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Posted to dev@openmeetings.apache.org by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> on 2012/03/06 19:56:13 UTC

Project restructuring

Right now we have really messy project structure:
bin                                (ant intermediate folder for classes)
build                             (eclipse folder for classes)
build.xml                      + build file
derby.log                     (derdy DB log)
dist                               (ant folder fo build artifacts)
docs                            (HTML documentation generated from xdocs)
filetest.keystore          (keystore generated by ant)
ivysettings.xml            + ivy configuration file
ivy.xml                          + ivy configuration file
junitreport                    (ant generated folder for junit reports)
lib                                  +- folder with initial and downloaded
libraries
LICENSE                     + apache license
log                                (red5 log from junit tests)
openlaszlo                  (downloaded openlaszlo sources)
openmeetings            (derby DB generated by junit)
red5                             (downloaded red5)
screen_compile         (classes of screenshare client)
src                                + java sources
test                               +- not sure
velocity.log                  (log generated by velocity)
WebContent               + various sources
xdocs                           + documentation

project root is full of generated data. I propose to reorganize it
move all generated (including docs) into let's say "build" folder and make
it better structured

What do you think on this?


-- 
WBR
Maxim aka solomax

Re: Project restructuring

Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
one note: There are currently two .vm (velocity template files) that are in
the /docs directory. So if you move that content somewhere else you need to
modify the Doclet task in WebServiceDoclet.java so that it will search (and
write) the API docs somewhere else.

Sebastian

2012/3/7 Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>

> Great!
>
>
> --
> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > It is already done
> > 2 3rdParty jars remain, I'll remove it in near future :)
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:11, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Maxim,
> >>
> >> As for restructuring, we need to accomplish removing jars from tree
> >> (replacing them with jar downloads during the build process). This is
> >> Apache best practice to keep other things out of the tree.
> >>
> >> Do you plan including this into restructuring?
> >>
> >> --
> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> http://dataved.ru/
> >> +7 916 562 8095
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:09 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com
> >> <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Docs have to be in SVN.
> >> > Cause there is a sync script configured by Apache Infra team that
> syncs
> >> > the
> >> > svn/trunk/singlewebapp/docs to
> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/
> >> >
> >> > So a compiled version of our website always has to be in the SVN.
> >> > If you change the path I guess you have to make sure that for a period
> >> > of
> >> > time the old location in the SVN is still filled with our website ..
> >> > otherwise we only have a blank page online till Infra Team will find
> the
> >> > time to change our svn_sync_script.
> >> >
> >> > Sebastian
> >> >
> >> > 2012/3/6 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> >> >
> >> >> I'll create an issue and assign it to myself
> >> >>
> >> >> please NOTE docs will not be in svn
> >> >> is it OK?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 02:01, seba.wagner@gmail.com
> >> >> <seba.wagner@gmail.com
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> +1 :)
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 2012/3/6 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Right now we have really messy project structure:
> >> >>>> bin                                (ant intermediate folder for
> >> >>>> classes)
> >> >>>> build                             (eclipse folder for classes)
> >> >>>>  build.xml                      + build file
> >> >>>> derby.log                     (derdy DB log)
> >> >>>> dist                               (ant folder fo build artifacts)
> >> >>>> docs                            (HTML documentation generated from
> >> >>>> xdocs)
> >> >>>> filetest.keystore          (keystore generated by ant)
> >> >>>> ivysettings.xml            + ivy configuration file
> >> >>>> ivy.xml                          + ivy configuration file
> >> >>>> junitreport                    (ant generated folder for junit
> >> >>>> reports)
> >> >>>> lib                                  +- folder with initial and
> >> >>>> downloaded libraries
> >> >>>> LICENSE                     + apache license
> >> >>>> log                                (red5 log from junit tests)
> >> >>>> openlaszlo                  (downloaded openlaszlo sources)
> >> >>>> openmeetings            (derby DB generated by junit)
> >> >>>> red5                             (downloaded red5)
> >> >>>> screen_compile         (classes of screenshare client)
> >> >>>> src                                + java sources
> >> >>>> test                               +- not sure
> >> >>>> velocity.log                  (log generated by velocity)
> >> >>>> WebContent               + various sources
> >> >>>> xdocs                           + documentation
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> project root is full of generated data. I propose to reorganize it
> >> >>>> move all generated (including docs) into let's say "build" folder
> and
> >> >>>> make it better structured
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> What do you think on this?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>> WBR
> >> >>>> Maxim aka solomax
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Sebastian Wagner
> >> >>> http://www.openmeetings.de
> >> >>> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/
> >> >>> http://www.webbase-design.de
> >> >>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> >> >>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> WBR
> >> >> Maxim aka solomax
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Sebastian Wagner
> >> > http://www.openmeetings.de
> >> > http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/
> >> > http://www.webbase-design.de
> >> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> >> > seba.wagner@gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > WBR
> > Maxim aka solomax
>



-- 
Sebastian Wagner
http://www.openmeetings.de
http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com

Re: Project restructuring

Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
Great!


