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Posted to jdo-dev@db.apache.org by Michelle Caisse <mc...@sonic.net> on 2011/10/28 07:26:41 UTC
JDO TCK Conference Call Friday, Oct 28, 9 am Pacific Time
Hi,
We will have our regular meeting Friday, October 28 at 9 am Pacific
Time to discuss JDO TCK issues and status.
Dial-in numbers are:
US Toll free: 866 682-4770
Germany Frankfurt 069222216106
Germany Toll free: 08006648515
(Other countries by request)
To place the call:
1. Call the toll free number.
2. Enter the conference number 939-3689#
3. Enter the security code 1111#
Agenda:
1. JDO 3.0.1 release issues
2. Spec updates for JDOQL : Support for further methods (String,
Enum, Date, JDOHelper) https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JDO-658
3. Other issues
Action Items from weeks past:
[April 8 2011] AI Craig comment on
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JDO-617 re the utility of the
update operator.
[Sep 23 2011] AI Michael prepare spec update for JDOQL changes
(JDO-658) and document restrictions on Enum.ordinal and Enum.toString.
Create new JIRA for Math methods in JDOQL.
[Sep 23 2011] AI Michael document when changing dependencies (to
DataNucleus) it's necessary to rebuild the exectck project before
running tck.
Minutes: JDO TCK Conference Call Friday, Nov 10, 9 am Pacific Time
Posted by Craig L Russell <cr...@oracle.com>.
Attendees: Michael Bouschen, Matthew Adams, Craig Russell
Agenda:
1. JDO 3.0.1 release is available for testing!
The release was voted and is now pending turning the crank. AI Matthew
ship it.
Matthew will need to update the KEYS file for the db project. AI Craig
send link for how to do it.
2. New feature idea http://osdir.com/ml/jdo-dev-db-apache/2011-11/msg00002.html
More detail is still needed on the proposal.
3. Other issues
What about setting up Facebook page, Google+ account, Twitter?
Matthew volunteered to set up some social networking for JDO.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JDO-696 Throw an exception if an
unrecognized property with "javax.jdo" prefix. Should the test be case
sensitive? Probably not.
Action Items from weeks past:
[April 8 2011] AI Craig comment on https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JDO-617
re the utility of the update operator.
[Sep 23 2011] AI Michael document when changing dependencies (to
DataNucleus) it's necessary to rebuild the exectck project before
running tck.
Craig L Russell
Architect, Oracle
http://db.apache.org/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
Re: Minutes: JDO TCK Conference Call Friday, Nov 3, 9 am Pacific Time
Posted by Craig L Russell <cr...@oracle.com>.
Hi Tim,
On Nov 8, 2011, at 10:50 AM, tgallagher@mmm.com wrote:
> Craig,
>
> Thanks for the minutes write up.
>
> I've been going through the JDO API in more detail and in order to
> implement the QBE and get the changed information for a JavaBean, it
> appears to require that an object not be in the Transient state.
> However,
> the objects I see being created for the QBE will always be in the
> Transient state. To make this work in the Transient state, this would
> required that there be a StateManager associated with the JavaBean.
That is the purpose of makeTransactional. This API associates a
StateManager with the transient object.
Then we need to see what other APIs will help you to use the
information that is known by the StateManager.
Hope this helps,
Craig
> So,
> I'm looking at the implication of associating a StateManager with a
> JavaBean while in the Transient state and the effect it might have
> if a
> developer than happens to try and make the JavaBean persistent.
> This will
> take a little longer than I had hoped.
>
> Tim Gallagher
>
Craig L Russell
Architect, Oracle
http://db.apache.org/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
Re: Minutes: JDO TCK Conference Call Friday, Nov 3, 9 am Pacific Time
Posted by tg...@mmm.com.
Craig,
Thanks for the minutes write up.
I've been going through the JDO API in more detail and in order to
implement the QBE and get the changed information for a JavaBean, it
appears to require that an object not be in the Transient state. However,
the objects I see being created for the QBE will always be in the
Transient state. To make this work in the Transient state, this would
required that there be a StateManager associated with the JavaBean. So,
I'm looking at the implication of associating a StateManager with a
JavaBean while in the Transient state and the effect it might have if a
developer than happens to try and make the JavaBean persistent. This will
take a little longer than I had hoped.
Tim Gallagher
Clinical & Economic Research
3M Health Information Systems
5000 Buttercup Drive
Castle Rock, CO 80109
Phone: (303) 814-3867
From:
Craig L Russell <cr...@oracle.com>
To:
jdo-dev@db.apache.org
Cc:
jdo-experts-ext@sun.com
Date:
11/04/2011 12:36 PM
Subject:
Minutes: JDO TCK Conference Call Friday, Nov 3, 9 am Pacific Time
Reminder: Next week's meeting will be in Standard Time not Daylight
Savings Time.
Attendees: Tim Gallagher, Michelle Caisse, Michael Bouschen, Matthew
Adams, Craig Russell
Agenda:
1. JDO 3.0.1 release is available for testing!
Everyone please at least download this release.
