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[RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache Brooklyn from incubator
Vote passes with:
+1 - 6 binding (ke4qqq, jbonofre, jzb, johndament, olamy, hadrian)
+1 - 2 non-binding
-1 - 0
We will submit the proposal below to the board for approval (including
jbonofre and olamy in the PMC).
Many thanks again to our mentors and the incubator in general for the
guidance.
Hadrian
On 09/28/2015 10:06 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
> This is the Incubator vote to decide if Apache Brooklyn should graduate
> from the Incubator. Please see the proposed resolution below.
>
> See also discuss thread [1]. Mentors were invited to join the future TLP
> PMC on request. Invitation is open until this vote is closed.
>
> This vote is open for at least 72 hours.
>
> [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Brooklyn from the Incubator.
> [ ] +0 Don't care.
> [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache Brooklyn from the Incubator because ...
>
> Thanks,
> Hadrian
>
> [1]
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201509.mbox/%3C5604323C.1010207%40gmail.com%3E
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
> X. Establish the Apache Brooklyn Project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
> public, related to tools that help automate various
> administrative tasks or information lookup activities.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Brooklyn Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Brooklyn Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
> framework for modeling, monitoring, and managing cloud
> applications through autonomic blueprints; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Brooklyn"
> be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache Brooklyn Project, and to have primary
> responsibility for management of the projects within the scope
> of responsibility of the Apache Brooklyn Project; and be it
> further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache Brooklyn Project Management Committee:
>
> * Aled Sage <al...@apache.org>
> * Alex Heneveld <he...@apache.org>
> * Andrea Turli <an...@apache.org>
> * Andrew Kennedy <gr...@apache.org>
> * Ciprian Ciubotariu <ci...@apache.org>
> * Hadrian Zbarcea <ha...@apache.org>
> * Richard Downer <ri...@apache.org>
> * Sam Corbett <sj...@apache.org>
> * Svetoslav Neykov <sv...@apache.org>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Richard Downer be
> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Brooklyn, to
> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
> resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until
> a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Brooklyn Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> Apache Brooklyn Project.
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Re: Not just yet (was: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Brooklyn from incubator)
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
Indeed, if Hadrian had succeeded in editing during the meeting, it would
have been fixed right then. Murphy weighed in and we have a 4 week delay.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:03 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
wrote:
> Ah ha. It wasn't clear from the original email this happened during the
> board meeting. Now I get it.
> On Oct 21, 2015 23:09, "Marvin Humphrey" <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 7:58 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I think that's my point. Those two weeks should be used to get
> incubator
> > > approval. If you wait 4 weeks you don't graduate until December.
> >
> > The Incubator isn't going to vote again. The text of the graduation
> > resolution from an Incubator recommendation is advisory and the Board
> > often modifies it. (The Incubator gets the text wrong embarrassingly
> > often.) The Board passing a resolution to establish a TLP is the
> > crucial step from the standpoint of the Foundation as a corporate
> > entity.
> >
> > It's regrettable that the glitch was not caught until there was little
> > time left during today's meeting, but resolutions are powerful tools
> > and it's important to get the language right. The Foundation's bylaws
> > constrain the Board's ability to act -- it's not supposed to be easy.
> >
> > Marvin Humphrey
> >
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Re: Not just yet
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
Indeed, the month delay in consideration is exactly an opportunity to
correct the resolutions technical defects.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> I was a reply to your message, but it was not pointed at you. Seriously.
> Maybe the "curious" part a bit, because you asked. We know however from
> experience that there are many other people who are curious what happens
> when unusual events like this take place and even a few, as I called them
> "conspiracy theorists".
>
> Normally I wouldn't write such a reply, but I wanted to take the
> opportunity to also point the positive (because the negatives are so often
> debated at length), which is the fact that board actually was accommodating
> and offered the opportunity for correction. Just to paint a clearer picture
> of the *people* behind board@.
>
> So concerns like the ones you raised are, from my point of view, very
> welcome. Especially as they come in the right tone. They create
> opportunities for learning for lurkers.
>
> Cheers,
> Hadrian
>
>
>
> On 10/22/2015 11:13 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
>
>> On Oct 22, 2015 8:05 AM, "Hadrian Zbarcea" <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> For the curious and conspiracy theorists :) let me complete the picture.
>>>
>>> I did actually attend the board meeting as I usually do and the board was
>>>
>> gracious enough to give me a couple of minutes to correct the resolution.
>> Unfortunately, whimsy wouldn't save the corrected resolution, for a reason
>> I don't yet understand. I went a second round with svn, but ran out of
>> time.
>>
>>>
>>> Looks like I got the graduation gods really angry. This is not what a
>>>
>> podling should expect from an ASF member.
>>
>> I'll assume that this was pointed to me. If your email was clearer I
>> wouldn't have been confused about scope. I apologize for any concerns
>> this
>> raised.
>>
>> Note that I never said you needed a revote. It wasn't clear that this
>> came
>> out of the board, in the past when we had failed graduations it never made
>> it back to the incubator.
>>
>>
>>> Hadrian
>>>
>>> On 10/22/2015 07:03 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ah ha. It wasn't clear from the original email this happened during the
>>>> board meeting. Now I get it.
>>>> On Oct 21, 2015 23:09, "Marvin Humphrey" <ma...@rectangular.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 7:58 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that's my point. Those two weeks should be used to get
>>>>>>
>>>>> incubator
>>
>>> approval. If you wait 4 weeks you don't graduate until December.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Incubator isn't going to vote again. The text of the graduation
>>>>> resolution from an Incubator recommendation is advisory and the Board
>>>>> often modifies it. (The Incubator gets the text wrong embarrassingly
>>>>> often.) The Board passing a resolution to establish a TLP is the
>>>>> crucial step from the standpoint of the Foundation as a corporate
>>>>> entity.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's regrettable that the glitch was not caught until there was little
>>>>> time left during today's meeting, but resolutions are powerful tools
>>>>> and it's important to get the language right. The Foundation's bylaws
>>>>> constrain the Board's ability to act -- it's not supposed to be easy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marvin Humphrey
>>>>>
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Re: Not just yet
Posted by Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>.
Hi John,
I was a reply to your message, but it was not pointed at you. Seriously.
Maybe the "curious" part a bit, because you asked. We know however from
experience that there are many other people who are curious what happens
when unusual events like this take place and even a few, as I called
them "conspiracy theorists".
Normally I wouldn't write such a reply, but I wanted to take the
opportunity to also point the positive (because the negatives are so
often debated at length), which is the fact that board actually was
accommodating and offered the opportunity for correction. Just to paint
a clearer picture of the *people* behind board@.
So concerns like the ones you raised are, from my point of view, very
welcome. Especially as they come in the right tone. They create
opportunities for learning for lurkers.
Cheers,
Hadrian
On 10/22/2015 11:13 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
> On Oct 22, 2015 8:05 AM, "Hadrian Zbarcea" <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> For the curious and conspiracy theorists :) let me complete the picture.
>>
>> I did actually attend the board meeting as I usually do and the board was
> gracious enough to give me a couple of minutes to correct the resolution.
> Unfortunately, whimsy wouldn't save the corrected resolution, for a reason
> I don't yet understand. I went a second round with svn, but ran out of time.
>>
>> Looks like I got the graduation gods really angry. This is not what a
> podling should expect from an ASF member.
>
> I'll assume that this was pointed to me. If your email was clearer I
> wouldn't have been confused about scope. I apologize for any concerns this
> raised.
>
> Note that I never said you needed a revote. It wasn't clear that this came
> out of the board, in the past when we had failed graduations it never made
> it back to the incubator.
>
>>
>> Hadrian
>>
>> On 10/22/2015 07:03 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
>>>
>>> Ah ha. It wasn't clear from the original email this happened during the
>>> board meeting. Now I get it.
>>> On Oct 21, 2015 23:09, "Marvin Humphrey" <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 7:58 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think that's my point. Those two weeks should be used to get
> incubator
>>>>> approval. If you wait 4 weeks you don't graduate until December.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Incubator isn't going to vote again. The text of the graduation
>>>> resolution from an Incubator recommendation is advisory and the Board
>>>> often modifies it. (The Incubator gets the text wrong embarrassingly
>>>> often.) The Board passing a resolution to establish a TLP is the
>>>> crucial step from the standpoint of the Foundation as a corporate
>>>> entity.
>>>>
>>>> It's regrettable that the glitch was not caught until there was little
>>>> time left during today's meeting, but resolutions are powerful tools
>>>> and it's important to get the language right. The Foundation's bylaws
>>>> constrain the Board's ability to act -- it's not supposed to be easy.
>>>>
>>>> Marvin Humphrey
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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Re: Not just yet
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com>.
On Oct 22, 2015 8:05 AM, "Hadrian Zbarcea" <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> For the curious and conspiracy theorists :) let me complete the picture.
>
> I did actually attend the board meeting as I usually do and the board was
gracious enough to give me a couple of minutes to correct the resolution.
Unfortunately, whimsy wouldn't save the corrected resolution, for a reason
I don't yet understand. I went a second round with svn, but ran out of time.
>
> Looks like I got the graduation gods really angry. This is not what a
podling should expect from an ASF member.
