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Posted to dev@shindig.apache.org by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> on 2008/02/23 05:57:32 UTC
Apache Shindig Board Reports ?
Just trying to help with the Apache way of doing things for new
podlings. I was looking for Board Reports from Shindig and could not
find it, are they available somewhere ? Also, looks like the Board
Report Schedule [1] is still not listing Shindig.
[1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule
[2] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html
--
Luciano Resende
Apache Tuscany Committer
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: Apache Shindig Board Reports ?
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
I'd suggest looking at latest reports from other podlings [1], and
starting with a draft report for Shindig either on a mail-thread or
wiki page, collaborate with the community, and then be ready to submit
it together with other podlings scheduled to report in March.
As for the contents, I think that the Mentors and community can easily
reach agreement on what should be reported, and I can certainly help
as well.
[1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2008
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Kevin Brown <et...@google.com> wrote:
> Is there anything I can help with here? Progress towards goals perhaps?
>
> As mentioned in the other thread, we've still got some work to do to make
> sure we're doing everything the apache way, and I want to make sure we do
> whatever is needed to make that happen.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > (a) I personally doubt that 1/3 figure. I'd like to see that backed up.
> >
> > However, Shindig has been lax in submitting board reports. Principal
> > responsibility for this lies with the mentors. I take responsibility for
> > my omission here. I believe Brian has said the same elsewhere. Between
> > us, we shall make a report gets to the board next month.
> >
> > Regards, Upayavira
> >
> > On Sat, 2008-02-23 at 09:49 -0800, Bruno Bowden wrote:
> > > It says that we should be reporting monthly for the first three months
> > and
> > > then quarterly after that. At the same time it also says that only 1/3
> > of
> > > incubator projects are actively following these guidelines.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Just trying to help with the Apache way of doing things for new
> > > > podlings. I was looking for Board Reports from Shindig and could not
> > > > find it, are they available somewhere ? Also, looks like the Board
> > > > Report Schedule [1] is still not listing Shindig.
> > > >
> > > > [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule
> > > > [2] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Luciano Resende
> > > > Apache Tuscany Committer
> > > > http://people.apache.org/~lresende<http://people.apache.org/%7Elresende><
> > http://people.apache.org/%7Elresende>
> > > > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> > > >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> ~Kevin
>
> If you received this email by mistake, please delete it, cancel your mail
> account, destroy your hard drive, silence any witnesses, and burn down the
> building that you're in.
>
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http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: Apache Shindig Board Reports ?
Posted by Kevin Brown <et...@google.com>.
Is there anything I can help with here? Progress towards goals perhaps?
As mentioned in the other thread, we've still got some work to do to make
sure we're doing everything the apache way, and I want to make sure we do
whatever is needed to make that happen.
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
> (a) I personally doubt that 1/3 figure. I'd like to see that backed up.
>
> However, Shindig has been lax in submitting board reports. Principal
> responsibility for this lies with the mentors. I take responsibility for
> my omission here. I believe Brian has said the same elsewhere. Between
> us, we shall make a report gets to the board next month.
>
> Regards, Upayavira
>
> On Sat, 2008-02-23 at 09:49 -0800, Bruno Bowden wrote:
> > It says that we should be reporting monthly for the first three months
> and
> > then quarterly after that. At the same time it also says that only 1/3
> of
> > incubator projects are actively following these guidelines.
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Just trying to help with the Apache way of doing things for new
> > > podlings. I was looking for Board Reports from Shindig and could not
> > > find it, are they available somewhere ? Also, looks like the Board
> > > Report Schedule [1] is still not listing Shindig.
> > >
> > > [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule
> > > [2] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html
> > >
> > > --
> > > Luciano Resende
> > > Apache Tuscany Committer
> > > http://people.apache.org/~lresende<http://people.apache.org/%7Elresende><
> http://people.apache.org/%7Elresende>
> > > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> > >
>
>
--
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Re: Apache Shindig Board Reports ?
Posted by Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>.
Appreciate the pointer. My understanding is that they're due by Wednesday
(3/12). I was going to kick off a thread on Monday to get input, but someone
else can get it started if they have ideas.
-Dan
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Good. BTW, it's time to submit them, have you guys done that ? Here is
> a thread about this [1]
>
> [1]
> http://www.mail-archive.com/general%40incubator.apache.org/msg16930.html
>
> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 11:51 -0800, Dan Peterson wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 03:09 -0800, Dan Peterson wrote:
> > > > > Hey folks,
> > > > >
> > > > > First of all, Luciano, thank you so much for bringing this to the
> > > > attention
> > > > > of shindig-dev. I don't think many (any?) of us were previously
> aware of
> > > > the
> > > > > Apache Board reports process, so apologies for the oversight. I
> hope the
> > > > > other thread I just sent ("State of the Shindig - February 2008")
> will
> > > > be a
> > > > > good start to a thread that can be summarized for the March
> report.
