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Posted to dev@turbine.apache.org by Martin van den Bemt <ml...@mvdb.net> on 2002/05/24 11:20:09 UTC
Does anybody care about bugzilla issues??
First of all : sorry about this mail, but I need some answers..
A couple of things you need to know in advance :
- I am not using turbine 2 at all
- Depending on the answers I will stop or continue fixing bugs for
turbine 2.
I am curently trying to fix some issues in Turbine 2. I asked for
response in bugzilla and nobody is responding. For one issue I also
posted a seperate mail, to force a bit of response, which I didn't get
yet.
The 2 links to the bugs are below..
This can mean a number of things (please supply your answers..):
- You are in the wrong bug database (note : I cannot reach the scarab
one btw)
- I don't care about t2
- I don't care about t2 bugs
- I don't care about bugs at all
- I don't know the answer to the questions.
- I don't know the intended behaviour of the bugs.
- I don't want patches by people you don't know.
- I really don't have time for bugs right now
- Someone else is handling all of these things (who??)
Since I am not a committer I don't have any influence on the process (at
least so it seems), so I rely on feedback from committers / people who
have some influence. I can understand that new "functionality" patches
won't get answered or ignored (although I don't like it..), but bugs in
bugzilla, deserve a reply in my opinion.
This mail is not intended at critizing the efforts you all make to get
the turbine stuff better or make it, it is just to let other people, who
are also willing to invest time, can get it better too.
Mvgr,
Martin van den Bemt
Bug links :
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=7064
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=8655
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Re: Does anybody care about bugzilla issues??
Posted by Pier Fumagalli <pi...@apache.org>.
"Martin van den Bemt" <ml...@mvdb.net> wrote:
> Hmm I have to withdraw my statement that it works.
> If you mean by working "do you see a screen?" I must say yes
> By meaning : is it useable : absolutely NO.
> You can debate about how accessable scarab is anyway (just want a query
> of all bugs which concern turbine, which looks impossible to get)
> and I get (after 10 minutes or so) a Bad Gateway (502) error doing a
> query with a message saying : error reading from remote server.
>
> Hope bugzilla can be reinstated for all turbine issues, so we have a
> workable system.
> Maybe I am not too flexible at this point and my judgement made of the
> system is completely based on the useabiliy, which is zero (except for
> logging into scarab).
>
> Pier is on the cc list, because the error said that I had to contact him
> if I think there was a server error ;)..
> Search in the logs for May 25, 04:39:21 2002 It happened then ;)
Martin, the copy we have on Nagoya is _really_ old. You should base your
judgment on the latest snapshot, which you can see at
http://scarab.whichever.com/
Pier
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Re: Does anybody care about bugzilla issues??
Posted by Martin van den Bemt <ml...@mvdb.net>.
Hmm I have to withdraw my statement that it works.
If you mean by working "do you see a screen?" I must say yes
By meaning : is it useable : absolutely NO.
You can debate about how accessable scarab is anyway (just want a query
of all bugs which concern turbine, which looks impossible to get)
and I get (after 10 minutes or so) a Bad Gateway (502) error doing a
query with a message saying : error reading from remote server.
Hope bugzilla can be reinstated for all turbine issues, so we have a
workable system.
Maybe I am not too flexible at this point and my judgement made of the
system is completely based on the useabiliy, which is zero (except for
logging into scarab).
Pier is on the cc list, because the error said that I had to contact him
if I think there was a server error ;)..
Search in the logs for May 25, 04:39:21 2002 It happened then ;)
Mvgr,
Martin
On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 13:34, Martin van den Bemt wrote:
> > > On the wrong bug database or that I cannot reach the scarab one ;)
> > > If it is the wrong database, all current issues in bugzilla should be
> > > closed and say that is moved to another bug database. (I am willing to
> > > do that btw, if I can reach the scarab one)
> >
> > http://nagoya.apache.org/scarab/servlet/scarab doesn't work for you?
>
> Yep that one works, but doesn't contain a turbine-2 or turbine-3 group..
> See another mail for the patch of the turbin-2 site refernce to to
> correct scarab url..
>
> Mvgr,
> Martin
>
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Re: Does anybody care about bugzilla issues??
Posted by Martin van den Bemt <ml...@mvdb.net>.
> > On the wrong bug database or that I cannot reach the scarab one ;)
> > If it is the wrong database, all current issues in bugzilla should be
> > closed and say that is moved to another bug database. (I am willing to
> > do that btw, if I can reach the scarab one)
>
> http://nagoya.apache.org/scarab/servlet/scarab doesn't work for you?
Yep that one works, but doesn't contain a turbine-2 or turbine-3 group..
See another mail for the patch of the turbin-2 site refernce to to
correct scarab url..
Mvgr,
Martin
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Re: Does anybody care about bugzilla issues??
Posted by James Taylor <jt...@4lane.com>.
> On the wrong bug database or that I cannot reach the scarab one ;)
> If it is the wrong database, all current issues in bugzilla should be
> closed and say that is moved to another bug database. (I am willing to
> do that btw, if I can reach the scarab one)
http://nagoya.apache.org/scarab/servlet/scarab doesn't work for you?