2. New feature idea
http://osdir.com/ml/jdo-dev-db-apache/2011-11/msg00002.html
Seems like a reasonable idea. We might add a method to JDOHelper
similar to makeDirty. Other interfaces may need to be enhanced as
well. AI Tim write up more detailed proposal.
3. Other issues
JDO-699 looks good. Speak now or this will be done.
Action Items from weeks past:
[April 8 2011] AI Craig comment on
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JDO-617
re the utility of the update operator.
[Sep 23 2011] AI Michael prepare spec update for JDOQL changes
(JDO-658) and document restrictions on Enum.ordinal and Enum.toString.
Create new JIRA for Math methods in JDOQL.
Done!
[Sep 23 2011] AI Michael document when changing dependencies (to
DataNucleus) it's necessary to rebuild the exectck project before
running tck.
Craig L Russell
Architect, Oracle
http://db.apache.org/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
Minutes: JDO TCK Conference Call Friday, Nov 3, 9 am Pacific Time
Posted by Craig L Russell <cr...@oracle.com>.
Reminder: Next week's meeting will be in Standard Time not Daylight
Savings Time.
Attendees: Tim Gallagher, Michelle Caisse, Michael Bouschen, Matthew
Adams, Craig Russell
Agenda:
1. JDO 3.0.1 release is available for testing!
Everyone please at least download this release.
2. New feature idea http://osdir.com/ml/jdo-dev-db-apache/2011-11/msg00002.html
Seems like a reasonable idea. We might add a method to JDOHelper
similar to makeDirty. Other interfaces may need to be enhanced as
well. AI Tim write up more detailed proposal.
3. Other issues
JDO-699 looks good. Speak now or this will be done.
Action Items from weeks past:
[April 8 2011] AI Craig comment on https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JDO-617
re the utility of the update operator.
[Sep 23 2011] AI Michael prepare spec update for JDOQL changes
(JDO-658) and document restrictions on Enum.ordinal and Enum.toString.
Create new JIRA for Math methods in JDOQL.
Done!
[Sep 23 2011] AI Michael document when changing dependencies (to
DataNucleus) it's necessary to rebuild the exectck project before
running tck.
Craig L Russell
Architect, Oracle
http://db.apache.org/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
JDO TCK Conference Call Friday,Nov 3, 9 am Pacific Time [TIME CHANGE
IN SOME REGIONS]
Posted by Michelle Caisse <mc...@sonic.net>.
Hi,
We will have our regular meeting Friday, November 3 at 9 am Pacific
Time to discuss JDO TCK issues and status.
*********************************************************
The US goes off of daylight savings time NEXT week.
In those regions that have already gone off of daylight savings time,
the meeting will be ONE HOUR EARLIER than normal this week.
*********************************************************
Dial-in numbers are:
US Toll free: 866 682-4770
Germany Frankfurt 069222216106
Germany Toll free: 08006648515
(Other countries by request)
To place the call:
1. Call the toll free number.
2. Enter the conference number 939-3689#
3. Enter the security code 1111#
Agenda:
1. JDO 3.0.1 release is available for testing!
2. New feature idea
http://osdir.com/ml/jdo-dev-db-apache/2011-11/msg00002.html
3. Other issues
Action Items from weeks past:
[April 8 2011] AI Craig comment on
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JDO-617 re the utility of the
update operator.
[Sep 23 2011] AI Michael prepare spec update for JDOQL changes
(JDO-658) and document restrictions on Enum.ordinal and Enum.toString.
Create new JIRA for Math methods in JDOQL.
[Sep 23 2011] AI Michael document when changing dependencies (to
DataNucleus) it's necessary to rebuild the exectck project before
running tck.
Minutes: JDO TCK Conference Call Friday, Oct 28, 9 am Pacific Time
Posted by Craig L Russell <cr...@oracle.com>.
NOTE: Daylight Savings ends next week for everyone outside the USA.
Attendees: Michelle Caisse, Matthew Adams, Michael Bouschen, Craig
Russell
Agenda:
1. JDO 3.0.1 release issues
The 3.0.1 api test now fails. Solution: merge some of the trunk fixes
into the branch before release.
2. Spec updates for JDOQL : Support for further methods (String,
Enum, Date, JDOHelper) https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JDO-658
Looks good.
3. Other issues
JDO-700 was fixed. Good job.
What about archiving the obsolete projects? Maybe move e.g. api11,
api2-legacy, etc. from trunk to a new archive directory?
Action Items from weeks past:
[April 8 2011] AI Craig comment on https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JDO-617
re the utility of the update operator.
[Sep 23 2011] AI Michael prepare spec update for JDOQL changes
(JDO-658) and document restrictions on Enum.ordinal and Enum.toString.
Create new JIRA for Math methods in JDOQL.
[Sep 23 2011] AI Michael document when changing dependencies (to
DataNucleus) it's necessary to rebuild the exectck project before
running tck.
Craig L Russell
Architect, Oracle
http://db.apache.org/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!