Profiling Questions

[Brock Bland <BB...@serena.com>]

I have a couple of use cases that I was hoping this group could help me
with.  

1. I have a system with several roles defined and obviously users
assigned to those roles.  When a user, say Bob who is in role1, logs in
I need to find pages from paths in the following order.
pages/_user/Bob
pages/_role/role1
pages

Is there a profiling rule that does this already?  If not what criteria
do I need to add to a new one to get it to work?

2. Say Bob is looking at a page that came from pages/_role/role1.  He
wants to change it, but the change should be made on a user basis so a
copy is made in pages/_user/Bob and Bob edits his personal copy.

Is this possible, and if so how do I set it up?

Also, when a new user is created and assigned to a role and given a
profiling rule a user directory is created for him.  What determines
what all goes in this directory?  Is it just a default-page.psml file
and a folder.metadata file to restrict access to this user?

I've read the design doc on this stuff but if it's in there I guess it's
just not sinking in.  If anyone can provide a little insight for me I'd
greatly appreciate.


Brock Bland

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Re: Profiling Questions

[Randy Watler <wa...@wispertel.net>]

On Thu, 2005-12-08 at 14:39 +0800, James Liao wrote:
> On 12/8/05, Randy Watler <wa...@wispertel.net> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 2005-12-07 at 13:04 -0800, Brock Bland wrote:
> > > I have a couple of use cases that I was hoping this group could help me
> > > with.
> > >
> > > 1. I have a system with several roles defined and obviously users
> > > assigned to those roles.  When a user, say Bob who is in role1, logs in
> > > I need to find pages from paths in the following order.
> > > pages/_user/Bob
> > > pages/_role/role1
> > > pages
> > >
> > > Is there a profiling rule that does this already?  If not what criteria
> > > do I need to add to a new one to get it to work?
> >
> > You can either use two profiling rules... such as 'j2' and
> > 'roll_fallback', or you can define a custom profiling rule. Take a look
> > in the /etc/sql/populate-db-default.sql for ideas.
> >
> > >
> > > 2. Say Bob is looking at a page that came from pages/_role/role1.  He
> > > wants to change it, but the change should be made on a user basis so a
> > > copy is made in pages/_user/Bob and Bob edits his personal copy.
> > >
> > > Is this possible, and if so how do I set it up?
> >
> > You have the right idea. However, AFAIK there is no automated copy from
> > the /_role/role1 to /_user/Bob upon customization. There is plenty of
> > work going on related to customization and site management... so please
> > submit a JIRA request if this feature is important enough to you.
> 
> 
> When Bob is looking at his role's page, it should not have a edit option,
> right?

It depends on how the constraints/permissions are configured. Edit
permissions could easily be granted to Bob. I suppose that is the point
though... Brock would want the page copied if he did not have edit
permissions.
 
> 
> >
> > > Also, when a new user is created and assigned to a role and given a
> > > profiling rule a user directory is created for him.  What determines
> > > what all goes in this directory?  Is it just a default-page.psml file
> > > and a folder.metadata file to restrict access to this user?
> >
> > It is copied from a special user home directory for the user 'template'.
> > You can customize the template, (/_user/template), as needed. Ownership
> > is configured for the new user.
> >
> > >
> > > I've read the design doc on this stuff but if it's in there I guess it's
> > > just not sinking in.  If anyone can provide a little insight for me I'd
> > > greatly appreciate.
> > >
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Randy
> >
> > >
> > > Brock Bland
> > >
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Re: Profiling Questions

[James Liao <ji...@gmail.com>]

On 12/8/05, Randy Watler <wa...@wispertel.net> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2005-12-07 at 13:04 -0800, Brock Bland wrote:
> > I have a couple of use cases that I was hoping this group could help me
> > with.
> >
> > 1. I have a system with several roles defined and obviously users
> > assigned to those roles.  When a user, say Bob who is in role1, logs in
> > I need to find pages from paths in the following order.
> > pages/_user/Bob
> > pages/_role/role1
> > pages
> >
> > Is there a profiling rule that does this already?  If not what criteria
> > do I need to add to a new one to get it to work?
>
> You can either use two profiling rules... such as 'j2' and
> 'roll_fallback', or you can define a custom profiling rule. Take a look
> in the /etc/sql/populate-db-default.sql for ideas.
>
> >
> > 2. Say Bob is looking at a page that came from pages/_role/role1.  He
> > wants to change it, but the change should be made on a user basis so a
> > copy is made in pages/_user/Bob and Bob edits his personal copy.
> >
> > Is this possible, and if so how do I set it up?
>
> You have the right idea. However, AFAIK there is no automated copy from
> the /_role/role1 to /_user/Bob upon customization. There is plenty of
> work going on related to customization and site management... so please
> submit a JIRA request if this feature is important enough to you.


When Bob is looking at his role's page, it should not have a edit option,
right?

>
> > Also, when a new user is created and assigned to a role and given a
> > profiling rule a user directory is created for him.  What determines
> > what all goes in this directory?  Is it just a default-page.psml file
> > and a folder.metadata file to restrict access to this user?
>
> It is copied from a special user home directory for the user 'template'.
> You can customize the template, (/_user/template), as needed. Ownership
> is configured for the new user.
>
> >
> > I've read the design doc on this stuff but if it's in there I guess it's
> > just not sinking in.  If anyone can provide a little insight for me I'd
> > greatly appreciate.
> >
>
> HTH,
>
> Randy
>
> >
> > Brock Bland
> >
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Re: Profiling Questions

[Randy Watler <wa...@wispertel.net>]

On Wed, 2005-12-07 at 13:04 -0800, Brock Bland wrote:
> I have a couple of use cases that I was hoping this group could help me
> with.  
> 
> 1. I have a system with several roles defined and obviously users
> assigned to those roles.  When a user, say Bob who is in role1, logs in
> I need to find pages from paths in the following order.
> pages/_user/Bob
> pages/_role/role1
> pages
> 
> Is there a profiling rule that does this already?  If not what criteria
> do I need to add to a new one to get it to work?

You can either use two profiling rules... such as 'j2' and
'roll_fallback', or you can define a custom profiling rule. Take a look
in the /etc/sql/populate-db-default.sql for ideas.

> 
> 2. Say Bob is looking at a page that came from pages/_role/role1.  He
> wants to change it, but the change should be made on a user basis so a
> copy is made in pages/_user/Bob and Bob edits his personal copy.
> 
> Is this possible, and if so how do I set it up?

You have the right idea. However, AFAIK there is no automated copy from
the /_role/role1 to /_user/Bob upon customization. There is plenty of
work going on related to customization and site management... so please
submit a JIRA request if this feature is important enough to you.
 
> 
> Also, when a new user is created and assigned to a role and given a
> profiling rule a user directory is created for him.  What determines
> what all goes in this directory?  Is it just a default-page.psml file
> and a folder.metadata file to restrict access to this user?

It is copied from a special user home directory for the user 'template'.
You can customize the template, (/_user/template), as needed. Ownership
is configured for the new user.

> 
> I've read the design doc on this stuff but if it's in there I guess it's
> just not sinking in.  If anyone can provide a little insight for me I'd
> greatly appreciate.
> 

HTH,

Randy

> 
> Brock Bland
> 
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