> > > > >
> > > > > To the conversation that Bruno and Upayavira are having, the
> website I
> > > > found
> > > > > ( http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule ) says:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Incubator must report to the ASF Board monthly. Each
> Incubator
> > > > project
> > > > > reports for the first three months of its incubation, and then
> > > > quarterly.
> > > > > Each month, roughly one third of the Incubator projects are
> reporting.
> > > > >
> > > > > Given that, since March will be our first formal report, I would
> propose
> > > > > that we submit a report for March, April, and May, which treats
> it like
> > > > our
> > > > > first three months, and then fall into the quarterly rhythm.
> Sound
> > > > > reasonable?
> > > >
> > > > Sounds perfect. Are you able to add us to that schedule?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Brian already added us to the queue for March.
> > >
> > > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule
> > >
> > > I'm not sure how we indicate we want to do March/April/May, and then
> > > quarterly on that page. Perhaps we don't even need to? We just submit
> the
> > > reports as per the schedule?
> >
> > 'tis good enough
> >
> > Upayavira
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> Apache Tuscany Committer
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende <http://people.apache.org/%7Elresende>
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>
Re: Apache Shindig Board Reports ?
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
Good. BTW, it's time to submit them, have you guys done that ? Here is
a thread about this [1]
[1] http://www.mail-archive.com/general%40incubator.apache.org/msg16930.html
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 11:51 -0800, Dan Peterson wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 03:09 -0800, Dan Peterson wrote:
> > > > Hey folks,
> > > >
> > > > First of all, Luciano, thank you so much for bringing this to the
> > > attention
> > > > of shindig-dev. I don't think many (any?) of us were previously aware of
> > > the
> > > > Apache Board reports process, so apologies for the oversight. I hope the
> > > > other thread I just sent ("State of the Shindig - February 2008") will
> > > be a
> > > > good start to a thread that can be summarized for the March report.
> > > >
> > > > To the conversation that Bruno and Upayavira are having, the website I
> > > found
> > > > ( http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule ) says:
> > > >
> > > > The Incubator must report to the ASF Board monthly. Each Incubator
> > > project
> > > > reports for the first three months of its incubation, and then
> > > quarterly.
> > > > Each month, roughly one third of the Incubator projects are reporting.
> > > >
> > > > Given that, since March will be our first formal report, I would propose
> > > > that we submit a report for March, April, and May, which treats it like
> > > our
> > > > first three months, and then fall into the quarterly rhythm. Sound
> > > > reasonable?
> > >
> > > Sounds perfect. Are you able to add us to that schedule?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Brian already added us to the queue for March.
> >
> > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule
> >
> > I'm not sure how we indicate we want to do March/April/May, and then
> > quarterly on that page. Perhaps we don't even need to? We just submit the
> > reports as per the schedule?
>
> 'tis good enough
>
> Upayavira
>
>
>
--
Luciano Resende
Apache Tuscany Committer
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: Apache Shindig Board Reports ?
Posted by Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk>.
On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 11:51 -0800, Dan Peterson wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 03:09 -0800, Dan Peterson wrote:
> > > Hey folks,
> > >
> > > First of all, Luciano, thank you so much for bringing this to the
> > attention
> > > of shindig-dev. I don't think many (any?) of us were previously aware of
> > the
> > > Apache Board reports process, so apologies for the oversight. I hope the
> > > other thread I just sent ("State of the Shindig - February 2008") will
> > be a
> > > good start to a thread that can be summarized for the March report.
> > >
> > > To the conversation that Bruno and Upayavira are having, the website I
> > found
> > > ( http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule ) says:
> > >
> > > The Incubator must report to the ASF Board monthly. Each Incubator
> > project
> > > reports for the first three months of its incubation, and then
> > quarterly.
> > > Each month, roughly one third of the Incubator projects are reporting.
> > >
> > > Given that, since March will be our first formal report, I would propose
> > > that we submit a report for March, April, and May, which treats it like
> > our
> > > first three months, and then fall into the quarterly rhythm. Sound
> > > reasonable?
> >
> > Sounds perfect. Are you able to add us to that schedule?
> >
> >
>
> Brian already added us to the queue for March.
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule
>
> I'm not sure how we indicate we want to do March/April/May, and then
> quarterly on that page. Perhaps we don't even need to? We just submit the
> reports as per the schedule?