--
With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095



On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It is already done
> 2 3rdParty jars remain, I'll remove it in near future :)
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:11, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Maxim,
>>
>> As for restructuring, we need to accomplish removing jars from tree
>> (replacing them with jar downloads during the build process). This is
>> Apache best practice to keep other things out of the tree.
>>
>> Do you plan including this into restructuring?
>>
>> --
>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> http://dataved.ru/
>> +7 916 562 8095
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:09 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com
>> <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Docs have to be in SVN.
>> > Cause there is a sync script configured by Apache Infra team that syncs
>> > the
>> > svn/trunk/singlewebapp/docs to http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/
>> >
>> > So a compiled version of our website always has to be in the SVN.
>> > If you change the path I guess you have to make sure that for a period
>> > of
>> > time the old location in the SVN is still filled with our website ..
>> > otherwise we only have a blank page online till Infra Team will find the
>> > time to change our svn_sync_script.
>> >
>> > Sebastian
>> >
>> > 2012/3/6 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> >
>> >> I'll create an issue and assign it to myself
>> >>
>> >> please NOTE docs will not be in svn
>> >> is it OK?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 02:01, seba.wagner@gmail.com
>> >> <seba.wagner@gmail.com
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> +1 :)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 2012/3/6 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> >>>
>> >>>> Right now we have really messy project structure:
>> >>>> bin                                (ant intermediate folder for
>> >>>> classes)
>> >>>> build                             (eclipse folder for classes)
>> >>>>  build.xml                      + build file
>> >>>> derby.log                     (derdy DB log)
>> >>>> dist                               (ant folder fo build artifacts)
>> >>>> docs                            (HTML documentation generated from
>> >>>> xdocs)
>> >>>> filetest.keystore          (keystore generated by ant)
>> >>>> ivysettings.xml            + ivy configuration file
>> >>>> ivy.xml                          + ivy configuration file
>> >>>> junitreport                    (ant generated folder for junit
>> >>>> reports)
>> >>>> lib                                  +- folder with initial and
>> >>>> downloaded libraries
>> >>>> LICENSE                     + apache license
>> >>>> log                                (red5 log from junit tests)
>> >>>> openlaszlo                  (downloaded openlaszlo sources)
>> >>>> openmeetings            (derby DB generated by junit)
>> >>>> red5                             (downloaded red5)
>> >>>> screen_compile         (classes of screenshare client)
>> >>>> src                                + java sources
>> >>>> test                               +- not sure
>> >>>> velocity.log                  (log generated by velocity)
>> >>>> WebContent               + various sources
>> >>>> xdocs                           + documentation
>> >>>>
>> >>>> project root is full of generated data. I propose to reorganize it
>> >>>> move all generated (including docs) into let's say "build" folder and
>> >>>> make it better structured
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What do you think on this?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> WBR
>> >>>> Maxim aka solomax
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Sebastian Wagner
>> >>> http://www.openmeetings.de
>> >>> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/
>> >>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>> >>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> >>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> WBR
>> >> Maxim aka solomax
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Sebastian Wagner
>> > http://www.openmeetings.de
>> > http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/
>> > http://www.webbase-design.de
>> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> > seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax

Re: Project restructuring

Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
It is already done
2 3rdParty jars remain, I'll remove it in near future :)