I'll assume that this was pointed to me. If your email was clearer I
wouldn't have been confused about scope. I apologize for any concerns this
raised.
Note that I never said you needed a revote. It wasn't clear that this came
out of the board, in the past when we had failed graduations it never made
it back to the incubator.
>
> Hadrian
>
> On 10/22/2015 07:03 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
>>
>> Ah ha. It wasn't clear from the original email this happened during the
>> board meeting. Now I get it.
>> On Oct 21, 2015 23:09, "Marvin Humphrey" <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 7:58 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think that's my point. Those two weeks should be used to get
incubator
>>>> approval. If you wait 4 weeks you don't graduate until December.
>>>
>>>
>>> The Incubator isn't going to vote again. The text of the graduation
>>> resolution from an Incubator recommendation is advisory and the Board
>>> often modifies it. (The Incubator gets the text wrong embarrassingly
>>> often.) The Board passing a resolution to establish a TLP is the
>>> crucial step from the standpoint of the Foundation as a corporate
>>> entity.
>>>
>>> It's regrettable that the glitch was not caught until there was little
>>> time left during today's meeting, but resolutions are powerful tools
>>> and it's important to get the language right. The Foundation's bylaws
>>> constrain the Board's ability to act -- it's not supposed to be easy.
>>>
>>> Marvin Humphrey
>>>
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>>>
>>
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Re: Not just yet
Posted by Alex Heneveld <al...@cloudsoftcorp.com>.
Hi Hadrian, All,
We have acquired a lot of familiarity with the challenges of the due
processes and also their importance. We in the Brooklyn community
understand completely and we really appreciate all the assistance we are
getting.
I suggest we still look to release an 0.9.0 around the beginning of
November, though it will be called 0.9.0-incubating, and keep our
fingers crossed for the next board meeting and a non-incubating 0.10.0
at the start of December.
Best
Alex
On 22/10/2015 13:18, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> For the curious and conspiracy theorists :) let me complete the picture.
>>
>> I did actually attend the board meeting as I usually do and the board was
>> gracious enough to give me a couple of minutes to correct the resolution.
>> Unfortunately, whimsy wouldn't save the corrected resolution, for a reason I
>> don't yet understand. I went a second round with svn, but ran out of time.
>>
>> Looks like I got the graduation gods really angry. This is not what a
>> podling should expect from an ASF member.
> There were other people who who voted for the graduation
> recommendation resolution, yet no reviewer raised any concern. The
> missing paragraph would have been subtle and hard to catch, but it's a
> bummer that nobody flagged the conflicting mission statements in two
> paragraphs. The drafter does not bear sole responsibility.
>
> Marvin Humphrey
>
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Re: Not just yet
Posted by Alex Heneveld <al...@cloudsoftcorp.com>.
Hi Hadrian, All,
We have acquired a lot of familiarity with the challenges of the due
processes and also their importance. We in the Brooklyn community
understand completely and we really appreciate all the assistance we are
getting.
I suggest we still look to release an 0.9.0 around the beginning of
November, though it will be called 0.9.0-incubating, and keep our
fingers crossed for the next board meeting and a non-incubating 0.10.0
at the start of December.
Best
Alex
On 22/10/2015 13:18, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> For the curious and conspiracy theorists :) let me complete the picture.
>>
>> I did actually attend the board meeting as I usually do and the board was
>> gracious enough to give me a couple of minutes to correct the resolution.
>> Unfortunately, whimsy wouldn't save the corrected resolution, for a reason I
>> don't yet understand. I went a second round with svn, but ran out of time.
>>
>> Looks like I got the graduation gods really angry. This is not what a
>> podling should expect from an ASF member.
> There were other people who who voted for the graduation
> recommendation resolution, yet no reviewer raised any concern. The
> missing paragraph would have been subtle and hard to catch, but it's a
> bummer that nobody flagged the conflicting mission statements in two
> paragraphs. The drafter does not bear sole responsibility.
>
> Marvin Humphrey
>
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Re: Not just yet
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For the curious and conspiracy theorists :) let me complete the picture.
>
> I did actually attend the board meeting as I usually do and the board was
> gracious enough to give me a couple of minutes to correct the resolution.
> Unfortunately, whimsy wouldn't save the corrected resolution, for a reason I
> don't yet understand. I went a second round with svn, but ran out of time.
>
> Looks like I got the graduation gods really angry. This is not what a
> podling should expect from an ASF member.
There were other people who who voted for the graduation
recommendation resolution, yet no reviewer raised any concern. The
missing paragraph would have been subtle and hard to catch, but it's a
bummer that nobody flagged the conflicting mission statements in two
paragraphs. The drafter does not bear sole responsibility.
Marvin Humphrey
Re: Not just yet
Posted by Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net>.
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 8:09 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 8:07 AM Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 2:15 AM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>> >...
>>
>> > I'm a bit bothered by the fact that this would mean that the community
>> > voted on one resolution and then a different resolution is constructed
>> > anew for the board to approve. But at the moment, I'm not sure how to
>> > solve that problem.
>> >
>>
>> New workflow:
>>
>> 1. $somebody uses whimsy to post a resolution
>> 2. commit message is forwarded to $list
>> 3. community sees $resolution
>>
>> I believe the question is "does the commit message reach the appropriate
>> audience?"
>>
>
> Maybe it stays in a waiting area until approved by the community?
There's an idea.
I prefer to focus on defining a process with whimsy in mind, and then
add support for making it easier to do something that could also be
done outside of whimsy.
Applied here, there could be a simple directory in
https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers of draft resolutions.
The board agenda tool could have one or more forms forms that assist
with drafting resolutions and place them in that directory. People
could update those resolutions directory, and perhaps the tool could
also be used for update.
The board agenda tool could add support for posting a draft resolution
found in this directory to this month's agenda.
>> Cheers,
>> -g
- Sam Ruby
P.S. Perhaps it is time for a different subject line and/or move to
dev@whimsical?
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Re: Not just yet
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 8:07 AM Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 2:15 AM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
> >...
>
> > I'm a bit bothered by the fact that this would mean that the community
> > voted on one resolution and then a different resolution is constructed
> > anew for the board to approve. But at the moment, I'm not sure how to
> > solve that problem.
> >
>
> New workflow:
>
> 1. $somebody uses whimsy to post a resolution
> 2. commit message is forwarded to $list
> 3. community sees $resolution
>
> I believe the question is "does the commit message reach the appropriate
> audience?"
>
Maybe it stays in a waiting area until approved by the community?
>
> Cheers,
> -g
>
Re: Not just yet
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 2:15 AM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>...
> I'm a bit bothered by the fact that this would mean that the community
> voted on one resolution and then a different resolution is constructed
> anew for the board to approve. But at the moment, I'm not sure how to
> solve that problem.
>
New workflow:
1. $somebody uses whimsy to post a resolution
2. commit message is forwarded to $list
3. community sees $resolution
I believe the question is "does the commit message reach the appropriate
audience?"
Cheers,
-g
Re: Not just yet
Posted by Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net>.
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 2:32 AM, Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 23, 2015 1:01 AM, "Sam Ruby" <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:17 PM, Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Oct 22, 2015 9:57 AM, "Sam Ruby" <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>> >>...
>> >> I've also opened another issue that I would appreciate feedback on:
>> >>
>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIMSY-28
>> >
>> > Cross-check is nice.
>> >
>> > I'd suggest another possibility: a web tool to *add* a template-based
>> > resolution in the first place.
>>
>> A.K.A. A wizard or assistant[1]. Good idea, and easy peasy to
>> implement.
>
> Yup. With the agenda editing bits you've developed, I figured you could do
> this with your morning coffee :-)
>
>> I can start with these:
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/templates/
>
> Yes.
>
>> The only thing that looks moderately challenging from a UI perspective
>> is allowing the entry of a list of users. I may just go with a
>> textarea as people generally have a resolution that they have voted on
>> prior to posting a board resolution.
>
> Good point. But in that whimsy issue, you mentioned checking the list of
> names/emails, so you've already got some processing for that textarea.
Indeed.
I'm a bit bothered by the fact that this would mean that the community
voted on one resolution and then a different resolution is constructed
anew for the board to approve. But at the moment, I'm not sure how to
solve that problem.
> Cheers,
> -g
- Sam Ruby
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Re: Not just yet
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>.
On Oct 23, 2015 1:01 AM, "Sam Ruby" <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:17 PM, Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Oct 22, 2015 9:57 AM, "Sam Ruby" <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
> >>...
> >> I've also opened another issue that I would appreciate feedback on:
> >>
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIMSY-28
> >
> > Cross-check is nice.
> >
> > I'd suggest another possibility: a web tool to *add* a template-based
> > resolution in the first place.
>
> A.K.A. A wizard or assistant[1]. Good idea, and easy peasy to
> implement.
Yup. With the agenda editing bits you've developed, I figured you could do
this with your morning coffee :-)
> I can start with these:
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/templates/
Yes.
> The only thing that looks moderately challenging from a UI perspective
> is allowing the entry of a list of users. I may just go with a
> textarea as people generally have a resolution that they have voted on
> prior to posting a board resolution.
Good point. But in that whimsy issue, you mentioned checking the list of
names/emails, so you've already got some processing for that textarea.
