RE: Batik and JavaFX?

[Lucan1d Beetle <lu...@hotmail.com>]

Can anyone comment on this?  I searched for any previous discussions on this
topic and couldn't find any.  Surely such a consideration has to be made for
the long-term plans for Batik?

 

From: Lucan1d Beetle [mailto:lucan1d@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 9:27 PM
To: batik-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Subject: Batik and JavaFX?

 

Apologies if this has been asked before.

 

Now that Swing/Java2D has been "deprecated" (at least in the sense that no
further development or bug fixes will be applied) and that JavaFX has been
officially endorsed by Oracle as the way forward for Java-based UI
development, are there any plans to implement the rendering engine of Batik
in JavaFX?

 

For those that are not aware, JavaFX is currently at the version 2.x release
and JavaFX 8 will be released as part of Java 8 in early 2014.  It is
hardware-accelerated and actually performs very well.  It has several
capabilities not found in either Swing or Java2D and is well worth a look.

 

I am thinking that a "SVG control" could easily be added to JavaFX which
would permit the embedding of the millions of existing SVG files as nodes in
a JavaFX scene graph.  Awesome!

 

Cheers,

 

-jct

Re: Batik and JavaFX?

[Thomas DeWeese <th...@gmail.com>]

Doesn't matter, until you find someone planning or likely to rewrite GVT to
use JavaFX. I imagine Oracle will discover that this is true of many tools
that many developers depend on.


On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 4:37 AM, Lucan1d Beetle <lu...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Thomas.****
>
> ** **
>
> Do you see Batik being viable long term without such a rewrite of GVT?
> And although they are not dead, Java2D will never be further enhanced and
> the same is true of Swing.  Oracle has made it quite clear that JavaFX is
> the only GUI toolkit for Java that they will continue to work on.****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Thomas DeWeese [mailto:thomas.deweese@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 30, 2013 1:28 AM
> *To:* batik-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Batik and JavaFX?****
>
> ** **
>
> Batik is very deeply integrated with Java2D.  Moving to a new graphics
> library would require rewriting most/all of the GVT package which would be
> a very large effort. I'm not aware of anyone that is planning or is likely
> to do that.****
>
> Rewriting the Swing parts would be easy in comparison, although still
> non-trivial.****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 6:11 AM, Lucan1d Beetle <lu...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:****
>
> Can anyone comment on this?  I searched for any previous discussions on
> this topic and couldn’t find any.  Surely such a consideration has to be
> made for the long-term plans for Batik?****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* Lucan1d Beetle [mailto:lucan1d@hotmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2013 9:27 PM
> *To:* batik-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
> *Subject:* Batik and JavaFX?****
>
>  ****
>
> Apologies if this has been asked before…****
>
>  ****
>
> Now that Swing/Java2D has been “deprecated” (at least in the sense that no
> further development or bug fixes will be applied) and that JavaFX has been
> officially endorsed by Oracle as the way forward for Java-based UI
> development, are there any plans to implement the rendering engine of Batik
> in JavaFX?****
>
>  ****
>
> For those that are not aware, JavaFX is currently at the version 2.x
> release and JavaFX 8 will be released as part of Java 8 in early 2014.  It
> is hardware-accelerated and actually performs very well.  It has several
> capabilities not found in either Swing or Java2D and is well worth a look.
> ****
>
>  ****
>
> I am thinking that a “SVG control” could easily be added to JavaFX which
> would permit the embedding of the millions of existing SVG files as nodes
> in a JavaFX scene graph.  Awesome!****
>
>  ****
>
> Cheers,****
>
>  ****
>
> -jct****
>
> ** **
>

RE: Batik and JavaFX?

[Lucan1d Beetle <lu...@hotmail.com>]

Thanks Thomas.

 

Do you see Batik being viable long term without such a rewrite of GVT?  And although they are not dead, Java2D will never be further enhanced and the same is true of Swing.  Oracle has made it quite clear that JavaFX is the only GUI toolkit for Java that they will continue to work on.

 

From: Thomas DeWeese [mailto:thomas.deweese@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 1:28 AM
To: batik-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Subject: Re: Batik and JavaFX?

 

Batik is very deeply integrated with Java2D.  Moving to a new graphics library would require rewriting most/all of the GVT package which would be a very large effort. I'm not aware of anyone that is planning or is likely to do that.

Rewriting the Swing parts would be easy in comparison, although still non-trivial.

 

 

On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 6:11 AM, Lucan1d Beetle <lucan1d@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

Can anyone comment on this?  I searched for any previous discussions on this topic and couldn’t find any.  Surely such a consideration has to be made for the long-term plans for Batik?

 

From: Lucan1d Beetle [mailto:lucan1d@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> ] 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 9:27 PM
To: batik-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org <ma...@xmlgraphics.apache.org> 
Subject: Batik and JavaFX?

 

Apologies if this has been asked before…

 

Now that Swing/Java2D has been “deprecated” (at least in the sense that no further development or bug fixes will be applied) and that JavaFX has been officially endorsed by Oracle as the way forward for Java-based UI development, are there any plans to implement the rendering engine of Batik in JavaFX?

 

For those that are not aware, JavaFX is currently at the version 2.x release and JavaFX 8 will be released as part of Java 8 in early 2014.  It is hardware-accelerated and actually performs very well.  It has several capabilities not found in either Swing or Java2D and is well worth a look.

 

I am thinking that a “SVG control” could easily be added to JavaFX which would permit the embedding of the millions of existing SVG files as nodes in a JavaFX scene graph.  Awesome!

 

Cheers,

 

-jct

 

Re: Batik and JavaFX?

[Thomas DeWeese <th...@gmail.com>]

Batik is very deeply integrated with Java2D.  Moving to a new graphics
library would require rewriting most/all of the GVT package which would be
a very large effort. I'm not aware of anyone that is planning or is likely
to do that.
Rewriting the Swing parts would be easy in comparison, although still
non-trivial.



On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 6:11 AM, Lucan1d Beetle <lu...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Can anyone comment on this?  I searched for any previous discussions on
> this topic and couldn’t find any.  Surely such a consideration has to be
> made for the long-term plans for Batik?****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Lucan1d Beetle [mailto:lucan1d@hotmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2013 9:27 PM
> *To:* batik-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
> *Subject:* Batik and JavaFX?****
>
> ** **
>
> Apologies if this has been asked before…****
>
> ** **
>
> Now that Swing/Java2D has been “deprecated” (at least in the sense that no
> further development or bug fixes will be applied) and that JavaFX has been
> officially endorsed by Oracle as the way forward for Java-based UI
> development, are there any plans to implement the rendering engine of Batik
> in JavaFX?****
>
> ** **
>
> For those that are not aware, JavaFX is currently at the version 2.x
> release and JavaFX 8 will be released as part of Java 8 in early 2014.  It
> is hardware-accelerated and actually performs very well.  It has several
> capabilities not found in either Swing or Java2D and is well worth a look.
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> I am thinking that a “SVG control” could easily be added to JavaFX which
> would permit the embedding of the millions of existing SVG files as nodes
> in a JavaFX scene graph.  Awesome!****
>
> ** **
>
> Cheers,****
>
> ** **
>
> -jct****
>