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OpenOffice Weekly News

In another thread I pointed to an interesting thing the CouchDb
project was doing on their blog:

https://blogs.apache.org/couchdb/entry/couchdb_weekly_news_april_3

I suggested doing something similar for AOO, perhaps by collecting
stories on the wiki and then copying into a blog post at regular
intervals.  The feedback was good, so let's give it a try!

The template, with a little content to get started is on the wiki here:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40508638

As you come across interesting content, from within the community, the
forums, in the press, blogs, wherever, feel free to add it to the
wiki.   When April 21st comes, I (or someone else if they want) will
copy it into the blog, do some light editing, publish and then reset
the wiki so we can start again for the next issue.

Thanks!

-Rob

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Re: OpenOffice Weekly News

Posted by Jörg Schmidt <jo...@j-m-schmidt.de>.
on Friday, April 18, 2014 4:06 PM Rob Weir wrote:

> > What do you think what is the target group that is? Only
> project members, or interested OpenOffice users [*] who want
> to stay up to date?
> > 
> 
> I think it would be a mix of two audiences:
> 
> 1) Project members who focus on one are of the project, say,
> translation, but want to have a high level view of what is happening
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> in other areas of the project.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yes, it is, at this specific perspective I had not thought


> That sounds like a lot of work. 

not really, please look here two points: 

1. 
I do not fully translate everything, but only the summary statements 

2.
Our work takes place in reality, that is, not all local projects will create translations, but this is not yet so bad. 
For example, see the "Release Notes", there only translations for a part of the recorded languages will be created.

> But if you want to do it...

The English original of news should of course be published in the blog, the translations (eg German) but imho can remain in the wiki.

I have the structure in the wiki something customized. There is now for (de) the design area: 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40509335 

the week is first deleted and then filled with new content. 

Also, there is the area for the publications, which is an archive of publications at the same time: 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40509513


Note:
I would also equal to post a link to the staging page with the entry in the German website, but the Apache CMS currently seems not to work.


> Another possibility to consider:  We could include native language
> stories directly in main wiki page.  For example, the 100 million
> download post had coverage in Italian and French.  They could be
> included directly.  If there is an interesting thread on a native
> language mailing list or forum, that could be added, etc.  So the main
> post could be international and multi-lingual, but not translated.

That's right, but please look realistic: AOO is a meritocracy project and only the work done, the concrete people want to do. 
Of course, many things would Other desirable, but this discussion is theoretically as long as there are no people who want to do the work concretely. 


Greetings,
Jörg


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Re: OpenOffice Weekly News

Posted by Jörg Schmidt <jo...@j-m-schmidt.de>.
on Friday, April 18, 2014 4:06 PM Rob Weir wrote:

> > What do you think what is the target group that is? Only
> project members, or interested OpenOffice users [*] who want
> to stay up to date?
> > 
> 
> I think it would be a mix of two audiences:
> 
> 1) Project members who focus on one are of the project, say,
> translation, but want to have a high level view of what is happening
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> in other areas of the project.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yes, it is, at this specific perspective I had not thought


> That sounds like a lot of work. 

not really, please look here two points: 

1. 
I do not fully translate everything, but only the summary statements 

2.
Our work takes place in reality, that is, not all local projects will create translations, but this is not yet so bad. 
For example, see the "Release Notes", there only translations for a part of the recorded languages will be created.

> But if you want to do it...

The English original of news should of course be published in the blog, the translations (eg German) but imho can remain in the wiki.

I have the structure in the wiki something customized. There is now for (de) the design area: 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40509335 

the week is first deleted and then filled with new content. 

Also, there is the area for the publications, which is an archive of publications at the same time: 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40509513


Note:
I would also equal to post a link to the staging page with the entry in the German website, but the Apache CMS currently seems not to work.


> Another possibility to consider:  We could include native language
> stories directly in main wiki page.  For example, the 100 million
> download post had coverage in Italian and French.  They could be
> included directly.  If there is an interesting thread on a native
> language mailing list or forum, that could be added, etc.  So the main
> post could be international and multi-lingual, but not translated.

That's right, but please look realistic: AOO is a meritocracy project and only the work done, the concrete people want to do. 
Of course, many things would Other desirable, but this discussion is theoretically as long as there are no people who want to do the work concretely. 


Greetings,
Jörg


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Re: OpenOffice Weekly News

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 6:23 AM, Jörg Schmidt <jo...@j-m-schmidt.de> wrote:
> on Monday, April 14, 2014 7:37 PM Rob Weir wrote:
>> In another thread I pointed to an interesting thing the CouchDb
>> project was doing on their blog:
>>
>> https://blogs.apache.org/couchdb/entry/couchdb_weekly_news_april_3
>>
>> I suggested doing something similar for AOO, perhaps by collecting
>> stories on the wiki and then copying into a blog post at regular
>> intervals.  The feedback was good, so let's give it a try!
>>
>> The template, with a little content to get started is on the
>> wiki here:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?page
>> Id=40508638
>>
>> As you come across interesting content, from within the community, the
>> forums, in the press, blogs, wherever, feel free to add it to the
>> wiki.   When April 21st comes, I (or someone else if they want) will
>> copy it into the blog, do some light editing, publish and then reset
>> the wiki so we can start again for the next issue.
>
> I think this is an interesting idea.
>
> What do you think what is the target group that is? Only project members, or interested OpenOffice users [*] who want to stay up to date?
>

I think it would be a mix of two audiences:

1) Project members who focus on one are of the project, say,
translation, but want to have a high level view of what is happening
in other areas of the project.

2) Users who don't subscribe to our mailing lists but are interested
in knowing what happens between releases.


