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[PROPOSAL] Splitt lenya/lenya/usecase.xmap

Hello Developers,

I'm currently extending Michi's Epoz integration. Saving and triggering
workflow works. Now I want to develop a transformation for the
lenya:meta part, which is not (re)transmitted by Epoz on save.

Therefor I aggregate the PUT stream with the old version of the doc.

On that way, I saw the real big usecase.xmap file, where all the editor
stuff is in. I propose to splitt this file and mount smaller usecase
specific sitemaps.

What do you think? Might be a good idea for 1.4.




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Re: [PROPOSAL] Splitt lenya/lenya/usecase.xmap

Posted by Rolf Kulemann <ma...@rolf-kulemann.com>.
On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 11:12, Michael Wechner wrote:
> Rolf Kulemann wrote:
> > 
> >>The disadvantage is that we have quite a lot of sitemaps ...
> > 
> > 
> > I think the benefit is much greater than the disadvantage.
> 
> +1 for splitting and having per usecase a sitemap.
> 
> we can create a directotry src/webapp/lenya/usecases/...
> 

+1

> 
> > 
> > Schedule for 1.4?
> 
> I don't see a reason for not starting right now, or would it cause a 
> problem?

nop.



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Re: [PROPOSAL] Splitt lenya/lenya/usecase.xmap

Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Rolf Kulemann wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 10:53, Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> 
>>Rolf Kulemann wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>>The question is - should there be one sitemap per usecase?
>>
>>At the moment, if you override the usecase sitemap in a
>>publication, you have one sitemap per usecase. So this
>>would be quite consistent (one sitemap overrides another
>>sitemap with the same name).
>>
>>In this case, we could even use the fallback module in
>>the <map:mount> statement.
> 
> 
> +1. 
> 
> 
>>The disadvantage is that we have quite a lot of sitemaps ...
> 
> 
> I think the benefit is much greater than the disadvantage.

+1 for splitting and having per usecase a sitemap.

we can create a directotry src/webapp/lenya/usecases/...

then it shouldn't be that bad.

> 
> Schedule for 1.4?

I don't see a reason for not starting right now, or would it cause a 
problem?

Michi



> 
> 
> 


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Milestone 1.4 and announcement text for 1.2 (Re: [PROPOSAL] Splitt lenya/lenya/usecase.xmap)

Posted by Andreas Kuckartz <A....@ping.de>.
Rolf Kulemann wrote:
> Schedule for 1.4?

I suggest that you add it as an "enhancement" request to Bugzilla and set
the milestone to 1.4.

If the open issues/tasks for 1.4 are all in Bugzilla it is easy to compile a
list of the new features which are being prepared. This list can be used for
the official announcement of 1.2.

Cheers,
Andreas


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Re: [PROPOSAL] Splitt lenya/lenya/usecase.xmap

Posted by Rolf Kulemann <ma...@rolf-kulemann.com>.
On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 10:53, Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Rolf Kulemann wrote:
[...]
> The question is - should there be one sitemap per usecase?
> 
> At the moment, if you override the usecase sitemap in a
> publication, you have one sitemap per usecase. So this
> would be quite consistent (one sitemap overrides another
> sitemap with the same name).
> 
> In this case, we could even use the fallback module in
> the <map:mount> statement.

+1. 

> 
> The disadvantage is that we have quite a lot of sitemaps ...

I think the benefit is much greater than the disadvantage.

Schedule for 1.4?



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Re: [PROPOSAL] Splitt lenya/lenya/usecase.xmap

Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Rolf Kulemann wrote:

> Hello Developers,
> 
> I'm currently extending Michi's Epoz integration. Saving and triggering
> workflow works. Now I want to develop a transformation for the
> lenya:meta part, which is not (re)transmitted by Epoz on save.
> 
> Therefor I aggregate the PUT stream with the old version of the doc.
> 
> On that way, I saw the real big usecase.xmap file, where all the editor
> stuff is in. I propose to splitt this file and mount smaller usecase
> specific sitemaps.

Very +1.

The question is - should there be one sitemap per usecase?

At the moment, if you override the usecase sitemap in a
publication, you have one sitemap per usecase. So this
would be quite consistent (one sitemap overrides another
sitemap with the same name).

In this case, we could even use the fallback module in
the <map:mount> statement.

The disadvantage is that we have quite a lot of sitemaps ...

-- Andreas


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Re: [PROPOSAL] Splitt lenya/lenya/usecase.xmap

Posted by Andreas Kuckartz <A....@ping.de>.
> I propose to schedule this one for 1.2.1?

-1 (unbinding)

Please do not make such changes for minor releases. Those releases should be
reserved almost only for bugfixes.

Cheers,
Andreas


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Re: [PROPOSAL] Splitt lenya/lenya/usecase.xmap

Posted by Rolf Kulemann <ma...@rolf-kulemann.com>.
On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 15:20, Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
> 
> > Rolf Kulemann wrote:
> > 
> >> On that way, I saw the real big usecase.xmap file, where all the editor
> >> stuff is in. I propose to splitt this file and mount smaller usecase
> >> specific sitemaps.
> > 
> > 
> > yes, it is becoming unwieldy.
> > 
> > +1
> > 
> > i am ok with making "obviously correct" changes for 1.2, but will speak 
> > up against other changes that may destabilize 1.2
> 
> I'm against refactoring the sitemap for 1.2.
> I think it will be easier and faster when we don't have
> to be as careful as we have to be now.

I propose to schedule this one for 1.2.1?



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Re: [PROPOSAL] Splitt lenya/lenya/usecase.xmap

Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:

> Rolf Kulemann wrote:
> 
>> On that way, I saw the real big usecase.xmap file, where all the editor
>> stuff is in. I propose to splitt this file and mount smaller usecase
>> specific sitemaps.
> 
> 
> yes, it is becoming unwieldy.
> 
> +1
> 
> i am ok with making "obviously correct" changes for 1.2, but will speak 
> up against other changes that may destabilize 1.2

I'm against refactoring the sitemap for 1.2.
I think it will be easier and faster when we don't have
to be as careful as we have to be now.

-- Andreas


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Re: [PROPOSAL] Splitt lenya/lenya/usecase.xmap

Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>.
Rolf Kulemann wrote:

> On that way, I saw the real big usecase.xmap file, where all the editor
> stuff is in. I propose to splitt this file and mount smaller usecase
> specific sitemaps.

yes, it is becoming unwieldy.

+1

i am ok with making "obviously correct" changes for 1.2, but will speak 
up against other changes that may destabilize 1.2

-gregor


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