Cheers,
-g
Re: Not just yet
Posted by Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net>.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:17 PM, Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 22, 2015 9:57 AM, "Sam Ruby" <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>>...
>> I've also opened another issue that I would appreciate feedback on:
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIMSY-28
>
> Cross-check is nice.
>
> I'd suggest another possibility: a web tool to *add* a template-based
> resolution in the first place.
A.K.A. A wizard or assistant[1]. Good idea, and easy peasy to
implement. I can start with these:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/templates/
The only thing that looks moderately challenging from a UI perspective
is allowing the entry of a list of users. I may just go with a
textarea as people generally have a resolution that they have voted on
prior to posting a board resolution.
> Cheers,
> -g
- Sam Ruby
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wizard_%28software%29
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Re: Not just yet
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
Agreed, it would likely make more sense for the entire doc to be a
template, with only a few variables and maybe a single check indicating
they want bylaws or not.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:17 PM Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 22, 2015 9:57 AM, "Sam Ruby" <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
> >...
> > I've also opened another issue that I would appreciate feedback on:
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIMSY-28
>
> Cross-check is nice.
>
> I'd suggest another possibility: a web tool to *add* a template-based
> resolution in the first place.
>
> Cheers,
> -g
>
Re: Not just yet
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>.
On Oct 22, 2015 9:57 AM, "Sam Ruby" <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>...
> I've also opened another issue that I would appreciate feedback on:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIMSY-28
Cross-check is nice.
I'd suggest another possibility: a web tool to *add* a template-based
resolution in the first place.
Cheers,
-g
Re: Not just yet
Posted by Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net>.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For the curious and conspiracy theorists :) let me complete the picture.
>
> I did actually attend the board meeting as I usually do and the board was
> gracious enough to give me a couple of minutes to correct the resolution.
> Unfortunately, whimsy wouldn't save the corrected resolution, for a reason I
> don't yet understand. I went a second round with svn, but ran out of time.
I've opened an issue on the whimsy problem:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIMSY-27
I've also opened another issue that I would appreciate feedback on:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIMSY-28
> Looks like I got the graduation gods really angry. This is not what a
> podling should expect from an ASF member.
>
> Hadrian
- Sam Ruby
> On 10/22/2015 07:03 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
>>
>> Ah ha. It wasn't clear from the original email this happened during the
>> board meeting. Now I get it.
>> On Oct 21, 2015 23:09, "Marvin Humphrey" <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 7:58 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think that's my point. Those two weeks should be used to get
>>>> incubator
>>>> approval. If you wait 4 weeks you don't graduate until December.
>>>
>>>
>>> The Incubator isn't going to vote again. The text of the graduation
>>> resolution from an Incubator recommendation is advisory and the Board
>>> often modifies it. (The Incubator gets the text wrong embarrassingly
>>> often.) The Board passing a resolution to establish a TLP is the
>>> crucial step from the standpoint of the Foundation as a corporate
>>> entity.
>>>
>>> It's regrettable that the glitch was not caught until there was little
>>> time left during today's meeting, but resolutions are powerful tools
>>> and it's important to get the language right. The Foundation's bylaws
>>> constrain the Board's ability to act -- it's not supposed to be easy.
>>>
>>> Marvin Humphrey
>>>
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Re: Not just yet
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For the curious and conspiracy theorists :) let me complete the picture.
>
> I did actually attend the board meeting as I usually do and the board was
> gracious enough to give me a couple of minutes to correct the resolution.
> Unfortunately, whimsy wouldn't save the corrected resolution, for a reason I
> don't yet understand. I went a second round with svn, but ran out of time.
>
> Looks like I got the graduation gods really angry. This is not what a
> podling should expect from an ASF member.
There were other people who who voted for the graduation
recommendation resolution, yet no reviewer raised any concern. The
missing paragraph would have been subtle and hard to catch, but it's a
bummer that nobody flagged the conflicting mission statements in two
paragraphs. The drafter does not bear sole responsibility.
Marvin Humphrey
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Re: Not just yet
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com>.
On Oct 22, 2015 8:05 AM, "Hadrian Zbarcea" <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> For the curious and conspiracy theorists :) let me complete the picture.
>
> I did actually attend the board meeting as I usually do and the board was
gracious enough to give me a couple of minutes to correct the resolution.
Unfortunately, whimsy wouldn't save the corrected resolution, for a reason
I don't yet understand. I went a second round with svn, but ran out of time.
>
> Looks like I got the graduation gods really angry. This is not what a
podling should expect from an ASF member.
I'll assume that this was pointed to me. If your email was clearer I
wouldn't have been confused about scope. I apologize for any concerns this
raised.
Note that I never said you needed a revote. It wasn't clear that this came
out of the board, in the past when we had failed graduations it never made
it back to the incubator.
>
> Hadrian
>
> On 10/22/2015 07:03 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
>>
>> Ah ha. It wasn't clear from the original email this happened during the
>> board meeting. Now I get it.
>> On Oct 21, 2015 23:09, "Marvin Humphrey" <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 7:58 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think that's my point. Those two weeks should be used to get
incubator
>>>> approval. If you wait 4 weeks you don't graduate until December.
>>>
>>>
>>> The Incubator isn't going to vote again. The text of the graduation
>>> resolution from an Incubator recommendation is advisory and the Board
>>> often modifies it. (The Incubator gets the text wrong embarrassingly
>>> often.) The Board passing a resolution to establish a TLP is the
>>> crucial step from the standpoint of the Foundation as a corporate
>>> entity.
>>>
>>> It's regrettable that the glitch was not caught until there was little
>>> time left during today's meeting, but resolutions are powerful tools
>>> and it's important to get the language right. The Foundation's bylaws
>>> constrain the Board's ability to act -- it's not supposed to be easy.
>>>
>>> Marvin Humphrey
>>>
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Re: Not just yet
Posted by Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>.
For the curious and conspiracy theorists :) let me complete the picture.
I did actually attend the board meeting as I usually do and the board
was gracious enough to give me a couple of minutes to correct the
resolution. Unfortunately, whimsy wouldn't save the corrected
resolution, for a reason I don't yet understand. I went a second round
with svn, but ran out of time.
Looks like I got the graduation gods really angry. This is not what a
podling should expect from an ASF member.
Hadrian
On 10/22/2015 07:03 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
> Ah ha. It wasn't clear from the original email this happened during the
> board meeting. Now I get it.
> On Oct 21, 2015 23:09, "Marvin Humphrey" <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 7:58 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think that's my point. Those two weeks should be used to get incubator
>>> approval. If you wait 4 weeks you don't graduate until December.
>>
>> The Incubator isn't going to vote again. The text of the graduation
>> resolution from an Incubator recommendation is advisory and the Board
>> often modifies it. (The Incubator gets the text wrong embarrassingly
>> often.) The Board passing a resolution to establish a TLP is the
>> crucial step from the standpoint of the Foundation as a corporate
>> entity.
>>
>> It's regrettable that the glitch was not caught until there was little
>> time left during today's meeting, but resolutions are powerful tools
>> and it's important to get the language right. The Foundation's bylaws
>> constrain the Board's ability to act -- it's not supposed to be easy.
>>
>> Marvin Humphrey
>>
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Re: Not just yet
Posted by Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>.
For the curious and conspiracy theorists :) let me complete the picture.
I did actually attend the board meeting as I usually do and the board
was gracious enough to give me a couple of minutes to correct the
resolution. Unfortunately, whimsy wouldn't save the corrected
resolution, for a reason I don't yet understand. I went a second round
with svn, but ran out of time.
Looks like I got the graduation gods really angry. This is not what a
podling should expect from an ASF member.
Hadrian
On 10/22/2015 07:03 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
> Ah ha. It wasn't clear from the original email this happened during the
> board meeting. Now I get it.
> On Oct 21, 2015 23:09, "Marvin Humphrey" <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 7:58 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think that's my point. Those two weeks should be used to get incubator
>>> approval. If you wait 4 weeks you don't graduate until December.
>>
>> The Incubator isn't going to vote again. The text of the graduation
>> resolution from an Incubator recommendation is advisory and the Board
>> often modifies it. (The Incubator gets the text wrong embarrassingly
>> often.) The Board passing a resolution to establish a TLP is the
>> crucial step from the standpoint of the Foundation as a corporate
>> entity.
>>
>> It's regrettable that the glitch was not caught until there was little
>> time left during today's meeting, but resolutions are powerful tools
>> and it's important to get the language right. The Foundation's bylaws
>> constrain the Board's ability to act -- it's not supposed to be easy.
>>
>> Marvin Humphrey
>>
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Re: Not just yet (was: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Brooklyn from incubator)
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
Indeed, if Hadrian had succeeded in editing during the meeting, it would
have been fixed right then. Murphy weighed in and we have a 4 week delay.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:03 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
wrote:
> Ah ha. It wasn't clear from the original email this happened during the
> board meeting. Now I get it.
> On Oct 21, 2015 23:09, "Marvin Humphrey" <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 7:58 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I think that's my point. Those two weeks should be used to get
> incubator
> > > approval. If you wait 4 weeks you don't graduate until December.
> >
> > The Incubator isn't going to vote again. The text of the graduation
> > resolution from an Incubator recommendation is advisory and the Board
> > often modifies it. (The Incubator gets the text wrong embarrassingly
> > often.) The Board passing a resolution to establish a TLP is the
> > crucial step from the standpoint of the Foundation as a corporate
> > entity.
