.
>
> 8. [Ubuntu 13.10 user] Crashes on start.
>
> 9. Invisible scrollbars
>
> 10. [Windows 8.1 user] Worked well, and then suddenly stopped
> functioning entirely. Can no longer open OpenOffice 4.1
>
> 11. [Windows 7 user] The first time I used it the program just stopped
> after 30 minutes
>
> 11. AOO Beta seems not to work well with screen reader in dialog boxes
> in Calc and Writer. Screen reader is NVDA.
>
> 12. [OpenSuse user] No desktop integration, but that might be normal
> in a beta release
JSC: indeed normal for the beta but we still have a problem when LO is
installed ...
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Re: AOO 4.1 Beta Survey Results
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> Responses to the dev mailing list only, please, so we can avoid
> fragmenting the discussion.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
Thanks for all this...
Being a Linux user, a few remarks -- inline
>
> 133 responses
>
> "Where did you first hear about the Apache OpenOffice Beta?"
>
> OpenOffice announcement mailing list 44.36%
> OpenOffice development mailing list 6.77%
> OpenOffice users mailing list 11.28%
> OpenOffice Community Forum 0.75%
> OpenOffice website 9.02%
> OpenOffice Project Blog 2.26%
> Facebook 3.01%
> Twitter 1.50%
> Google+ 6.02%
> News article 3.01%
> Other 6.77%
> No answer 5.26%
>
> [Rob: Did we not mention the Beta on the Forum?
>
> Other: mentioned web searches and coverage on other mailing lists,
> e.g., an NVDA mailing list.]
>
>
> What is your relationship to the Apache OpenOffice project?
>
> User 81.95%
> Project volunteer 6.02%
> Other 2.26%
> No answer 9.77%
>
> [Rob: Good, we're getting users not just the same people who already
> tried the RC]
>
> Why did you decide to download and install the Apache OpenOffice 4.1 Beta?
>
>
> I wanted to test my extension, workflow or other system to make sure
> it worked with 4.1 5.26%
>
> I was curious to see what was coming in the next release of
> OpenOffice. 63.91%
> I hoped that Beta would fix a problem I was having with an earlier
> version of OpenOffice. 18.05%
>
> I wanted to help test OpenOffice project by offering my early feedback
> 23.31%
>
> I wanted to help improve the quality of OpenOffice by looking for bugs
> in the Beta 23.31%
>
> Other 6.77% [Rob: Half of "other" mentioned specific interest
> testing accessibility.]
>
>
> What language version(s) of the Apache OpenOffice 4.1 Beta did you use?
>
> Dutch (nl) 2.26%
> Danish (da) 1.50%
> German (de) 6.02%
> Polish (pl) 2.26%
> English, British (en-GB) 27.07%
> English, American (en-US) 50.38%
> Spanish (es) 6.02%
> Basque (eu) 0.75%
> French (fr) 4.51%
> Brazilian Portuguese (pt-BR) 4.51%
> Italian (it) 0.75%
> Tamil (ta) 1 0.75%
> Chinese, traditional (zh-TW) 0.75%
>
> [Rob: Room for improvement here. We lacked beta downloads for many of
> of languages, including new translations like Hindi and Bulgarian.
> Maybe next time we should link about how we can work with translators
> to find ways of getting native language groups to know about the new
> translation. The new translations are the ones that would benefit
> most from beta feedback, right?]
>
> Did you install an additional Language Pack for use with the Apache
> OpenOffice 4.1 Beta?
>
>
> Yes 10.53%
> No 77.44%
> No answer 12.03%
>
> What Language Pack(s) did you install with the Apache OpenOffice 4.1 Beta?
>
>
> Bulgarian (bg) 7.69%
> Greek (el) 7.69%
> Portuguese (pt) 15.38%
> English, British (en-GB) 15.38%
> English, American (en-US) 7.69%
> Spanish (es) 7.69%
> French (fr) 23.08%
> Brazilian Portuguese (pt-BR) 15.38%
> Italian (it) 7.69%
> Tamil (ta) 7.69%
>
>
> What platform version of OpenOffice 4.1 Beta did you use?
>
>
> Windows 72.18%
> Mac OS 13.53%
> Linux-32 4.51%
> Linux-64 14.29%
>
>
> What version(s) of Windows did you use?
>
> Windows XP 15.62%
> Windows Vista 6.25%
> Windows 7 71.88%
> Windows 8 5.21%
> Windows 8.1 16.67%
>
> What version(s) of Mac OS did you use?
>
> 10.5 0.00%
> 10.6 0.00%
> 10.7 11.11%
> 10.8 0.00%
> 10.9 0.00%
> 10.9.1 0.00%
> 10.9.2 88.89%
>
> What distro/version of Linux did you use? (free text field)
>
> 10 Ubuntu's
> 1 XUbuntu
> 1 Kubuntu
> 2 OpenSuse
> 1 PCLinuxOS
> 2 Mint
> 1 Fedora
> 2 Debian
>
> Did you install and use any Extensions with Apache OpenOffice 4.1 Beta?
