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Posted to dev@hivemind.apache.org by Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com> on 2004/09/11 15:03:06 UTC
[RESULT] Release HiveMind 1.0-rc-2
Howard Lewis Ship: +1 (binding)
Harish Krishnaswamy: +1 (binding)
Knut Wannheden: +1 (binding)
Erik Hatcher: +1 (binding)
James Carman: +1 (no response)
I'll get started on the label and the release!
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From: Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 10:52:03 -0400
Subject: [VOTE] Release HiveMind 1.0-rc-2
To: hivemind-dev@jakarta.apache.org
The system works ... we've found and fixed a few bugs in rc-1.
Here's the fixes:
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVEMIND-44
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVEMIND-47
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVEMIND-48
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVEMIND-49
I'm pretty sure we've nailed the mutithreading and class loading bugs
at this point. It's now time to get exposure on those fixes in the
form of rc-2.
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Re: [RESULT] Release HiveMind 1.0-rc-2
Posted by Knut Wannheden <kn...@gmail.com>.
+1 to deprecation. IMO the change isn't really that big. At least it
isn't very disruptive in user code. Even less so if we add the
addModuleDescriptor() you propose, which I think would be reasonable.
--knut
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 09:40:43 -0400, James Carman
<ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> I understand that. But, what if users DO use it? What happens when we
> release 1.1 with these features in there that eliminate the processModule()
> methods in RegistryBuilder and replace them with another method like
> addModuleDescriptor()? I guess one solution would be to "cripple"
> RegistryBuilder by ONLY allowing constructDefaultRegistry(). Then, in 1.1,
> we would allow it to be more robust. Another solution would be to deprecate
> the other stuff in the 1.0 release telling users that there will be a
> different mechanism for customizing the registry in 1.1 (use at your own
> discretion). Maybe the deprecation would be better, since there are
> actually users out there already using it.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Howard Lewis Ship [mailto:hlship@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 9:30 AM
> To: hivemind-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [RESULT] Release HiveMind 1.0-rc-2
>
> I'm not sure how the internal restructuring will affect users, even if
> it widely affects HiveMind? Typical users will use HiveMindFilter or
> RegistryBuilder.getDefaultRegistry() and those will likely not change.
> The extra options will only be visible to advanced users.
>
> I really don't want to hold up 1.0!
>
> On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 09:06:47 -0400, James Carman
> <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> > Are we going to address these new ideas before 1.0 release? If we really
> do
> > re-structure the RegistryBuilder, that's quite a dramatic change to the
> core
> > of HiveMind and should probably be done before an official release of 1.0.
> > I think it's a nice clean-up/refactoring and will make things more
> > understandable or intuitive (and easier to describe in an article).
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Howard Lewis Ship [mailto:hlship@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 9:03 AM
> > To: hivemind-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> > Subject: [RESULT] Release HiveMind 1.0-rc-2
> >
> > Howard Lewis Ship: +1 (binding)
> > Harish Krishnaswamy: +1 (binding)
> > Knut Wannheden: +1 (binding)
> > Erik Hatcher: +1 (binding)
> > James Carman: +1 (no response)
> >
> > I'll get started on the label and the release!
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>
> > Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 10:52:03 -0400
> > Subject: [VOTE] Release HiveMind 1.0-rc-2
> > To: hivemind-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> >
> > The system works ... we've found and fixed a few bugs in rc-1.
> >
> > Here's the fixes:
> >
> > http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVEMIND-44
> > http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVEMIND-47
> > http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVEMIND-48
> > http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVEMIND-49
> >
> > I'm pretty sure we've nailed the mutithreading and class loading bugs
> > at this point. It's now time to get exposure on those fixes in the
> > form of rc-2.
> >
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> >
> >
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
> Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant
> Creator, Jakarta Tapestry
> Creator, Jakarta HiveMind
> http://howardlewisship.com
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RE: [RESULT] Release HiveMind 1.0-rc-2
Posted by James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>.
I understand that. But, what if users DO use it? What happens when we
release 1.1 with these features in there that eliminate the processModule()
methods in RegistryBuilder and replace them with another method like
addModuleDescriptor()? I guess one solution would be to "cripple"
RegistryBuilder by ONLY allowing constructDefaultRegistry(). Then, in 1.1,
we would allow it to be more robust. Another solution would be to deprecate
the other stuff in the 1.0 release telling users that there will be a
different mechanism for customizing the registry in 1.1 (use at your own
discretion). Maybe the deprecation would be better, since there are
actually users out there already using it.
-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Lewis Ship [mailto:hlship@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 9:30 AM
To: hivemind-dev@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Re: [RESULT] Release HiveMind 1.0-rc-2
I'm not sure how the internal restructuring will affect users, even if
it widely affects HiveMind? Typical users will use HiveMindFilter or
RegistryBuilder.getDefaultRegistry() and those will likely not change.
