Re: ant instead of maven

[Stephen McConnell <mc...@apache.org>]

J Aaron Farr wrote:

> True.  I've been using Maven since something like beta-7 I think.  Right
> now I still use beta-10 since I got inconsistent results with RC-1. 
> Each time I upgraded to a new beta, it required reworking things.

Things changing with a new beta don't bother me. I can prepare myself 
for that.  But what *really* bugs me is when things change because maven 
it changing under your feet.

Some things I've been experiencing (which have nothing to do with jelly) 
is maven downloading of *older* jar files over more recent build 
versions.  This came up because of a build failure related to a class 
not found error. The class in question has just been built and installed 
into the repository by maven - then on the build of a subsequent project 
maven downloaded an older version (as in days older).  Problem is that 
the bug is non-repeatable (but I now know of at least three cases where 
this was the identified cause of a build failure).  I have a hunch that 
the issue is related to the difference in precision in date formats 
returned from input streams where the resource is local or remote (http 
resources return a different date precision to file resources) - but I 
haven't gone digging.

Anyway - the problems have been sufficient to prompt me to thinking 
about putting in place a component that runs a sequence of actionable 
services - e.g. compile, test, jar, etc.  The key here is defining these 
actions as services - not implementations.  This would enable a lot 
cleaner build model because plugins would be basically full components.

But that idea hasn't gone beyond a few little test components (but its 
still circulating in my head).

Stephen.

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