Re: Why GlassFish

[Peng Tuck Kwok <pe...@gmail.com>]

Johnny, you're having way too much fun :D .
Sam to answer your question, tomcat simply is the reference implementation
of servlet and jsp specification from Sun (and a damn fine one at that
too).

Glassfish like other comparable app servers out there implement the JEE
specification (well whichever they are targeting) and as such they do much
more (as required by the spec).

Probably some confusion arises when you find that they can both do servlets
and jsp (web applications). This is because the app servers should provide
that feature.

So if you're looking to do ejb's a full blown app server would serve you
well. If you get by fine with just servlets+jsp+other frameworks thrown in
then tomcat is pretty suitable for you as well.

HIH


On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 3:32 AM, Johnny Kewl <jo...@kewlstuff.co.za> wrote:

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> Ha ha... time to have some fun...
>
> They stole Tomcat... and messed it up ;)
>
> On a more serious not (if I can do it)... J2EE is a bit of a confusing
> definition... its got a wide scope.
> Within that... you have "servlet" containers... like Tomcat... aimed at the
> web but are actually capable of just about anything in a POJO designers
> hands.
> And then you get EJB.... what the hell does it do again... oh yes, it runs
> beans, and you have to join AA and find a good therapist ;)
>
> Tomcat can also do beans.... but they have rolled it up into what they call
> "biz logic", and tried to add many other tools, like for example they also
> plug RMI into it so you can call it from other Java applications, not just
> from a browser...
>
> They overlap alot... but they are different tools....
> In general... WEB == TOMCAT
>
> And its true that Tomcat is inside Glassfish somewhere... in fact if you
> drop a war into the fish... it will probably work... but not the other way
> around.
>
> Thats why some people in this group... with doubtful principles... say
> things like... something "fishy" going on, or I just like my "pussy" ;)
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Re: Why GlassFish

[Peng Tuck Kwok <pe...@gmail.com>]

Meh, need to check tomcat more often :P
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Leon Rosenberg <
rosenberg.leon@googlemail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Peng Tuck Kwok <pe...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Johnny, you're having way too much fun :D .
> > Sam to answer your question, tomcat simply is the reference
> implementation
> > of servlet and jsp specification from Sun (and a damn fine one at that
> > too).
>
> No its not. Glassfish is the reference implementation of the servlet
> spec  (since tomcat 5.0.25) :-)
>
> Leon
>
> Still, tomcat is the better implementation, simply because it doesn't
> have all the ejb stuff :-)
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Re: Why GlassFish

[Jack Woehr <ja...@well.com>]

Leon Rosenberg wrote:
> Still, tomcat is the better implementation, simply because it doesn't
> have all the ejb stuff :-)
>   
I rise to agree with Leon. The reason I'm using Tomcat right now
(and pestering the list with build questions, thanks for the help) is that
it's simpler. I'm not /interested/ in application servers. I just /need/ 
one.

NetBeans supporting Tomcat closes the loop for me.

Thanks to the committers and architects for a manageable piece of open 
source.

-- 
Jack J. Woehr            # "Self-delusion is
http://www.well.com/~jax #  half the battle!"
http://www.softwoehr.com #  - Zippy the Pinhead

Re: Why GlassFish

[Leon Rosenberg <ro...@googlemail.com>]

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Peng Tuck Kwok <pe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Johnny, you're having way too much fun :D .
> Sam to answer your question, tomcat simply is the reference implementation
> of servlet and jsp specification from Sun (and a damn fine one at that
> too).

No its not. Glassfish is the reference implementation of the servlet
spec  (since tomcat 5.0.25) :-)

Leon

Still, tomcat is the better implementation, simply because it doesn't
have all the ejb stuff :-)

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