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Posted to docs@httpd.apache.org by Joshua Slive <jo...@slive.ca> on 2001/11/15 23:23:12 UTC
pdf of docs
There was a rather old pdf of the docs in the dist/httpd/ directory. I
moved it to old, because it is really too out of date to be useful and I
received a complaint about it in the bug database. I don't think we have
any method of creating a decent pdf version of the docs.
Joshua.
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Re: pdf of docs
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 08:28:44AM -0500, Rich Bowen wrote:
> > > - Whatever is happening around page 101 isn't nice.
> >
> > You need to be more specific, as I don't know what you're seeing.
>
> The formatting for the directives is all bunched together on the
> left hand side. It's very odd.
>
> > > - Is this Apache 2.0 or 1.3? I saw a note in there about Apache
> > > 2.0?
> >
> > These are the 1.3 docs, as currently in CVS.
>
> I wouldn't have expected that the 1.3 docs would have info on
> 2.0. =) -- justin
I know that there are some mentions of it, as in what to expect in the
future. Where specifically did you see them?
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Re: pdf of docs
Posted by Justin Erenkrantz <je...@ebuilt.com>.
On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 08:28:44AM -0500, Rich Bowen wrote:
> > - Whatever is happening around page 101 isn't nice.
>
> You need to be more specific, as I don't know what you're seeing.
The formatting for the directives is all bunched together on the
left hand side. It's very odd.
> > - Is this Apache 2.0 or 1.3? I saw a note in there about Apache
> > 2.0?
>
> These are the 1.3 docs, as currently in CVS.
I wouldn't have expected that the 1.3 docs would have info on
2.0. =) -- justin
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Re: pdf of docs
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
> Sporadic notes:
> - Bookmarks aren't done right. It stops too soon. Ideally, it
> should only be an HTML page per bookmark. (Maybe a level
> deeper, but I doubt we want that?)
I have no idea how those are generated, but at a first glance they
looked reasonable. But I see that you are right. I was using xpdf, and
the problem is much clearer in acrobat.
> - Whatever is happening around page 101 isn't nice.
You need to be more specific, as I don't know what you're seeing.
> - Is this Apache 2.0 or 1.3? I saw a note in there about Apache
> 2.0?
These are the 1.3 docs, as currently in CVS.
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Re: pdf of docs
Posted by Justin Erenkrantz <je...@ebuilt.com>.
On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 10:12:01PM -0500, Rich Bowen wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Rich Bowen wrote:
>
> > OK, the best thing that I'm able to find at the moment is something
> > called htmldoc (http://www.easysw.com/htmldoc/) which does HTML->PDF
> > conversion. It looks good. The only thing that is non-obvious is how to
> > get it to do things in a sensible order, and I am having a little
> > trouble with links from one document to another. (It's all one PDF, but
> > links from one doc to another are not working correctly. I'll get it
> > eventually.)
> >
> > So, it looks like, if we can agree on a sensible order for the docs, all
> > that we would have to maintain is a complete list of all of the files in
> > that preferred order, and someone (I'm volunteering) could do the
> > necessary magic (probably just a shell or Perl script, once I get this
> > figured out) to generate that document on demand.
>
> My first cut at this is available at http://apacheadmin.com/docs.pdf.bz2
> It's a little over 1MB bzipped, and nearly 2 uncompressed. There's a
> little trouble with links - sometimes they get converted to "internal
> link", which works, while other times they appear to get converted to
> HTML references, which don't work. But apart from that, and some trouble
> that it seemed to have with the tables in the mod_rewrite docs, it looks
> like we can generate a PDF without much trouble. Please let me know what
> you think.
Looks good, but rough. =) (htmldoc is GPLed, so we can fix bugs
in the tool if need be.)
Sporadic notes:
- Bookmarks aren't done right. It stops too soon. Ideally, it
should only be an HTML page per bookmark. (Maybe a level
deeper, but I doubt we want that?)
- Whatever is happening around page 101 isn't nice.
- Is this Apache 2.0 or 1.3? I saw a note in there about Apache
2.0?
But, it looks like it is a definite starting point. -- justin
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Re: pdf of docs
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Rich Bowen wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Rich Bowen wrote:
>
> > OK, the best thing that I'm able to find at the moment is something
> > called htmldoc (http://www.easysw.com/htmldoc/) which does HTML->PDF
> > conversion. It looks good. The only thing that is non-obvious is how to
> > get it to do things in a sensible order, and I am having a little
> > trouble with links from one document to another. (It's all one PDF, but
> > links from one doc to another are not working correctly. I'll get it
> > eventually.)
