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Posted to dev@sis.apache.org by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> on 2012/01/08 18:21:30 UTC
[DISCUSS] SIS: Need to get back on track (was Fwd: Actively
retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011))
Guys,
The Incubator is talking about retiring projects. It has been suggested that
SIS is on that list. That concerns me.
I'm going to do my best to step it up in Q1. We'll see if I (and hopefully many
others) can get this podling back on track. I care deeply about the issues here.
Here's my concrete set of things to work on over the next 3 months:
1. List of issues I'm going to try to roll for in 0.2: http://s.apache.org/sn
2. Get a baked in demo with Apache OODT that:
- dumps HDF/NetCDF data out of CAS Product Server GeoRSS into SIS
- loads it into SIS QTree index
- makes it searchable via bounding box and point/radius
- write wiki page (on our new SIS wiki that I'm going to remind people exists
in my next email)
Patches, help, discussion welcome.
Speaking of which if there are things people are interested in, please have discussions
here on list and let's show others that there are more than just a few people that care
about a Geospatial Apache licensed toolkit here at the ASF.
Cheers,
Chris
Begin forwarded message:
> From: "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> Date: January 8, 2012 9:05:33 AM PST
> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)
> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
>
> Hey Jukka,
>
> On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:46 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>
>>> 2010-02-21 SIS
>>
>> S: Last activity in November
>> (http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-sis-dev/201111.mbox/browser)
>> R: Retire unless activity picks up in Q1.
>
> As a SIS mentor I'd say this is fair, but my personal gut tells me it would be nice to give
> SIS until end of Q2/Q3. Also I'll echo my call again for contributors (mentors, geospatial
> enthusiasts, others) and for folks that are interested in having an ALv2 licensed
> geospatial toolkit to come on over to sis-dev@ or sis-user@ and contribute.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Senior Computer Scientist
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
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>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Re: [DISCUSS] SIS: Need to get back on track (was Fwd: Actively
retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011))
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Hey Adam,
On Jan 8, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Adam Estrada wrote:
> Mattmann,
>
> I think a bare bones demo would be extremely valuable. I can get the how-to docs up to snuff once there is a good baseline core in trunk.
See here:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/sis/trunk/README.txt
There are instructions in there on how to get SIS up and running and a demo. You interested in helping get that on the wiki?
Also, our website sucks. Sorry to say, but it just does. We need an overhaul there but I have
0 graphics skillz. Any help there would be most welcome.
> What this project really needs are some definite goals and milestones that we can go by.
I laid out my vision of them in: http://s.apache.org/sn so if you've got a different or similar vision,
I'm all ears. I think it's consistent with what I've heard from you on the list so I think we're in
unison.
> What you suggested below is great but it needs to be laid out in the official wiki, right? I assume the index of choice is going to be based on Lucene.
That would be one of our targets, but also:
1. OODT File Manager (catalog)
2. PostGIS
3. HBase
4. Gora?
5. Elastic Search
I bought HBase: the Definitive Guide, so that's on my current reading list, and I can personally take care of #1
and possibly #4 but I don't know enough about #2 or #5 (even though I did buy PostGIS in Action and plan on
re-reading it at some point b/c it was a while back when I read the ebook).
> There are options to this and @tlpinney has laid out the foundation for a really fast, low-level index that can trump the inverted index. ElasticSearch also has some promising spatial capabilities. See below.
It would be great if @tlpinney could join up here on sis-dev@ (or if he's already here great) and chime in
on this.
>
> https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/1486
Very cool. A module for SIS for elastic search would go a long way I think.
Cheers,
Chris
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
>
>> Guys,
>>
>> The Incubator is talking about retiring projects. It has been suggested that
>> SIS is on that list. That concerns me.
>>
>> I'm going to do my best to step it up in Q1. We'll see if I (and hopefully many
>> others) can get this podling back on track. I care deeply about the issues here.