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:11, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Maxim,
>
> As for restructuring, we need to accomplish removing jars from tree
> (replacing them with jar downloads during the build process). This is
> Apache best practice to keep other things out of the tree.
>
> Do you plan including this into restructuring?
>
> --
> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:09 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com
> <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Docs have to be in SVN.
> > Cause there is a sync script configured by Apache Infra team that syncs
> the
> > svn/trunk/singlewebapp/docs to http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/
> >
> > So a compiled version of our website always has to be in the SVN.
> > If you change the path I guess you have to make sure that for a period of
> > time the old location in the SVN is still filled with our website ..
> > otherwise we only have a blank page online till Infra Team will find the
> > time to change our svn_sync_script.
> >
> > Sebastian
> >
> > 2012/3/6 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> >
> >> I'll create an issue and assign it to myself
> >>
> >> please NOTE docs will not be in svn
> >> is it OK?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 02:01, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> +1 :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2012/3/6 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>>> Right now we have really messy project structure:
> >>>> bin                                (ant intermediate folder for
> classes)
> >>>> build                             (eclipse folder for classes)
> >>>>  build.xml                      + build file
> >>>> derby.log                     (derdy DB log)
> >>>> dist                               (ant folder fo build artifacts)
> >>>> docs                            (HTML documentation generated from
> xdocs)
> >>>> filetest.keystore          (keystore generated by ant)
> >>>> ivysettings.xml            + ivy configuration file
> >>>> ivy.xml                          + ivy configuration file
> >>>> junitreport                    (ant generated folder for junit
> reports)
> >>>> lib                                  +- folder with initial and
> >>>> downloaded libraries
> >>>> LICENSE                     + apache license
> >>>> log                                (red5 log from junit tests)
> >>>> openlaszlo                  (downloaded openlaszlo sources)
> >>>> openmeetings            (derby DB generated by junit)
> >>>> red5                             (downloaded red5)
> >>>> screen_compile         (classes of screenshare client)
> >>>> src                                + java sources
> >>>> test                               +- not sure
> >>>> velocity.log                  (log generated by velocity)
> >>>> WebContent               + various sources
> >>>> xdocs                           + documentation
> >>>>
> >>>> project root is full of generated data. I propose to reorganize it
> >>>> move all generated (including docs) into let's say "build" folder and
> >>>> make it better structured
> >>>>
> >>>> What do you think on this?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> WBR
> >>>> Maxim aka solomax
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Sebastian Wagner
> >>> http://www.openmeetings.de
> >>> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/
> >>> http://www.webbase-design.de
> >>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> >>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> WBR
> >> Maxim aka solomax
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sebastian Wagner
> > http://www.openmeetings.de
> > http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/
> > http://www.webbase-design.de
> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> > seba.wagner@gmail.com
>



-- 
WBR
Maxim aka solomax

Re: Project restructuring

Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
Maxim,

As for restructuring, we need to accomplish removing jars from tree
(replacing them with jar downloads during the build process). This is
Apache best practice to keep other things out of the tree.

Do you plan including this into restructuring?

--
With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095



On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:09 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com
<se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Docs have to be in SVN.
> Cause there is a sync script configured by Apache Infra team that syncs the
> svn/trunk/singlewebapp/docs to http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/
>
> So a compiled version of our website always has to be in the SVN.
> If you change the path I guess you have to make sure that for a period of
> time the old location in the SVN is still filled with our website ..
> otherwise we only have a blank page online till Infra Team will find the
> time to change our svn_sync_script.
>
> Sebastian
>
> 2012/3/6 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>
>> I'll create an issue and assign it to myself
>>
>> please NOTE docs will not be in svn
>> is it OK?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 02:01, seba.wagner@gmail.com <seba.wagner@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> +1 :)
>>>
>>>
>>> 2012/3/6 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> Right now we have really messy project structure:
>>>> bin                                (ant intermediate folder for classes)
>>>> build                             (eclipse folder for classes)
>>>>  build.xml                      + build file
>>>> derby.log                     (derdy DB log)
>>>> dist                               (ant folder fo build artifacts)
>>>> docs                            (HTML documentation generated from xdocs)
>>>> filetest.keystore          (keystore generated by ant)
>>>> ivysettings.xml            + ivy configuration file
>>>> ivy.xml                          + ivy configuration file
>>>> junitreport                    (ant generated folder for junit reports)
>>>> lib                                  +- folder with initial and
>>>> downloaded libraries
>>>> LICENSE                     + apache license
>>>> log                                (red5 log from junit tests)
>>>> openlaszlo                  (downloaded openlaszlo sources)
>>>> openmeetings            (derby DB generated by junit)
>>>> red5                             (downloaded red5)
>>>> screen_compile         (classes of screenshare client)
>>>> src                                + java sources
>>>> test                               +- not sure
>>>> velocity.log                  (log generated by velocity)
>>>> WebContent               + various sources
>>>> xdocs                           + documentation
>>>>
>>>> project root is full of generated data. I propose to reorganize it
>>>> move all generated (including docs) into let's say "build" folder and
>>>> make it better structured
>>>>
>>>> What do you think on this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>> http://www.openmeetings.de
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/
>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com

Re: Project restructuring

Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Docs have to be in SVN.
Cause there is a sync script configured by Apache Infra team that syncs the
svn/trunk/singlewebapp/docs to http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/

So a compiled version of our website always has to be in the SVN.
If you change the path I guess you have to make sure that for a period of
time the old location in the SVN is still filled with our website ..
otherwise we only have a blank page online till Infra Team will find the
time to change our svn_sync_script.