> >
> > So, it looks like, if we can agree on a sensible order for the docs, all
> > that we would have to maintain is a complete list of all of the files in
> > that preferred order, and someone (I'm volunteering) could do the
> > necessary magic (probably just a shell or Perl script, once I get this
> > figured out) to generate that document on demand.
>
> My first cut at this is available at http://apacheadmin.com/docs.pdf.bz2
> It's a little over 1MB bzipped, and nearly 2 uncompressed. There's a
> little trouble with links - sometimes they get converted to "internal
> link", which works, while other times they appear to get converted to
> HTML references, which don't work. But apart from that, and some trouble
> that it seemed to have with the tables in the mod_rewrite docs, it looks
> like we can generate a PDF without much trouble. Please let me know what
> you think.
And I also figured out how to do it without the links at all. If people
are going to print this (it's 500+ pages) then perhaps the links are
less than relevant.
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Re: pdf of docs
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Rich Bowen wrote:
> OK, the best thing that I'm able to find at the moment is something
> called htmldoc (http://www.easysw.com/htmldoc/) which does HTML->PDF
> conversion. It looks good. The only thing that is non-obvious is how to
> get it to do things in a sensible order, and I am having a little
> trouble with links from one document to another. (It's all one PDF, but
> links from one doc to another are not working correctly. I'll get it
> eventually.)
>
> So, it looks like, if we can agree on a sensible order for the docs, all
> that we would have to maintain is a complete list of all of the files in
> that preferred order, and someone (I'm volunteering) could do the
> necessary magic (probably just a shell or Perl script, once I get this
> figured out) to generate that document on demand.
My first cut at this is available at http://apacheadmin.com/docs.pdf.bz2
It's a little over 1MB bzipped, and nearly 2 uncompressed. There's a
little trouble with links - sometimes they get converted to "internal
link", which works, while other times they appear to get converted to
HTML references, which don't work. But apart from that, and some trouble
that it seemed to have with the tables in the mod_rewrite docs, it looks
like we can generate a PDF without much trouble. Please let me know what
you think.
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And danced the sky on laughter-silvered wings
--High Flight (John Gillespie Magee)
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Re: pdf of docs
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Rich Bowen wrote:
> I'm at this moment investigating a few HTML->PDF thingys that I found on
> Freshmeat. I'll let y'all know if I find something useful. Not knowing
> when the last PDF was generated, I'm not sure how much the docs have
> changed since then, but I at least would like to think that we've made
> some good improvements over the last few months. I'm currently on my own
> little quest to make sure that docs have examples. I was offline for a
> whole week, while in St. Louis, so it may be a little while before I
> catch up and start committing stuff again.
OK, the best thing that I'm able to find at the moment is something
called htmldoc (http://www.easysw.com/htmldoc/) which does HTML->PDF
conversion. It looks good. The only thing that is non-obvious is how to
get it to do things in a sensible order, and I am having a little
trouble with links from one document to another. (It's all one PDF, but
links from one doc to another are not working correctly. I'll get it
eventually.)
So, it looks like, if we can agree on a sensible order for the docs, all
that we would have to maintain is a complete list of all of the files in
that preferred order, and someone (I'm volunteering) could do the
necessary magic (probably just a shell or Perl script, once I get this
figured out) to generate that document on demand.
More details as I have them.
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http://www.rcbowen.com/kenya/
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Re: pdf of docs
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
> Joshua Slive wrote:
> >
> > > > There was a rather old pdf of the docs in the dist/httpd/
> > > > directory. I moved it to old, because it is really too
> > > > out of date to be useful and I received a complaint about
> > > > it in the bug database.
>
> I would *really* rather we didn't start deleting/moving stuff
> until we have worthwhile replacements.. You've now put us
> without any PDF docco anyone can reasonably find, with no
> prospects for fixing the situation. :-) As for out-of-dateness..
> has the docco *really* changed that much?
>
> That file was created with Acrobat's Web-suck feature, and then
> the pages were re-ordered. It was a PITA to be sure.
I'm at this moment investigating a few HTML->PDF thingys that I found on
Freshmeat. I'll let y'all know if I find something useful. Not knowing
when the last PDF was generated, I'm not sure how much the docs have
changed since then, but I at least would like to think that we've made
some good improvements over the last few months. I'm currently on my own
little quest to make sure that docs have examples. I was offline for a
whole week, while in St. Louis, so it may be a little while before I
catch up and start committing stuff again.
