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Posted to user@zookeeper.apache.org by Thomas Koch <th...@koch.ro> on 2011/02/12 09:58:10 UTC
write permission on ZooKeeper Wiki?
Hi,
I wanted to add kafka[1] to the PoweredBy[2] page in the ZK wiki, but didn't
find any edit button. I'm logged in.
[1] http://sna-projects.com/kafka
[2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ZOOKEEPER/PoweredBy
By the way: Do you know more projects that use ZooKeeper and are not yet
listed on the PoweredBy page? I could use this list for a talk I'm preparing.
Best regards,
Thomas Koch, http://www.koch.ro
Re: write permission on ZooKeeper Wiki?
Posted by Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org>.
Ben that all sounds right to me. Thanks for making this happen!
I got pinged on twitter - the old wiki pages still exist. Is there
some way for us to sunset these pages? Perhaps update them all to
point to the new pages on cwiki? (or at least tell them the page is
stale and point to the toplevel cwiki, we don't want to lose the
google juice).
Patrick
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 6:30 AM, Benjamin Reed <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> this should be fixed. the only thing normal users cannot do is remove or
> restrict pages. perhaps they should be able to remove pages as well; that
> was just the default. btw, you and mahadev should be able to change the
> space permissions, so feel free to update. it does seem like users should be
> able to remove right?
> ben
>
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ben, what's the status on this? Seems to me that given we have CMS
>> we should allow any registered user to edit the cwiki pages. This
>> level of permissions is essentially what we did on the old wiki, no?
>> (anyone registered could edit).
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Mahadev Konar <ma...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > Ben,
>> >
>> > What are the 2 level of acls?
>> >
>> > thanks
>> > mahadev
>> >
>> > On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >> Ben should we make it so that anyone logged in can edit any of the zk
>> >> wiki pages?
>> >>
>> >> Patrick
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Benjamin Reed <br...@yahoo-inc.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> you are right about the s4 guys. i'll bug them to put something up.
>> >>>
>> >>> the permissions on confluence are a bit tricky. (two levels of ACLs.)
>> >>> i
>> >>> think i've fixed it for you. can you see if you can edit the page now?
>> >>> (you
>> >>> have to be logged in of course.)
>> >>>
>> >>> thanx for pointing this out!
>> >>>
>> >>> ben
>> >>>
>> >>> On 02/12/2011 05:51 AM, Thomas Koch wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Flavio Junqueira:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Hi Thomas, It is good for us as a community to have a long PoweredBy
>> >>>>> page, but my preference would be to let the developers of
>> >>>>> applications
>> >>>>> include themselves their applications. We know of a number of
>> >>>>> applications, but the developers might not necessarily want to have
>> >>>>> their projects on our wiki page for whatever reason.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> This message actually could be seen as a call for developers to add
>> >>>>> their projects to the page.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi Flavio,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> for free software projects that publicitly state on their homepage
>> >>>> and on
>> >>>> public talks with public slides that they use ZooKeeper, it may be
>> >>>> safe to
>> >>>> assume that they're ok with being listed as ZooKeeper users.
>> >>>> It would of couse be fine, if every zk user would list themself in
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> wiki,
>> >>>> but that would require them to know that there is a poweredby page
>> >>>> and to
>> >>>> get
>> >>>> an account for the wiki and to actually care for the publicity of ZK.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> That being said, I still don't know, whether the poweredby page is
>> >>>> editable to
>> >>>> start with. Where is the edit button?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> You could be a good role model and add S4[1] to the poweredby page.
>> >>>> :-) It
>> >>>> does use ZK, doesn't it?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> [1] http://s4.io
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you don't want that we list projects on the poweredby page, would
>> >>>> you
>> >>>> be so
>> >>>> kind and give me a short brain dump what other interesting and public
>> >>>> users of
>> >>>> ZK you know?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Best regards,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thomas Koch, http://www.koch.ro
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>
>
Re: write permission on ZooKeeper Wiki?
