Re: [VOTE] Drop Java 6 Support in Jena

[Claude Warren <cl...@xenei.com>]

What are the Semantic Versioning rules?


On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes <
soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:

> +1, but only from 2.12.0
>
> Please try to follow Semantic Versioning rules. Nobody would expect a patch
> update to suddenly not work with the same java version.
> On 29 Apr 2014 09:37, "Rob Vesse" <rv...@dotnetrdf.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi All
> >
> > This is a vote on whether to drop Java 6 support in future Jena releases
> > since Java 6 has officially
> >
> > The Jena team is planning to make a final Java 6 supporting release as
> our
> > next release (2.11.2) and then all subsequent releases will be Java 7
> > (2.12.0 onwards)
> >
> > Everyone in the community is welcome to vote, if you have an objection to
> > this decision please explain why dropping Java 6 support would cause you
> > problems
> >
> > Please vote to approve this change:
> >
> >      [ ] +1 Approve dropping of Java 6 support after the next release
> >      [ ]  0 Don't care
> >      [ ] -1 Keep Java 6 support, because ...
> >
> > This vote will be open to the end of
> >
> >     Friday, 2nd May 2014, 23:59 UTC
> >
> > (72 hours from the same hour tonight UTC).
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> >
>



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Re: [VOTE] Drop Java 6 Support in Jena

[Stian Soiland-Reyes <so...@cs.manchester.ac.uk>]

Sorry, I misunderstood your earlier email and thought you meant that the
next *patch* version would be requiring Java 7.

It is fair enough with new minor version for that, I would not champion a
strict interpretation of semver where the major is bumped for almost any
change!
On 1 May 2014 16:09, "Andy Seaborne" <an...@apache.org> wrote:

> On 01/05/14 15:53, Damian Steer wrote:
>
>>
>> On 1 May 2014, at 15:51, Claude Warren <cl...@xenei.com> wrote:
>>
>>  What are the Semantic Versioning rules?
>>>
>>
>> <http://semver.org>
>>
>> (I assume this is the canonical source)
>>
>> Damian
>>
>>
> which seems to be about the thing itself (the public API. which we are not
> changing).  Nearest I found is:
>
> [[
> What should I do if I update my own dependencies without changing the
> public API?
>
> That would be considered compatible since it does not affect the public
> API. Software that explicitly depends on the same dependencies as your
> package should have their own dependency specifications and the author will
> notice any conflicts. Determining whether the change is a patch level or
> minor level modification depends on whether you updated your dependencies
> in order to fix a bug or introduce new functionality. I would usually
> expect additional code for the latter instance, in which case it's
> obviously a minor level increment.
> ]]
>
> but really the semver isn't just Java so this pushing a corner case IMO.
>
>         Andy
>
>

Re: [VOTE] Drop Java 6 Support in Jena

[Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org>]

On 01/05/14 15:53, Damian Steer wrote:
>
> On 1 May 2014, at 15:51, Claude Warren <cl...@xenei.com> wrote:
>
>> What are the Semantic Versioning rules?
>
> <http://semver.org>
>
> (I assume this is the canonical source)
>
> Damian
>

which seems to be about the thing itself (the public API. which we are 
not changing).  Nearest I found is:

[[
What should I do if I update my own dependencies without changing the 
public API?

That would be considered compatible since it does not affect the public 
API. Software that explicitly depends on the same dependencies as your 
package should have their own dependency specifications and the author 
will notice any conflicts. Determining whether the change is a patch 
level or minor level modification depends on whether you updated your 
dependencies in order to fix a bug or introduce new functionality. I 
would usually expect additional code for the latter instance, in which 
case it's obviously a minor level increment.
]]

but really the semver isn't just Java so this pushing a corner case IMO.

	Andy

Re: [VOTE] Drop Java 6 Support in Jena

[Damian Steer <d....@bris.ac.uk>]

On 1 May 2014, at 15:51, Claude Warren <cl...@xenei.com> wrote:

> What are the Semantic Versioning rules?

<http://semver.org>

(I assume this is the canonical source)

Damian