> >
> > It's regrettable that the glitch was not caught until there was little
> > time left during today's meeting, but resolutions are powerful tools
> > and it's important to get the language right. The Foundation's bylaws
> > constrain the Board's ability to act -- it's not supposed to be easy.
> >
> > Marvin Humphrey
> >
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Re: Not just yet (was: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Brooklyn from incubator)
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
Ah ha. It wasn't clear from the original email this happened during the
board meeting. Now I get it.
On Oct 21, 2015 23:09, "Marvin Humphrey" <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 7:58 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > I think that's my point. Those two weeks should be used to get incubator
> > approval. If you wait 4 weeks you don't graduate until December.
>
> The Incubator isn't going to vote again. The text of the graduation
> resolution from an Incubator recommendation is advisory and the Board
> often modifies it. (The Incubator gets the text wrong embarrassingly
> often.) The Board passing a resolution to establish a TLP is the
> crucial step from the standpoint of the Foundation as a corporate
> entity.
>
> It's regrettable that the glitch was not caught until there was little
> time left during today's meeting, but resolutions are powerful tools
> and it's important to get the language right. The Foundation's bylaws
> constrain the Board's ability to act -- it's not supposed to be easy.
>
> Marvin Humphrey
>
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Re: Not just yet
Posted by Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Marvin,
I will post the amended resolution text today for review.
Hadrian
On 10/21/2015 11:09 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 7:58 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> I think that's my point. Those two weeks should be used to get incubator
>> approval. If you wait 4 weeks you don't graduate until December.
>
> The Incubator isn't going to vote again. The text of the graduation
> resolution from an Incubator recommendation is advisory and the Board
> often modifies it. (The Incubator gets the text wrong embarrassingly
> often.) The Board passing a resolution to establish a TLP is the
> crucial step from the standpoint of the Foundation as a corporate
> entity.
>
> It's regrettable that the glitch was not caught until there was little
> time left during today's meeting, but resolutions are powerful tools
> and it's important to get the language right. The Foundation's bylaws
> constrain the Board's ability to act -- it's not supposed to be easy.
>
> Marvin Humphrey
>
Re: Not just yet (was: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Brooklyn from incubator)
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
Ah ha. It wasn't clear from the original email this happened during the
board meeting. Now I get it.
On Oct 21, 2015 23:09, "Marvin Humphrey" <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 7:58 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > I think that's my point. Those two weeks should be used to get incubator
> > approval. If you wait 4 weeks you don't graduate until December.
>
> The Incubator isn't going to vote again. The text of the graduation
> resolution from an Incubator recommendation is advisory and the Board
> often modifies it. (The Incubator gets the text wrong embarrassingly
> often.) The Board passing a resolution to establish a TLP is the
> crucial step from the standpoint of the Foundation as a corporate
> entity.
>
> It's regrettable that the glitch was not caught until there was little
> time left during today's meeting, but resolutions are powerful tools
> and it's important to get the language right. The Foundation's bylaws
> constrain the Board's ability to act -- it's not supposed to be easy.
>
> Marvin Humphrey
>
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Re: Not just yet (was: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Brooklyn from incubator)
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 7:58 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> I think that's my point. Those two weeks should be used to get incubator
> approval. If you wait 4 weeks you don't graduate until December.
The Incubator isn't going to vote again. The text of the graduation
resolution from an Incubator recommendation is advisory and the Board
often modifies it. (The Incubator gets the text wrong embarrassingly
often.) The Board passing a resolution to establish a TLP is the
crucial step from the standpoint of the Foundation as a corporate
entity.
It's regrettable that the glitch was not caught until there was little
time left during today's meeting, but resolutions are powerful tools
and it's important to get the language right. The Foundation's bylaws
constrain the Board's ability to act -- it's not supposed to be easy.
Marvin Humphrey
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Re: Not just yet (was: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Brooklyn from incubator)
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 7:58 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> I think that's my point. Those two weeks should be used to get incubator
> approval. If you wait 4 weeks you don't graduate until December.
The Incubator isn't going to vote again. The text of the graduation
resolution from an Incubator recommendation is advisory and the Board
often modifies it. (The Incubator gets the text wrong embarrassingly
often.) The Board passing a resolution to establish a TLP is the
crucial step from the standpoint of the Foundation as a corporate
entity.
It's regrettable that the glitch was not caught until there was little
time left during today's meeting, but resolutions are powerful tools
and it's important to get the language right. The Foundation's bylaws
constrain the Board's ability to act -- it's not supposed to be easy.
Marvin Humphrey
Re: Not just yet (was: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Brooklyn from incubator)
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
On Oct 21, 2015 22:48, "Greg Stein" <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Several things: the description of the project in para 1 and 3 do not
> match. Second, the wording of the (current) last paragraph doesn't refer
to
> "podling" like other Incubator graduation resolutions. Third, the final
> paragraph from the template, releasing the Incubator from responsibility.
>
> See the Calcite resolution in this month's agenda.
>
> Regarding 4 weeks: a new agenda should be posted within a 1-2 weeks, and
I think that's my point. Those two weeks should be used to get incubator
approval. If you wait 4 weeks you don't graduate until December.
> the revised resolution can immediately be placed there. The Board will
vote
> on it during its Nov 18 meeting. (technically, if you can finagle all 9
> Directors to +1 the resolution before then, it passes on that 9th vote)
>
> Cheers,
> -g
>
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 9:43 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Any reason you need 4 weeks to add the paragraph back?
> > On Oct 21, 2015 21:09, "Hadrian Zbarcea" <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The resolution to graduate Apache Brooklyn out of the incubator was
> > tabled
> > > due to a procedural issue. This has nothing to do with the code or the
> > > community.
> > >
> > > The reason was an editorial error on my side, I used the wrong
template
> > > and the last paragraph releasing the incubator from its
responsibilities
> > > was missing from the resolution. It is unfortunate that nobody caught
> > that,
> > > but the error is completely mine.
> > >
> > > We will resubmit in 4 weeks.
> > >
> > > Million apologies,
> > > Hadrian
> > >
> > > On 10/01/2015 11:06 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
> > >
> > >> Vote passes with:
> > >>
> > >> +1 - 6 binding (ke4qqq, jbonofre, jzb, johndament, olamy, hadrian)
> > >> +1 - 2 non-binding
> > >> -1 - 0
> > >>
> > >> We will submit the proposal below to the board for approval
(including
> > >> jbonofre and olamy in the PMC).
> > >>
> > >> Many thanks again to our mentors and the incubator in general for the
> > >> guidance.
> > >>
> > >> Hadrian
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 09/28/2015 10:06 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> This is the Incubator vote to decide if Apache Brooklyn should
graduate
> > >>> from the Incubator. Please see the proposed resolution below.
> > >>>
> > >>> See also discuss thread [1]. Mentors were invited to join the future
> > TLP
> > >>> PMC on request. Invitation is open until this vote is closed.
> > >>>
> > >>> This vote is open for at least 72 hours.
> > >>>
> > >>> [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Brooklyn from the Incubator.
> > >>> [ ] +0 Don't care.
> > >>> [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache Brooklyn from the Incubator because ...
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Hadrian
> > >>>
> > >>> [1]
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201509.mbox/%3C5604323C.1010207%40gmail.com%3E
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ----------------------------------------
> > >>> X. Establish the Apache Brooklyn Project
> > >>>
> > >>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> > >>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> > >>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> > >>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> > >>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
> > >>> public, related to tools that help automate various
> > >>> administrative tasks or information lookup activities.
> > >>>
> > >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> > >>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Brooklyn
Project",
> > >>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> > >>> Foundation; and be it further
> > >>>
> > >>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Brooklyn Project be and hereby is
> > >>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
> > >>> framework for modeling, monitoring, and managing cloud
> > >>> applications through autonomic blueprints; and be it
further
> > >>>
> > >>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache
Brooklyn"
> > >>> be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> > >>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the
chair
> > >>> of the Apache Brooklyn Project, and to have primary
> > >>> responsibility for management of the projects within the
scope
> > >>> of responsibility of the Apache Brooklyn Project; and be it
> > >>> further
> > >>>
> > >>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> > >>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> > >>> Apache Brooklyn Project Management Committee:
> > >>>
> > >>> * Aled Sage <al...@apache.org>
> > >>> * Alex Heneveld <he...@apache.org>
> > >>> * Andrea Turli <an...@apache.org>
> > >>> * Andrew Kennedy <gr...@apache.org>
> > >>> * Ciprian Ciubotariu <ci...@apache.org>
> > >>> * Hadrian Zbarcea <ha...@apache.org>
> > >>> * Richard Downer <ri...@apache.org>
> > >>> * Sam Corbett <sj...@apache.org>
> > >>> * Svetoslav Neykov <sv...@apache.org>
> > >>>
> > >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Richard
Downer be
> > >>> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
Brooklyn, to
> > >>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of
the
> > >>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> > death,
> > >>> resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or
until
> > >>> a successor is appointed; and be it further
> > >>>
> > >>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Brooklyn Project be and
> > hereby
> > >>> is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> > >>> encourage open development and increased participation in
the
> > >>> Apache Brooklyn Project.
