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[GRAPHICS] Help with SVG versions of AOO website logo and Forum Header

Hi -

It would be great if we had a transparent background and svg versions of our website logos:

We have an svg version of the orb here: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/svg/orb.svg
I can’t find an svg of the full website logo. Does anyone know of one?
An svg should convert any fonts to shapes

(1) The Forum header - https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/logo_forum.png

The same graphic on every forum right now. Size is 450px x 77px. Extra credit if someone can create versions for: ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, NL, and PL. VI is read-only and ZH is non-functional and not currently available.

(2) The website logo - https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png

The size is 268px x 100px

Best,
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Re: [GRAPHICS] Help with SVG versions of AOO website logo and Forum Header

Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>.

> On May 7, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Pedro Lino <pe...@mailbox.org.INVALID> wrote:
> 
> Hi again
> 
> I have created an SVG for the Forums/Fora (don't know where I should upload it to)

You can upload it to imgur.com - I’ll download, test, and store in the forums.

I think we should have a logo/graphics place in OpenOffice.apache.org which comes from https://github.com/apache./openoffice-project/

> The word Forum is editable (in Ubuntu Condensed 26pt)
> I have created Forum (EN, FR, IT and PL), Foren (DE) and Foro (ES)

BTW - Someone else runs the DE forum and it’s outside of Apache.
> 
> https://imgur.com/a/FDqydFu

Very cool!

Thanks,
Dave

> 
> If any of the other language users sends the word / characters I can update it or simply send the SVG
> 
> Best,
> Pedro
> 
>> On 05/07/2022 7:38 PM Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> It would be great if we had a transparent background and svg versions of our website logos:
>> 
>> We have an svg version of the orb here: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/svg/orb.svg
>> I can’t find an svg of the full website logo. Does anyone know of one?
>> An svg should convert any fonts to shapes
>> 
>> (1) The Forum header - https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/logo_forum.png
>> 
>> The same graphic on every forum right now. Size is 450px x 77px. Extra credit if someone can create versions for: ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, NL, and PL. VI is read-only and ZH is non-functional and not currently available.
>> 
>> (2) The website logo - https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png
>> 
>> The size is 268px x 100px
>> 
>> Best,
>> Dave
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Re: [GRAPHICS] Help with SVG versions of AOO website logo and Forum Header

Posted by Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de>.
Hi Pedro,

Am 10.05.22 um 10:48 schrieb Pedro Lino:
> Hi Matthias
>
>> On 05/09/2022 6:39 PM Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>>
>>  
>> Hi Pedro,
>>
>> That looks really good!
> I think so too. But it is not my merit. I just converted the current design to SVGs :)
> (and switched TM to (R) ) ;)

It also looks good from a technical point of view... ;-)

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Best,
> Pedro
>
>> Am 08.05.22 um 00:30 schrieb Pedro Lino:
>>> Hi again
>>>
>>> I have created an SVG for the Forums/Fora (don't know where I should upload it to)
>>> The word Forum is editable (in Ubuntu Condensed 26pt)
>>> I have created Forum (EN, FR, IT and PL), Foren (DE) and Foro (ES)
>>>
>>> https://imgur.com/a/FDqydFu
>>>
>>> If any of the other language users sends the word / characters I can update it or simply send the SVG
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Pedro
>>>
>>>> On 05/07/2022 7:38 PM Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>> Hi -
>>>>
>>>> It would be great if we had a transparent background and svg versions of our website logos:
>>>>
>>>> We have an svg version of the orb here: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/svg/orb.svg
>>>> I can’t find an svg of the full website logo. Does anyone know of one?
>>>> An svg should convert any fonts to shapes
>>>>
>>>> (1) The Forum header - https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/logo_forum.png
>>>>
>>>> The same graphic on every forum right now. Size is 450px x 77px. Extra credit if someone can create versions for: ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, NL, and PL. VI is read-only and ZH is non-functional and not currently available.
>>>>
>>>> (2) The website logo - https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png
>>>>
>>>> The size is 268px x 100px
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Dave
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Re: [GRAPHICS] Help with SVG versions of AOO website logo and Forum Header

Posted by Pedro Lino <pe...@mailbox.org.INVALID>.
Hi Matthias

> On 05/09/2022 6:39 PM Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de> wrote:
> 
>  
> Hi Pedro,
> 
> That looks really good!