Posted by Benjamin Reed <br...@apache.org>.
this should be fixed. the only thing normal users cannot do is remove or
restrict pages. perhaps they should be able to remove pages as well; that
was just the default. btw, you and mahadev should be able to change the
space permissions, so feel free to update. it does seem like users should be
able to remove right?
ben
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Ben, what's the status on this? Seems to me that given we have CMS
> we should allow any registered user to edit the cwiki pages. This
> level of permissions is essentially what we did on the old wiki, no?
> (anyone registered could edit).
>
> Patrick
>
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Mahadev Konar <ma...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > Ben,
> >
> > What are the 2 level of acls?
> >
> > thanks
> > mahadev
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> Ben should we make it so that anyone logged in can edit any of the zk
> >> wiki pages?
> >>
> >> Patrick
> >>
> >> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Benjamin Reed <br...@yahoo-inc.com>
> wrote:
> >>> you are right about the s4 guys. i'll bug them to put something up.
> >>>
> >>> the permissions on confluence are a bit tricky. (two levels of ACLs.) i
> >>> think i've fixed it for you. can you see if you can edit the page now?
> (you
> >>> have to be logged in of course.)
> >>>
> >>> thanx for pointing this out!
> >>>
> >>> ben
> >>>
> >>> On 02/12/2011 05:51 AM, Thomas Koch wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Flavio Junqueira:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Thomas, It is good for us as a community to have a long PoweredBy
> >>>>> page, but my preference would be to let the developers of
> applications
> >>>>> include themselves their applications. We know of a number of
> >>>>> applications, but the developers might not necessarily want to have
> >>>>> their projects on our wiki page for whatever reason.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This message actually could be seen as a call for developers to add
> >>>>> their projects to the page.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Flavio,
> >>>>
> >>>> for free software projects that publicitly state on their homepage and
> on
> >>>> public talks with public slides that they use ZooKeeper, it may be
> safe to
> >>>> assume that they're ok with being listed as ZooKeeper users.
> >>>> It would of couse be fine, if every zk user would list themself in the
> >>>> wiki,
> >>>> but that would require them to know that there is a poweredby page and
> to
> >>>> get
> >>>> an account for the wiki and to actually care for the publicity of ZK.
> >>>>
> >>>> That being said, I still don't know, whether the poweredby page is
> >>>> editable to
> >>>> start with. Where is the edit button?
> >>>>
> >>>> You could be a good role model and add S4[1] to the poweredby page.
> :-) It
> >>>> does use ZK, doesn't it?
> >>>>
> >>>> [1] http://s4.io
> >>>>
> >>>> If you don't want that we list projects on the poweredby page, would
> you
> >>>> be so
> >>>> kind and give me a short brain dump what other interesting and public
> >>>> users of
> >>>> ZK you know?
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Thomas Koch, http://www.koch.ro
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
Re: write permission on ZooKeeper Wiki?
Posted by Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org>.
Hi Ben, what's the status on this? Seems to me that given we have CMS
we should allow any registered user to edit the cwiki pages. This
level of permissions is essentially what we did on the old wiki, no?
(anyone registered could edit).
Patrick
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Mahadev Konar <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> Ben,
>
> What are the 2 level of acls?
>
> thanks
> mahadev
>
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Ben should we make it so that anyone logged in can edit any of the zk
>> wiki pages?
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Benjamin Reed <br...@yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
>>> you are right about the s4 guys. i'll bug them to put something up.
>>>
>>> the permissions on confluence are a bit tricky. (two levels of ACLs.) i
>>> think i've fixed it for you. can you see if you can edit the page now? (you
>>> have to be logged in of course.)
>>>
>>> thanx for pointing this out!
>>>
>>> ben
>>>
>>> On 02/12/2011 05:51 AM, Thomas Koch wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Flavio Junqueira:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Thomas, It is good for us as a community to have a long PoweredBy
>>>>> page, but my preference would be to let the developers of applications
>>>>> include themselves their applications. We know of a number of
>>>>> applications, but the developers might not necessarily want to have
>>>>> their projects on our wiki page for whatever reason.
