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Posted to dev@subversion.apache.org by Trampas Stern <ts...@dacaudio.com> on 2002/06/21 17:47:46 UTC
File System Question
Hi,
I am a newbie to the world of Linux and such, I did set myself up with
an e-smith server (www.e-smith.org <http://www.e-smith.org/> ). I was
looking for a "version control" system for this new and wonderful beast
and had previously seen subversion on slashdot. I was reading through
some of the documentation and it mentioned a "versioning file system,"
and I wanted to see if it was indeed what I thought it was.
What I have been looking for is a file system where I can share a
directory on a server and then each write and possibly read to that
directory is logged, and when there is a write the older version is
saved. This way I can track the progress of my projects. For example I
can print a report each week saying I added xxx number of lines of code
this week. Also I wanted this for documents as well as source code, thus
I can tell who accessed and changed the document.
Does or will subversion do this? If so is it currently semi functional,
enough for a test? Or does someone know of a better soultion?
Thanks
Trampas Stern
Re: File System Question
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@xbc.nu>.
Trampas Stern wrote:
>As I mentioned I am new to Linux so will see what docs I can find for
>the VFS in samba. This sounds like the perfect solution.
>
Those docs are in the samba sources. But note that the functionality
isn't enabled by default, you'll have to recompile Samba. Other than
that, it's pretty simple to use -- there's no kernel hacking involved.
Of course, if you'd be willing to wait a few months, I'll certainly get
around to writing a Samba plug-in. I've written such a beast
(repository->filesystem) converter before, so I know my way around the
Samba code quite well.
>Thanks
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Branko Cibej [mailto:brane@xbc.nu]
>Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 3:36 PM
>To: Trampas Stern
>Cc: cmpilato@collab.net; dev@subversion.tigris.org
>Subject: Re: File System Question
>
>Trampas Stern wrote:
>
>
>
>>My other thought was to hack samba to share the subversion system as a
>>network share.
>>
>>
>>
>That could be done, and fairly easily, with Samba's "vfs" module
>support. I've been thinking about this on and off for more than a year.
>
>The simplest implementation would just share a Subversion working copy,
>hiding the .svn directories and adding appropriate hooks to commit
>changes. You'd probably only want to track metadata operations (create,
>delete, rename) and open/close on files -- you'd commit on a close
>following an open-for-write, maybe checking if any changes were actually
>
>made.
>
>
>
>
--
Brane Čibej <br...@xbc.nu> http://www.xbc.nu/brane/
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RE: File System Question
Posted by Trampas Stern <ts...@dacaudio.com>.
As I mentioned I am new to Linux so will see what docs I can find for
the VFS in samba. This sounds like the perfect solution.
Thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: Branko Cibej [mailto:brane@xbc.nu]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 3:36 PM
To: Trampas Stern
Cc: cmpilato@collab.net; dev@subversion.tigris.org
Subject: Re: File System Question
Trampas Stern wrote:
>My other thought was to hack samba to share the subversion system as a
>network share.
>
That could be done, and fairly easily, with Samba's "vfs" module
support. I've been thinking about this on and off for more than a year.
The simplest implementation would just share a Subversion working copy,
hiding the .svn directories and adding appropriate hooks to commit
changes. You'd probably only want to track metadata operations (create,
delete, rename) and open/close on files -- you'd commit on a close
following an open-for-write, maybe checking if any changes were actually
made.
--
Brane Čibej <br...@xbc.nu> http://www.xbc.nu/brane/
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Re: File System Question
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@xbc.nu>.
Trampas Stern wrote:
>My other thought was to hack samba to share the subversion system as a
>network share.
>
That could be done, and fairly easily, with Samba's "vfs" module
support. I've been thinking about this on and off for more than a year.
The simplest implementation would just share a Subversion working copy,
hiding the .svn directories and adding appropriate hooks to commit
changes. You'd probably only want to track metadata operations (create,
delete, rename) and open/close on files -- you'd commit on a close
following an open-for-write, maybe checking if any changes were actually
made.
--
Brane Čibej <br...@xbc.nu> http://www.xbc.nu/brane/
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RE: File System Question
Posted by Trampas Stern <ts...@dacaudio.com>.
My other thought was to hack samba to share the subversion system as a
network share.
Trampas
-----Original Message-----
From: cmpilato@collab.net [mailto:cmpilato@collab.net]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 3:17 PM
To: Trampas Stern
Cc: dev@subversion.tigris.org
Subject: Re: File System Question
"Trampas Stern" <ts...@dacaudio.com> writes:
> What I have been looking for is a file system where I can share a
> directory on a server and then each write and possibly read to that
> directory is logged, and when there is a write the older version is
> saved. This way I can track the progress of my projects. For example I
> can print a report each week saying I added xxx number of lines of
code
> this week. Also I wanted this for documents as well as source code,
thus
> I can tell who accessed and changed the document.
>
> Does or will subversion do this? If so is it currently semi
functional,
> enough for a test? Or does someone know of a better soultion?
Subversion as it stands today is not exactly what you're looking for,
as it requires user intervention to actually "take a snapshot" of the
files you wish to have versioned.
However, I started researching (just for kicks) the idea of writing a
Linux kernel module that would allow someone to mount a Subversion
repository as a regular volume, with all mods to that volume
automagically "committed" and thereby versioned.
This is very similar to way that Web Folders on Windows--which
is an implementation of the DAV protocol--works, and since Subversion
is already equipped with some basic DAV support, we are probably not
too far away from being able to use a Subversion repository as a Web
Folder backend, and having the whole auto-versioning support.
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Re: File System Question
Posted by cm...@collab.net.
"Trampas Stern" <ts...@dacaudio.com> writes:
> What I have been looking for is a file system where I can share a
> directory on a server and then each write and possibly read to that
> directory is logged, and when there is a write the older version is
> saved. This way I can track the progress of my projects. For example I
> can print a report each week saying I added xxx number of lines of code
> this week. Also I wanted this for documents as well as source code, thus
> I can tell who accessed and changed the document.
>
> Does or will subversion do this? If so is it currently semi functional,
> enough for a test? Or does someone know of a better soultion?
Subversion as it stands today is not exactly what you're looking for,
as it requires user intervention to actually "take a snapshot" of the
files you wish to have versioned.
However, I started researching (just for kicks) the idea of writing a
Linux kernel module that would allow someone to mount a Subversion
repository as a regular volume, with all mods to that volume
automagically "committed" and thereby versioned.
This is very similar to way that Web Folders on Windows--which
is an implementation of the DAV protocol--works, and since Subversion
is already equipped with some basic DAV support, we are probably not
too far away from being able to use a Subversion repository as a Web
Folder backend, and having the whole auto-versioning support.
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