>
> Yes 16.54%
> No 66.92%
> No answer 16.54%
>
> What Extensions did you use?
>
> [ Rob: 22 Responses. Before giving the list I'll mention 2 responses
> noted problems:
>
> 1) Presentation Minimize not working (not details)
>
> 2) Presenter Console 1.1.0, PDF Import 1.0.4 won't install
>
> 3) User needed to install Pt dictionary since it was missing in the
> install set and Langpack
> (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124423)]
>
>
> presentation minimizer.
> Google
> Oracle Presenter Console 1.1.0,
> PDF Import 1.0.4
> English (Canadian)
> Dictionary and spelling (italian, spanish, french and English), epub
> binder, perfectepub and write2epub,pdfimport, pagination, Mysql
> connector.
> Templates
> Crop - Epubgenerator - Diccionarios - Alba
> dictionary
> own
> CropOoo
> ClipArt by open-office.es
> PDF import for Apache OpenOffice
> Basic IDE Tools
> ooEs Palette
> WriterRotationTool
> LanguageTool
> SmART Extension
> PhotoAlbum ES
> Portuguese dictionary
> various dictionaries
> English spelling and hyphenations dictionaries and thesaurus
> OOOP-accessories-2.8.0.0.oxt
> Sun Report
> Spellchecker
> Anaphraseus, Magenta Chemistry, OpenCards 1.5.1, PDF Import,
> PicoSvoxOOo, SuperbChemistry.
> SpellChecker
> Epub Writer
> PDF import
> Code 128 Barcodes For OpenOffice Calc
> vero
>
> How many hours did you spend using/testing the OpenOffice 4.1 Beta?
>
> 117 responses. Total time 1463 hours (or 61 days) of additional test
> effort. Average use time 12.5 hours.
>
> Which OpenOffice applications did you use from the Beta?
>
> Writer 87.22%
> Calc 57.14%
> Impress 27.07%
> Draw 19.55%
> Base 16.54%
>
> [Rob: Glad to see that Base got some attention.]
>
> Which of the following new features did you try?
>
>
> 64-bit Mac support 7.52%
> Integrated iAccessible2 4.51%
> Annotations of text ranges in Writer. 24.81%
> In-place editing of text fields in Writer 31.58%
> Interactive image crop feature for Impress and Draw 15.79%
> Enhanced support for 3D charts 12.03%
>
> Did you encounter any serious problems in your use of Apache
> OpenOffice 4.1 that you did not already report to us via Bugzilla or
> our mailing lists?
>
> Yes 11.28%
> No 73.68%
> No answer 15.04%
>
>
> Please describe the issue(s) you encountered.
>
> 1. [Mac OS 10.9.2 user]
>
> When I open old openoffice docs, it tells me that all fields cannot be
> opened, but it looks fine when it's opened.
>
> Also, when I save a doc, it tells me that there is an error, that it
> didn't save it when in fact it really did save it.
>
>
> 2. Cant install on Ubuntu, No deb file, No PPA, Just one install file
>
Kay: ??? Is this a complaint that we don't have .deb files, which we do, or
that this person doesn't want a deb file.
>
> 3. [Windws 8.1 user]
>
> After installing and using, the program will not open again. The
> computer must be rebooted to get the Open Office Beta to restart. This
> event has occurred several times.
>
> 4 [Windows 7 user].
>
> A. In OO Calc all Formulas already set will change to REF, when any of
> the linked file is causing problem.
>
> B. Sometimes it showing like macros are disabled, when opening any
> Calc file. And we cannot remove that also.
>
> C. We cannot set date format like dd/mm/yyyy
>
> D. It's too slow when opening OO calc containing more than 20 sheets.
>
> E. After we open any excel file containing page break, then any other
> file will open after restarting the system.
>
>
> 5 [Linux Mint user]
>
> OpenOffice Base
>
> Create a simple query
> Define the order of fields
> Save the query
>
> Open in design mode the query
> Order are lost!!!
>
> Open in SQL view the query
> Order is correct!!!
>
> 6. [Windows XP user]
>
> desktop icon did not work
> did not pickup all personal settings
> backup path
> load save options
> tab stops setting
> default basic font
> footnote setting in default page in writer
>
>
> 7.
>
> A. NVDA is unable to report justification (left, right, centered, etc)
> information when using its shortcut key NVDA+F for formatting summary.
> Other font info, such as attributes and font, is reported.
>
> B. with NVDA, after making changes to text attributes via the context
> menu in a Writer document, I am unable to move the cursor with
> ctrl+left/right arrows until I clear the selection by pressing down
> arrow.
>
> 8. [Ubuntu 13.10 user] Crashes on start.
>
> 9. Invisible scrollbars
>
> 10. [Windows 8.1 user] Worked well, and then suddenly stopped
> functioning entirely. Can no longer open OpenOffice 4.1
>
> 11. [Windows 7 user] The first time I used it the program just stopped
> after 30 minutes
>
> 11. AOO Beta seems not to work well with screen reader in dialog boxes
> in Calc and Writer. Screen reader is NVDA.