'tis good enough
Upayavira
Re: Apache Shindig Board Reports ?
Posted by Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>.
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 03:09 -0800, Dan Peterson wrote:
> > Hey folks,
> >
> > First of all, Luciano, thank you so much for bringing this to the
> attention
> > of shindig-dev. I don't think many (any?) of us were previously aware of
> the
> > Apache Board reports process, so apologies for the oversight. I hope the
> > other thread I just sent ("State of the Shindig - February 2008") will
> be a
> > good start to a thread that can be summarized for the March report.
> >
> > To the conversation that Bruno and Upayavira are having, the website I
> found
> > ( http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule ) says:
> >
> > The Incubator must report to the ASF Board monthly. Each Incubator
> project
> > reports for the first three months of its incubation, and then
> quarterly.
> > Each month, roughly one third of the Incubator projects are reporting.
> >
> > Given that, since March will be our first formal report, I would propose
> > that we submit a report for March, April, and May, which treats it like
> our
> > first three months, and then fall into the quarterly rhythm. Sound
> > reasonable?
>
> Sounds perfect. Are you able to add us to that schedule?
>
>
Brian already added us to the queue for March.
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule
I'm not sure how we indicate we want to do March/April/May, and then
quarterly on that page. Perhaps we don't even need to? We just submit the
reports as per the schedule?
-Dan
Re: Apache Shindig Board Reports ?
Posted by Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk>.
On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 03:09 -0800, Dan Peterson wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> First of all, Luciano, thank you so much for bringing this to the attention
> of shindig-dev. I don't think many (any?) of us were previously aware of the
> Apache Board reports process, so apologies for the oversight. I hope the
> other thread I just sent ("State of the Shindig - February 2008") will be a
> good start to a thread that can be summarized for the March report.
>
> To the conversation that Bruno and Upayavira are having, the website I found
> ( http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule ) says:
>
> The Incubator must report to the ASF Board monthly. Each Incubator project
> reports for the first three months of its incubation, and then quarterly.
> Each month, roughly one third of the Incubator projects are reporting.
>
> Given that, since March will be our first formal report, I would propose
> that we submit a report for March, April, and May, which treats it like our
> first three months, and then fall into the quarterly rhythm. Sound
> reasonable?
Sounds perfect. Are you able to add us to that schedule?
Upayavira
Re: Apache Shindig Board Reports ?
Posted by Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>.
Hey folks,
First of all, Luciano, thank you so much for bringing this to the attention
of shindig-dev. I don't think many (any?) of us were previously aware of the
Apache Board reports process, so apologies for the oversight. I hope the
other thread I just sent ("State of the Shindig - February 2008") will be a
good start to a thread that can be summarized for the March report.
To the conversation that Bruno and Upayavira are having, the website I found
( http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule ) says:
The Incubator must report to the ASF Board monthly. Each Incubator project
reports for the first three months of its incubation, and then quarterly.
Each month, roughly one third of the Incubator projects are reporting.
Given that, since March will be our first formal report, I would propose
that we submit a report for March, April, and May, which treats it like our
first three months, and then fall into the quarterly rhythm. Sound
reasonable?
-Dan
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Bruno Bowden <br...@google.com> wrote:
> You're correct Upayavira, it's that the schedule means that 1/3 of
> projects
> are reporting any given month, rather than saying that only 1/3 of them
> bother to report when it's required.
>
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > (a) I personally doubt that 1/3 figure. I'd like to see that backed up.
> >
> > However, Shindig has been lax in submitting board reports. Principal
> > responsibility for this lies with the mentors. I take responsibility for
> > my omission here. I believe Brian has said the same elsewhere. Between
> > us, we shall make a report gets to the board next month.
> >
> > Regards, Upayavira
> >
> > On Sat, 2008-02-23 at 09:49 -0800, Bruno Bowden wrote:
> > > It says that we should be reporting monthly for the first three months
> > and
> > > then quarterly after that. At the same time it also says that only 1/3
> > of
> > > incubator projects are actively following these guidelines.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Luciano Resende <luckbr1975@gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Just trying to help with the Apache way of doing things for new
> > > > podlings. I was looking for Board Reports from Shindig and could not
> > > > find it, are they available somewhere ? Also, looks like the Board
> > > > Report Schedule [1] is still not listing Shindig.
> > > >
> > > > [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule
> > > > [2] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Luciano Resende
> > > > Apache Tuscany Committer
> > > > http://people.apache.org/~lresende<http://people.apache.org/%7Elresende>
> <http://people.apache.org/%7Elresende><
> > http://people.apache.org/%7Elresende>
> > > > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> > > >
> >
> >
>
Re: Apache Shindig Board Reports ?