> In the latter case, it would not make sense these blog posts to translate into important passages [**] and to link to the Native Language websites?
>

That sounds like a lot of work.  But if you want to do it...

Another possibility to consider:  We could include native language
stories directly in main wiki page.  For example, the 100 million
download post had coverage in Italian and French.  They could be
included directly.  If there is an interesting thread on a native
language mailing list or forum, that could be added, etc.  So the main
post could be international and multi-lingual, but not translated.

-Rob


>
> [*]
> Note: also, for example Consutants (http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html) are ultimately OO users
>
> [**]
> Why only in important passages?
> Because I can think of to do this work for de. There must be, however, always be a full translation, I lack the time to do so.
> See my current translation (still in progress): https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40509335
>
>
>
> Greetings,
> Jörg
>
>
>
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Re: OpenOffice Weekly News

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 6:23 AM, Jörg Schmidt <jo...@j-m-schmidt.de> wrote:
> on Monday, April 14, 2014 7:37 PM Rob Weir wrote:
>> In another thread I pointed to an interesting thing the CouchDb
>> project was doing on their blog:
>>
>> https://blogs.apache.org/couchdb/entry/couchdb_weekly_news_april_3
>>
>> I suggested doing something similar for AOO, perhaps by collecting
>> stories on the wiki and then copying into a blog post at regular
>> intervals.  The feedback was good, so let's give it a try!
>>
>> The template, with a little content to get started is on the
>> wiki here:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?page
>> Id=40508638
>>
>> As you come across interesting content, from within the community, the
>> forums, in the press, blogs, wherever, feel free to add it to the
>> wiki.   When April 21st comes, I (or someone else if they want) will
>> copy it into the blog, do some light editing, publish and then reset
>> the wiki so we can start again for the next issue.
>
> I think this is an interesting idea.
>
> What do you think what is the target group that is? Only project members, or interested OpenOffice users [*] who want to stay up to date?
>

I think it would be a mix of two audiences:

1) Project members who focus on one are of the project, say,
translation, but want to have a high level view of what is happening
in other areas of the project.

2) Users who don't subscribe to our mailing lists but are interested
in knowing what happens between releases.


> In the latter case, it would not make sense these blog posts to translate into important passages [**] and to link to the Native Language websites?
>

That sounds like a lot of work.  But if you want to do it...

Another possibility to consider:  We could include native language
stories directly in main wiki page.  For example, the 100 million
download post had coverage in Italian and French.  They could be
included directly.  If there is an interesting thread on a native
language mailing list or forum, that could be added, etc.  So the main
post could be international and multi-lingual, but not translated.

-Rob


>
> [*]
> Note: also, for example Consutants (http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html) are ultimately OO users
>
> [**]
> Why only in important passages?
> Because I can think of to do this work for de. There must be, however, always be a full translation, I lack the time to do so.
> See my current translation (still in progress): https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40509335
>
>
>
> Greetings,
> Jörg
>
>
>
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Re: OpenOffice Weekly News

Posted by Jörg Schmidt <jo...@j-m-schmidt.de>.
on Monday, April 14, 2014 7:37 PM Rob Weir wrote:
> In another thread I pointed to an interesting thing the CouchDb
> project was doing on their blog:
> 
> https://blogs.apache.org/couchdb/entry/couchdb_weekly_news_april_3
> 
> I suggested doing something similar for AOO, perhaps by collecting
> stories on the wiki and then copying into a blog post at regular
> intervals.  The feedback was good, so let's give it a try!
> 
> The template, with a little content to get started is on the
> wiki here:
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?page
> Id=40508638 
> 
> As you come across interesting content, from within the community, the
> forums, in the press, blogs, wherever, feel free to add it to the
> wiki.   When April 21st comes, I (or someone else if they want) will
> copy it into the blog, do some light editing, publish and then reset
> the wiki so we can start again for the next issue.

I think this is an interesting idea. 

What do you think what is the target group that is? Only project members, or interested OpenOffice users [*] who want to stay up to date? 

In the latter case, it would not make sense these blog posts to translate into important passages [**] and to link to the Native Language websites? 


[*]
Note: also, for example Consutants (http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html) are ultimately OO users

[**]
Why only in important passages? 
Because I can think of to do this work for de. There must be, however, always be a full translation, I lack the time to do so. 
See my current translation (still in progress): https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40509335



Greetings,
Jörg



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Re: OpenOffice Weekly News

Posted by Jörg Schmidt <jo...@j-m-schmidt.de>.
on Monday, April 14, 2014 7:37 PM Rob Weir wrote:
> In another thread I pointed to an interesting thing the CouchDb
> project was doing on their blog:
> 
> https://blogs.apache.org/couchdb/entry/couchdb_weekly_news_april_3
> 
> I suggested doing something similar for AOO, perhaps by collecting
> stories on the wiki and then copying into a blog post at regular
> intervals.  The feedback was good, so let's give it a try!
> 
> The template, with a little content to get started is on the
> wiki here:
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?page
> Id=40508638 
> 
> As you come across interesting content, from within the community, the
> forums, in the press, blogs, wherever, feel free to add it to the
> wiki.   When April 21st comes, I (or someone else if they want) will
> copy it into the blog, do some light editing, publish and then reset
> the wiki so we can start again for the next issue.

I think this is an interesting idea. 

What do you think what is the target group that is? Only project members, or interested OpenOffice users [*] who want to stay up to date? 

In the latter case, it would not make sense these blog posts to translate into important passages [**] and to link to the Native Language websites? 


[*]
Note: also, for example Consutants (http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html) are ultimately OO users

[**]
Why only in important passages? 
Because I can think of to do this work for de. There must be, however, always be a full translation, I lack the time to do so. 
See my current translation (still in progress): https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40509335



Greetings,
Jörg



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