>>>>>
>>>>> This message actually could be seen as a call for developers to add
>>>>> their projects to the page.
>>>>
>>>> Hi Flavio,
>>>>
>>>> for free software projects that publicitly state on their homepage and on
>>>> public talks with public slides that they use ZooKeeper, it may be safe to
>>>> assume that they're ok with being listed as ZooKeeper users.
>>>> It would of couse be fine, if every zk user would list themself in the
>>>> wiki,
>>>> but that would require them to know that there is a poweredby page and to
>>>> get
>>>> an account for the wiki and to actually care for the publicity of ZK.
>>>>
>>>> That being said, I still don't know, whether the poweredby page is
>>>> editable to
>>>> start with. Where is the edit button?
>>>>
>>>> You could be a good role model and add S4[1] to the poweredby page. :-) It
>>>> does use ZK, doesn't it?
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://s4.io
>>>>
>>>> If you don't want that we list projects on the poweredby page, would you
>>>> be so
>>>> kind and give me a short brain dump what other interesting and public
>>>> users of
>>>> ZK you know?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Thomas Koch, http://www.koch.ro
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: write permission on ZooKeeper Wiki?
Posted by Mahadev Konar <ma...@apache.org>.
Ben,
What are the 2 level of acls?
thanks
mahadev
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote:
> Ben should we make it so that anyone logged in can edit any of the zk
> wiki pages?
>
> Patrick
>
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Benjamin Reed <br...@yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
>> you are right about the s4 guys. i'll bug them to put something up.
>>
>> the permissions on confluence are a bit tricky. (two levels of ACLs.) i
>> think i've fixed it for you. can you see if you can edit the page now? (you
>> have to be logged in of course.)
>>
>> thanx for pointing this out!
>>
>> ben
>>
>> On 02/12/2011 05:51 AM, Thomas Koch wrote:
>>>
>>> Flavio Junqueira:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Thomas, It is good for us as a community to have a long PoweredBy
>>>> page, but my preference would be to let the developers of applications
>>>> include themselves their applications. We know of a number of
>>>> applications, but the developers might not necessarily want to have
>>>> their projects on our wiki page for whatever reason.
>>>>
>>>> This message actually could be seen as a call for developers to add
>>>> their projects to the page.
>>>
>>> Hi Flavio,
>>>
>>> for free software projects that publicitly state on their homepage and on
>>> public talks with public slides that they use ZooKeeper, it may be safe to
>>> assume that they're ok with being listed as ZooKeeper users.
>>> It would of couse be fine, if every zk user would list themself in the
>>> wiki,
>>> but that would require them to know that there is a poweredby page and to
>>> get
>>> an account for the wiki and to actually care for the publicity of ZK.
>>>
>>> That being said, I still don't know, whether the poweredby page is
>>> editable to
>>> start with. Where is the edit button?
>>>
>>> You could be a good role model and add S4[1] to the poweredby page. :-) It
>>> does use ZK, doesn't it?
>>>
>>> [1] http://s4.io
>>>
>>> If you don't want that we list projects on the poweredby page, would you
>>> be so
>>> kind and give me a short brain dump what other interesting and public
>>> users of
>>> ZK you know?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Thomas Koch, http://www.koch.ro
>>
>>
>
Re: write permission on ZooKeeper Wiki?
Posted by Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org>.
Ben should we make it so that anyone logged in can edit any of the zk
wiki pages?
Patrick
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Benjamin Reed <br...@yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
> you are right about the s4 guys. i'll bug them to put something up.
>
> the permissions on confluence are a bit tricky. (two levels of ACLs.) i
> think i've fixed it for you. can you see if you can edit the page now? (you
> have to be logged in of course.)
>
> thanx for pointing this out!
>
> ben
>
> On 02/12/2011 05:51 AM, Thomas Koch wrote:
>>
>> Flavio Junqueira:
>>>
>>> Hi Thomas, It is good for us as a community to have a long PoweredBy
>>> page, but my preference would be to let the developers of applications
>>> include themselves their applications. We know of a number of
>>> applications, but the developers might not necessarily want to have
>>> their projects on our wiki page for whatever reason.