Posted by Bruno Bowden <br...@google.com>.
You're correct Upayavira, it's that the schedule means that 1/3 of projects
are reporting any given month, rather than saying that only 1/3 of them
bother to report when it's required.
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
> (a) I personally doubt that 1/3 figure. I'd like to see that backed up.
>
> However, Shindig has been lax in submitting board reports. Principal
> responsibility for this lies with the mentors. I take responsibility for
> my omission here. I believe Brian has said the same elsewhere. Between
> us, we shall make a report gets to the board next month.
>
> Regards, Upayavira
>
> On Sat, 2008-02-23 at 09:49 -0800, Bruno Bowden wrote:
> > It says that we should be reporting monthly for the first three months
> and
> > then quarterly after that. At the same time it also says that only 1/3
> of
> > incubator projects are actively following these guidelines.
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Just trying to help with the Apache way of doing things for new
> > > podlings. I was looking for Board Reports from Shindig and could not
> > > find it, are they available somewhere ? Also, looks like the Board
> > > Report Schedule [1] is still not listing Shindig.
> > >
> > > [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule
> > > [2] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html
> > >
> > > --
> > > Luciano Resende
> > > Apache Tuscany Committer
> > > http://people.apache.org/~lresende<http://people.apache.org/%7Elresende><
> http://people.apache.org/%7Elresende>
> > > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> > >
>
>
Re: Apache Shindig Board Reports ?
Posted by Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk>.
(a) I personally doubt that 1/3 figure. I'd like to see that backed up.
However, Shindig has been lax in submitting board reports. Principal
responsibility for this lies with the mentors. I take responsibility for
my omission here. I believe Brian has said the same elsewhere. Between
us, we shall make a report gets to the board next month.
Regards, Upayavira
On Sat, 2008-02-23 at 09:49 -0800, Bruno Bowden wrote:
> It says that we should be reporting monthly for the first three months and
> then quarterly after that. At the same time it also says that only 1/3 of
> incubator projects are actively following these guidelines.
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Just trying to help with the Apache way of doing things for new
> > podlings. I was looking for Board Reports from Shindig and could not
> > find it, are they available somewhere ? Also, looks like the Board
> > Report Schedule [1] is still not listing Shindig.
> >
> > [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule
> > [2] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html
> >
> > --
> > Luciano Resende
> > Apache Tuscany Committer
> > http://people.apache.org/~lresende <http://people.apache.org/%7Elresende>
> > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> >
RE: Apache Shindig Board Reports ?
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
> only 1/3 of incubator projects are actively following these guidelines.
How so? If so, we need to improve on that ASAP!
--- Noel
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Re: Apache Shindig Board Reports ?
Posted by Bruno Bowden <br...@google.com>.
It says that we should be reporting monthly for the first three months and
then quarterly after that. At the same time it also says that only 1/3 of
incubator projects are actively following these guidelines.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Just trying to help with the Apache way of doing things for new
> podlings. I was looking for Board Reports from Shindig and could not
> find it, are they available somewhere ? Also, looks like the Board
> Report Schedule [1] is still not listing Shindig.
>
> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule
> [2] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> Apache Tuscany Committer
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende <http://people.apache.org/%7Elresende>
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>
Re: Apache Shindig Board Reports ?
Posted by Bruno Bowden <br...@google.com>.
It says that we should be reporting monthly for the first three months and
then quarterly after that. At the same time it also says that only 1/3 of
incubator projects are actively following these guidelines.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Just trying to help with the Apache way of doing things for new
> podlings. I was looking for Board Reports from Shindig and could not
> find it, are they available somewhere ? Also, looks like the Board
> Report Schedule [1] is still not listing Shindig.
>
> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule
> [2] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> Apache Tuscany Committer
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende <http://people.apache.org/%7Elresende>
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>
Re: Apache Shindig Board Reports ?
Posted by Brian McCallister <br...@skife.org>.
Good catch, thank you!
I just added us to the third group (ie, the March group). We'll need to be
good incubatorlings and probably do our "first three months" of reporting a
bit late :-)
-Brian
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Just trying to help with the Apache way of doing things for new
> podlings. I was looking for Board Reports from Shindig and could not
> find it, are they available somewhere ? Also, looks like the Board
> Report Schedule [1] is still not listing Shindig.
>
> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule
> [2] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> Apache Tuscany Committer
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende <http://people.apache.org/%7Elresende>
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>
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