Fwd: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

[Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>]

Hello, VXQuery community,

There's been a long thread on general@incubator which has led up to the
message below in which I volunteer to be a VXQuery Mentor and to review your
release candidate tomorrow.

    http://markmail.org/message/gtrdyivoyr55vzom

Cheers,

Marvin Humphrey


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>
Date: Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards
To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>


On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Ross Gardler
<rg...@opendirective.com> wrote:
> On 7 November 2013 22:22, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:

>> 1.  Start with a Board resolution establishing a pTLP PMC seeded with IPMC
>>     members.
>> 2.  Vote podling contributors onto the PMC as they demonstrate merit.
>> 3.  When there are enough PMC members, consider graduation.
>
> +1 this is essentially what I proposed for the pTLP experiment with
> Stratos. I wrote the proposal up in outline on the Stratos dev list a few
> days after the podling got started. Unfortunately the mentors who signed up
> to oversee that experiment never found the time to do so.
>
> I still think this is an approach worth exploring more fully and will be
> happy to sig out that email for you if it would help.

Here a link to your writeup:

    http://s.apache.org/6Ph

Since we now know that the Board prefers we run any pTLP experiments in the
context of the Incubator, that settles some of the unresolved issues you
identified -- at least for the time being.

> In summary I am +1 on you picking any of these and implementing them. All
> are reversible steps. Good luck.

OK, I've thought things over.  Here's what I'd like to do:

First, I'd like to volunteer as a Mentor for VXQuery.  It seems that the
community is receptive to the the idea of of trying out a pTLP model, though
my offer is not conditional upon that.  I'll review their release candidate
tomorrow.

VXQuery is not a new podling, but I think it's a good candidate for a pilot
pTLP (under the aegis of the Incubator).  There are some community development
conversations which I think it would be fruitful to have, and I believe that
the process of assembling a pTLP PMC would provide an excellent framework for
those conversations.

Should that experiment run as expected, we will break the ice with pTLPs and
get some data.  And since VXQuery is has completed many incubation tasks
already, things may happen quickly.

Second, I intend to start nominating more outstanding podling contributors
for IPMC membership, for reasons best articulated by David Nalley.  I hope
that other IPMC members will do the same.

Lastly, with regards to "Podling Chairs", I'd like us to continue that
conversation, either now or later.  It occurs to me that pTLPs should probably
have Chairs -- so perhaps we will find that the proposals complement
each other.

Marvin Humphrey

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

[Till Westmann <ti...@westmann.org>]

Hello Marvin,

Thanks and welcome!

Looking forward to tomorrow,
Till

> On Nov 8, 2013, at 23:15, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello, VXQuery community,
> 
> There's been a long thread on general@incubator which has led up to the
> message below in which I volunteer to be a VXQuery Mentor and to review your
> release candidate tomorrow.
> 
>    http://markmail.org/message/gtrdyivoyr55vzom
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Marvin Humphrey
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>
> Date: Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards
> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Ross Gardler
> <rg...@opendirective.com> wrote:
>> On 7 November 2013 22:22, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
> 
>>> 1.  Start with a Board resolution establishing a pTLP PMC seeded with IPMC
>>>    members.
>>> 2.  Vote podling contributors onto the PMC as they demonstrate merit.
>>> 3.  When there are enough PMC members, consider graduation.
>> 
>> +1 this is essentially what I proposed for the pTLP experiment with
>> Stratos. I wrote the proposal up in outline on the Stratos dev list a few
>> days after the podling got started. Unfortunately the mentors who signed up
>> to oversee that experiment never found the time to do so.
>> 
>> I still think this is an approach worth exploring more fully and will be
>> happy to sig out that email for you if it would help.
> 
> Here a link to your writeup:
> 
>    http://s.apache.org/6Ph
> 
> Since we now know that the Board prefers we run any pTLP experiments in the
> context of the Incubator, that settles some of the unresolved issues you
> identified -- at least for the time being.
> 
>> In summary I am +1 on you picking any of these and implementing them. All
>> are reversible steps. Good luck.
> 
> OK, I've thought things over.  Here's what I'd like to do:
> 
> First, I'd like to volunteer as a Mentor for VXQuery.  It seems that the
> community is receptive to the the idea of of trying out a pTLP model, though
> my offer is not conditional upon that.  I'll review their release candidate
> tomorrow.
> 
> VXQuery is not a new podling, but I think it's a good candidate for a pilot
> pTLP (under the aegis of the Incubator).  There are some community development
> conversations which I think it would be fruitful to have, and I believe that
> the process of assembling a pTLP PMC would provide an excellent framework for
> those conversations.
> 
> Should that experiment run as expected, we will break the ice with pTLPs and
> get some data.  And since VXQuery is has completed many incubation tasks
> already, things may happen quickly.
> 
> Second, I intend to start nominating more outstanding podling contributors
> for IPMC membership, for reasons best articulated by David Nalley.  I hope
> that other IPMC members will do the same.
> 
> Lastly, with regards to "Podling Chairs", I'd like us to continue that
> conversation, either now or later.  It occurs to me that pTLPs should probably
> have Chairs -- so perhaps we will find that the proposals complement
> each other.
> 
> Marvin Humphrey