Anyways, it would be nice if there was a nice way to generate a PDF
from the docs on a regular basis, and I'll see what I can find.
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RE: pdf of docs
Posted by Chris Pepper <pe...@mail.reppep.com>.
At 9:53 AM -0500 2001/11/16, Joshua Slive wrote:
>I did start on a site map at one point, but I never found a good way to do
>it. (If someone could just provide a file with a linked listing of every
><title> in the docs, that would be a decent starting point. But I could
>never find a program to generate that simple thing.)
Justin,
It should be easy to get an English-language version by grepping further for "html:" or "html.en", but here's a starting point.
[g4:cvs/apache/httpd-docs-2.0] pepper% grep -ri "title>" . | mail pepper
Chris
./docroot/index.html.ca: <TITLE>Pàgina de prova de l'instal·lació d'Apache</TITLE>
./docroot/index.html.cz.iso8859-2: <TITLE>TestovacÌ str·nka instalace web serveru Apache</TITLE>
./docroot/index.html.de: <TITLE>Testseite fuer die Apache-Installation auf dieser Web Site</TITLE>
./docroot/index.html.dk: <TITLE>Prøveside for Apache installationen</TITLE>
./docroot/index.html.ee: <TITLE>Apache veebiserveri installatsiooni testlehekülg</TITLE>
./docroot/index.html.el: <TITLE>ÔÍÈÏ·ÛÙÈÍÞ "ÂÎþ· È· ÙÁÌ Í·ÙÐÛÙ·ÛÁ ÙÔ Apache</TITLE>
./docroot/index.html.en:<title>Test Page for Apache Installation</title>
./docroot/index.html.es: <TITLE>Pagína para probar la instalación de Apache</TITLE>
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Re: pdf of docs
Posted by Rodent of Unusual Size <Ke...@Golux.Com>.
Joshua Slive wrote:
>
> > From: Rodent of Unusual Size [mailto:Ken.Coar@Golux.Com]
>
> > I would *really* rather we didn't start deleting/moving stuff
> > until we have worthwhile replacements.. You've now put us
> > without any PDF docco anyone can reasonably find, with no
> > prospects for fixing the situation. :-) As for out-of-dateness..
> > has the docco *really* changed that much?
>
> Woops. I had a fealing I might irritate the rodent ;-)
Right; I'll just belt up then, shall I?
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RE: pdf of docs
Posted by Joshua Slive <jo...@slive.ca>.
> From: Rodent of Unusual Size [mailto:Ken.Coar@Golux.Com]
> I would *really* rather we didn't start deleting/moving stuff
> until we have worthwhile replacements.. You've now put us
> without any PDF docco anyone can reasonably find, with no
> prospects for fixing the situation. :-) As for out-of-dateness..
> has the docco *really* changed that much?
Woops. I had a fealing I might irritate the rodent ;-)
I did it because I have heard several complaints about the current pdf.
(Not your fault; just that the tools we have are bad.) My impression is
that many people are downloading that pdf and are dissappointed with what
they find. Admittedly, I have no way to know how many people downloaded it
and are perfectly happy with what they have. I just got sick of fielding
complaints about it.
I will move it back if you want (and change the name to make it even more
clear that it is not the current docs).
> > 2. Create a comprehensive site-map that lists every page on the
> > site in the order we think they should appear. Then conceivably
> > (I haven't tested this) Acrobat could be instructed to put the
> > pages in the order of the site-map.
>
> I wouldn't bet on it. A third option would be to use the site-map
> (which is a good idea, but more hours of work) into some form
> that would be usable by FOP or some other of the Apache publishing
> helpers.
I don't have Acrobat handy, but I seem to remember that there was a way to
make it grab all the links from a single page in order. The problems only
start when you ask it to grab links several levels deep. Then it has no way
of knowing the proper order.
I did start on a site map at one point, but I never found a good way to do
it. (If someone could just provide a file with a linked listing of every
<title> in the docs, that would be a decent starting point. But I could
never find a program to generate that simple thing.)
Joshua.
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Re: pdf of docs
Posted by Rodent of Unusual Size <Ke...@Golux.Com>.
Joshua Slive wrote:
>
> > > There was a rather old pdf of the docs in the dist/httpd/
> > > directory. I moved it to old, because it is really too
> > > out of date to be useful and I received a complaint about
> > > it in the bug database.
