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svn commit: r931515 -
/commons/proper/commons-site/trunk/src/site/xdoc/mailing-lists.xml
Author: sebb
Date: Wed Apr 7 12:17:25 2010
New Revision: 931515
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=931515&view=rev
Log:
Initial version of generic mailing list page.
Not yet included in navigation links.
Added:
commons/proper/commons-site/trunk/src/site/xdoc/mailing-lists.xml (with props)
Added: commons/proper/commons-site/trunk/src/site/xdoc/mailing-lists.xml
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/commons-site/trunk/src/site/xdoc/mailing-lists.xml?rev=931515&view=auto
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+<?xml version="1.0" ?>
+<!-- $Id: $ -->
+<!--
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+
+<document>
+ <properties>
+ <title>Commons Mailing Lists</title>
+ <author email="dev@commons.apache.org">The Apache Commons Team</author>
+ </properties>
+ <body>
+ <section name="Commons Mailing Lists - Overview">
+ <p>
+ Apache Commons uses shared mailing lists for all of its components.
+ There is only one developer list, and one user list, so it is important to identify the component name
+ in the Subject line.
+ This ensures that readers can quickly determine if the message is of interest.
+ The convention adopted by Commons is to start the Subject: line with [component], for example:
+ <ul>
+ <li>[EMAIL] Problem with mimemessage</li>
+ <li>[IO] Progress Monitor</li>
+ <li>[VFS] Public key authentication support for sftp</li>
+ </ul>
+ If the mail applies to two components, use both prefixes, e.g. <code>[IO][NET]</code>.
+ </p>
+ <p>
+ Other prefixes which may be used are:
+ <ul>
+ <li>[ALL] - general discussion (developer list)</li>
+ <li>[DOC] - Documentation discussion</li>
+ <li>[jira] - this is automatically added by JIRA messages (issues list)</li>
+ <li>[VOTE], [RESULT], [CANCELLED] - voting threads (developer list)</li>
+ <li>[ANNOUNCE], [ANN] - announcements of releases etc.</li>
+ </ul>
+ </p>
+ </section>
+
+ <section name="Commons Mailing Lists">
+ <p>
+ This section lists the Commons mailing Lists.
+ Please remember that these are shared, so use the appropriate prefix as described above.
+ </p>
+<table class="bodyTable">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr class="a">
+ <th>Name</th>
+ <th>Subscribe</th>
+ <th>Unsubscribe</th>
+ <th>Post</th>
+ <th>Apache Archive</th>
+ <th>Other Archives</th>
+ </tr>
+ <tr class="b">
+ <td>
+ <b>Commons User List</b>
+ <br></br><br></br>
+ General usage questions on Commons components.
+ Medium traffic.
+ </td>
+ <td>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="mailto:user-subscribe@commons.apache.org">Subscribe</a>
+ </td>
+ <td>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="mailto:user-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a>
+ </td>
+ <td>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="mailto:user@commons.apache.org">Post</a>
+ </td>
+ <td>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/commons-user/">mail-archives.apache.org</a>
+ </td>
+ <td>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="http://markmail.org/list/org.apache.commons.users/">markmail.org</a>
+ <br></br>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="http://old.nabble.com/Commons---User-f319.html">old.nabble.com</a>
+ <br></br>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="http://www.mail-archive.com/user@commons.apache.org/">www.mail-archive.com</a>
+ <br></br>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.jakarta.commons.user">news.gmane.org</a>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr class="b">
+ <td>
+ <b>Commons Developer List</b>
+ <br></br><br></br>
+ This mailing list is used by Commons developers to discuss code, vote on releases etc.
+ High traffic.
+ </td>
+ <td>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="mailto:dev-subscribe@commons.apache.org">Subscribe</a>
+ </td>
+ <td>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="mailto:dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a>
+ </td>
+ <td>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="mailto:dev@commons.apache.org">Post</a>
+ </td>
+ <td>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/commons-dev/">mail-archives.apache.org</a>
+ </td>
+ <td>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="http://markmail.org/list/org.apache.commons.dev/">markmail.org</a>
+ <br></br>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="http://old.nabble.com/Commons---Dev-f317.html">old.nabble.com</a>
+ <br></br>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@commons.apache.org/">www.mail-archive.com</a>
+ <br></br>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.jakarta.commons.devel">news.gmane.org</a>
+ </td>
+
+ </tr>
+ <!-- TODO - list commons-private? -->
+ <tr class="b">
+ <td>
+ <b>Commons Issues List</b>
+ <br></br><br></br>
+ This list is only for e-mails generated by JIRA, the issue tracking system used by Apache Commons.