> > >>>
> > >>
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Re: Not just yet (was: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Brooklyn from incubator)
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
On Oct 21, 2015 22:48, "Greg Stein" <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Several things: the description of the project in para 1 and 3 do not
> match. Second, the wording of the (current) last paragraph doesn't refer
to
> "podling" like other Incubator graduation resolutions. Third, the final
> paragraph from the template, releasing the Incubator from responsibility.
>
> See the Calcite resolution in this month's agenda.
>
> Regarding 4 weeks: a new agenda should be posted within a 1-2 weeks, and
I think that's my point. Those two weeks should be used to get incubator
approval. If you wait 4 weeks you don't graduate until December.
> the revised resolution can immediately be placed there. The Board will
vote
> on it during its Nov 18 meeting. (technically, if you can finagle all 9
> Directors to +1 the resolution before then, it passes on that 9th vote)
>
> Cheers,
> -g
>
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 9:43 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Any reason you need 4 weeks to add the paragraph back?
> > On Oct 21, 2015 21:09, "Hadrian Zbarcea" <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The resolution to graduate Apache Brooklyn out of the incubator was
> > tabled
> > > due to a procedural issue. This has nothing to do with the code or the
> > > community.
> > >
> > > The reason was an editorial error on my side, I used the wrong
template
> > > and the last paragraph releasing the incubator from its
responsibilities
> > > was missing from the resolution. It is unfortunate that nobody caught
> > that,
> > > but the error is completely mine.
> > >
> > > We will resubmit in 4 weeks.
> > >
> > > Million apologies,
> > > Hadrian
> > >
> > > On 10/01/2015 11:06 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
> > >
> > >> Vote passes with:
> > >>
> > >> +1 - 6 binding (ke4qqq, jbonofre, jzb, johndament, olamy, hadrian)
> > >> +1 - 2 non-binding
> > >> -1 - 0
> > >>
> > >> We will submit the proposal below to the board for approval
(including
> > >> jbonofre and olamy in the PMC).
> > >>
> > >> Many thanks again to our mentors and the incubator in general for the
> > >> guidance.
> > >>
> > >> Hadrian
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 09/28/2015 10:06 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> This is the Incubator vote to decide if Apache Brooklyn should
graduate
> > >>> from the Incubator. Please see the proposed resolution below.
> > >>>
> > >>> See also discuss thread [1]. Mentors were invited to join the future
> > TLP
> > >>> PMC on request. Invitation is open until this vote is closed.
> > >>>
> > >>> This vote is open for at least 72 hours.
> > >>>
> > >>> [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Brooklyn from the Incubator.
> > >>> [ ] +0 Don't care.
> > >>> [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache Brooklyn from the Incubator because ...
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Hadrian
> > >>>
> > >>> [1]
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201509.mbox/%3C5604323C.1010207%40gmail.com%3E
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ----------------------------------------
> > >>> X. Establish the Apache Brooklyn Project
> > >>>
> > >>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> > >>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> > >>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> > >>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> > >>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
> > >>> public, related to tools that help automate various
> > >>> administrative tasks or information lookup activities.
> > >>>
> > >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> > >>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Brooklyn
Project",
> > >>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> > >>> Foundation; and be it further
> > >>>
> > >>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Brooklyn Project be and hereby is
> > >>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
> > >>> framework for modeling, monitoring, and managing cloud
> > >>> applications through autonomic blueprints; and be it
further
> > >>>
> > >>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache
Brooklyn"
> > >>> be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> > >>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the
chair
> > >>> of the Apache Brooklyn Project, and to have primary
> > >>> responsibility for management of the projects within the
scope
> > >>> of responsibility of the Apache Brooklyn Project; and be it
> > >>> further
> > >>>
> > >>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> > >>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> > >>> Apache Brooklyn Project Management Committee:
> > >>>
> > >>> * Aled Sage <al...@apache.org>
> > >>> * Alex Heneveld <he...@apache.org>
> > >>> * Andrea Turli <an...@apache.org>
> > >>> * Andrew Kennedy <gr...@apache.org>
> > >>> * Ciprian Ciubotariu <ci...@apache.org>
> > >>> * Hadrian Zbarcea <ha...@apache.org>
> > >>> * Richard Downer <ri...@apache.org>
> > >>> * Sam Corbett <sj...@apache.org>
> > >>> * Svetoslav Neykov <sv...@apache.org>
> > >>>
> > >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Richard
Downer be
> > >>> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
Brooklyn, to
> > >>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of
the
> > >>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> > death,
> > >>> resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or
until
> > >>> a successor is appointed; and be it further
> > >>>
> > >>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Brooklyn Project be and
> > hereby
> > >>> is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> > >>> encourage open development and increased participation in
the
> > >>> Apache Brooklyn Project.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> >
Re: Not just yet (was: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Brooklyn from incubator)
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>.
Several things: the description of the project in para 1 and 3 do not
match. Second, the wording of the (current) last paragraph doesn't refer to
"podling" like other Incubator graduation resolutions. Third, the final
paragraph from the template, releasing the Incubator from responsibility.
See the Calcite resolution in this month's agenda.
Regarding 4 weeks: a new agenda should be posted within a 1-2 weeks, and
the revised resolution can immediately be placed there. The Board will vote
on it during its Nov 18 meeting. (technically, if you can finagle all 9
Directors to +1 the resolution before then, it passes on that 9th vote)
Cheers,
-g
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 9:43 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
wrote:
> Any reason you need 4 weeks to add the paragraph back?
> On Oct 21, 2015 21:09, "Hadrian Zbarcea" <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The resolution to graduate Apache Brooklyn out of the incubator was
> tabled
> > due to a procedural issue. This has nothing to do with the code or the
> > community.
> >
> > The reason was an editorial error on my side, I used the wrong template
> > and the last paragraph releasing the incubator from its responsibilities
> > was missing from the resolution. It is unfortunate that nobody caught
> that,
> > but the error is completely mine.
> >
> > We will resubmit in 4 weeks.
> >
> > Million apologies,
> > Hadrian
> >
> > On 10/01/2015 11:06 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
> >
> >> Vote passes with:
> >>
> >> +1 - 6 binding (ke4qqq, jbonofre, jzb, johndament, olamy, hadrian)
> >> +1 - 2 non-binding
> >> -1 - 0
> >>
> >> We will submit the proposal below to the board for approval (including
> >> jbonofre and olamy in the PMC).
> >>
> >> Many thanks again to our mentors and the incubator in general for the
> >> guidance.
> >>
> >> Hadrian
> >>
> >>
> >> On 09/28/2015 10:06 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
> >>
> >>> This is the Incubator vote to decide if Apache Brooklyn should graduate
> >>> from the Incubator. Please see the proposed resolution below.
> >>>
> >>> See also discuss thread [1]. Mentors were invited to join the future
> TLP
> >>> PMC on request. Invitation is open until this vote is closed.
> >>>
> >>> This vote is open for at least 72 hours.
> >>>
> >>> [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Brooklyn from the Incubator.
> >>> [ ] +0 Don't care.
> >>> [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache Brooklyn from the Incubator because ...
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Hadrian
> >>>
> >>> [1]
> >>>
> >>>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201509.mbox/%3C5604323C.1010207%40gmail.com%3E
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----------------------------------------
> >>> X. Establish the Apache Brooklyn Project
> >>>
> >>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> >>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> >>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> >>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> >>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
> >>> public, related to tools that help automate various
> >>> administrative tasks or information lookup activities.
> >>>
> >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> >>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Brooklyn Project",
> >>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> >>> Foundation; and be it further
> >>>
> >>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Brooklyn Project be and hereby is
> >>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
> >>> framework for modeling, monitoring, and managing cloud
> >>> applications through autonomic blueprints; and be it further
> >>>
> >>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Brooklyn"
> >>> be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> >>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> >>> of the Apache Brooklyn Project, and to have primary
> >>> responsibility for management of the projects within the scope
> >>> of responsibility of the Apache Brooklyn Project; and be it
> >>> further
> >>>
> >>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> >>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> >>> Apache Brooklyn Project Management Committee:
> >>>
> >>> * Aled Sage <al...@apache.org>
> >>> * Alex Heneveld <he...@apache.org>
> >>> * Andrea Turli <an...@apache.org>
> >>> * Andrew Kennedy <gr...@apache.org>
> >>> * Ciprian Ciubotariu <ci...@apache.org>
> >>> * Hadrian Zbarcea <ha...@apache.org>
> >>> * Richard Downer <ri...@apache.org>
> >>> * Sam Corbett <sj...@apache.org>
> >>> * Svetoslav Neykov <sv...@apache.org>
> >>>
> >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Richard Downer be
> >>> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Brooklyn, to
> >>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> >>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death,
> >>> resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until
> >>> a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >>>
> >>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Brooklyn Project be and
> hereby
> >>> is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> >>> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> >>> Apache Brooklyn Project.
> >>>
> >>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> >
>
Re: Not just yet (was: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Brooklyn from incubator)
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:43 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> Any reason you need 4 weeks to add the paragraph back?..
4 weeks is to get the board to vote on the resolution - our meeting
was yesterday and the next one is on November 18.
