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backing up .ods files
Dear Apache
I run your Calc program as a data base and it has given me good service for what I need. Compared to the complexity of computing I am low on the list of competence but I get by. My question is regarding backing up to USB stick.
For many back ups it has always produced an .ods file which is the format being used, however it now produces .pdf files, despite not being specified. If it is necessary to recover the file does it make an .ods file,which is better from my point of view or .pdf.
Is this behaviour a fault or, more possibly am I doing some thing wrong .
Your assistance would be appreciated.
Kind regards
David Bath
Re: backing up .ods files
Posted by Johnny Rosenberg <gu...@gmail.com>.
Oh, one last thing (I hope): COULD it be that the confirmation mail
that you got when unsubscribing actually ended up in your spam box?
Take a look there, and if you find it, follow its instructions.
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Johnny Rosenberg
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2015-07-29 16:40 GMT+02:00 Johnny Rosenberg <gu...@gmail.com>:
> 2015-07-29 16:31 GMT+02:00 Johnny Rosenberg <gu...@gmail.com>:
>> 2015-07-29 15:45 GMT+02:00 William and Michele Suepke
>> <wo...@thesuepkes.com>:
>>> Hello OpenOffice,
>>> I have been trying to unsubscripte from these email with no luck. Please
>>> unsubscribe me or the next time I get an email I will delete as spam. I
>>> don't want to do it that way but if is stops the emails, good.
>>> Bill
>>
>> I'm not sure if anyone can do that, maybe. Exactly what did you do
>> when you tried to unsubscribe? Did you follow the instructions at the
>> end of every email from this list?
>> ”To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org”
>> If you did, are you sure you sent it from exactly the same address as
>> the one that is subscribed? Otherwise it will not work, since it then
>> tried to unsubscribe someone that is not subscribed, which will fail
>> every time, of course.
>
> I also think that when you unsubscribe, you will get an email letting
> you confirm that you want to subscribe. If so, follow the instructions
> in it.
>
> If nothing works, it seems like you can write a message to
> ”users-owner@openoffice.apache.org” and writing about your problem
> there.
>
> That was at least the information I got when emailing
> ”users-help@openoffice.apache.org”.
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnny Rosenberg
> ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Johnny Rosenberg
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Re: backing up .ods files
Posted by Johnny Rosenberg <gu...@gmail.com>.
2015-07-29 16:31 GMT+02:00 Johnny Rosenberg <gu...@gmail.com>:
> 2015-07-29 15:45 GMT+02:00 William and Michele Suepke
> <wo...@thesuepkes.com>:
>> Hello OpenOffice,
>> I have been trying to unsubscripte from these email with no luck. Please
>> unsubscribe me or the next time I get an email I will delete as spam. I
>> don't want to do it that way but if is stops the emails, good.
>> Bill
>
> I'm not sure if anyone can do that, maybe. Exactly what did you do
> when you tried to unsubscribe? Did you follow the instructions at the
> end of every email from this list?
> ”To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org”
> If you did, are you sure you sent it from exactly the same address as
> the one that is subscribed? Otherwise it will not work, since it then
> tried to unsubscribe someone that is not subscribed, which will fail
> every time, of course.
I also think that when you unsubscribe, you will get an email letting
you confirm that you want to subscribe. If so, follow the instructions
in it.
If nothing works, it seems like you can write a message to
”users-owner@openoffice.apache.org” and writing about your problem
there.
That was at least the information I got when emailing
”users-help@openoffice.apache.org”.
Kind regards
Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnny Rosenberg
> ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
>
>
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Re: backing up .ods files
Posted by Johnny Rosenberg <gu...@gmail.com>.
2015-07-29 15:45 GMT+02:00 William and Michele Suepke
<wo...@thesuepkes.com>:
> Hello OpenOffice,
> I have been trying to unsubscripte from these email with no luck. Please
> unsubscribe me or the next time I get an email I will delete as spam. I
> don't want to do it that way but if is stops the emails, good.