>
> 12. [OpenSuse user] No desktop integration, but that might be normal
> in a beta release
>
K: ??? They need to use freedesktop integration, which was included, and is
described in the Installation Instructions. I'm not sure what else we can
do about this, except exclude all the desktop integration stuff in the
separate directory (most of which no longer applies) as we do now, and put
just the freedesktop stuff in the main rpms for installation. I'm 90%
certain this would work for most Linux distros. Freedesktop is used by both
KDE and Gnome now.
>
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Re: AOO 4.1 Beta Survey Results
Posted by Herbert Duerr <hd...@apache.org>.
> [...]
> Please describe the issue(s) you encountered.
>
> 1. [Mac OS 10.9.2 user]
>
> When I open old openoffice docs, it tells me that all fields cannot be
> opened, but it looks fine when it's opened.
This was local problem of the machine that was used for creating the
Beta 4.1 binaries for Mac. The problem has been analyzed [1] and the
machine is fixed now so that the next builds will be clean.
[1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124426
> Also, when I save a doc, it tells me that there is an error, that it
> didn't save it when in fact it really did save it.
This had the same root cause as above [1].
Herbert
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Re: AOO 4.1 Beta Survey Results
Posted by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>.
On Thu, 01 May 2014 17:10:27 +0200
Hagar Delest <ha...@laposte.net> wrote:
> Le 25/03/2014 23:17, Andrea Pescetti a écrit :
> > Rob Weir wrote:
> >> Responses to the dev mailing list only, please, so we can avoid
> >> fragmenting the discussion.
> >
> > A lot of nice stuff here.
> >
> >> [Rob: Did we not mention the Beta on the Forum? ]
> >
> > Indeed, I don't see it in the announcements of the English forum, even though it was announced in other forums. But I believe that the main reason for a low percentage of people who had heard that the Beta was available through the forum is simply that your survey was not announced on the forum.
> My bad.
> I've had some hectic moments in March and April, couldn't really keep an eye on the ML.
>
> I'll try to think about it in the future.
>
I did publish a pointer to the Beta in some replies on the Forum, but I was cautious, as too many inexperienced Users trying the Beta could have caused bad experience to those Users and hence increased workload on the Forum. Like Hagar, I've been having a bad few months, though I hope for different reasons - averaging 5 hours broken sleep every night because of family illness.
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Re: AOO 4.1 Beta Survey Results
Posted by Hagar Delest <ha...@laposte.net>.
Le 25/03/2014 23:17, Andrea Pescetti a écrit :
> Rob Weir wrote:
>> Responses to the dev mailing list only, please, so we can avoid
>> fragmenting the discussion.
>
> A lot of nice stuff here.
>
>> [Rob: Did we not mention the Beta on the Forum? ]
>
> Indeed, I don't see it in the announcements of the English forum, even though it was announced in other forums. But I believe that the main reason for a low percentage of people who had heard that the Beta was available through the forum is simply that your survey was not announced on the forum.
My bad.
I've had some hectic moments in March and April, couldn't really keep an eye on the ML.
I'll try to think about it in the future.
Hagar
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Re: AOO 4.1 Beta Survey Results
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Rob Weir wrote:
> Responses to the dev mailing list only, please, so we can avoid
> fragmenting the discussion.
A lot of nice stuff here.
> [Rob: Did we not mention the Beta on the Forum? ]
Indeed, I don't see it in the announcements of the English forum, even
though it was announced in other forums. But I believe that the main
reason for a low percentage of people who had heard that the Beta was
available through the forum is simply that your survey was not announced
on the forum.
> What Extensions did you use?
> [ Rob: 22 Responses. Before giving the list I'll mention 2 responses
> noted problems:
> 1) Presentation Minimize not working (not details)
> 2) Presenter Console 1.1.0, PDF Import 1.0.4 won't install
Presentation Minimizer is now integrated (Tools menu in Impress), so it
doesn't make sense to install it.
The Presenter Console is now integrated too, right?
And PDF Import 1.0.4... well, see
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/oracle-pdf-import-extension
; if one tries to install an extension that has a description beginning
with "If you are using Apache OpenOffice 4.0 or later, you must use
another version: PDF Import for Apache OpenOffice" then it's normal that
it won't work.
Though, we should have blacklisted all of these, and possibly more, in
the 3.x -> 4.x upgrade process.
> Please describe the issue(s) you encountered.
[ keeping only those where I can give some feedback; but all of them are
worth a look ]
> 2. Cant install on Ubuntu, No deb file, No PPA, Just one install file
It is a .tar.gz file that the user should extract. There's plenty of
documentation on the Forum on how to deal with this. But I agree that
people who are really scared of the command line may find this difficult.
> 8. [Ubuntu 13.10 user] Crashes on start.
We also have reports saying that it works normally with Ubuntu 13.10.
This should be investigated but with no details we can't do much.
> 12. [OpenSuse user] No desktop integration, but that might be normal
> in a beta release
Yes, this was intentional.
Regards,
Andrea.
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