As Hadrian says, It is unfortunate that nobody caught that, we noticed
the issue right when we were about to vote on it and there was no time
to properly fix that during the board meeting.
-Bertrand
Re: Not just yet (was: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Brooklyn from incubator)
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>.
Several things: the description of the project in para 1 and 3 do not
match. Second, the wording of the (current) last paragraph doesn't refer to
"podling" like other Incubator graduation resolutions. Third, the final
paragraph from the template, releasing the Incubator from responsibility.
See the Calcite resolution in this month's agenda.
Regarding 4 weeks: a new agenda should be posted within a 1-2 weeks, and
the revised resolution can immediately be placed there. The Board will vote
on it during its Nov 18 meeting. (technically, if you can finagle all 9
Directors to +1 the resolution before then, it passes on that 9th vote)
Cheers,
-g
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 9:43 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
wrote:
> Any reason you need 4 weeks to add the paragraph back?
> On Oct 21, 2015 21:09, "Hadrian Zbarcea" <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The resolution to graduate Apache Brooklyn out of the incubator was
> tabled
> > due to a procedural issue. This has nothing to do with the code or the
> > community.
> >
> > The reason was an editorial error on my side, I used the wrong template
> > and the last paragraph releasing the incubator from its responsibilities
> > was missing from the resolution. It is unfortunate that nobody caught
> that,
> > but the error is completely mine.
> >
> > We will resubmit in 4 weeks.
> >
> > Million apologies,
> > Hadrian
> >
> > On 10/01/2015 11:06 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
> >
> >> Vote passes with:
> >>
> >> +1 - 6 binding (ke4qqq, jbonofre, jzb, johndament, olamy, hadrian)
> >> +1 - 2 non-binding
> >> -1 - 0
> >>
> >> We will submit the proposal below to the board for approval (including
> >> jbonofre and olamy in the PMC).
> >>
> >> Many thanks again to our mentors and the incubator in general for the
> >> guidance.
> >>
> >> Hadrian
> >>
> >>
> >> On 09/28/2015 10:06 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
> >>
> >>> This is the Incubator vote to decide if Apache Brooklyn should graduate
> >>> from the Incubator. Please see the proposed resolution below.
> >>>
> >>> See also discuss thread [1]. Mentors were invited to join the future
> TLP
> >>> PMC on request. Invitation is open until this vote is closed.
> >>>
> >>> This vote is open for at least 72 hours.
> >>>
> >>> [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Brooklyn from the Incubator.
> >>> [ ] +0 Don't care.
> >>> [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache Brooklyn from the Incubator because ...
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Hadrian
> >>>
> >>> [1]
> >>>
> >>>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201509.mbox/%3C5604323C.1010207%40gmail.com%3E
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----------------------------------------
> >>> X. Establish the Apache Brooklyn Project
> >>>
> >>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> >>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> >>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> >>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> >>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
> >>> public, related to tools that help automate various
> >>> administrative tasks or information lookup activities.
> >>>
> >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> >>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Brooklyn Project",
> >>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> >>> Foundation; and be it further
> >>>
> >>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Brooklyn Project be and hereby is
> >>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
> >>> framework for modeling, monitoring, and managing cloud
> >>> applications through autonomic blueprints; and be it further
> >>>
> >>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Brooklyn"
> >>> be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> >>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> >>> of the Apache Brooklyn Project, and to have primary
> >>> responsibility for management of the projects within the scope
> >>> of responsibility of the Apache Brooklyn Project; and be it
> >>> further
> >>>
> >>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> >>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> >>> Apache Brooklyn Project Management Committee:
> >>>
> >>> * Aled Sage <al...@apache.org>
> >>> * Alex Heneveld <he...@apache.org>
> >>> * Andrea Turli <an...@apache.org>
> >>> * Andrew Kennedy <gr...@apache.org>
> >>> * Ciprian Ciubotariu <ci...@apache.org>
> >>> * Hadrian Zbarcea <ha...@apache.org>
> >>> * Richard Downer <ri...@apache.org>
> >>> * Sam Corbett <sj...@apache.org>
> >>> * Svetoslav Neykov <sv...@apache.org>
> >>>
> >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Richard Downer be
> >>> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Brooklyn, to
> >>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> >>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death,
> >>> resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until
> >>> a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >>>
> >>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Brooklyn Project be and
> hereby
> >>> is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> >>> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> >>> Apache Brooklyn Project.
> >>>
> >>
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> >
> >
>
Re: Not just yet (was: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Brooklyn from incubator)
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:43 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> Any reason you need 4 weeks to add the paragraph back?..
4 weeks is to get the board to vote on the resolution - our meeting
was yesterday and the next one is on November 18.
As Hadrian says, It is unfortunate that nobody caught that, we noticed
the issue right when we were about to vote on it and there was no time
to properly fix that during the board meeting.
-Bertrand
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Re: Not just yet (was: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Brooklyn from incubator)
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
Any reason you need 4 weeks to add the paragraph back?
On Oct 21, 2015 21:09, "Hadrian Zbarcea" <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The resolution to graduate Apache Brooklyn out of the incubator was tabled
> due to a procedural issue. This has nothing to do with the code or the
> community.
>
> The reason was an editorial error on my side, I used the wrong template
> and the last paragraph releasing the incubator from its responsibilities
> was missing from the resolution. It is unfortunate that nobody caught that,
> but the error is completely mine.
>
> We will resubmit in 4 weeks.
>
> Million apologies,
> Hadrian
>
> On 10/01/2015 11:06 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
>
>> Vote passes with:
>>
>> +1 - 6 binding (ke4qqq, jbonofre, jzb, johndament, olamy, hadrian)
>> +1 - 2 non-binding
>> -1 - 0
>>
>> We will submit the proposal below to the board for approval (including
>> jbonofre and olamy in the PMC).
>>
>> Many thanks again to our mentors and the incubator in general for the
>> guidance.
>>
>> Hadrian
>>
>>
>> On 09/28/2015 10:06 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
>>
>>> This is the Incubator vote to decide if Apache Brooklyn should graduate
>>> from the Incubator. Please see the proposed resolution below.
>>>
>>> See also discuss thread [1]. Mentors were invited to join the future TLP
>>> PMC on request. Invitation is open until this vote is closed.
>>>
>>> This vote is open for at least 72 hours.
>>>
>>> [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Brooklyn from the Incubator.
>>> [ ] +0 Don't care.
>>> [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache Brooklyn from the Incubator because ...
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Hadrian
>>>
>>> [1]
>>>
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201509.mbox/%3C5604323C.1010207%40gmail.com%3E
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------
>>> X. Establish the Apache Brooklyn Project
>>>
>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
>>> public, related to tools that help automate various
>>> administrative tasks or information lookup activities.
>>>
>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Brooklyn Project",
>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>>> Foundation; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Brooklyn Project be and hereby is
>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
>>> framework for modeling, monitoring, and managing cloud
>>> applications through autonomic blueprints; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Brooklyn"
>>> be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>>> of the Apache Brooklyn Project, and to have primary
>>> responsibility for management of the projects within the scope
>>> of responsibility of the Apache Brooklyn Project; and be it
>>> further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>>> Apache Brooklyn Project Management Committee:
>>>
>>> * Aled Sage <al...@apache.org>
>>> * Alex Heneveld <he...@apache.org>
>>> * Andrea Turli <an...@apache.org>
>>> * Andrew Kennedy <gr...@apache.org>
>>> * Ciprian Ciubotariu <ci...@apache.org>
>>> * Hadrian Zbarcea <ha...@apache.org>
>>> * Richard Downer <ri...@apache.org>
>>> * Sam Corbett <sj...@apache.org>
>>> * Svetoslav Neykov <sv...@apache.org>
>>>
>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Richard Downer be
>>> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Brooklyn, to
>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
>>> resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until
>>> a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Brooklyn Project be and hereby
>>> is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>>> encourage open development and increased participation in the
>>> Apache Brooklyn Project.
>>>
>>
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Re: Not just yet (was: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Brooklyn from incubator)
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
Any reason you need 4 weeks to add the paragraph back?
On Oct 21, 2015 21:09, "Hadrian Zbarcea" <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The resolution to graduate Apache Brooklyn out of the incubator was tabled
> due to a procedural issue. This has nothing to do with the code or the
> community.
>
> The reason was an editorial error on my side, I used the wrong template
> and the last paragraph releasing the incubator from its responsibilities
> was missing from the resolution. It is unfortunate that nobody caught that,
> but the error is completely mine.
>
> We will resubmit in 4 weeks.
>
> Million apologies,
> Hadrian
>
> On 10/01/2015 11:06 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
>
>> Vote passes with:
>>
>> +1 - 6 binding (ke4qqq, jbonofre, jzb, johndament, olamy, hadrian)
>> +1 - 2 non-binding
>> -1 - 0
>>
>> We will submit the proposal below to the board for approval (including
>> jbonofre and olamy in the PMC).
>>
>> Many thanks again to our mentors and the incubator in general for the
>> guidance.
>>
>> Hadrian
>>
>>
>> On 09/28/2015 10:06 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
>>
>>> This is the Incubator vote to decide if Apache Brooklyn should graduate
>>> from the Incubator. Please see the proposed resolution below.