I would *really* rather we didn't start deleting/moving stuff
until we have worthwhile replacements.. You've now put us
without any PDF docco anyone can reasonably find, with no
prospects for fixing the situation. :-) As for out-of-dateness..
has the docco *really* changed that much?
That file was created with Acrobat's Web-suck feature, and then
the pages were re-ordered. It was a PITA to be sure.
> 1. Manually reording each time we create a PDF. This would be
> hours of work, and there is no way I am going to do it.
Indeed it would be (I know, having done it) -- but how often does
it need to be done?
> 2. Create a comprehensive site-map that lists every page on the
> site in the order we think they should appear. Then conceivably
> (I haven't tested this) Acrobat could be instructed to put the
> pages in the order of the site-map.
I wouldn't bet on it. A third option would be to use the site-map
(which is a good idea, but more hours of work) into some form
that would be usable by FOP or some other of the Apache publishing
helpers.
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Re: pdf of docs
Posted by James A Sutherland <ja...@cam.ac.uk>.
On Thursday 15 November 2001 11:11 pm, you wrote:
> > From: James A Sutherland [mailto:jas88@cam.ac.uk]
> >
> > On Thursday 15 November 2001 10:23 pm, you wrote:
> > > There was a rather old pdf of the docs in the dist/httpd/ directory. I
> > > moved it to old, because it is really too out of date to be useful and
> > > I received a complaint about it in the bug database. I don't
> >
> > think we have
> >
> > > any method of creating a decent pdf version of the docs.
> >
> > Well, if someone has a copy of Acrobat, it can turn a snapshot of the WWW
> > site into a PDF, images, links and all. Alternatively, you could
> > probably do
> > something via Postscript and Ghostscript?
>
> I have tried it. I don't think the results are worth distributing. It
> winds up being HUGE, and more troublingly, completely out of order.
Huge? Hmmm.... in theory, it shouldn't be (much) bigger than the source...
> Acrobat has some algorithm to discover links and add them in, but it does
> not correspond to what we would think of as a nature order. I have thought
> of two potential solutions:
>
> 1. Manually reording each time we create a PDF. This would be hours of
> work, and there is no way I am going to do it.
Ouch. Yes, that one's out, unless someone has insane amounts of time free :)
> 2. Create a comprehensive site-map that lists every page on the site in the
> order we think they should appear. Then conceivably (I haven't tested
> this) Acrobat could be instructed to put the pages in the order of the
> site-map.
Alternatively, perhaps once the docs are in your XML format, a script could
generate a LaTeX form, which is then nice and easy to convert to PDF or
PostScript?
James.
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RE: pdf of docs
Posted by Joshua Slive <jo...@slive.ca>.
> From: James A Sutherland [mailto:jas88@cam.ac.uk]
> On Thursday 15 November 2001 10:23 pm, you wrote:
> > There was a rather old pdf of the docs in the dist/httpd/ directory. I
> > moved it to old, because it is really too out of date to be useful and I
> > received a complaint about it in the bug database. I don't
> think we have
> > any method of creating a decent pdf version of the docs.
>
> Well, if someone has a copy of Acrobat, it can turn a snapshot of the WWW
> site into a PDF, images, links and all. Alternatively, you could
> probably do
> something via Postscript and Ghostscript?
I have tried it. I don't think the results are worth distributing. It
winds up being HUGE, and more troublingly, completely out of order. Acrobat
has some algorithm to discover links and add them in, but it does not
correspond to what we would think of as a nature order. I have thought of
two potential solutions:
1. Manually reording each time we create a PDF. This would be hours of
work, and there is no way I am going to do it.
2. Create a comprehensive site-map that lists every page on the site in the
order we think they should appear. Then conceivably (I haven't tested this)
Acrobat could be instructed to put the pages in the order of the site-map.
Joshua.
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Re: pdf of docs
Posted by James A Sutherland <ja...@cam.ac.uk>.
On Thursday 15 November 2001 10:23 pm, you wrote:
> There was a rather old pdf of the docs in the dist/httpd/ directory. I
> moved it to old, because it is really too out of date to be useful and I
> received a complaint about it in the bug database. I don't think we have
> any method of creating a decent pdf version of the docs.
Well, if someone has a copy of Acrobat, it can turn a snapshot of the WWW
site into a PDF, images, links and all. Alternatively, you could probably do
something via Postscript and Ghostscript?
James.
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