I think so too. But it is not my merit. I just converted the current design to SVGs :)
(and switched TM to (R) ) ;)

Best,
Pedro

> Am 08.05.22 um 00:30 schrieb Pedro Lino:
> > Hi again
> >
> > I have created an SVG for the Forums/Fora (don't know where I should upload it to)
> > The word Forum is editable (in Ubuntu Condensed 26pt)
> > I have created Forum (EN, FR, IT and PL), Foren (DE) and Foro (ES)
> >
> > https://imgur.com/a/FDqydFu
> >
> > If any of the other language users sends the word / characters I can update it or simply send the SVG
> >
> > Best,
> > Pedro
> >
> >> On 05/07/2022 7:38 PM Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>  
> >> Hi -
> >>
> >> It would be great if we had a transparent background and svg versions of our website logos:
> >>
> >> We have an svg version of the orb here: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/svg/orb.svg
> >> I can’t find an svg of the full website logo. Does anyone know of one?
> >> An svg should convert any fonts to shapes
> >>
> >> (1) The Forum header - https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/logo_forum.png
> >>
> >> The same graphic on every forum right now. Size is 450px x 77px. Extra credit if someone can create versions for: ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, NL, and PL. VI is read-only and ZH is non-functional and not currently available.
> >>
> >> (2) The website logo - https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png
> >>
> >> The size is 268px x 100px
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Dave
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Re: [GRAPHICS] Help with SVG versions of AOO website logo and Forum Header

Posted by Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de>.
Hi Pedro,

That looks really good!

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 08.05.22 um 00:30 schrieb Pedro Lino:
> Hi again
>
> I have created an SVG for the Forums/Fora (don't know where I should upload it to)
> The word Forum is editable (in Ubuntu Condensed 26pt)
> I have created Forum (EN, FR, IT and PL), Foren (DE) and Foro (ES)
>
> https://imgur.com/a/FDqydFu
>
> If any of the other language users sends the word / characters I can update it or simply send the SVG
>
> Best,
> Pedro
>
>> On 05/07/2022 7:38 PM Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>  
>> Hi -
>>
>> It would be great if we had a transparent background and svg versions of our website logos:
>>
>> We have an svg version of the orb here: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/svg/orb.svg
>> I can’t find an svg of the full website logo. Does anyone know of one?
>> An svg should convert any fonts to shapes
>>
>> (1) The Forum header - https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/logo_forum.png
>>
>> The same graphic on every forum right now. Size is 450px x 77px. Extra credit if someone can create versions for: ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, NL, and PL. VI is read-only and ZH is non-functional and not currently available.
>>
>> (2) The website logo - https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png
>>
>> The size is 268px x 100px
>>
>> Best,
>> Dave
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Re: [GRAPHICS] Help with SVG versions of AOO website logo and Forum Header

Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>.
Hi Pedro,

The forum now uses responsive css and when narrow the header is suppressed.

Regards,
Dave

> On May 10, 2022, at 1:46 AM, Pedro Lino <pe...@mailbox.org.INVALID> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave
> 
> I will upload or send to you by email the SVG(s) later today.
> 
> Can you use the SVG directly on the page? Wouldn't that be preferable instead of PNGs?
> 
> Separate issue:
> I opened the Spanish forum on Firefox running on Linux and it looks good. However opening the same page on Android is missing some elements. I used Firefox and Vivaldi and in both the top bar is missing as well as the "Enlaces rápidos" text
> I just switched to the EN page and the same problems occur on my Android 7.1.2 mobile
> 
> Best,
> Pedro
> 
>> On 05/10/2022 2:03 AM Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Pedro,
>> 
>> You can see the new logo (you may have to clear cache) at https://forum.openoffice.org/es/forum/ along with other forum sites.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Pedro Lino <pe...@mailbox.org.INVALID> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi again
>>> 
>>> I have created an SVG for the Forums/Fora (don't know where I should upload it to)
>>> The word Forum is editable (in Ubuntu Condensed 26pt)
>>> I have created Forum (EN, FR, IT and PL), Foren (DE) and Foro (ES)
>>> 
>>> https://imgur.com/a/FDqydFu
>>> 
>>> If any of the other language users sends the word / characters I can update it or simply send the SVG
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Pedro
>>> 
>>>> On 05/07/2022 7:38 PM Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi -
>>>> 
>>>> It would be great if we had a transparent background and svg versions of our website logos:
>>>> 
>>>> We have an svg version of the orb here: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/svg/orb.svg
>>>> I can’t find an svg of the full website logo. Does anyone know of one?
>>>> An svg should convert any fonts to shapes
>>>> 
>>>> (1) The Forum header - https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/logo_forum.png
>>>> 
>>>> The same graphic on every forum right now. Size is 450px x 77px. Extra credit if someone can create versions for: ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, NL, and PL. VI is read-only and ZH is non-functional and not currently available.
>>>> 
>>>> (2) The website logo - https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png
>>>> 
>>>> The size is 268px x 100px
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Dave
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Re: [GRAPHICS] Help with SVG versions of AOO website logo and Forum Header