>>>
>>> See also discuss thread [1]. Mentors were invited to join the future TLP
>>> PMC on request. Invitation is open until this vote is closed.
>>>
>>> This vote is open for at least 72 hours.
>>>
>>> [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Brooklyn from the Incubator.
>>> [ ] +0 Don't care.
>>> [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache Brooklyn from the Incubator because ...
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Hadrian
>>>
>>> [1]
>>>
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201509.mbox/%3C5604323C.1010207%40gmail.com%3E
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------
>>> X. Establish the Apache Brooklyn Project
>>>
>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
>>> public, related to tools that help automate various
>>> administrative tasks or information lookup activities.
>>>
>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Brooklyn Project",
>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>>> Foundation; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Brooklyn Project be and hereby is
>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
>>> framework for modeling, monitoring, and managing cloud
>>> applications through autonomic blueprints; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Brooklyn"
>>> be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>>> of the Apache Brooklyn Project, and to have primary
>>> responsibility for management of the projects within the scope
>>> of responsibility of the Apache Brooklyn Project; and be it
>>> further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>>> Apache Brooklyn Project Management Committee:
>>>
>>> * Aled Sage <al...@apache.org>
>>> * Alex Heneveld <he...@apache.org>
>>> * Andrea Turli <an...@apache.org>
>>> * Andrew Kennedy <gr...@apache.org>
>>> * Ciprian Ciubotariu <ci...@apache.org>
>>> * Hadrian Zbarcea <ha...@apache.org>
>>> * Richard Downer <ri...@apache.org>
>>> * Sam Corbett <sj...@apache.org>
>>> * Svetoslav Neykov <sv...@apache.org>
>>>
>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Richard Downer be
>>> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Brooklyn, to
>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
>>> resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until
>>> a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Brooklyn Project be and hereby
>>> is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>>> encourage open development and increased participation in the
>>> Apache Brooklyn Project.
>>>
>>
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Not just yet (was: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Brooklyn from incubator)
Posted by Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>.
The resolution to graduate Apache Brooklyn out of the incubator was
tabled due to a procedural issue. This has nothing to do with the code
or the community.
The reason was an editorial error on my side, I used the wrong template
and the last paragraph releasing the incubator from its responsibilities
was missing from the resolution. It is unfortunate that nobody caught
that, but the error is completely mine.
We will resubmit in 4 weeks.
Million apologies,
Hadrian
On 10/01/2015 11:06 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
> Vote passes with:
>
> +1 - 6 binding (ke4qqq, jbonofre, jzb, johndament, olamy, hadrian)
> +1 - 2 non-binding
> -1 - 0
>
> We will submit the proposal below to the board for approval (including
> jbonofre and olamy in the PMC).
>
> Many thanks again to our mentors and the incubator in general for the
> guidance.
>
> Hadrian
>
>
> On 09/28/2015 10:06 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
>> This is the Incubator vote to decide if Apache Brooklyn should graduate
>> from the Incubator. Please see the proposed resolution below.
>>
>> See also discuss thread [1]. Mentors were invited to join the future TLP
>> PMC on request. Invitation is open until this vote is closed.
>>
>> This vote is open for at least 72 hours.
>>
>> [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Brooklyn from the Incubator.
>> [ ] +0 Don't care.
>> [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache Brooklyn from the Incubator because ...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Hadrian
>>
>> [1]
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201509.mbox/%3C5604323C.1010207%40gmail.com%3E
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>> X. Establish the Apache Brooklyn Project
>>
>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
>> public, related to tools that help automate various
>> administrative tasks or information lookup activities.
>>
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Brooklyn Project",
>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>> Foundation; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Brooklyn Project be and hereby is
>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
>> framework for modeling, monitoring, and managing cloud
>> applications through autonomic blueprints; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Brooklyn"
>> be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>> of the Apache Brooklyn Project, and to have primary
>> responsibility for management of the projects within the scope
>> of responsibility of the Apache Brooklyn Project; and be it
>> further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>> Apache Brooklyn Project Management Committee:
>>
>> * Aled Sage <al...@apache.org>
>> * Alex Heneveld <he...@apache.org>
>> * Andrea Turli <an...@apache.org>
>> * Andrew Kennedy <gr...@apache.org>
>> * Ciprian Ciubotariu <ci...@apache.org>
>> * Hadrian Zbarcea <ha...@apache.org>
>> * Richard Downer <ri...@apache.org>
>> * Sam Corbett <sj...@apache.org>
>> * Svetoslav Neykov <sv...@apache.org>
>>
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Richard Downer be
>> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Brooklyn, to
>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
>> resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until
>> a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Brooklyn Project be and hereby
>> is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>> encourage open development and increased participation in the
>> Apache Brooklyn Project.
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache Brooklyn from incubator
Posted by Alex Heneveld <al...@cloudsoftcorp.com>.
Brilliant news. Thank you mentors, Hadrian, committers and all our
contributors.
It is awesome to see an idea hashed out in some chats at Gluecon years
ago come to this!
Jean-Baptiste and Oliver thank you too for agreeing to join the PMC.
Best
Alex
On 01/10/2015 16:06, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
> Vote passes with:
>
> +1 - 6 binding (ke4qqq, jbonofre, jzb, johndament, olamy, hadrian)
> +1 - 2 non-binding
> -1 - 0
>
> We will submit the proposal below to the board for approval (including
> jbonofre and olamy in the PMC).
>
> Many thanks again to our mentors and the incubator in general for the
> guidance.
>
> Hadrian
>
>
> On 09/28/2015 10:06 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
>> This is the Incubator vote to decide if Apache Brooklyn should graduate
>> from the Incubator. Please see the proposed resolution below.
>>
>> See also discuss thread [1]. Mentors were invited to join the future TLP
>> PMC on request. Invitation is open until this vote is closed.
>>
>> This vote is open for at least 72 hours.
>>
>> [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Brooklyn from the Incubator.
>> [ ] +0 Don't care.
>> [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache Brooklyn from the Incubator because ...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Hadrian
>>
>> [1]
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201509.mbox/%3C5604323C.1010207%40gmail.com%3E
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>> X. Establish the Apache Brooklyn Project
>>
>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
>> public, related to tools that help automate various
>> administrative tasks or information lookup activities.
>>
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Brooklyn Project",
>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>> Foundation; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Brooklyn Project be and hereby is
>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
>> framework for modeling, monitoring, and managing cloud
>> applications through autonomic blueprints; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Brooklyn"
>> be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>> of the Apache Brooklyn Project, and to have primary
>> responsibility for management of the projects within the scope
>> of responsibility of the Apache Brooklyn Project; and be it
>> further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>> Apache Brooklyn Project Management Committee:
>>
>> * Aled Sage <al...@apache.org>
>> * Alex Heneveld <he...@apache.org>
>> * Andrea Turli <an...@apache.org>
>> * Andrew Kennedy <gr...@apache.org>
>> * Ciprian Ciubotariu <ci...@apache.org>
>> * Hadrian Zbarcea <ha...@apache.org>
>> * Richard Downer <ri...@apache.org>
>> * Sam Corbett <sj...@apache.org>
>> * Svetoslav Neykov <sv...@apache.org>
>>
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Richard Downer be
>> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Brooklyn, to
>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
>> death,
>> resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until
>> a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Brooklyn Project be and
>> hereby
>> is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>> encourage open development and increased participation in the
>> Apache Brooklyn Project.
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Not just yet (was: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Brooklyn from incubator)
Posted by Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>.
The resolution to graduate Apache Brooklyn out of the incubator was
tabled due to a procedural issue. This has nothing to do with the code
or the community.
The reason was an editorial error on my side, I used the wrong template
and the last paragraph releasing the incubator from its responsibilities
was missing from the resolution. It is unfortunate that nobody caught
that, but the error is completely mine.
We will resubmit in 4 weeks.
Million apologies,
Hadrian
On 10/01/2015 11:06 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
> Vote passes with:
>
> +1 - 6 binding (ke4qqq, jbonofre, jzb, johndament, olamy, hadrian)
> +1 - 2 non-binding
> -1 - 0
>
> We will submit the proposal below to the board for approval (including
> jbonofre and olamy in the PMC).
>
> Many thanks again to our mentors and the incubator in general for the
> guidance.
>
> Hadrian
>
>
> On 09/28/2015 10:06 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
>> This is the Incubator vote to decide if Apache Brooklyn should graduate
>> from the Incubator. Please see the proposed resolution below.
>>
>> See also discuss thread [1]. Mentors were invited to join the future TLP
>> PMC on request. Invitation is open until this vote is closed.
>>
>> This vote is open for at least 72 hours.
>>
>> [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Brooklyn from the Incubator.
>> [ ] +0 Don't care.
>> [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache Brooklyn from the Incubator because ...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Hadrian
>>
>> [1]
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201509.mbox/%3C5604323C.1010207%40gmail.com%3E
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>> X. Establish the Apache Brooklyn Project
>>
>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
>> public, related to tools that help automate various
>> administrative tasks or information lookup activities.