> Bill
I'm not sure if anyone can do that, maybe. Exactly what did you do
when you tried to unsubscribe? Did you follow the instructions at the
end of every email from this list?
”To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org”
If you did, are you sure you sent it from exactly the same address as
the one that is subscribed? Otherwise it will not work, since it then
tried to unsubscribe someone that is not subscribed, which will fail
every time, of course.
Kind regards
Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
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Re: Unsubscribe Me Posts & Thread Hijacking [Was backing up .ods files]
Posted by William and Michele Suepke <wo...@thesuepkes.com>.
Dave,
Thanks for your help. I will check for your email.
Bill
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On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Dave Barton <db...@tasit.net> wrote:
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: William And Michele Suepke
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 14:24:47 -0700
>
> > to Dave or whoever,
> >
> > At the bottom of every post is an subscribe link. I have use that link 3
> > times with no luck. Still getting emails that serve no purpose to me.
> If
> > it takes me sending all emails from openoffice to spam I will. i am only
> > asking to be removed. Not a big deal, I thought. Guess not.
> > Bill
>
>
> Bill,
>
> Did you read the private email I sent to you earlier today from my
> bmcs@apache.org address? If not, please read it in detail and follow the
> instructions I gave you.
>
> It was clearly stated there that the email address
> worryless@thesuepkes.com does _NOT_ appear on today's list of 568 list
> subscribers. Either:
>
> 1. You are subscribed and receiving the list posts via a different email
> address.
> This you can easily resolve by following the detailed instructions in my
> private email.
>
> 2. You have, or someone impersonating you has, set up some form of
> redirection to worryless@thesuepkes.com
> There list moderators can do nothing to resolve this issue for you. If
> you have not set up any redirection, get some knowledgeable person check
> the email headers and it _might_ be possible to trace the origin.
>
> It is unclear what you believe will be achieved by "sending all emails
> from openoffice to spam", other than filling up some spam location,
>
> Dave
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>
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Re: Unsubscribe Me Posts & Thread Hijacking [Was backing up .ods
files]
Posted by Dave Barton <db...@tasit.net>.
-------- Original Message --------
From: William And Michele Suepke
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 14:24:47 -0700
> to Dave or whoever,
>
> At the bottom of every post is an subscribe link. I have use that link 3
> times with no luck. Still getting emails that serve no purpose to me. If
> it takes me sending all emails from openoffice to spam I will. i am only
> asking to be removed. Not a big deal, I thought. Guess not.
> Bill
Bill,
Did you read the private email I sent to you earlier today from my
bmcs@apache.org address? If not, please read it in detail and follow the
instructions I gave you.
It was clearly stated there that the email address
worryless@thesuepkes.com does _NOT_ appear on today's list of 568 list
subscribers. Either:
1. You are subscribed and receiving the list posts via a different email
address.
This you can easily resolve by following the detailed instructions in my
private email.
2. You have, or someone impersonating you has, set up some form of
redirection to worryless@thesuepkes.com
There list moderators can do nothing to resolve this issue for you. If
you have not set up any redirection, get some knowledgeable person check
the email headers and it _might_ be possible to trace the origin.
It is unclear what you believe will be achieved by "sending all emails
from openoffice to spam", other than filling up some spam location,
Dave
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Re: Unsubscribe Me Posts & Thread Hijacking [Was backing up .ods
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Posted by Larry Gusaas <la...@gmail.com>.
On 2015-07-29, 3:24 PM William and Michele Suepke wrote concerning "Re: Unsubscribe Me Posts &
Thread Hijacking [Was backing up .ods files]":
> to Dave or whoever,
>
> At the bottom of every post is an subscribe link. I have use that link 3
> times with no luck. Still getting emails that serve no purpose to me. If
> it takes me sending all emails from openoffice to spam I will. i am only
> asking to be removed. Not a big deal, I thought. Guess not.
> Bill
When you unsubscribe, you will get an email letting you confirm that you want to subscribe. Follow the instructions in it.
You won't be unsubscribed until you do so. This is the same as the process you went through to subscribe to this mailing list, and was listed in the email you received after you subscribed.