>>>
>>> This message actually could be seen as a call for developers to add
>>> their projects to the page.
>>
>> Hi Flavio,
>>
>> for free software projects that publicitly state on their homepage and on
>> public talks with public slides that they use ZooKeeper, it may be safe to
>> assume that they're ok with being listed as ZooKeeper users.
>> It would of couse be fine, if every zk user would list themself in the
>> wiki,
>> but that would require them to know that there is a poweredby page and to
>> get
>> an account for the wiki and to actually care for the publicity of ZK.
>>
>> That being said, I still don't know, whether the poweredby page is
>> editable to
>> start with. Where is the edit button?
>>
>> You could be a good role model and add S4[1] to the poweredby page. :-) It
>> does use ZK, doesn't it?
>>
>> [1] http://s4.io
>>
>> If you don't want that we list projects on the poweredby page, would you
>> be so
>> kind and give me a short brain dump what other interesting and public
>> users of
>> ZK you know?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Thomas Koch, http://www.koch.ro
>
>
Re: write permission on ZooKeeper Wiki?
Posted by Benjamin Reed <br...@yahoo-inc.com>.
you are right about the s4 guys. i'll bug them to put something up.
the permissions on confluence are a bit tricky. (two levels of ACLs.) i
think i've fixed it for you. can you see if you can edit the page now?
(you have to be logged in of course.)
thanx for pointing this out!
ben
On 02/12/2011 05:51 AM, Thomas Koch wrote:
> Flavio Junqueira:
>> Hi Thomas, It is good for us as a community to have a long PoweredBy
>> page, but my preference would be to let the developers of applications
>> include themselves their applications. We know of a number of
>> applications, but the developers might not necessarily want to have
>> their projects on our wiki page for whatever reason.
>>
>> This message actually could be seen as a call for developers to add
>> their projects to the page.
> Hi Flavio,
>
> for free software projects that publicitly state on their homepage and on
> public talks with public slides that they use ZooKeeper, it may be safe to
> assume that they're ok with being listed as ZooKeeper users.
> It would of couse be fine, if every zk user would list themself in the wiki,
> but that would require them to know that there is a poweredby page and to get
> an account for the wiki and to actually care for the publicity of ZK.
>
> That being said, I still don't know, whether the poweredby page is editable to
> start with. Where is the edit button?
>
> You could be a good role model and add S4[1] to the poweredby page. :-) It
> does use ZK, doesn't it?
>
> [1] http://s4.io
>
> If you don't want that we list projects on the poweredby page, would you be so
> kind and give me a short brain dump what other interesting and public users of
> ZK you know?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Thomas Koch, http://www.koch.ro
Re: write permission on ZooKeeper Wiki?
Posted by Mahadev Konar <ma...@apache.org>.
Hi Thomas,
The facebook messaging service that they launched 2-3 months ago,
uses zookeeper. There are others as well but unfortunately we cant put
this up on the powered by page unless folks who are these power users
agree to put this up on the website.
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=454991608919
Its really unfortunate that the powered by page of zookeeper is very
under represented.
thanks
mahadev
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 5:51 AM, Thomas Koch <th...@koch.ro> wrote:
> Flavio Junqueira:
>> Hi Thomas, It is good for us as a community to have a long PoweredBy
>> page, but my preference would be to let the developers of applications
>> include themselves their applications. We know of a number of
>> applications, but the developers might not necessarily want to have
>> their projects on our wiki page for whatever reason.
>>
>> This message actually could be seen as a call for developers to add
>> their projects to the page.
> Hi Flavio,
>
> for free software projects that publicitly state on their homepage and on
> public talks with public slides that they use ZooKeeper, it may be safe to
> assume that they're ok with being listed as ZooKeeper users.
> It would of couse be fine, if every zk user would list themself in the wiki,
> but that would require them to know that there is a poweredby page and to get
> an account for the wiki and to actually care for the publicity of ZK.
>
> That being said, I still don't know, whether the poweredby page is editable to
> start with. Where is the edit button?