>>
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Brooklyn Project",
>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>> Foundation; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Brooklyn Project be and hereby is
>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
>> framework for modeling, monitoring, and managing cloud
>> applications through autonomic blueprints; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Brooklyn"
>> be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>> of the Apache Brooklyn Project, and to have primary
>> responsibility for management of the projects within the scope
>> of responsibility of the Apache Brooklyn Project; and be it
>> further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>> Apache Brooklyn Project Management Committee:
>>
>> * Aled Sage <al...@apache.org>
>> * Alex Heneveld <he...@apache.org>
>> * Andrea Turli <an...@apache.org>
>> * Andrew Kennedy <gr...@apache.org>
>> * Ciprian Ciubotariu <ci...@apache.org>
>> * Hadrian Zbarcea <ha...@apache.org>
>> * Richard Downer <ri...@apache.org>
>> * Sam Corbett <sj...@apache.org>
>> * Svetoslav Neykov <sv...@apache.org>
>>
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Richard Downer be
>> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Brooklyn, to
>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
>> resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until
>> a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Brooklyn Project be and hereby
>> is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>> encourage open development and increased participation in the
>> Apache Brooklyn Project.
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache Brooklyn from incubator (corrected)
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
The changes look good to me. Safe travels.
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 7:23 PM Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Please find below the corrected version of the proposed resolution:
> * corrected first paragraph to agree with the 3rd
> * added last paragraph (releasing incubator)
> * corrected before last paragraph (migration task)
>
> Since I am getting paranoid, a nod from other pairs of eyes would be
> highly appreciated.
>
> Looking forward to an uneventful graduation,
> Hadrian
>
>
> X. Establish the Apache Brooklyn Project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
> public, related to a software framework for modeling,
> monitoring and managing cloud applications through autonomic
> blueprints.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Brooklyn Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Brooklyn Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
> framework for modeling, monitoring and managing cloud
> applications through autonomic blueprints; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Brooklyn"
> be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache Brooklyn Project, and to have primary
> responsibility for management of the projects within the scope
> of responsibility of the Apache Brooklyn Project; and be it
> further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache Brooklyn Project Management Committee:
>
> * Aled Sage <al...@apache.org>
> * Alex Heneveld <he...@apache.org>
> * Andrea Turli <an...@apache.org>
> * Andrew Kennedy <gr...@apache.org>
> * Ciprian Ciubotariu <ci...@apache.org>
> * Hadrian Zbarcea <ha...@apache.org>
> * Richard Downer <ri...@apache.org>
> * Sam Corbett <sj...@apache.org>
> * Svetoslav Neykov <sv...@apache.org>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Richard Downer be
> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Brooklyn, to
> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
> resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until
> a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Brooklyn Project be and hereby is
> tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator Brooklyn podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator Brooklyn podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> Project are hereafter discharged.
>
>
>
> On 10/01/2015 11:06 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
> > Vote passes with:
> >
> > +1 - 6 binding (ke4qqq, jbonofre, jzb, johndament, olamy, hadrian)
> > +1 - 2 non-binding
> > -1 - 0
> >
> > We will submit the proposal below to the board for approval (including
> > jbonofre and olamy in the PMC).
> >
> > Many thanks again to our mentors and the incubator in general for the
> > guidance.
> >
> > Hadrian
> >
> >
>
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache Brooklyn from incubator (corrected)
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
The changes look good to me. Safe travels.
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 7:23 PM Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Please find below the corrected version of the proposed resolution:
> * corrected first paragraph to agree with the 3rd
> * added last paragraph (releasing incubator)
> * corrected before last paragraph (migration task)
>
> Since I am getting paranoid, a nod from other pairs of eyes would be
> highly appreciated.
>
> Looking forward to an uneventful graduation,
> Hadrian
>
>
> X. Establish the Apache Brooklyn Project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
> public, related to a software framework for modeling,
> monitoring and managing cloud applications through autonomic
> blueprints.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Brooklyn Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Brooklyn Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
> framework for modeling, monitoring and managing cloud
> applications through autonomic blueprints; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Brooklyn"
> be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache Brooklyn Project, and to have primary
> responsibility for management of the projects within the scope
> of responsibility of the Apache Brooklyn Project; and be it
> further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache Brooklyn Project Management Committee:
>
> * Aled Sage <al...@apache.org>
> * Alex Heneveld <he...@apache.org>
> * Andrea Turli <an...@apache.org>
> * Andrew Kennedy <gr...@apache.org>
> * Ciprian Ciubotariu <ci...@apache.org>
> * Hadrian Zbarcea <ha...@apache.org>
> * Richard Downer <ri...@apache.org>
> * Sam Corbett <sj...@apache.org>
> * Svetoslav Neykov <sv...@apache.org>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Richard Downer be
> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Brooklyn, to
> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
> resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until
> a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Brooklyn Project be and hereby is
> tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator Brooklyn podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator Brooklyn podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> Project are hereafter discharged.
>
>
>
> On 10/01/2015 11:06 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
> > Vote passes with:
> >
> > +1 - 6 binding (ke4qqq, jbonofre, jzb, johndament, olamy, hadrian)
> > +1 - 2 non-binding
> > -1 - 0
> >
> > We will submit the proposal below to the board for approval (including
> > jbonofre and olamy in the PMC).
> >
> > Many thanks again to our mentors and the incubator in general for the
> > guidance.
> >
> > Hadrian
> >
> >
>
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache Brooklyn from incubator
(corrected)
Posted by Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>.
Please find below the corrected version of the proposed resolution:
* corrected first paragraph to agree with the 3rd
* added last paragraph (releasing incubator)
* corrected before last paragraph (migration task)
Since I am getting paranoid, a nod from other pairs of eyes would be
highly appreciated.
Looking forward to an uneventful graduation,
Hadrian
X. Establish the Apache Brooklyn Project
WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
public, related to a software framework for modeling,
monitoring and managing cloud applications through autonomic
blueprints.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Brooklyn Project",
be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
Foundation; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Apache Brooklyn Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
framework for modeling, monitoring and managing cloud
applications through autonomic blueprints; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Brooklyn"
be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
of the Apache Brooklyn Project, and to have primary
responsibility for management of the projects within the scope
of responsibility of the Apache Brooklyn Project; and be it
further
RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
Apache Brooklyn Project Management Committee:
* Aled Sage <al...@apache.org>
* Alex Heneveld <he...@apache.org>
* Andrea Turli <an...@apache.org>
* Andrew Kennedy <gr...@apache.org>
* Ciprian Ciubotariu <ci...@apache.org>
* Hadrian Zbarcea <ha...@apache.org>
* Richard Downer <ri...@apache.org>
* Sam Corbett <sj...@apache.org>
* Svetoslav Neykov <sv...@apache.org>
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Richard Downer be
appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Brooklyn, to
serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until
a successor is appointed; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Apache Brooklyn Project be and hereby is
tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
Incubator Brooklyn podling; and be it further
RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
Incubator Brooklyn podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
Project are hereafter discharged.
On 10/01/2015 11:06 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
> Vote passes with:
>
> +1 - 6 binding (ke4qqq, jbonofre, jzb, johndament, olamy, hadrian)
> +1 - 2 non-binding
> -1 - 0
>
> We will submit the proposal below to the board for approval (including
> jbonofre and olamy in the PMC).
>
> Many thanks again to our mentors and the incubator in general for the
> guidance.
>
> Hadrian
>
>
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache Brooklyn from incubator
(corrected)
Posted by Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>.
Please find below the corrected version of the proposed resolution:
* corrected first paragraph to agree with the 3rd
* added last paragraph (releasing incubator)
* corrected before last paragraph (migration task)
Since I am getting paranoid, a nod from other pairs of eyes would be
highly appreciated.
Looking forward to an uneventful graduation,
Hadrian
X. Establish the Apache Brooklyn Project
WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
public, related to a software framework for modeling,
monitoring and managing cloud applications through autonomic
blueprints.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Brooklyn Project",
be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
Foundation; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Apache Brooklyn Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
framework for modeling, monitoring and managing cloud
applications through autonomic blueprints; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Brooklyn"
be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
of the Apache Brooklyn Project, and to have primary
responsibility for management of the projects within the scope
of responsibility of the Apache Brooklyn Project; and be it
further
RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
Apache Brooklyn Project Management Committee:
* Aled Sage <al...@apache.org>
* Alex Heneveld <he...@apache.org>
* Andrea Turli <an...@apache.org>
* Andrew Kennedy <gr...@apache.org>
* Ciprian Ciubotariu <ci...@apache.org>
* Hadrian Zbarcea <ha...@apache.org>
* Richard Downer <ri...@apache.org>
* Sam Corbett <sj...@apache.org>
* Svetoslav Neykov <sv...@apache.org>
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Richard Downer be
appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Brooklyn, to
serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until
a successor is appointed; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Apache Brooklyn Project be and hereby is
tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
Incubator Brooklyn podling; and be it further
RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
Incubator Brooklyn podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
Project are hereafter discharged.
On 10/01/2015 11:06 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
> Vote passes with:
>
> +1 - 6 binding (ke4qqq, jbonofre, jzb, johndament, olamy, hadrian)
> +1 - 2 non-binding
> -1 - 0
>
> We will submit the proposal below to the board for approval (including
> jbonofre and olamy in the PMC).
>
> Many thanks again to our mentors and the incubator in general for the
> guidance.
>
> Hadrian
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>