> I have a test case (for me almost the only way to get things tested in
> the first place), but you cannot use it as a testcase in turbine, since
> I adjusted the turbine sources, to get it fixed independetly of turbine
> in the first place ;). (turbine 2 is lacking a lot of tests anyway..)
> Any tips on getting this running in a test without stripping out calls
> to the eg TurbinResources (besides from running Turbine itself..)
You can start turbine from a unit test using TurbineConfig, or use mock
objects. It may be that a test is not necessary, especially if someone
who is using turbine 2 and can confirm the changes is willing to do the
commit.
> About the extra functionality that can be put in there, is that an
> option? or how do other people feel about that ?
> Also I couldn't find the cvsparser in t3. Is it there and couldn't I
> find it or isn't it there and is there need for such a service (or
> whatever name it was given..).
> Any ideas? (I can completely replace the cvsparser to behave more like a
> CSV database, if that is needed..)
It lives in fulcrum these days:
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-turbine-fulcrum/src/util/org/apache/fulcrum/util/parser/
> >
> > I guess I'm +1 -- willing to change my configurations and do the work
> > (or accept a patch =).
>
> I already assigned the issue to me ;) So I will have a go when it is
> clear what is really needed.
Okay, lets see what other people think.
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Re: Does anybody care about bugzilla issues??
Posted by Martin van den Bemt <ml...@mvdb.net>.
Thanx for the reply ;)) See inline..
On Fri, 2002-05-24 at 13:18, James Taylor wrote:
> > - You are in the wrong bug database (note : I cannot reach the scarab
> > one btw)
>
> Yep!
On the wrong bug database or that I cannot reach the scarab one ;)
If it is the wrong database, all current issues in bugzilla should be
closed and say that is moved to another bug database. (I am willing to
do that btw, if I can reach the scarab one)
>
> > - I don't care about t2
>
> That's me! Although there are other people who do, but we are all very
> busy. A unit test always helps to make us feel more comfortable
> committing a patch.
I have a test case (for me almost the only way to get things tested in
the first place), but you cannot use it as a testcase in turbine, since
I adjusted the turbine sources, to get it fixed independetly of turbine
in the first place ;). (turbine 2 is lacking a lot of tests anyway..)
Any tips on getting this running in a test without stripping out calls
to the eg TurbinResources (besides from running Turbine itself..)
About the extra functionality that can be put in there, is that an
option? or how do other people feel about that ?
Also I couldn't find the cvsparser in t3. Is it there and couldn't I
find it or isn't it there and is there need for such a service (or
whatever name it was given..).
Any ideas? (I can completely replace the cvsparser to behave more like a
CSV database, if that is needed..)
>
> Also, looks like the *ValueParser patches don't follow the coding
> standard =]
I will check where my tabs were left in or left out or I completely
forgot about coding standards.. At least I tried to do conform..;)
>
> > - I don't care about t2 bugs
> > - I don't care about bugs at all
> > - I don't know the answer to the questions.
> > - I don't know the intended behaviour of the bugs.
> > - I don't want patches by people you don't know.
> > - I really don't have time for bugs right now
> > - Someone else is handling all of these things (who??)
>
> Regarding the configuration thing, ',' is the only character that needs
> to be escaped. Yes that makes things work differently from Properties
> (why they chose to allow escaping those characters I do not understand).
> I'm amicable toward changes to PropertyConfiguration to make it behave
> more like Properties, but the risk is breaking existing configs which
> have \:, \=, \# in them and expect those to be read literally (probably
> unlikely). How do other feel?
The java.util.Properties is almost a text file parser, according to the
javadocs anyway. So maybe just specifying in the javadoc that the
properties turbine uses is not the same as the Properties will do..
>
> I guess I'm +1 -- willing to change my configurations and do the work
> (or accept a patch =).
I already assigned the issue to me ;) So I will have a go when it is
clear what is really needed.
Mvgr,
Martin van den Bemt
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Re: Does anybody care about bugzilla issues??
Posted by James Taylor <jt...@4lane.com>.
> - You are in the wrong bug database (note : I cannot reach the scarab
> one btw)
Yep!
> - I don't care about t2
That's me! Although there are other people who do, but we are all very
busy. A unit test always helps to make us feel more comfortable
committing a patch.
Also, looks like the *ValueParser patches don't follow the coding
standard =]
> - I don't care about t2 bugs
> - I don't care about bugs at all
> - I don't know the answer to the questions.
> - I don't know the intended behaviour of the bugs.
> - I don't want patches by people you don't know.
> - I really don't have time for bugs right now
> - Someone else is handling all of these things (who??)
Regarding the configuration thing, ',' is the only character that needs
to be escaped. Yes that makes things work differently from Properties
(why they chose to allow escaping those characters I do not understand).
I'm amicable toward changes to PropertyConfiguration to make it behave
more like Properties, but the risk is breaking existing configs which
have \:, \=, \# in them and expect those to be read literally (probably
unlikely). How do other feel?
I guess I'm +1 -- willing to change my configurations and do the work
(or accept a patch =).
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