The extra options will only be visible to advanced users.
I really don't want to hold up 1.0!
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 09:06:47 -0400, James Carman
<ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> Are we going to address these new ideas before 1.0 release? If we really
do
> re-structure the RegistryBuilder, that's quite a dramatic change to the
core
> of HiveMind and should probably be done before an official release of 1.0.
> I think it's a nice clean-up/refactoring and will make things more
> understandable or intuitive (and easier to describe in an article).
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Howard Lewis Ship [mailto:hlship@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 9:03 AM
> To: hivemind-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: [RESULT] Release HiveMind 1.0-rc-2
>
> Howard Lewis Ship: +1 (binding)
> Harish Krishnaswamy: +1 (binding)
> Knut Wannheden: +1 (binding)
> Erik Hatcher: +1 (binding)
> James Carman: +1 (no response)
>
> I'll get started on the label and the release!
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 10:52:03 -0400
> Subject: [VOTE] Release HiveMind 1.0-rc-2
> To: hivemind-dev@jakarta.apache.org
>
> The system works ... we've found and fixed a few bugs in rc-1.
>
> Here's the fixes:
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVEMIND-44
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVEMIND-47
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVEMIND-48
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVEMIND-49
>
> I'm pretty sure we've nailed the mutithreading and class loading bugs
> at this point. It's now time to get exposure on those fixes in the
> form of rc-2.
>
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>
>
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant
Creator, Jakarta Tapestry
Creator, Jakarta HiveMind
http://howardlewisship.com
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Re: [RESULT] Release HiveMind 1.0-rc-2
Posted by Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>.
I'm not sure how the internal restructuring will affect users, even if
it widely affects HiveMind? Typical users will use HiveMindFilter or
RegistryBuilder.getDefaultRegistry() and those will likely not change.
The extra options will only be visible to advanced users.
I really don't want to hold up 1.0!
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 09:06:47 -0400, James Carman
<ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> Are we going to address these new ideas before 1.0 release? If we really do
> re-structure the RegistryBuilder, that's quite a dramatic change to the core
> of HiveMind and should probably be done before an official release of 1.0.
> I think it's a nice clean-up/refactoring and will make things more
> understandable or intuitive (and easier to describe in an article).
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Howard Lewis Ship [mailto:hlship@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 9:03 AM
> To: hivemind-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: [RESULT] Release HiveMind 1.0-rc-2
>
> Howard Lewis Ship: +1 (binding)
> Harish Krishnaswamy: +1 (binding)
> Knut Wannheden: +1 (binding)
> Erik Hatcher: +1 (binding)
> James Carman: +1 (no response)
>
> I'll get started on the label and the release!
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 10:52:03 -0400
> Subject: [VOTE] Release HiveMind 1.0-rc-2
> To: hivemind-dev@jakarta.apache.org
>
> The system works ... we've found and fixed a few bugs in rc-1.
>
> Here's the fixes:
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVEMIND-44
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVEMIND-47
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVEMIND-48
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVEMIND-49
>
> I'm pretty sure we've nailed the mutithreading and class loading bugs
> at this point. It's now time to get exposure on those fixes in the
> form of rc-2.
>
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>
>
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant
Creator, Jakarta Tapestry
Creator, Jakarta HiveMind
http://howardlewisship.com
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RE: [RESULT] Release HiveMind 1.0-rc-2
Posted by James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>.
Are we going to address these new ideas before 1.0 release? If we really do
re-structure the RegistryBuilder, that's quite a dramatic change to the core
of HiveMind and should probably be done before an official release of 1.0.
I think it's a nice clean-up/refactoring and will make things more
understandable or intuitive (and easier to describe in an article).
-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Lewis Ship [mailto:hlship@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 9:03 AM
To: hivemind-dev@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: [RESULT] Release HiveMind 1.0-rc-2
Howard Lewis Ship: +1 (binding)
Harish Krishnaswamy: +1 (binding)
Knut Wannheden: +1 (binding)
Erik Hatcher: +1 (binding)
James Carman: +1 (no response)
I'll get started on the label and the release!
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 10:52:03 -0400
Subject: [VOTE] Release HiveMind 1.0-rc-2
To: hivemind-dev@jakarta.apache.org
The system works ... we've found and fixed a few bugs in rc-1.
Here's the fixes:
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVEMIND-44
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVEMIND-47
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVEMIND-48
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVEMIND-49
I'm pretty sure we've nailed the mutithreading and class loading bugs
at this point. It's now time to get exposure on those fixes in the
form of rc-2.
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