Sebastian

2012/3/6 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>

> I'll create an issue and assign it to myself
>
> please NOTE docs will not be in svn
> is it OK?
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 02:01, seba.wagner@gmail.com <seba.wagner@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> +1 :)
>>
>>
>> 2012/3/6 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>
>>> Right now we have really messy project structure:
>>> bin                                (ant intermediate folder for classes)
>>> build                             (eclipse folder for classes)
>>>  build.xml                      + build file
>>> derby.log                     (derdy DB log)
>>> dist                               (ant folder fo build artifacts)
>>> docs                            (HTML documentation generated from xdocs)
>>> filetest.keystore          (keystore generated by ant)
>>> ivysettings.xml            + ivy configuration file
>>> ivy.xml                          + ivy configuration file
>>> junitreport                    (ant generated folder for junit reports)
>>> lib                                  +- folder with initial and
>>> downloaded libraries
>>> LICENSE                     + apache license
>>> log                                (red5 log from junit tests)
>>> openlaszlo                  (downloaded openlaszlo sources)
>>> openmeetings            (derby DB generated by junit)
>>> red5                             (downloaded red5)
>>> screen_compile         (classes of screenshare client)
>>> src                                + java sources
>>> test                               +- not sure
>>> velocity.log                  (log generated by velocity)
>>> WebContent               + various sources
>>> xdocs                           + documentation
>>>
>>> project root is full of generated data. I propose to reorganize it
>>> move all generated (including docs) into let's say "build" folder and
>>> make it better structured
>>>
>>> What do you think on this?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> http://www.openmeetings.de
>> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/
>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>



-- 
Sebastian Wagner
http://www.openmeetings.de
http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com

Re: Project restructuring

Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
I'll create an issue and assign it to myself

please NOTE docs will not be in svn
is it OK?

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 02:01, seba.wagner@gmail.com
<se...@gmail.com>wrote:

> +1 :)
>
>
> 2012/3/6 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>
>> Right now we have really messy project structure:
>> bin                                (ant intermediate folder for classes)
>> build                             (eclipse folder for classes)
>>  build.xml                      + build file
>> derby.log                     (derdy DB log)
>> dist                               (ant folder fo build artifacts)
>> docs                            (HTML documentation generated from xdocs)
>> filetest.keystore          (keystore generated by ant)
>> ivysettings.xml            + ivy configuration file
>> ivy.xml                          + ivy configuration file
>> junitreport                    (ant generated folder for junit reports)
>> lib                                  +- folder with initial and
>> downloaded libraries
>> LICENSE                     + apache license
>> log                                (red5 log from junit tests)
>> openlaszlo                  (downloaded openlaszlo sources)
>> openmeetings            (derby DB generated by junit)
>> red5                             (downloaded red5)
>> screen_compile         (classes of screenshare client)
>> src                                + java sources
>> test                               +- not sure
>> velocity.log                  (log generated by velocity)
>> WebContent               + various sources
>> xdocs                           + documentation
>>
>> project root is full of generated data. I propose to reorganize it
>> move all generated (including docs) into let's say "build" folder and
>> make it better structured
>>
>> What do you think on this?
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>



-- 
WBR
Maxim aka solomax

Re: Project restructuring

Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
+1 :)

2012/3/6 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>

> Right now we have really messy project structure:
> bin                                (ant intermediate folder for classes)
> build                             (eclipse folder for classes)
>  build.xml                      + build file
> derby.log                     (derdy DB log)
> dist                               (ant folder fo build artifacts)
> docs                            (HTML documentation generated from xdocs)
> filetest.keystore          (keystore generated by ant)
> ivysettings.xml            + ivy configuration file
> ivy.xml                          + ivy configuration file
> junitreport                    (ant generated folder for junit reports)
> lib                                  +- folder with initial and downloaded
> libraries
> LICENSE                     + apache license
> log                                (red5 log from junit tests)
> openlaszlo                  (downloaded openlaszlo sources)
> openmeetings            (derby DB generated by junit)
> red5                             (downloaded red5)
> screen_compile         (classes of screenshare client)
> src                                + java sources
> test                               +- not sure
> velocity.log                  (log generated by velocity)
> WebContent               + various sources
> xdocs                           + documentation
>
> project root is full of generated data. I propose to reorganize it
> move all generated (including docs) into let's say "build" folder and make
> it better structured
>
> What do you think on this?
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>



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