>>
>> Here's my concrete set of things to work on over the next 3 months:
>>
>> 1. List of issues I'm going to try to roll for in 0.2: http://s.apache.org/sn
>> 2. Get a baked in demo with Apache OODT that:
>> - dumps HDF/NetCDF data out of CAS Product Server GeoRSS into SIS
>> - loads it into SIS QTree index
>> - makes it searchable via bounding box and point/radius
>> - write wiki page (on our new SIS wiki that I'm going to remind people exists
>> in my next email)
>>
>> Patches, help, discussion welcome.
>>
>> Speaking of which if there are things people are interested in, please have discussions
>> here on list and let's show others that there are more than just a few people that care
>> about a Geospatial Apache licensed toolkit here at the ASF.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> Date: January 8, 2012 9:05:33 AM PST
>>> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)
>>> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
>>>
>>> Hey Jukka,
>>>
>>> On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:46 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>>>
>>>>> 2010-02-21 SIS
>>>>
>>>> S: Last activity in November
>>>> (http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-sis-dev/201111.mbox/browser)
>>>> R: Retire unless activity picks up in Q1.
>>>
>>> As a SIS mentor I'd say this is fair, but my personal gut tells me it would be nice to give
>>> SIS until end of Q2/Q3. Also I'll echo my call again for contributors (mentors, geospatial
>>> enthusiasts, others) and for folks that are interested in having an ALv2 licensed
>>> geospatial toolkit to come on over to sis-dev@ or sis-user@ and contribute.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>>>
>>
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Re: [DISCUSS] SIS: Need to get back on track (was Fwd: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011))
Posted by Adam Estrada <es...@gmail.com>.
Mattmann,
I think a bare bones demo would be extremely valuable. I can get the how-to docs up to snuff once there is a good baseline core in trunk. What this project really needs are some definite goals and milestones that we can go by. What you suggested below is great but it needs to be laid out in the official wiki, right? I assume the index of choice is going to be based on Lucene. There are options to this and @tlpinney has laid out the foundation for a really fast, low-level index that can trump the inverted index. ElasticSearch also has some promising spatial capabilities. See below.
https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/1486
Adam
On Jan 8, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
> Guys,
>
> The Incubator is talking about retiring projects. It has been suggested that
> SIS is on that list. That concerns me.
>
> I'm going to do my best to step it up in Q1. We'll see if I (and hopefully many
> others) can get this podling back on track. I care deeply about the issues here.
>
> Here's my concrete set of things to work on over the next 3 months:
>
> 1. List of issues I'm going to try to roll for in 0.2: http://s.apache.org/sn
> 2. Get a baked in demo with Apache OODT that:
> - dumps HDF/NetCDF data out of CAS Product Server GeoRSS into SIS
> - loads it into SIS QTree index
> - makes it searchable via bounding box and point/radius
> - write wiki page (on our new SIS wiki that I'm going to remind people exists
> in my next email)
>
> Patches, help, discussion welcome.
>
> Speaking of which if there are things people are interested in, please have discussions
> here on list and let's show others that there are more than just a few people that care
> about a Geospatial Apache licensed toolkit here at the ASF.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> Date: January 8, 2012 9:05:33 AM PST
>> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)
>> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
>>
>> Hey Jukka,
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:46 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>>
>>>> 2010-02-21 SIS
>>>
>>> S: Last activity in November
>>> (http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-sis-dev/201111.mbox/browser)
>>> R: Retire unless activity picks up in Q1.
>>
>> As a SIS mentor I'd say this is fair, but my personal gut tells me it would be nice to give
>> SIS until end of Q2/Q3. Also I'll echo my call again for contributors (mentors, geospatial
>> enthusiasts, others) and for folks that are interested in having an ALv2 licensed
>> geospatial toolkit to come on over to sis-dev@ or sis-user@ and contribute.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>>
>
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Senior Computer Scientist
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>