Posted by Pedro Lino <pe...@mailbox.org.INVALID>.
Hi Dave

I will upload or send to you by email the SVG(s) later today.

Can you use the SVG directly on the page? Wouldn't that be preferable instead of PNGs?

Separate issue:
I opened the Spanish forum on Firefox running on Linux and it looks good. However opening the same page on Android is missing some elements. I used Firefox and Vivaldi and in both the top bar is missing as well as the "Enlaces rápidos" text
I just switched to the EN page and the same problems occur on my Android 7.1.2 mobile

Best,
Pedro

> On 05/10/2022 2:03 AM Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>  
> Hi Pedro,
> 
> You can see the new logo (you may have to clear cache) at https://forum.openoffice.org/es/forum/ along with other forum sites.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
> > On May 7, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Pedro Lino <pe...@mailbox.org.INVALID> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi again
> > 
> > I have created an SVG for the Forums/Fora (don't know where I should upload it to)
> > The word Forum is editable (in Ubuntu Condensed 26pt)
> > I have created Forum (EN, FR, IT and PL), Foren (DE) and Foro (ES)
> > 
> > https://imgur.com/a/FDqydFu
> > 
> > If any of the other language users sends the word / characters I can update it or simply send the SVG
> > 
> > Best,
> > Pedro
> > 
> >> On 05/07/2022 7:38 PM Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hi -
> >> 
> >> It would be great if we had a transparent background and svg versions of our website logos:
> >> 
> >> We have an svg version of the orb here: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/svg/orb.svg
> >> I can’t find an svg of the full website logo. Does anyone know of one?
> >> An svg should convert any fonts to shapes
> >> 
> >> (1) The Forum header - https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/logo_forum.png
> >> 
> >> The same graphic on every forum right now. Size is 450px x 77px. Extra credit if someone can create versions for: ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, NL, and PL. VI is read-only and ZH is non-functional and not currently available.
> >> 
> >> (2) The website logo - https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png
> >> 
> >> The size is 268px x 100px
> >> 
> >> Best,
> >> Dave
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Re: [GRAPHICS] Help with SVG versions of AOO website logo and Forum Header

Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>.
Hi Pedro,

You can see the new logo (you may have to clear cache) at https://forum.openoffice.org/es/forum/ along with other forum sites.

Regards,
Dave

> On May 7, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Pedro Lino <pe...@mailbox.org.INVALID> wrote:
> 
> Hi again
> 
> I have created an SVG for the Forums/Fora (don't know where I should upload it to)
> The word Forum is editable (in Ubuntu Condensed 26pt)
> I have created Forum (EN, FR, IT and PL), Foren (DE) and Foro (ES)
> 
> https://imgur.com/a/FDqydFu
> 
> If any of the other language users sends the word / characters I can update it or simply send the SVG
> 
> Best,
> Pedro
> 
>> On 05/07/2022 7:38 PM Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> It would be great if we had a transparent background and svg versions of our website logos:
>> 
>> We have an svg version of the orb here: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/svg/orb.svg
>> I can’t find an svg of the full website logo. Does anyone know of one?
>> An svg should convert any fonts to shapes
>> 
>> (1) The Forum header - https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/logo_forum.png
>> 
>> The same graphic on every forum right now. Size is 450px x 77px. Extra credit if someone can create versions for: ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, NL, and PL. VI is read-only and ZH is non-functional and not currently available.
>> 
>> (2) The website logo - https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png
>> 
>> The size is 268px x 100px
>> 
>> Best,
>> Dave
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Re: [GRAPHICS] Help with SVG versions of AOO website logo and Forum Header

