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Posted to dev@commons.apache.org by Torsten Curdt <tc...@vafer.org> on 2012/02/08 19:40:40 UTC

[logging] Re: any plans for commons-logging-2.0?

> Would there be some interest for creating a commons-logging-2.0?

I had some code for CL2 version. Basically commons 1.x but without the
detection logic.
So you pick the implementation by having the right jar in the
classpath. Not sure I still have it.

At some stage I just gave up. Mostly because I feared the discussions.
Logging is always power drainer because of all the bike shedding
...but feel free to bring it on :)

cheers,
Torsten

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Re: [logging] Re: any plans for commons-logging-2.0?

Posted by Torsten Curdt <tc...@vafer.org>.
> Anyway, if there are some reasons to continue working I would welcome
> Torstens approach of course! Not that I want to take out the
> enthusiasm here

I am also not sure it's worth the effort TBH.

FWIW: for libraries I ended up usually having no logging dependency at
all and for projects I just pick an implementation.

This world has already spent enough time and energy on logging frameworks IMO.

cheers,
Torsten

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Re: [logging] Re: any plans for commons-logging-2.0?

Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
Sorry to ask a bit naive, but does cl2.0 make sense with log4j 2.0 in
mind? It seems log4j 2.0 does have such an abstraction and there is
slf4j too. Probably it is time to go dormant instead?

Anyway, if there are some reasons to continue working I would welcome
Torstens approach of course! Not that I want to take out the
enthusiasm here


On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org> wrote:
> hi guys,
> you have the full support also from my side, a fresh new era of
> commons-components has to born.
> I am +1 to work on a commons-logging-2.0. "It's clobberin' time!"
>
> all the best,
> -Simo
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
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>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Torsten Curdt <tc...@vafer.org> wrote:
>>
>>> > Would there be some interest for creating a commons-logging-2.0?
>>>
>>> I had some code for CL2 version. Basically commons 1.x but without the
>>> detection logic.
>>> So you pick the implementation by having the right jar in the
>>> classpath. Not sure I still have it.
>>>
>>> At some stage I just gave up. Mostly because I feared the discussions.
>>> Logging is always power drainer because of all the bike shedding
>>> ...but feel free to bring it on :)
>>>
>>
>> Yeah,  bring it on! :)
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Torsten
>>>
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>>
>>
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Re: [logging] Re: any plans for commons-logging-2.0?

Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
hi guys,
you have the full support also from my side, a fresh new era of
commons-components has to born.
I am +1 to work on a commons-logging-2.0. "It's clobberin' time!"

all the best,
-Simo

http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
http://www.99soft.org/



On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Torsten Curdt <tc...@vafer.org> wrote:
>
>> > Would there be some interest for creating a commons-logging-2.0?
>>
>> I had some code for CL2 version. Basically commons 1.x but without the
>> detection logic.
>> So you pick the implementation by having the right jar in the
>> classpath. Not sure I still have it.
>>
>> At some stage I just gave up. Mostly because I feared the discussions.
>> Logging is always power drainer because of all the bike shedding
>> ...but feel free to bring it on :)
>>
>
> Yeah,  bring it on! :)
>
> Gary
>
>
>> cheers,
>> Torsten
>>
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>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [logging] Re: any plans for commons-logging-2.0?

Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Torsten Curdt <tc...@vafer.org> wrote:

> > Would there be some interest for creating a commons-logging-2.0?
>
> I had some code for CL2 version. Basically commons 1.x but without the
> detection logic.
> So you pick the implementation by having the right jar in the
> classpath. Not sure I still have it.
>
> At some stage I just gave up. Mostly because I feared the discussions.
> Logging is always power drainer because of all the bike shedding
> ...but feel free to bring it on :)
>

Yeah,  bring it on! :)

Gary


> cheers,
> Torsten
>
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