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From: Guillaume Nodet [mailto:gnodet@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 2:48 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: INCUBATOR-57 aka IPMC votes to ratify PPMC committers

+1

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Justin Erenkrantz
<ju...@erenkrantz.com> wrote:
> Currently on http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html, we have:
> ---
> Vote on the podling's private (PPMC) list, with notice posted to the 
> Incubator private list. The notice is a separate email forwarding the 
> vote email with a cover statement that this vote is underway on the 
> podling's private list. Many consider this approach to be best 
> practice. After completing the vote on the PPMC list, the proposer 
> calls a vote on the Incubator PMC private list, summarizing the 
> discussion and vote, with a reference to the archived discussion and 
> vote threads by the PPMC. The Incubator vote is done even if there are

> three +1 votes from Incubator PMC members during the PPMC vote, in 
> order to give all Incubator PMC members a chance to express their 
> support or disapproval after seeing the PPMC discussion and vote 
> results. Note that only the Incubator PMC members can see the 
> Incubator private discussion, and the podling's Mentors should review 
> all Incubator PMC feedback with the PPMC. Moreover, only Apache 
> members may review the private PPMC list (this is normally not an 
> issue since most Incubator PMC members are Apache members).
> ---
>
> I'd like to make the suggestion that we alter this to:
> ---
> Vote on the podling's private (PPMC) list, with notice posted to the 
> Incubator private list. The notice is a separate email forwarding the 
> vote email with a cover statement that this vote is underway on the 
> podling's private list. Many consider this approach to be best 
> practice. After completing the vote on the PPMC list, the proposer 
> *sends a note to* the Incubator PMC private list, summarizing the 
> discussion and vote, with a reference to the archived discussion and 
> vote threads by the PPMC.  *Any member of the Incubator PMC can ACK 
> the receipt of the vote.  This starts a 72-hour window for lazy 
> consensus.  After 72 hours and no requests by any Incubator PMC member

> for a full vote by the Incubator PMC, the committer request is 
> approved by the Incubator PMC and the PPMC can start the committer 
> invitation process.*
> ---
>
> This intentionally follows the procedure for adding a PMC member wrt 
> full ASF board.  I like the concept of expanding this for committers 
> as well for Incubation, so there.  I don't like needless 'dual 
> voting', but I do want the IPMC to have the chance to execute 
> oversight.
>
> WDYT?    -- justin
>
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Guillaume Nodet
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