Posted by Pedro Lino <pe...@mailbox.org.INVALID>.
Hi again

I have created an SVG for the Forums/Fora (don't know where I should upload it to)
The word Forum is editable (in Ubuntu Condensed 26pt)
I have created Forum (EN, FR, IT and PL), Foren (DE) and Foro (ES)

https://imgur.com/a/FDqydFu

If any of the other language users sends the word / characters I can update it or simply send the SVG

Best,
Pedro

> On 05/07/2022 7:38 PM Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>  
> Hi -
> 
> It would be great if we had a transparent background and svg versions of our website logos:
> 
> We have an svg version of the orb here: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/svg/orb.svg
> I can’t find an svg of the full website logo. Does anyone know of one?
> An svg should convert any fonts to shapes
> 
> (1) The Forum header - https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/logo_forum.png
> 
> The same graphic on every forum right now. Size is 450px x 77px. Extra credit if someone can create versions for: ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, NL, and PL. VI is read-only and ZH is non-functional and not currently available.
> 
> (2) The website logo - https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png
> 
> The size is 268px x 100px
> 
> Best,
> Dave
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Re: [GRAPHICS] Help with SVG versions of AOO website logo and Forum Header

Posted by Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de>.
Hi Dave:

Official versions of the Orb and our Logo can be found here:

https://apache.org/logos/#openoffice

"Original" is the SVG version.

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 07.05.22 um 20:38 schrieb Dave Fisher:
> Hi -
>
> It would be great if we had a transparent background and svg versions of our website logos:
>
> We have an svg version of the orb here: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/svg/orb.svg
> I can’t find an svg of the full website logo. Does anyone know of one?
> An svg should convert any fonts to shapes
>
> (1) The Forum header - https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/logo_forum.png
>
> The same graphic on every forum right now. Size is 450px x 77px. Extra credit if someone can create versions for: ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, NL, and PL. VI is read-only and ZH is non-functional and not currently available.
>
> (2) The website logo - https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png
>
> The size is 268px x 100px
>
> Best,
> Dave
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Re: [GRAPHICS] Help with SVG versions of AOO website logo and Forum Header

Posted by Dick Groskamp <di...@apache.org>.
Dave,

For Dutch (NL) you don't need a separate Forum Header. You can safely use the EN version.
We Dutch do so now and again "borrow" words from other languages. Forum is one of them.
NL uses the same word as in English
So  you can safely use the EN version then (Or copy and name it NL)

On 2022/05/07 18:38:53 Dave Fisher wrote:
> Hi -
[ ] 
> The same graphic on every forum right now. Size is 450px x 77px. Extra credit if someone can create versions for: ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, NL, and PL. VI is read-only and ZH is non-functional and not currently available.
> 
> (2) The website logo - https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png
> 
> The size is 268px x 100px
> 
> Best,
> Dave
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Re: [GRAPHICS] Help with SVG versions of AOO website logo and Forum Header

Posted by Pedro Lino <pe...@mailbox.org.INVALID>.
Here is the English Forum logo converted to transparent

https://i.imgur.com/xWxzjbP.png

Mathias has some of these in SVG and the other ones can be easily converted.

Regards,
Pedro

> On 05/07/2022 7:38 PM Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>  
> Hi -
> 
> It would be great if we had a transparent background and svg versions of our website logos:
> 
> We have an svg version of the orb here: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/svg/orb.svg
> I can’t find an svg of the full website logo. Does anyone know of one?
> An svg should convert any fonts to shapes
> 
> (1) The Forum header - https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/logo_forum.png
> 
> The same graphic on every forum right now. Size is 450px x 77px. Extra credit if someone can create versions for: ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, NL, and PL. VI is read-only and ZH is non-functional and not currently available.
> 
> (2) The website logo - https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png
> 
> The size is 268px x 100px
> 
> Best,
> Dave
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