>
> You could be a good role model and add S4[1] to the poweredby page. :-) It
> does use ZK, doesn't it?
>
> [1] http://s4.io
>
> If you don't want that we list projects on the poweredby page, would you be so
> kind and give me a short brain dump what other interesting and public users of
> ZK you know?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Thomas Koch, http://www.koch.ro
>
Re: write permission on ZooKeeper Wiki?
Posted by Ertio Lew <er...@gmail.com>.
Sorry, by mistake, I mailed to this thread instead of creating a new..
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Ertio Lew <er...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am involved in a project where we're building a social application
> using Cassandra DB and Java. I am looking for a solution to generate
> unique sequential IDs for the content on the application. I have been
> suggested by some people to have a look to Zookeeper for this. I
> would highly appreciate if anyone can suggest if zookeeper is suitable
> for this purpose and any good resources to gain information about
> zookeeper.
>
> Since the application is based on a eventually consistent distributed
> platform using Cassandra, we have felt a need to look over to other
> solutions instead of building our own using our DB.
>
> Any kind of comments, suggestions are highly welcomed! :)
>
> Regards
> Ertio Lew.
>
Re: write permission on ZooKeeper Wiki?
Posted by Ertio Lew <er...@gmail.com>.
Hi all,
I am involved in a project where we're building a social application
using Cassandra DB and Java. I am looking for a solution to generate
unique sequential IDs for the content on the application. I have been
suggested by some people to have a look to Zookeeper for this. I
would highly appreciate if anyone can suggest if zookeeper is suitable
for this purpose and any good resources to gain information about
zookeeper.
Since the application is based on a eventually consistent distributed
platform using Cassandra, we have felt a need to look over to other
solutions instead of building our own using our DB.
Any kind of comments, suggestions are highly welcomed! :)
Regards
Ertio Lew.
Re: write permission on ZooKeeper Wiki?
Posted by Thomas Koch <th...@koch.ro>.
Flavio Junqueira:
> Hi Thomas, It is good for us as a community to have a long PoweredBy
> page, but my preference would be to let the developers of applications
> include themselves their applications. We know of a number of
> applications, but the developers might not necessarily want to have
> their projects on our wiki page for whatever reason.
>
> This message actually could be seen as a call for developers to add
> their projects to the page.
Hi Flavio,
for free software projects that publicitly state on their homepage and on
public talks with public slides that they use ZooKeeper, it may be safe to
assume that they're ok with being listed as ZooKeeper users.
It would of couse be fine, if every zk user would list themself in the wiki,
but that would require them to know that there is a poweredby page and to get
an account for the wiki and to actually care for the publicity of ZK.
That being said, I still don't know, whether the poweredby page is editable to
start with. Where is the edit button?
You could be a good role model and add S4[1] to the poweredby page. :-) It
does use ZK, doesn't it?
[1] http://s4.io
If you don't want that we list projects on the poweredby page, would you be so
kind and give me a short brain dump what other interesting and public users of
ZK you know?
Best regards,
Thomas Koch, http://www.koch.ro
Re: write permission on ZooKeeper Wiki?
Posted by Flavio Junqueira <fp...@yahoo-inc.com>.
Hi Thomas, It is good for us as a community to have a long PoweredBy
page, but my preference would be to let the developers of applications
include themselves their applications. We know of a number of
applications, but the developers might not necessarily want to have
their projects on our wiki page for whatever reason.
This message actually could be seen as a call for developers to add
their projects to the page.
-Flavio
On Feb 12, 2011, at 9:58 AM, Thomas Koch wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I wanted to add kafka[1] to the PoweredBy[2] page in the ZK wiki,
> but didn't
> find any edit button. I'm logged in.
>
> [1] http://sna-projects.com/kafka
> [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ZOOKEEPER/PoweredBy
>
> By the way: Do you know more projects that use ZooKeeper and are not
> yet
> listed on the PoweredBy page? I could use this list for a talk I'm
> preparing.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Thomas Koch, http://www.koch.ro
flavio
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