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Posted to general@jakarta.apache.org by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> on 2003/07/11 19:23:33 UTC

Re: Possibly Include HTMLParser Jar in contrib code?

We're not allowed to have LGPL dependencies per the Apache board.  They have
a legal concern with the LGPL section 6 and the FSF is unwilling to clarify
the issue although I've personally written them in the past they apparently
are not filled with a spirit of free sharing with regards to information
about the meaning of their licenses.  While they are not obligated to
respond it would have certainly have been a courteous thing to do.  Thus far
I have attempted to write

Their lawyer  : Eben Moglen
Their RMS     : Richard Stallman
Their gnumail : gnu@gnu.org

None have yielded a response.  Thus I regard them as unfriendly at the
least.  

While I do not agree with the conservative interpretation of the LGPL by the
ASF, I totally agree that legal ambiguity is a bad thing and understand why
they wish to avoid this.

Anyone who can lend assistance in getting into contact with them with
regards to clarifying the LGPL license's terms as they apply to java (in
particular jars and imports) such that we can LGPL libraries, I'd be much
appreciative and would be in your debt.

Thanks,

-Andy

On 7/11/03 9:31 AM, "epugh" <ep...@upstate.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> For a couple months now, I have periodically had to post a patch adding more
> unicode mappings for the HSSFCellUtil contrib class:
> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-poi/src/contrib/src/org/apache/poi/hss
> f/usermodel/contrib/HSSFCellUtil.java?rev=1.6&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-
> markup.
> 
> If you look at the bottom, there is a static population of unicodeMappings.
> Now, since I am lazy, I didn't want to type them all in myself.  Well, I
> finally found a library called HTMLParser
> (http://htmlparser.sourceforge.net/) that has a Translate class that does
> the unicode translation I need:
> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/htmlparser/htmlparser/src/org
> /htmlparser/util/Translate.java?rev=1.28&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-marku
> p
> 
> Would it be better to post a patch file that includes this jar, even though
> it would mean another dependency, or should I just lift the code for this
> class?  I need to add another 10 unicode mappings, and really would like a
> better solution!
> 
> Sincerely,
> Eric Pugh
> 
> 
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Re: Possibly Include HTMLParser Jar in contrib code?

Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
Good point.

On 7/11/03 1:27 PM, "Lavandowska" <fl...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> 
> --- "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> wrote:
>> We're not allowed to have LGPL dependencies per the Apache board.
> 
>>> or should I just lift the code for this
>>> class?  I need to add another 10 unicode mappings,
>>> and really would like a
>>> better solution!
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Eric Pugh
> 
> And I doubt "lifting the code" would meet the LGPL.
> 
> Lance
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Possibly Include HTMLParser Jar in contrib code?

Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
Good point.

On 7/11/03 1:27 PM, "Lavandowska" <fl...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> 
> --- "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> wrote:
>> We're not allowed to have LGPL dependencies per the Apache board.
> 
>>> or should I just lift the code for this
>>> class?  I need to add another 10 unicode mappings,
>>> and really would like a
>>> better solution!
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Eric Pugh
> 
> And I doubt "lifting the code" would meet the LGPL.
> 
> Lance
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Possibly Include HTMLParser Jar in contrib code?

Posted by Lavandowska <fl...@yahoo.com>.
--- "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> wrote:
> We're not allowed to have LGPL dependencies per the Apache board. 

> > or should I just lift the code for this
> > class?  I need to add another 10 unicode mappings, 
> > and really would like a
> > better solution!
> > 
> > Sincerely,
> > Eric Pugh

And I doubt "lifting the code" would meet the LGPL.

Lance



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