If you haven't seen the confirmation email check your spam folder.
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Re: Unsubscribe Me Posts & Thread Hijacking [Was backing up .ods files]
Posted by William and Michele Suepke <wo...@thesuepkes.com>.
to Dave or whoever,
At the bottom of every post is an subscribe link. I have use that link 3
times with no luck. Still getting emails that serve no purpose to me. If
it takes me sending all emails from openoffice to spam I will. i am only
asking to be removed. Not a big deal, I thought. Guess not.
Bill
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On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Dave Barton <db...@tasit.net> wrote:
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: Bob Holtzman
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 13:13:13 -0700
>
> > On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 06:45:21AM -0700, William and Michele Suepke
> wrote:
> >> Hello OpenOffice,
> >> I have been trying to unsubscripte from these email with no luck.
> Please
> >> unsubscribe me or the next time I get an email I will delete as spam. I
> >> don't want to do it that way but if is stops the emails, good.
> >
> > By all means do that. While you're at it, learn not to hijack threads.
>
> Folks, can I appeal to you all to please ignore these "unsubscribe me"
> messages and leave it to the moderators to handle them off-list,
>
> Undoubtedly done with the best of intentions, those replies only serve
> to make any thread hijacking worse. Yes, I am contributing to the
> problem by posting to this thread, but in this case the damage has
> already been done.
>
> Most of these "unsubscribe me, or else..." posts come from people who
> have little or no knowledge of what a mailing is, let alone
> understanding the concept of threads. How they manage to get themselves
> subscribed in the first place is a constant source of amazement.
>
> Thanks & Regards
> Dave
>
>
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Re: Unsubscribe Me Posts & Thread Hijacking [Was backing up .ods
files]
Posted by Dave Barton <db...@tasit.net>.
Jim,
Returning my reply to the list, in case anyone else misunderstood my
previous appeal.
What kind of indicator do you want from the moderators? Do we want more
useless posts (eg. Dealt with off-list by moderator) to clutter up the
list archives?
If all those <Q>"users with some skills and knowledge"</Q> ignore those
posts and assume the moderators will deal with them (which we do in
almost every case), they could spend more time answering "real" support
questions. This minimizes thread hijacking, <Q>"the whining
bullshit"</Q> and repeated unsubscribe advice.
Do you have an alternative suggestion?
Regards
Dave
Jim McLaughlin wrote:
> Dave -
>
> The problem with your suggestion re thread hijackers is that the
> hijackers are extremely annoying, and there is never any indicator that
> any moderator is doing anything, on line or off line, to end any given
> "unsunscribe" spasm from a dummy.
>
> Absent an indicator from a "moderator", users with some skills and
> knowledge will be incentivized to instruct the person seeking to
> unsubscribe to end the whining bullshit.
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Dave Barton <db@tasit.net
> <ma...@tasit.net>> wrote:
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: Bob Holtzman
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 13:13:13 -0700
>
> > On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 06:45:21AM -0700, William and Michele
> Suepke wrote:
> >> Hello OpenOffice,
> >> I have been trying to unsubscripte from these email with no
> luck. Please
> >> unsubscribe me or the next time I get an email I will delete as
> spam. I
> >> don't want to do it that way but if is stops the emails, good.
> >
> > By all means do that. While you're at it, learn not to hijack threads.
>
> Folks, can I appeal to you all to please ignore these "unsubscribe me"
> messages and leave it to the moderators to handle them off-list,
>
> Undoubtedly done with the best of intentions, those replies only serve
> to make any thread hijacking worse. Yes, I am contributing to the
> problem by posting to this thread, but in this case the damage has
> already been done.
>
> Most of these "unsubscribe me, or else..." posts come from people who
> have little or no knowledge of what a mailing is, let alone
> understanding the concept of threads. How they manage to get themselves
> subscribed in the first place is a constant source of amazement.
>
> Thanks & Regards
> Dave
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Unsubscribe Me Posts & Thread Hijacking [Was backing up .ods files]
Posted by Dave Barton <db...@tasit.net>.