+ High traffic.
+ </td>
+ <td>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="mailto:issues-subscribe@commons.apache.org">Subscribe</a>
+ </td>
+ <td>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="mailto:issues-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a>
+ </td>
+ <td>Not applicable</td>
+ <td>
+ <a class="externalLink"
+ href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/commons-issues/">mail-archives.apache.org</a>
+ </td>
+ <td>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="http://markmail.org/list/org.apache.commons.issues/">markmail.org</a>
+ <br></br>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="http://old.nabble.com/Commons---Issues-f25499.html">old.nabble.com</a>
+ <br></br>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="http://www.mail-archive.com/issues@commons.apache.org/">www.mail-archive.com</a>
+ </td>
+
+ </tr>
+ <tr class="a">
+ <td>
+ <b>Commons Commits List</b>
+ <br></br><br></br>
+ This list is only for e-mails automatically generated by SVN,
+ the source code control sytem used by Apache Commons.
+ High traffic.
+ </td>
+ <td>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="mailto:commits-subscribe@commons.apache.org">Subscribe</a>
+ </td>
+ <td>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="mailto:commits-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a>
+ </td>
+ <td>Not applicable</td>
+ <td>
+ <a class="externalLink"
+ href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/commons-commits/">mail-archives.apache.org</a>
+ </td>
+ <td>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="http://markmail.org/list/org.apache.commons.commits/">markmail.org</a>
+ <br></br>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="http://www.mail-archive.com/commits@commons.apache.org/">www.mail-archive.com</a>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+</table>
+ </section>
+ <section name="Apache Mailing Lists">
+ <p>
+ Other mailing lists which you may find useful are:
+ </p>
+<table class="bodyTable">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr class="a">
+ <th>Name</th>
+ <th>Subscribe</th>
+ <th>Unsubscribe</th>
+ <th>Apache Archive</th>
+ <th>Other Archives</th>
+ </tr>
+ <tr class="a">
+ <td>
+ <b>Apache Announce List</b>
+ <br></br><br></br>
+ General announcements of Apache project releases. Low traffic.
+ </td>
+ <td>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="mailto:announce-subscribe@apache.org">Subscribe</a>
+ </td>
+ <td>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="mailto:announce-unsubscribe@apache.org">Unsubscribe</a>
+ </td>
+ <td>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/announce/">mail-archives.apache.org</a>
+ </td>
+ <td>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="http://markmail.org/list/org.apache.announce/">markmail.org</a>
+ <br></br>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="http://old.nabble.com/Apache-News-and-Announce-f109.html">old.nabble.com</a>
+ <br></br>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="http://www.mail-archive.com/announce@apache.org/">www.mail-archive.com</a>
+ <br></br>
+ <a class="externalLink" href="http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.announce">news.gmane.org</a>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+</table>
+ </section>
+</body>
+</document>
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Re: svn commit: r931515 - /commons/proper/commons-site/trunk/src/site/xdoc/mailing-lists.xml
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 07/04/2010, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:42 PM, sebb AT ASF <se...@apache.org> wrote:
> > On 07/04/2010, sebb@apache.org <se...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> Author: sebb
> >> Date: Wed Apr 7 12:17:25 2010
> >> New Revision: 931515
> >>
> >> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=931515&view=rev
> >> Log:
> >> Initial version of generic mailing list page.
> >> Not yet included in navigation links.
> >>
> >
> > Generated and uploaded to:
> >
> > http://people.apache.org/~sebb/commons/mailing-lists.html
>
>
> It should IMO be renamed to mail-lists.xml - so that it replaces the
> maven generated one - rather than adding a second mailing list page.
OK; I just picked the name because it was descriptive.
But I see that you have updated commons-build to autogenerate the page
anyway; not sure that the page is needed anymore?
>
> Niall
>
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Re: svn commit: r931515 - /commons/proper/commons-site/trunk/src/site/xdoc/mailing-lists.xml
Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:42 PM, sebb AT ASF <se...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 07/04/2010, sebb@apache.org <se...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Author: sebb
>> Date: Wed Apr 7 12:17:25 2010
>> New Revision: 931515
>>
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=931515&view=rev
>> Log:
>> Initial version of generic mailing list page.
>> Not yet included in navigation links.
>>
>
> Generated and uploaded to:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~sebb/commons/mailing-lists.html
It should IMO be renamed to mail-lists.xml - so that it replaces the
maven generated one - rather than adding a second mailing list page.