-------- Original Message --------
From: Bob Holtzman
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 13:13:13 -0700
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 06:45:21AM -0700, William and Michele Suepke wrote:
>> Hello OpenOffice,
>> I have been trying to unsubscripte from these email with no luck. Please
>> unsubscribe me or the next time I get an email I will delete as spam. I
>> don't want to do it that way but if is stops the emails, good.
>
> By all means do that. While you're at it, learn not to hijack threads.
Folks, can I appeal to you all to please ignore these "unsubscribe me"
messages and leave it to the moderators to handle them off-list,
Undoubtedly done with the best of intentions, those replies only serve
to make any thread hijacking worse. Yes, I am contributing to the
problem by posting to this thread, but in this case the damage has
already been done.
Most of these "unsubscribe me, or else..." posts come from people who
have little or no knowledge of what a mailing is, let alone
understanding the concept of threads. How they manage to get themselves
subscribed in the first place is a constant source of amazement.
Thanks & Regards
Dave
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Re: backing up .ods files
Posted by Bob Holtzman <ho...@cox.net>.
On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 06:45:21AM -0700, William and Michele Suepke wrote:
> Hello OpenOffice,
> I have been trying to unsubscripte from these email with no luck. Please
> unsubscribe me or the next time I get an email I will delete as spam. I
> don't want to do it that way but if is stops the emails, good.
By all means do that. While you're at it, learn not to hijack threads.
.........snip.........
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Re: backing up .ods files
Posted by William and Michele Suepke <wo...@thesuepkes.com>.
Hello OpenOffice,
I have been trying to unsubscripte from these email with no luck. Please
unsubscribe me or the next time I get an email I will delete as spam. I
don't want to do it that way but if is stops the emails, good.
Bill
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On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 6:21 AM, Johnny Rosenberg <gu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> 2015-07-28 18:40 GMT+02:00 davidbath <da...@davidbath.plus.com>:
> > Dear Apache
>
> Well, this is a mailing list for users by users, so we are just like
> you, helping each other out, kind of.
>
> >
> > I run your Calc program as a data base and it has given me good service
> for what I need. Compared to the complexity of computing I am low on the
> list of competence but I get by. My question is regarding backing up to
> USB stick.
> >
> > For many back ups it has always produced an .ods file which is the
> format being used, however it now produces .pdf files, despite not being
> specified.
>
> Speciafied by what? Exactly how do you make your backups?
>
> > If it is necessary to recover the file does it make an .ods file,which
> is better from my point of view or .pdf.
>
> I doubt that Apache OpenOffice can recover the original ods, with
> macros and everything, from a pdf.
>
> >
> > Is this behaviour a fault or, more possibly am I doing some thing wrong
> .
>
> Hard to tell since you didn't mention anything about exactly what you do.
> Where do you click, what happens, what did you expect to happen, and so on?
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnny Rosenberg
> ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
>
> >
> >
> > Your assistance would be appreciated.
> >
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > David Bath
>
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Re: backing up .ods files
Posted by Johnny Rosenberg <gu...@gmail.com>.
2015-07-28 18:40 GMT+02:00 davidbath <da...@davidbath.plus.com>:
> Dear Apache
Well, this is a mailing list for users by users, so we are just like
you, helping each other out, kind of.
>
> I run your Calc program as a data base and it has given me good service for what I need. Compared to the complexity of computing I am low on the list of competence but I get by. My question is regarding backing up to USB stick.
>
> For many back ups it has always produced an .ods file which is the format being used, however it now produces .pdf files, despite not being specified.
Speciafied by what? Exactly how do you make your backups?
> If it is necessary to recover the file does it make an .ods file,which is better from my point of view or .pdf.
I doubt that Apache OpenOffice can recover the original ods, with
macros and everything, from a pdf.
>
> Is this behaviour a fault or, more possibly am I doing some thing wrong .
Hard to tell since you didn't mention anything about exactly what you do.
Where do you click, what happens, what did you expect to happen, and so on?
Kind regards
Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
>
>
> Your assistance would be appreciated.
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> David Bath
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