Niall
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Re: svn commit: r931515 - /commons/proper/commons-site/trunk/src/site/xdoc/mailing-lists.xml
Posted by Jörg Schaible <jo...@gmx.de>.
sebb wrote at Mittwoch, 7. April 2010 15:33:
> On 07/04/2010, Jörg Schaible <jo...@gmx.de> wrote:
>> Hi Sebb,
>>
>> sebb AT ASF wrote at Mittwoch, 7. April 2010 14:42:
>>
>>
>> > On 07/04/2010, sebb@apache.org <se...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >> Author: sebb
>> >> Date: Wed Apr 7 12:17:25 2010
>> >> New Revision: 931515
>> >>
>> >> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=931515&view=rev
>> >> Log:
>> >> Initial version of generic mailing list page.
>> >> Not yet included in navigation links.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Generated and uploaded to:
>> >
>> > http://people.apache.org/~sebb/commons/mailing-lists.html
>>
>>
>> Can you add that the "commits" and "jira" lists are read-only for humans
>> and
>> fed by backend systems only?
>
> I thought I had made this clear - what needs to be changed?
* "[jira] - this is automatically added by JIRA messages (issues list)" to
"[jira] - this is automatically added by JIRA messages (issues list - read
only)"
* "This list is only for e-mails generated by JIRA, the issue tracking
system used by Apache Commons. High traffic." to "This list is read-only and
used for e-mails generated by JIRA, the issue tracking system used by Apache
Commons. High traffic."
* similar wording for Commits List as above
It's simply to make it very explicit. Occasionally we see people post to one
of those lists. Personally I am not even able to give a corrective answer,
since I am using normally Gmane as interface to the lists.
>> Additionally it would be nice to emphasis that
>> the user's list should be used for questions in first place.
>
> What do you suggest?
* "There is only one developer list, and one user list" to "There is only
one user list, and one developer list"
Add a phrase after the examples like:
"The user's list is normally the appropriate list for all kind of questions,
even if you try to contact the developers of a component. They are
subscribed also."
- Jörg
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Re: svn commit: r931515 - /commons/proper/commons-site/trunk/src/site/xdoc/mailing-lists.xml
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 07/04/2010, Jörg Schaible <jo...@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi Sebb,
>
> sebb AT ASF wrote at Mittwoch, 7. April 2010 14:42:
>
>
> > On 07/04/2010, sebb@apache.org <se...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> Author: sebb
> >> Date: Wed Apr 7 12:17:25 2010
> >> New Revision: 931515
> >>
> >> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=931515&view=rev
> >> Log:
> >> Initial version of generic mailing list page.
> >> Not yet included in navigation links.
> >>
> >
> > Generated and uploaded to:
> >
> > http://people.apache.org/~sebb/commons/mailing-lists.html
>
>
> Can you add that the "commits" and "jira" lists are read-only for humans and
> fed by backend systems only?
I thought I had made this clear - what needs to be changed?
> Additionally it would be nice to emphasis that
> the user's list should be used for questions in first place.
What do you suggest?
> Regards,
> Jörg
>
>
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Re: svn commit: r931515 - /commons/proper/commons-site/trunk/src/site/xdoc/mailing-lists.xml
Posted by Jörg Schaible <jo...@gmx.de>.
Hi Sebb,
sebb AT ASF wrote at Mittwoch, 7. April 2010 14:42:
> On 07/04/2010, sebb@apache.org <se...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Author: sebb
>> Date: Wed Apr 7 12:17:25 2010
>> New Revision: 931515
>>
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=931515&view=rev
>> Log:
>> Initial version of generic mailing list page.
>> Not yet included in navigation links.
>>
>
> Generated and uploaded to:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~sebb/commons/mailing-lists.html
Can you add that the "commits" and "jira" lists are read-only for humans and
fed by backend systems only? Additionally it would be nice to emphasis that
the user's list should be used for questions in first place.
Regards,
Jörg
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Re: svn commit: r931515 - /commons/proper/commons-site/trunk/src/site/xdoc/mailing-lists.xml
Posted by sebb AT ASF <se...@apache.org>.
On 07/04/2010, sebb@apache.org <se...@apache.org> wrote:
> Author: sebb
> Date: Wed Apr 7 12:17:25 2010
> New Revision: 931515
>
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=931515&view=rev
> Log:
> Initial version of generic mailing list page.
> Not yet included in navigation links.
>
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